* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WE NEED A, WE'RE GONNA CALL [00:00:01] THE, UH, HISTORIC [Historic District Commission on June 17, 2026.] DISTRICT COMMISSION MEETING TO ORDER. WE NEED A ROLL CALL FORUM AND THEN I'LL GO OVER THE INSTRUCTIONS. COMMISSIONER HALL. OKAY. COMMISSIONER WALKER? YEP. COMMISSIONER LOONEY? HERE. COMMISSIONER COX? HERE. COMMISSIONER. DEAN. HERE. COMMISSIONER GIVEN. HERE. CHAIRMAN KELSEY. HERE. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE DO NEED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. WE HAVE ONE ITEM ON THE AGENDA TODAY. SO WE HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION. A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? RAISE YOUR HAND. ALL OPPOSED, ANY ABSTAIN? MOVING ON. DO WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS' COMMENTS? JAMIE? THAT NO. WHAT? ANYONE HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY? RIGHT. UH, THAT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA, RIGHT? SO I DON'T THINK WE DO. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. OKAY. A LITTLE, A FEW RULES AND THEN WE'LL JUST DO LIKE A NORMAL, AS NORMAL AS WE CAN BE STANDING IN THE PARKING LOT. . SO WE'RE GONNA DO STAFF AS A PRESENTATION. I'M GONNA ASK APPLICANTS FOR THE PRESENTATION. SO STAFF IS TAKING NOTES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, UH, VIDEO. THEY'RE ALSO, THIS IS OUR AUDIO, SO WE GOTTA STAY CLOSE. ALSO, THE BEST, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. WE CAN'T TALK OVER EACH OTHER, SO EVERYTHING'S GONNA GO THROUGH ME. ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, ASK THE CHAIRMAN TO SPEAK. I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU. WE MOVE ON APPLICANTS AS WELL. WE'LL GIVE YOU YOUR TIME TO DO A PRESENTATION. IF YOU WANNA SPEAK AFTER, DURING DISCUSSION, ASK ME. I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU. ONE PERSON WILL TALK AT A TIME. THAT WAY THE TRANSCRIPT IS NOT CRAZY, CONVOLUTED. ANY QUESTIONS ON ALL THAT? OKAY. OKAY. STAFF, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UM, BRING US UP TO SPEED? SURE. UH, JUST A SECOND. OH, SORRY. UM, SO EVERYONE KNOWS THAT EVERYTHING FOR THIS PROJECT FOR TWO 15 SOUTH CENTER STREET, THE CENTER STREET LOSS, EVERYTHING HAS BEEN APPROVED, BUT THE BRICK COLOR, UM, CURRENTLY THERE ARE GOING TO THE BOARD OR MAYOR AND ALDERMAN FOR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. AND SO THE LACK OF PICKING A COLOR TODAY WON'T AFFECT THEM PROCEEDING TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT IT WOULD AFFECT THEM, UM, WITH THEIR BUILDING PERMIT. THEY NEED TO DETERMINE A, Y'ALL NEED TO DETERMINE A BRICK COLOR BEFORE THEY GET A BUILDING PERMIT. UM, JUST REMEMBER THAT THE CONDITION SAYS THAT THEY NEED TO TAKE INSPIRATION FOR PATRICIA'S ON THE SQUARE. AND AS YOU SEE, THEY HAVE FIVE SAMPLES LAID OUT IN FRONT OF YOU. UM, YOU CAN PICK, UH, WHAT COLOR YOU LIKE TODAY OR YOU CAN DO A DEFERRAL, WHICHEVER DECISION YOU THINK IS, IS BEST FOR TODAY. AND SO THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION. MY, LET MY, LET MS. HALL COME IN. SORRY. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COMMISSIONERS? OKAY. WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? UH, UM, GO AHEAD. YEAH, I JUST, WOULD YOU WANT ME TO TELL WHAT? YEAH. OKAY. SO, AND IF YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE, PLEASE LET US KNOW. OKAY. UM, SO I HAD, UH, CONSULTED WITH A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE WHO'S A BRICK SALESMAN FOR A MANUFACTURER. AND HE HELPED US PICK OUT FIVE COMBINATIONS. SO THE, THE, THE WAY THAT THEY'RE STACKED, TOP AND BOTTOM IS, IS ONLY REPRESENTATIVE OF A DARKER AND A LIGHTER BRICK. BASED ON THE ILLUSTRATIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE SHOWING WHERE A DARKER BRICK WOULD BE AND WHERE A LIGHTER BRICK WOULD BE. SO IN THE, THE PASS OUT THAT I GAVE YOU, IT, IT NAMES EACH BRICK ALONG WITH EACH MORTAR COLOR. UM, AND THE INTENT WAS THAT WE WOULD PICK ONE OF THESE FIVE COMBINATIONS, NOT THAT WE WOULD REARRANGE, UH, 'CAUSE THAT WOULD GET FAIRLY COMPLICATED. UM, SO, AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF ONE OF THE BLACK P WINDOWS THAT WOULD BE IN, IN REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF THE BUILDING. IF I HAD A PERSONAL FAVORITE. INTERESTINGLY, I KINDA LIKED THE SECOND STACK COMBINATION, BUT I'M NOT SURE I REALLY LIKE THE WAY THAT THEY MIX THE MORTARS. UH, AFTER LOOKING AT IT, I REALLY BEGAN TO LIKE THIS ONE ON THE FAR RIGHT. AND I THINK THIS IS VERY PLEASING TO WHAT THE TOWN HAS LOOKED FOR SO FAR, WITH SOME MORE DARKER, UM, TRADITIONAL COLORS. SO, BUT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PREFERENCE. WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY WITH WHATEVER THE, THE TOWN, UH, IS ABLE TO COME UP WITH. SO THAT'S REALLY ALL I GOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO YOU WANT, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? ANYONE FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO DO NOW IS JUST DISCUSS AND SEE WHAT WE THINK. WHICH COLORS DO YOU LIKE? WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE YOU THINKING ABOUT IT? UM, [00:05:01] LEMME SEE. I LIKE THE ONE RIGHT NOW. I WANNA SEE THE, I THOUGHT THE ANTEBELLUM BRICK AND, BUT I SEE THAT END OUT RIGHT HERE. YEAH. YEAH. WE, I LIKE THE ANTEBELLUM BRICK AND BOTH MORTAR. OKAY. OKAY. SO JUST FOR ME ON THE, ON THE RENDERINGS, WHICH COLOR IS WHICH? YEAH, WELL THE, WHAT FIONA KEPT CALLING THE, LET'S SAY THE FAR RIGHT. THE FAR RIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. SO THE ANTEBELLUM RIGHT WOULD BE THE LIGHTER MM-HMM . AND THEN THE OLD MISSISSIPPI, I THINK IT IS, WOULD BE THE DARKER. SO THAT'S THE ANTEBELLUM? YEP. THIS WOULD BE THE ANTEBELLUM, THIS WOULD BE THE OLD MISSISSIPPI. RIGHT. AND YOU, YOU'D HAVE OLD MISSISSIPPI. HERE. HERE THE FIRST FLOOR IS OLD MISSISSIPPI AND IN HERE, MIXED IN WOULD BE THE, THE ANTEBELLUM. RIGHT. OKAY. SO WHAT ARE WE THINKING? GO AHEAD. WILL YOU TAKE A MOTION? I WILL, I WOULD MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE ANTEBELLUM BRICK AND THE FRENCH COUNTRY. BRICK AND BMORE. IN OTHER WORDS, THE TOP RIGHT HAND SIDE. AND THIS ONE'S A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AFTER WE SECOND IT. I'LL SECOND IT. OKAY. IF SOMEBODY HAS A, I'M PRETTY SOLID ON THE TOP RIGHT. BUT IF I'M, I REALLY DON'T, IF THE BOTTOM IS EITHER ONE, IF THE BOTTOM RIGHTS OR PREFERABLE, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND IF, AND DISCUSS FOR DISCUSSION. I THINK THEIR DESIGNER PUT THE OVER UNDER TO GO TOGETHER. 'CAUSE WE START MIXING, MATCHING EVERYTHING IT'LL GET THAT'S CONFUSING, I THINK IS WHAT, SO, SO I THINK WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO PICK 1, 2, 3, 4, OR FIVE. WELL, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL CHANGE MY MOTION TO THE, TO THE ANTEBELLUM AND THE OLD MISSISSIPPI WITH THE BUFF MORTAR ON BOTH. YES. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANYTHING ON IT? JUST AN OBSERVATION. GO AHEAD. THE FOUNDATION OF GUS'S, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP RIGHT, THEY'RE VERY CLOSE. MM-HMM . AND SO AS FAR AS A PRECEDENCE, YOU KNOW THERE'S A REASON FOR IT. JUST SO THAT'S A ON RECORD? YES. GOOD POINT. LOOKS OLDER. LIKE ANTE BELLA? YEAH. OKAY. WHAT'S THE NAME? I LIKE THE PAIR. OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL AND VOTE ON IT. COMMISSIONER LOONEY? YES. COMMISSIONER COX. AYE. COMMISSIONER DEAN? YES. COMMISSIONER GIVEN? YES. COMMISSIONER HALL? YES. COMMISSIONER WALKER? AYE CHAIRMAN KELSEY? YES. ALRIGHT. OUTSTANDING. THAT WAS EASY, RIGHT? THE OFFICIAL. WHY DID WE DO THIS SIX MONTHS AGO? . YOU OKAY? WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED 'CAUSE WE CAN Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR NO? THANK Y'ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, AJOUR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.