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THAT WARMTH FROM FOLKS THAT WANT TO SPEAK ON A CERTAIN TOPIC TONIGHT. BUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN A PART OF OUR MEETING WHERE IF YOU ARE HERE AND WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, NOW IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY. GOING ONCE, GOING

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TWICE. CLOSED. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. NOW, MAY I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH IS CASE 261318. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALRIGHT. MOTION MADE AND SECONDED.

ANGELA, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. ROZANSKI. YES. MISS FLETCHER. YES. DOCTOR GREEN. YES. MR. DUBOSE. YES. MR. GIBBONS. YES. MR. BATES. YES.

MR. SLED. YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE INTO OUR FORMAL

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AGENDA TONIGHT. CASE NUMBER 861907. AND I THINK DON, ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? ALRIGHT.

GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. MCCARTHY GRANDBERRY ENGINEERING REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER, STANDARD CONSTRUCTION, WHOSE OWNED THE PROPERTY SINCE 1999. THEY'RE REQUESTING A RECOMMENDATION OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A HOT MIX ASPHALT FACILITY LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF PROGRESS ROAD AND KILL ROAD, JUST NORTH OF STATE ROUTE 385. THE 35 ACRE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY VACANT AND HAS BEEN ZONED GENERAL INDUSTRIAL SINCE 1999. IT'S SURROUNDED BY RESTRICTIVE INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO THE NORTH AND WEST, WHILE THE PROPERTIES TO THE EAST AND SOUTH ARE ZONED GENERAL INDUSTRIAL. THE USE. PAVING MATERIALS MANUFACTURING DOES REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BEFORE THEY ARE ALLOWED TO OPERATE WITH ANY. WITHIN THE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. THE PROPERTY OWNER STATES THEY INTEND TO VOLUNTARILY CLOSE THE EXISTING FACILITY ON FRANK ROAD, TWO YEARS AFTER THE STARTUP OF THE PROGRESS ROAD SITE. A SEPARATE FINAL SITE PLAN WILL BE. NEED WILL NEED TO BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE TOWN AND IF THE PROPERTY IS SUBDIVIDED, A FINAL PLAT WILL ALSO NEED TO BE RECORDED BEFORE ANY BUILDING PERMITS CAN BE ISSUED. ON AUGUST 18TH, THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING HELD AT THE FUNERAL HOME. AT THAT MEETING, THERE WERE TWO ATTENDEES WHO WERE GENERALLY

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SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT, BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE APPROPRIATE SCREENING AND DUST AND NOISE MITIGATION. THIS NON-BINDING CONCEPTUAL DRAWING DOES SHOW THE FACILITY THE ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING THE LABORATORY MAINTENANCE AND STORAGE BUILDINGS, TRUCK CIRCULATION AREAS, OFFICE FACILITIES, SILOS AND AGGREGATE STOCKPILE AREAS.

THE FACILITY IS ANTICIPATED TO PRODUCE ABOUT 300 350 TO 400 TONS, 400 000 TONS OF ASPHALT ANNUALLY, WHICH WILL SUPPLEMENT THE PRODUCTION CAPACITY AT THE EXISTING FACILITY ON FRANK ROAD.

THE FACILITY FACILITY WILL HAVE ABOUT 7 TO 10 EMPLOYEES AND OPERATE BETWEEN 6 A.M. AND 6 P.M. 5 TO 6 DAYS A WEEK FROM APRIL TO NOVEMBER, WITH LIMITED SEASONAL NIGHTTIME OPERATIONS TO SUPPORT PAVING ACTIVITIES AND TIME SENSITIVE PROJECTS. AND THERE ARE SOME OUT PARCELS ALONG THAT ARE OWNED BY STANDARD CONSTRUCTION ALONG KEOUGH AND PROGRESS ROAD. THOSE WILL BE SOLD IN THE FUTURE AND THEY ARE NOT A PART OF THIS REQUEST. THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY IS RESERVED FOR ON SITE STORMWATER DETENTION, AND THIS WILL BE FURTHER REVIEWED AT THE FINAL SITE PLAN STATUS PROCESS. SORRY, THE TREE CANOPY ON YOUR MAP SHOWS THE HEAVILY WOODED TRACT AS WELL AS THE EXTENT OF THE TREE CANOPY THAT MAY BE AFFECTED. ONCE THIS SITE IS DEVELOPED, THE APPLICANT STATES THEY DO INTEND TO PRESERVE EXISTING VEGETATION AND INCORPORATE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING TO FURTHER SCREEN THE OPERATIONS FROM ADJACENT PROPERTIES. A CONDITION HAS BEEN ADDED TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS ADEQUATE LANDSCAPE SCREENING OF ADEQUATE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING AROUND THE PROPERTY. THE PROPOSED FACILITY WILL GENERATE ABOUT 260 VEHICLE TRUCKS PER TRIPS PER DAY, WITH MOST OF THOSE BEING TRUCKS. THE SITE WILL HAVE TWO ACCESS POINTS ONTO PROGRESS ROAD, WITH A DEDICATED INBOUND DRIVEWAY AND A DEDICATED NORTHBOUND. A DEDICATED OUTBOUND OUTBOUND DRIVEWAY ON THE NORTHERN ACCESS POINT. THE SURROUNDING ROADWAY NETWORK SHOULD NOT BE SURROUNDED, THOUGH. SURROUNDING ROADWAY NETWORK HAS THE CAPACITY TO ACCOMMODATE THE PROJECTED TRIPS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. TRUCK TRAFFIC FROM THIS PLANT SHOULD NOT USE QUINN ROAD, AND THE TOWN IS GOING TO RESTRICT ITS USE. AND I WILL SAY THAT TRAFFIC SIGNS THAT SAY NO TRUCKS HAVE ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED BY THE TOWN TO. FOR THIS WATER AND SEWER CAPACITY AT THIS LOCATION IS SUFFICIENT TO ACCOMMODATE THE USE. AND THE PUBLIC UTILITIES DEPARTMENT HAS STATED THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THIS RIGHT NOW AS THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING AGGREGATE WASHING, WHICH DOES REDUCE THE WATER DEMAND. IF THE PRODUCTION CAPACITY IS EXPANDED. ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WILL BE NEEDED TO PERFORM A WATER AND SEWER STUDY CAPACITY. APPROVAL OF THE Q P IS RECOMMENDED WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, AS THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GROUNDS FOR THE ISSUANCE OF A Q P AND THE PROPOSED USE AND SITE DESIGN IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, AND IT DOES MINIMIZE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE A BMA MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 28TH. A FINAL SITE PLAN, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, A FINAL PLAT, AND ANY BUILDING AND FENCE AND SIGN PERMITS THAT MAY BE NEEDED. THE PROPOSED MOTION IS ON YOUR SCREEN AND IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A Q P TO ALLOW A HOT MIX ASPHALT FACILITY ON 35.15 ACRES LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF PROGRESS AND KILL ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS THERE ON YOUR SCREEN AND THERE ARE 18 CONDITIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH CONDITION NUMBER 16, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK AND NUMBER 18 HIGHLIGHTED IN ORANGE AT THE BOTTOM, WAS AGREED UPON AND ADDED TODAY AFTER DISCUSSION WITH THE APPLICANT. AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM YOUR EXHIBIT NINE, THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT YOUR SEATS. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT THE EFFECTS OF THIS FACILITY ON THE COMMUNITY, AND ADDING THIS CONDITION IS PROBABLY THE MOST IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE WAY TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS. FOR THIS INDUSTRIAL ZONE PROPERTY. SO WITH THAT CONDITION OF APPROVAL, NUMBER 18, AIR QUALITY WILL BE EVALUATED BY THE SHELBY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT VIA A PERMIT AND WITHOUT A PERMIT. THIS DEVELOPMENT CAN PROCEED THROUGH THE TOWN'S REVIEW PROCESS. AND I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. YOU

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CAN ALSO ADD EXTRA CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IF YOU DEEM IT NECESSARY, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE REASONABLE. AND THIS DOES CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DON. I HAVE A QUESTION IN. THERE WAS TALK ABOUT THE TRAFFIC FLOW THAT QUINN ROAD WOULD NOT BE USABLE FOR THE TRUCK TRAFFIC, BUT DOES THAT MEAN IT'S AVAILABLE FOR KEOGH OR ANY OF THE OTHER ROADS THAT ARE YOU KNOW, HOW WAS QUINN, YOU KNOW, TAKEN OUT AS THE ONLY ROAD IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO USE? OH, THE TRAFFIC TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER BE HERE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. SO. AT THIS POINT WE'VE ONLY RESTRICTED TRUCK TRAFFIC ON QUINN ROAD. THE TRUCKS CAN USE OTHER ROADWAYS. HOWEVER, THEIR MOST DIRECT ROAD IS TO GO DOWN PROGRESS TO SHELBY DRIVE. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY'RE ALSO MOVING THERE. THAT'S WHAT THEY DISCUSSED AT THE PRE-APPLICATION MEETING, SO THEY CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THE HIGHWAYS AND ROUTE 72. I UNDERSTAND IT JUST SEEMED ODD THAT QUINN WAS TAKEN, BUT NOT KEOGH. THAT'S RIGHT THERE ALSO. BUT THAT GOES INTO THE THE REASON FOR QUINN WAS BECAUSE THERE IS SIGNAGE ON THERE THAT SAYS THAT NO TRUCKS ARE ALLOWED ON QUINN AND QUINN ALSO HAS THE MIDDLE SCHOOL THAT'S LOCATED ON IT. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

WILL YOU WILL YOU GO OVER WHAT THE EXISTING ZONING AROUND THE FACILITY IS? I SEE IT, ARE I.

YEAH, THE EXISTING OF THE PROPOSED SITE. WELL, I KNOW I SEE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL, BUT WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT'S THE RE DESIGNATION. R1 RESTRICTIVE IS LIKE IT'S MORE RESTRICTIVE. THERE'S LESS INDUSTRIAL USES YOU CAN DO IN THE ZONING DISTRICT. AND I WOULD ADD RA DOES NOT ALLOW EXTERIOR ACTIVITY. EVERYTHING HAS TO BE INDOORS. GI DOES ALLOW FOR EXTERIOR ACTIVITY. WE'VE TRIED REALLY HARD TO NOT HAVE GI DISTRICTS ALONG PROGRESS ROAD, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DISTRICTS ARE ONLY ALONG PROGRESS ROAD, TRYING TO KEEP EVERYTHING INDOORS. WE DO HAVE A RATHER LARGE INDUSTRIAL PARK THAT GOES BACK MANY YEARS.

THAT'S WHERE THE TOWN'S PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY IS LOCATED ON KEY ROAD. THAT AREA IS ZONED GENERAL INDUSTRIAL AND HAS BEEN FOR SOME TIME, BUT WE'RE PRETTY DISCERNING ABOUT WHERE WE ALLOW NEW GENERAL INDUSTRIAL THESE DAYS. SO THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY IS INDOOR INDUSTRIAL, WHILE THE INTERIOR OF THE PROPERTY IS GENERAL INDUSTRIAL.

CORRECT THAT THE FRONTAGE ALONG THE ROADS. CORRECT. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. DON. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND THE APPLICANT IS HERE. CHAIR FROM THE APPLICANT. JOHN MCCARTHY MCCARTY, GRANBURY ENGINEERING, 198 PROGRESS ROAD, PARENT CARNIVAL. OUR OFFICE JUST HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT NORTH OF THIS SITE. THE GOAL TONIGHT IS TO GET THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPROVED FOR STANDARD TO MOVE THEIR OPERATIONS FROM FRANK ROAD. THEY WERE ACTUALLY PARTNERS IN THE PROGRESS ROAD DEVELOPMENT IN THE LATE 90S THAT BUILT PROGRESS ROAD WHERE IT DID NOT EXIST AND, YOU KNOW, WORKED OUT THE BRIDGE AND EVERYTHING WITH THE INTERSTATE AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE THE INDUSTRIAL PARK DOWN HERE IN THIS AREA THAT EXTENDED SOUTH FROM THE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL AREA. OBVIOUSLY, PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS OVER ANYTHING, POTENTIAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT. IT SEEMS AS TIME GOES ON, IT'S BECOME MORE OF A SENSITIVE ISSUE BETWEEN DATA CENTERS AND PIPELINES. AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT EVERYBODY THAT HAS CONCERNS. ASPHALT PLANTS AREN'T THE REAL CONCERN, ESPECIALLY IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA LIKE THIS.

THE CURRENT FRANK ROAD SITE, I MEASURED IT TODAY. IT'S GOT HOUSES WITHIN LIKE 550FT OF IT, AND IT'S A THIRD OVER A THIRD OF A MILE TO ANY OF THE GEORGETOWN RESIDENCE HOUSES, WHICH I ASSUME THEY DID NOT KNOW THAT THAT AREA WAS ZONED GENERAL INDUSTRIAL WHEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOUSES OVER THERE. SOMETIMES THAT'S UNFORTUNATE NATURE THAT WE ALL RUN INTO.

I'M SURE Y'ALL HEARD IT BEFORE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WORKING WITH STANDARD CONSTRUCTION AND WE'VE GOT WILL HUNT WITH THE STANDARD HERE TONIGHT TO ANSWER SOME MORE OF THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. BUT THE SHELBY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT DOES ALL THE PERMITTING ON THE AIR QUALITY. WE DID SEND THE CONDITION OVER THAT WE AGREED TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BUT IT IS A WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO TO TO FINALIZE THE PERMIT WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO BUILD THE PLAN AS WELL. BUT THEN THEY COME OUT AND TEST. BUT THEY DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY.

IF IF THEY'RE NOT OPERATING WITHIN THEIR LIMITS TO ACTUALLY SHUT THE PLANT DOWN. AND

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STANDARD DOES UNDERSTAND THAT'S A RISK OF DEALING WITH IT. THE TRAFFIC PROGRESS ROADS REALLY THE ONLY WAY IN AND OUT YOU GO EAST ON KEOGH, YOU'RE IN PIPERTON AND THERE'S NO TRUCKS EAST OF PYRAMIX AND POWER AND TAILS GOING WEST. THE ONLY REASON THEY WOULD GO WEST IS IF THEY'RE PAVING SOMETHING IN THE HEART OF COLLIERVILLE, SOUTH OF THE SQUARE. SO THERE'S REALLY NO TRAFFIC CONCERNS FROM AN OVERALL TOWN TRAFFIC ASPECT. IT MAKES A LOT MORE SENSE TO HAVE THEM DOWN, BECAUSE PROBABLY 80 TO 90% WILL GO SOUTH AND GO OUT ON 269 OR 385. OVERALL, I THINK IT'S A 50 FOOT BUFFER OR 100 FOOT BUFFER ON THE EAST SIDE THAT WERE PROMISED. I CAN'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT IT'S ENOUGH TO PREVENT THE THE UNSIGHTLY ASPECTS OF THE STOCKPILES FROM POWERTEL. THERE IS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM POWERTEL TONIGHT, AND WE ASKED IF HE WOULD SPEAK IN FAVOR OF US AND HE DIDN'T WANT TO STAND UP, BUT HE WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT CAME TO THE MEETING THE OTHER NIGHT THAT IS IN FAVOR, BUT DEFINITELY WANTS IT SCREENED. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE IT. MY OFFICE IS RIGHT NORTH OF HERE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY DOUBTS THAT THE WAY THIS SITE IS GOING TO BE LOCATED, IT'S GOING TO LOOK A LOT BETTER TO THE PUBLIC THAN THE ONE ON FRANK ROAD. QUESTIONS. JOHN, I HAVE A QUESTION. YES, SIR. WHY ARE YOU OBJECTING TO THE CONDITIONAL CONDITION ABOUT THE CONCRETE DRIVE ENTRANCES INTO THE. I'M ASSUMING THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT THE TRAFFIC TO. OR THE HEAVY TRUCKS TO CHEW UP THE ASPHALT AS IT'S MAKING THE TURNS IN AND OUT OF THE FACILITY. I ASSUME THAT'S WHY THE TOWN HAS THE CONDITION. SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF STANDARD CONSTRUCTION THAT'S IN THE ASPHALT BUSINESS, THEY KNOW HOW TO PAVE HEAVY DUTY ASPHALT DRIVEWAYS, AND THEY'D RATHER NOT CALL THEIR COMPETITOR TO COME PUT CONCRETE DOWN. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCCARTY. I'VE GOT A QUESTION. WE'VE BEEN TOLD WHAT THE EXPECTED PRODUCTION IS GOING TO BE HERE. WHAT IS THE CURRENT PRODUCTION AT THE FRANK ROAD SITE? IT'S VERY EQUIVALENT TO IT. IT'S ALMOST THE SAME AMOUNT. HOW TALL ARE THE CURRENT SILOS AT THE CURRENT SITE? 80FT. NOW THE QUESTIONS AND THEY'LL THEY'LL SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN TWO YEARS AFTER TWO YEARS AFTER WHAT WHAT WAS IT SAID? SO ONCE WE GOT THE NEW PLANT OPERATIONAL, WHAT OUR PROMISE WAS IS THAT WE WOULD BASICALLY VACATE THE THE OPERATIONS AT FRANK ROAD. THE INTENTIONS ARE TO BE QUICKER THAN THAT. BUT SETTING UP ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND GOING THROUGH THE STOCKPILE PROCESS AND MATERIAL PROCESSING AND GET OPERATIONAL TWO YEARS ALLOWS THEM ENOUGH BUFFER THAT IF ANYTHING HAPPENS THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET NEW EQUIPMENT OR GET WHATEVER OPERATING CORRECTLY, DO THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A PERMIT FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT? YES. REGARDING THE AIR QUALITY, YES. THEY THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT WITH THAT, WHETHER IT'S A GRANDFATHERED USE OR NOT, DUE TO THE NORMAL STATE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS, HOW OFTEN DO THEY HAVE TO RENEW THOSE PERMITS AT STANDARD? IT'S AN ANNUAL PERMIT. OKAY. SO THE ONE OPERATING CURRENTLY AT FRANK ROAD HAS PASSED ALL OF THE AIR CON. AND WE ACTUALLY EXPECT THE NEW PLANT TO OPERATE CLEANER THAN THE OLD PLANT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY NEWER EQUIPMENT, BETTER TECHNOLOGIES. SO, JOHN, I HAVE A QUESTION AS IT PERTAINED TO THE 80 FOOT SILOS, WHAT'S THE CURRENT SETBACK OF THE CURRENT PLANT FROM FRANK ROAD, THOSE SILOS SET BACK FROM FRANK ROAD COMPARED TO WHAT THE SILOS WOULD BE SET BACK FROM ROAD? THESE WILL BE SET BACK A LOT MORE THAN FRANK FROM KEOGH. SO YOUR SIGHTLINES FROM THE PUBLIC ROAD RIGHT OF WAY ARE GOING TO BE A LOT BETTER. MUCH, MUCH BETTER. YEAH. AND OUR INTENTIONS ARE TO TO LEAVE FULL STRIPS OF BUFFER ALL ALONG THE KIO. REALLY ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE SITE THE MOST IS BEING LEFT ALONG THE INTERSTATE BECAUSE IT'S THE, THE EASIEST PART TO, TO LEAVE AWAY. AND IT'S THE MOST VISIBLE FROM THE ELEVATION OF THE INTERSTATE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCCARTY? COMMISSIONER. THANKS. JUST CURIOSITY QUESTION. SO IS ANY OF THIS EQUIPMENT ON FRANK ROAD GOING TO BE USED OVER ON PROGRESS ROAD? AND THEN WHEN THEY DO DETERMINE THIS, WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO SHUT IT DOWN, ALL THIS EQUIPMENT BE MOVED AND TAKEN AWAY. SO THE EQUIPMENT ON FRANK ROAD WILL BE REMOVED. I DON'T THINK IT'S THE INTENTIONS TO TRY TO REUSE ANY OF THAT EQUIPMENT. THEY'LL CONTINUE TO USE FRANK ROAD AS THEY BUILD OUT THE FULL PLAN AND GET IT 100% OPERATIONAL. THEY DO HAVE TO GO THROUGH CERTAIN TESTS WITH PLACES LIKE T-DOT THAT HAVE TO COME IN AND LIKE EVERY TIME A T-DOT JOBS PAVED, T-DOT INSPECTOR GOES TO THE ASPHALT PLANT AND THEY HAVE TO, THERE'S A LOT OF CONTROLS THAT GO INTO IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THE ASPHALT THAT TDOT'S BUY ON HOLDS UP WELL. SO THEY'LL HAVE TO KEEP FRANK ROAD OPERATIONAL AND MET UP TO T-DOT STANDARDS WHILE THE OTHER PLANTS BEING INSTALLED. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO SALVAGE THE EQUIPMENT AND USE IT AT SOME OTHER PLACE OR SELL IT, BUT THEY'LL HAVE TO KEEP FRANK ROAD COMPLETELY OPERATIONAL TO THE

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NEW PLAN IS 100% OPERATIONAL. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU JOHN.

APPRECIATE Y'ALL. COMMISSIONER. GIVEN. I DID THINK OF ONE PROJECT YOU WERE WORRIED ABOUT, THE STRUCTURAL STRENGTH OF THE ASPHALT. THE VULCAN PLANT OUT IN ROSSVILLE HAS AN ASPHALT DRIVEWAY GOING INTO IT, AND I HAD A PROJECT THAT LAID A WATER LINE ACROSS THE FRONT OF IT, AND IT WAS LIKE 18IN OF ASPHALT, BUT THERE WAS NO SETTLEMENT, NO RUTS WHATSOEVER. SO IT CAN BE HELD OFF. BUT IF THAT'S AN ISSUE WITH THE TOWN OF COLLIERVILLE RELATIVE TO THE CONCRETE OVER ASPHALT, THAT'S NOT A HILL WORTH DYING ON. IT NOT BEING APPROVED OVER, I THINK NEED TO PROBABLY LOOK AT THE ASPHALT SECTION. SHE APPROVES IT. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY ANYTHING. THANK YOU. AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE EIGHT BLUE CARDS, BUT FOLKS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ABOUT THE PROJECT. NOW YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. EACH OF YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES. SO WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS AND TELL US WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND. AND IF I MISPRONOUNCE YOUR NAME, PLEASE FORGIVE ME. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IN THE FIRST ONE. RAJA. THANK YOU FOR WRITING THAT UP HERE BECAUSE I WOULDN'T HAVE DONE WELL WITH THE REST OF IT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU TIM, I APPRECIATE IT TO BE HERE. MY CONCERN IS THAT IF I, WHEN I MOVED INTO MY STATE. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. YES. MY NAME IS UDAY. LAST NAME RAJA. I LIVE AT 524 MOUNT IVY DRIVE, COLLEYVILLE. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. SO WHEN I SEE WHEN I MOVED INTO THE PROPERTY AND I EXCITED WHEN I MOVED IN BECAUSE I SEE AROUND 30 TO 40 KIDS, THEY LIVE AND THEY PLAY AND ENJOY THE LIFE, RIGHT? AND I SEE THE COMMUNITY ELDERS MOVE, WALK IN THAT COMMUNITY. SO I ENJOYED A LOT. AND I THINK SEEING THIS ASPHALT FACTORY COMING IN, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE YOUNG KIDS, YOU KNOW, SIX TO 10 TO 15 YEARS OLD KIDS, THEIR HEALTH. AND THESE ARE THE FUTURE LEADERS THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PROVIDE A SAFER AND A CLEANER ENVIRONMENT. AND, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS ENVIRONMENT MAY PRODUCE AND WE MIGHT LOSE ALL THE THE SMILE IN THESE KIDS LOSS FOREVER. SO MY CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, LET'S STOP IT AND LET'S PROVIDE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR THE KIDS AND THE ADULTS FOR THIS COMMUNITY. AND ALSO, I'M JUST READING IT, IT'S LIKE LESS THAN 800FT AWAY FROM WHERE THIS PLACE IS BUILT. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT IS KIND OF CONCERNING A LOT OF AREAS, YOU KNOW, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY THE, THE HEALTH AND ALL OF THAT. SO I JUST HUMBLY REQUEST THAT, YOU KNOW, LET'S PUT SOME EFFORT AND MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN AND WE'LL PROVIDE A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, A CLEANER ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR KIDS AND OUR FAMILIES. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. I THINK YOU HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WITH YOU THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER WITH YOU THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO BE THE SAME, YOU GOT DUPLICATE THE CARDS ON. OKAY, WELL, WE HAVE A CARD AND I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO.

YEAH. WE HAVE A YES, YES. SHE DEDICATES HER TIME TO BE HERE. OKAY. AND AND. MA'AM. OKAY.

YOU'RE MISS JOHNSON. YES, MISS JOHNSON, COME ON UP, THEN. HELLO. MY NAME IS DOCTOR COURTNEY JOHNSON. I LIVE AT 523 MOUNT IVY. I AM IN THE SUBDIVISION OF GEORGETOWN. AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW FROM THE PANEL WHO HERE WANTS TO LIVE NEXT TO A HOT MIX ASPHALT FACILITY? A SHOW OF HANDS. ANYBODY? I HAVE TO VOLUNTEER. I LIVE PRETTY CLOSE TO ONE RIGHT NOW, BUT I'M SURE YOU DON'T WANT TO LIVE THERE. I MEAN, YOU DON'T WANT IT NEAR YOUR HOUSE.

AND IT REALLY HASN'T BOTHERED ME PERSONALLY. OKAY, OKAY. WELL, MOST PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO LIVE NEXT TO A HOT MIX ASPHALT FACILITY BECAUSE OF THE NOISE, TRAFFIC, HORRIFIC SMELLS, NEGATIVE EFFECTS ON PROPERTY VALUE AND TOXIC EMISSIONS, AND THE PROPOSED HOT MIX ASPHALT FACILITY PROPERTY LINE IS LESS THAN 850FT FROM GEORGETOWN COMMUNITY PROPERTY LINE. THAT'S LESS THAN 259M, LESS THAN 16 HUNDREDTHS OF A MILE. OUR FAMILIES LIVE, SLEEP, PLAY IN THIS HEALTH RISK ZONE THAT IS NOWHERE NEAR SAFE DISTANCE FROM THE PROPOSED FACILITY. I'M ASKING THE PLANNING COMMITTEE TO REQUIRE INDEPENDENT CUMULATIVE HEALTH IMPACT

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ASSESSMENT FOR HOMES WITHIN 1000FT BEFORE A PERMIT DECISION IS FINALIZED. THE ASSESSMENT SHOULD BE MADE PUBLIC BEFORE YOU VOTE. ALSO, THE PROPOSED ASPHALT FACILITY IS LESS THAN ONE MILE FROM COLLIERVILLE MIDDLE, LESS THAN TWO MILES FROM COLLIERVILLE HIGH SCHOOL AND ABOUT 1.7 MILES FROM THE TOWN SQUARE. I'VE READ MANY ONLINE ACCOUNTS ABOUT THIS AND NEWS STORIES SAYING THAT HOT MIX ASPHALT FUMES CAN BE SMELLED FOR TWO MILES AWAY. AND YOU MENTIONED MISTER COTTON THAT YOU LIVE CLOSE TO IT, BUT WHY IS THE ONE ON FRANK ROAD BEING MOVED? I'M HERE TO MAKE A DECISION. I HAVE NO IDEA, MA'AM. ACCORDING TO THE EPA, HOT MIX ASPHALT FACILITIES RELEASED TONS OF TOXIC EMISSIONS PER YEAR INTO THE AIR. THE PROPOSED HOT MIX ASPHALT FACILITY CAN RELEASE ANYWHERE FROM 92 TO 100 TONS OF TOXIC EMISSIONS, INCLUDING PARTICULATE MATTER, PM TWO POINT 5 P.M. TEN, WHICH CAN GET DEEP DOWN THE LUNGS.

YOUR BLOODSTREAM ASSOCIATED WITH PREMATURE DEATH, HEART ATTACK, STROKE, COPD, ASTHMA, AND OTHER HEALTH RISKS. SULFUR DIOXIDE AND NITROGEN OXIDE ARE SOME OF THE OTHER EMISSIONS WHICH CAN IRRITATE EYES, SKIN, RESPIRATORY TRACT, EXACERBATE, EXACERBATE, EXISTING AND LUNG DISEASE SUCH AS ASTHMA OR CAUSE CHRONIC LUNG DISEASE. THIS VOLATILE ORGANIC COMPOUNDS, WHICH ARE ALSO EMISSIONS FROM SUCH PLANTS, WHICH CAN CAUSE SHORT TERM EXPOSURE SYMPTOMS SUCH AS EYES, NOSE AND THROAT IRRITATION, HEADACHES, DIZZINESS AND NAUSEA. LONG TERM EXPOSURE CAN CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM. LIVER, KIDNEYS, INCREASED RISK FOR CANCER DUE TO CHEMICALS SUCH AS BENZENE. THIS ALSO EMISSIONS OF POLYCYCLIC AROMATIC HYDROCARBONS ASSOCIATED WITH SHORT TERM EXPOSURE OF EYE IRRITATION, NAUSEA, VOMITING, LONG TERM EXPOSURE, RISK OF LIVER AND KIDNEY DAMAGE, AND DIFFICULTY BREATHING. NOT ONLY WILL THE ASPHALT FACILITY HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON HEALTH, BUT NEARBY ASPHALT FACILITIES CAN HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON PROPERTY VALUE WITH LOSS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS PRETTY NEW. IT'S A NEW COMMUNITY, AND MOVING IT NEAR OUR COMMUNITY CAN CAUSE SOME MORTGAGES TO BE UNDERWATER. AS FOR PLANTS ARE KNOWN TO NEGATIVELY IMPACT PROPERTY VALUE FOR UP TO THREE MILE RADIUS, I IMPLORE YOU TO DENY THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE HOT MIX ASPHALT FACILITY ON PROGRESS ROAD, BECAUSE THE RISK OUTWEIGHS THE BENEFITS. WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG CHILDREN IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT LOVE PLAYING OUTSIDE, BUT HAVING A HOT MIX ASPHALT FACILITY SO NEARBY, SAFE ZONE.

I THINK WE'RE OVER A MILE. THIS IS LIKE WE'RE WAY LESS THAN A QUARTER OF A MILE. IT'S GOING TO INCREASE THEIR RISK FOR ASTHMA. AND THE PLAN FOR THE HOT MIX ASPHALT FACILITY IS TO RUN FROM 6 A.M. TO 6 P.M. SIX DAYS A WEEK, ESPECIALLY DURING THE HOT, HOT MONTHS FROM APRIL TO NOVEMBER. I'M SORRY. AND SO THIS MAY NOT ONLY HAVE A HIGH RISK OF NEGATIVE EFFECT ON OUR HEALTH, BUT WILL DEFINITELY BE DETRIMENTAL TO OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND FINANCES. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO THIS HOT MIX ASPHALT FACILITY IS GOING TO BE PERMANENT, CORRECT? IF IT'S GRANTED, IS THAT CORRECT? AND WHY IS THE ONE ON FRANK ROAD? WHY ARE THEY MOVING IT TO THIS NEW LOCATION? WHY DO THEY WANT TO MOVE IT? THANK YOU. I PROBABLY NEED TO TALK TO THE APPLICANT ABOUT THAT, MA'AM. ARE THEY OKAY? AND THEN THE OTHER. DOES THE FACILITY HAVE REQUIREMENTS FOR A BLUE SMOKE CONTROL SYSTEM, BACK HOUSE DUST COLLECTORS. AND I THINK IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT WAS A CUMULATIVE AIR QUALITY IMPACT ASSESSMENT PERFORMED. BEFORE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU MA'AM. MISS. MISS. BUT I APOLOGIZE IF I MISPRONOUNCED IT. RIGHT, SIR. MR. GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. I'M HERE TODAY TO OPPOSE. STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE. MR. 496 LAUREL PARK DRIVE, COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE.

THANK YOU SIR. YES, SIR. I LIVE IN GEORGETOWN. THAT IS JUST BANG OPPOSITE WHERE THE NEW PLANT IS COMING. OKAY. IT WAS A PRIME LOCATION, AND WHEN I MOVED IN, I LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY AROUND AND I TOOK THAT HOUSE OVER THERE. BUT HAD I TO KNOW THIS PLANT WAS COMING UP OVER THERE, I WOULD HAVE NOT BOUGHT MY HOUSE OVER THERE. THE SIMPLE REASON IS THE DUST, THE POLLUTION, THE THE, ALL THE NOISE THAT AND THE SMELL IS ASPHALT. ASPHALT SMELL. WHEN

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YOU. WHEN THE ROAD IS LAID, YOU HAVE SMELL OF ASPHALT FOR 2 OR 3 DAYS. HERE THE PLANT IS BEING RUN CONTINUOUSLY WITH A SMALL BREAK IN THE NIGHT. BUT THE SMELL IS NOT GOING TO STOP.

IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP. SO I WOULD ASK THE SPEAKERS WHO WERE TALKING FOR THE COMPANY STANDARD CONSTRUCTION. WOULD THEY HAVE TAKEN A HOUSE WHERE IF THEY KNEW THAT THERE HAS ASPHALT PLANT IS COMING? NO. SURELY NOT. THEY WILL BE NOT AGREE TO LIVE OVER THERE. I HAVE SPENT MORE THAN PRIME RATE FOR THAT HOUSE. MY HOUSE WILL START GOING. THE PRICE OF THE HOUSE WILL START GOING DOWN AS SOON AS THIS PLANT STARTS OPERATING. SO THIS IS A VERY BAD PROPOSITION AND I DON'T WANT APPROVAL TO BE GIVEN TO THEM. OKAY. AND THIS ANOTHER THING IS WHEN THEY HAD A NEIGHBORING NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING, NONE OF US WERE AWARE.

NONE. THAT'S WHY YOU HAD ONLY TWO PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR THAT. BUT YOU SEE, FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD, EVERYBODY HAS TURNED UP TODAY. WHY? BECAUSE WE HAD NO INFORMATION AT ALL.

SO WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING DID THEY HAVE? NOTHING. IT IS JUST AN EYEWASH THAT THEY HAD A MEETING AND THAT'S ALL. BUT I, I WOULD NOT AGREE TO WHAT Y'ALL ARE DOING. AND I SURELY KNOW YOUR PANEL. YOU, YOU WILL NOT BE LIVING IN A PLACE WHERE SUCH THINGS ARE HAPPENING. SURELY NOT. THE POLLUTION IS BAD. BAD. I AM RETIRED, I'M A RETIRED MAN. I GO WALKING FIVE MILES A DAY, BUT NOW I'M SCARED TO GO FOR FIVE MILES BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GOING TO HURT ME. IT'S GOING TO HURT ME. SO IT'S NOT GOOD FOR ME NEITHER. FOR ALL THE YOUNG KIDS THAT ARE GOING AND GROWING UP IN MY AND IN GEORGETOWN, RIGHT BANG OPPOSITE IT IS, YOU SEE THAT IT'S JUST A THE WHAT IS THAT? I'M VERY BAD AT NAMES, YOU KNOW, PLEASANT ROAD. AND THE OTHER ONE IS THIS VERY BAD.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND PLEASE. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU.

THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU ALL. JASON GOTHARD. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JASON GOTHARD, 609 MOUNT LAUREL DRIVE, GEORGETOWN SUBDIVISION HERE IN COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE. SO YOU'VE HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF OUR RESIDENTS TONIGHT. I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MYSELF AS WELL AS A LOT OF OUR FAMILY THAT COULDN'T BE HERE. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE BOARD OR THE COMMITTEE DENY THE SPECIAL REQUEST DUE TO THE FACT OF THE HEALTH CONCERNS YOU'VE HEARD NOTED, AS WELL AS THE PROPERTY VALUE. WE HAVE OVER 200 RESIDENTS LIVING AT GEORGETOWN AND 64 HOMES, WITH AN ESTIMATED PROPERTY VALUE OF $36 MILLION. BETWEEN THOSE. YOU'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS TONIGHT THAT MOST LIKELY THE STATISTICS STATE AN 11% DECLINE IS ALMOST IMMEDIATELY DUE TO THE UNSEEN SITES. THE HEALTH CONCERNS, POTENTIAL POLLUTION AS WELL AS, I THINK THEY STATED, 264 TRIPS A DAY. THEY'VE STATED THE HOURS OF 6 TO 6, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WRITTEN IN STONE. I'M SURE IF BUSINESS ALLOWS, THEY WOULD LOVE TO EXTEND THAT. THERE'S PROGRESS PARK WHERE HUNDREDS OF KIDS PLAY DAILY. IT'S JUST ABOUT A MILE FROM THERE. THAT'S ADDITIONAL HEALTH CONCERNS FOR OUR FAMILY AND OUR COMMUNITY. SO WE WE ASKED THAT THE COMMITTEE TAKE THAT SPECIAL REQUEST, AND WE URGE YOU GUYS TO DENY IT. IF YOU CANNOT DENY THAT TONIGHT, WE ASK THAT YOU SEEK FURTHER TESTING. WHAT WILL IT DO TO OUR PROPERTY VALUES? WHAT POTENTIAL HEALTH RISK, NOT JUST THE REGULATION OF THE SHELBY COUNTY AIR COMMISSION, BUT LET'S BRING IN THIRD PARTY TESTING. LET'S GET EVIDENCE, PROOF THAT OUR CHILDREN AND OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE SAFE. NOT ONLY ARE WE WORRIED ABOUT THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES, OUR CHILDREN, OUR AIR QUALITY, THE TRUCK SAFETY, IF YOU'RE IN THAT AREA IN THE MORNING, YOU NOTICE A LOT OF HIGH SCHOOL CHILDREN USE THAT AS A CUT THROUGH TO COME FROM VARIOUS COMMUNITIES DOWN PROGRESS ROAD AND AROUND TO EAST SHELBY. THAT PUTS ADDITIONAL CHILDREN'S SAFETY AT RISK, NOT ONLY NEAR THE BALL FIELDS IN THE EVENING, BUT ALSO THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON TRAFFIC OF YOUNG TEENAGE DRIVERS, WHICH WOULD BE VERY NEGATIVE OUTCOME IF THEY WERE TO BE HIT BY ONE OF THOSE

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TRUCKS. PROGRESS AT THIS TIME NOW HAS JUST BEEN REDONE, BUT WE KNOW WHAT 264 LOADED TRUCKS ARE GOING TO DO TO THAT EACH DAY. I CAN ONLY IMAGINE WHAT PROGRESS WILL LOOK LIKE TWO YEARS AFTER OPERATION. THE ROADS, THE COMMUNITY, THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE AIR POLLUTION, DUST PARTICLES, ETC. SO THAT'S OUR CONCERNS FROM A COMMUNITY STANDPOINT. AND I SPEAK ON BEHALF OF SEVERAL THAT COULDN'T BE HERE TONIGHT DUE TO CHILDREN'S OBLIGATIONS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SIR. A LAST COME, THAT'S FINE. WELL I APOLOGIZE, NO PROBLEM. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS ELIAS. 649 VAUGHN DRIVE AND I'M PROFESSOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH AND HUMAN HEALTH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MEMPHIS. I AM NOT TO BRAG, BUT YOU CAN SPELL MY NAME. YOU CAN GOOGLE PROBABLY THE MOST QUALIFIED PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF TENNESSEE, IN THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI AND IN THE STATE OF ARKANSAS. A PROFESSOR THERE TO TALK ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL AND WHAT CAN DO TO US THAT FACILITY. THEY TALK ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS.

LET'S TALK ABOUT TWO SPECIFIC EXAMPLES. BENZENE. DO YOU KNOW WHAT BENZENE IS? TYPE A HUMAN CARCINOGEN, KNOWN CARCINOGEN THAT CAUSES LEUKEMIA TO KIDS. WHAT IS 100 TIMES WORSE THAN THAT TPM? TPM STANDS FOR DIESEL PARTICULATE MATTER. DIESEL PARTICULATE MATTER IS NEEDED FOR FROM TRUCKS. AND WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BEST TRUCKS WHO ARE GOING TO BE MOVING. AND DEFINITELY THE FACILITIES THERE, THE TRUCKS MOVING THROUGH THE ROADS WITH OPEN AIR. AND THESE BENZENE MOVES AROUND. THEY MENTIONED THE DISTANCE AND THE TREES. YOU KNOW WHAT DOESN'T STOP THROUGH THE TREES? THE AIR AND BENZENE IS GAS. IT'S AIR. OKAY. SO GRANTED, OF COURSE I DON'T AGREE. THIS FACILITY SHOULD NOT BE ANYWHERE CLOSE WHERE HUMAN BEINGS, FRANK WROTE WAS A MISTAKE. THIS IS A MISTAKE. THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANYWHERE CLOSE TO WHERE THESE HUMANS BEING. BY THE WAY, YOU MENTIONED INDEPENDENT STUDY. I AM WITH THE SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH. WE CAN RUN THESE THINGS AND I HOPE IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE FOR WHEN THE SHELBY COUNTY RUNS THIS ENVIRONMENTAL AND HEALTH IMPACT ASSESSMENT STUDIES. BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY LOOK HARD INTO THOSE. SO FOR THE SAKE OF OUR KIDS AND SIMILARLY, THE THE FRANK ROAD FACILITY SHOULDN'T BE THERE TO BEGIN WITH. NONE OF THIS SHOULD BE HERE.

COLLIERVILLE MOST OF US MOVED HERE FOR A PURPOSE. WE DIDN'T WANT TO MOVE TO SOUTH MEMPHIS.

OKAY, THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING WILL BE HAPPENING. SO I ASK YOU TO THINK HARD BEFORE YOU GIVE THAT ONE. IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE COMMUNITY, WHERE I LIVE AND SO ON. AND MY KIDS ARE OLDER. THEY WILL BE LEAVING SOON, BUT IT AFFECTS THE REPUTATION OF THE CITY AND WHERE YOU WANT TO BE IN THE FUTURE. AND WHAT THANK YOU, THANK YOU SIR. MISS CALBERT. GOOD EVENING, BOARD MEMBERS, I AM. AND I LIVE, I LIVE AT 649 YVONNE VAN DRIVE AND DOCTOR CABARRUS IS MY HUSBAND AND. AND SO AS YOU AS YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY IS SITTING LESS THAN 80FT DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPOSED 35 ACRE SITE. I AM HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO DENY THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE HOT MIX ASPHALT FACILITY.

THIS LOCATION IS COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE FOR HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ASPHALT PROCESSING FOR THREE SPECIFIC REASONS. FIRST, THE PROPOSAL VIOLATES THE CORE INTENT OF OUR LOCAL LAWS. UNDER COLLIERVILLE ZONING GUIDELINES, INDUSTRIAL USES MUST NOT CREATE NUISANCES, INCLUDING SMOKE OR DUST AND DUST, THAT CROSS PROPERTY. PROPERTY LINES BY ITS VERY NATURE AND OPEN AIR HOT MIX ASPHALT PLANT CANNOT CONTAIN ITS TOXIC EMISSIONS WITHIN ITS OWN BORDERS. SECOND, THE APPLICANT'S PLAN RELIES ON A BLACK VINYL COATED CHAIN LINKED

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FENCE AND A MERE 100 FOOT TREE BUFFER. TO SEPARATE THIS PLANT FROM OUR COMMUNITY, A CHAIN LINK FENCE AND A THIN STRIP OF TREES CANNOT PHYSICALLY ABSORB OR TRAP HAZARDOUS AIRBORNE CHEMICALS. SMOKE AND FINER PARTICLES MATTERS BEFORE THEY CROSS THAT PROPERTY LINE AND DRIVE IT TO DIRECTLY INTO OUR YARDS. MY CHILDREN ARE CROSS-COUNTRY RUNNERS WHO TRAIN OUTSIDE EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEY RUN WITH THE VARSITY TEAM AT COLLIERVILLE HIGH SCHOOL. THEIR LUNGS DEPEND ON CLEAN AIR TO RUN SAFELY, BUT LIVING UNDER EIGHT FEET AWAY MEANS MY FAMILY WILL BE FORCED TO BREATHE IN TOXIC FUMES AND PARTICULATES ON A DAILY BASIS. THREE FINALLY, THIS SITE IS RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE PROGRESS ROAD SOCCER COMPLEX. ON ANY GIVEN DAYS AND WEEKS, HUNDREDS OF CHILDREN AND FAMILIES ARE RUNNING AND PLAYING OUTDOORS THERE, ALLOWING A HEAVY INDUSTRIAL ASPHALT PLANT TO DUMP BLUE SMOKE AND PARTICULATE INTO OUR SHARED EARTH BASIN RIGHT NEXT TO OUR YOUTH SPORTS FIELDS IS A DIRECT VIOLATION OF OUR ZONING STANDARDS AND A THREAT TO PUBLIC HEALTH. A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS A PRIVILEGE, NOT AN AUTOMATIC RIGHT, BECAUSE THIS PROJECT CANNOT COMPLY WITH COLLIERVILLE STRICT REASONS BOUNDARIES, EVEN IN A GENERAL INDUSTRIAL AREA, I URGE THE COMMISSION TO VOTE NO AND DENIES THIS PERMIT TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MA'AM AND MR. EVAN WILSON. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. MY NAME IS EVAN WILSON AND I LIVE AT 436 BURROWS ROAD IN COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE, AND I AM JUST DOWN THE ROAD FROM THE TOWN SQUARE. MY DAUGHTER ALSO ATTENDS COLLIERVILLE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU TO DENY THIS CASE OF THE PROPOSED ASPHALT FACILITY. I WANT TO KEEP THIS SIMPLE AND FOCUS ON WHY THIS PROPOSAL DOESN'T BELONG HERE. FIRST, IT CONFLICTS WITH COLLIERVILLE OWN VISION FOR ITSELF. THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DECLINE DEFINES COLLIERVILLE AS A COMMUNITY FOR FAMILY LIVING, AND STATES THAT EVERY PLANNING DECISION AND EVERY ZONING CALL AND EVERY LAND USE PLAN SHOULD BE TIED BACK TO THAT VISION AND INDUSTRIAL ASPHALT FACILITY SITED NEAR TOWN SQUARE, COLLIERVILLE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN A COUPLE OF MILES OF BOTH THE ELEMENTARY AND HIGH SCHOOLS IS SIMPLY INCONSISTENT WITH THAT STATED VISION. THIS ISN'T A TECHNICALITY. IT'S THE STANDARD THE TOWN HAS SET FOR ITSELF. SECOND, THIS IS A TRAFFIC AND SAFETY ISSUE, NOT JUST AN ENVIRONMENTAL ONE. A HOT MIX ASPHALT PLANT MEANS A STEADY FLOW OF HEAVY TRUCKS ON ROADS THAT ARE. KIDS SCHOOL BUSSES USE THAT PARENTS USE FOR DROP OFF AND PICK UP THAT FAMILIES USE TO WALK AND BIKE THROUGH. AND THAT PART OF TOWN, THAT TRAFFIC BURDEN FALLS ON PART OF COLLIERVILLE THAT WAS NEVER BUILT FOR INDUSTRIAL TRUCK VOLUME. THIRD, THERE'S A QUALITY OF LIFE AND PROPERTY VALUE ISSUE FOR THE FAMILIES WHO LIVE NEARBY ODOR, NOISE AND INDUSTRIAL OPERATIONS RIGHT NEXT TO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE TOWN SQUARE, A ROAD, THE CHARACTER THAT MAKES PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE AND RAISE FAMILIES HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. I'D ASK THE COMMISSION TO HOLD THIS APPLICATION TO THE COMPATIBILITY AND BUFFERING STANDARDS IN THE TOWN'S OWN GENERAL INDUSTRIAL ZONING PROVISIONS, AND ASK THE APPLICANT DIRECTLY HOW THIS FACILITY IS. DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS WILL ACTUALLY MEET THOSE STANDARDS, GIVEN HOW CLOSE IT SITS TO HOMES. A SCHOOL IN OUR OWN TOWN CENTER, COLLIERVILLE HAS A CHOICE HERE ABOUT WHAT KIND OF TOWN IT WANTS TO KEEP BEING. I'M ASKING YOU TO CHOOSE THE FAMILIES WHO LIVE HERE AND TO DENY THIS APPLICATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. COMMISSIONERS, LET'S GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR SO WE CAN HAVE SOME DISCUSSION. I HAVE A MOTION. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND CASE 261907 WITH THE 18. CONDITIONS STRIKING NUMBER 16. SECOND MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. DO I HEAR DISCUSSION? OF QUESTION FOR JAMIE WITH WITH THE APPLICANT. LIKE WE WOULD LIKE TO USE ASPHALT FOR ITS DRIVEWAY IS THE TOWN. I KNOW THAT WAS A CONDITION THAT IT WOULD BE CONCRETE. I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S A COMPETING SURFACE FOR

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THE COMPANY. IS THE TOWN. IF IT'S OUT, DO WE NEED TO STIPULATE SOME KIND OF THICKNESS FOR A DRIVEWAY? OR IF THAT CONDITION STRUCK WITH THE FINAL SITE PLAN, WE WOULD ASK FOR DETAILS AND WE WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THE IT SHOWS A STRENGTH AND A THICKNESS ABLE TO HANDLE THE TRUCK TRUCK VOLUMES EXPECTED. I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT IF YOU STRIKE IT THAT YOU SAY THAT THE ASPHALT SECTION SHOULD BE EVALUATED BY THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER OR ENGINEER OF RECORD TO MAKE SURE IT'S SUFFICIENT TO HANDLE THE WEIGHT OF THE TRUCKS EXITING THE FACILITY OR ENTERING. I. YEAH, I WOULD TAKE THAT FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. RIGHT HERE. FURTHER DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONERS, HOW CLOSE IS AND YOU MAY HAVE GONE OVER THIS BEFORE, HOW CLOSE IS THE GEORGETOWN NEIGHBORHOOD? IT WAS ABOUT 850FT, ABOUT 850FT. AND SO IF WE CAN GO BACK TO THE PICTURE SHOWING THE THE FRONTAGE. HOW MUCH OF A BUFFER IS THERE? OKAY. SO RIGHT DOWN HERE ON THE LEFT IS GEORGETOWN. AND HOW WIDE IS THE THE BUFFER OF TREES GOING TO BE THERE? RIGHT THERE? IF I'M NOT, THEY WERE. JAMIE JUST CIRCLED NO ON THE THE NEIGHBORHOODS ON THE LEFT HAND. BOTTOM CORNER. RIGHT. YES. RIGHT THERE. OKAY. I'LL PULL UP A MAP. AND TRY TO HELP. HELP WITH THAT 350. NOW THAT PARTICULAR TREE IS UP. SO IT'S ABOUT A THIRD. SO AS I'M PULLING THIS UP, THOSE TREES ARE ALSO ON PROPERTY ZONED RESTRICTED INDUSTRIAL SO THAT THAT PROPERTY COULD BE DEVELOPED AT, AT SOME POINT IN TIME. YES. OUR, OUR. YEAH. NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH OUR ONE RIGHT. YES. I, I RIGHT. IT'S NOT, I DON'T, I, I DID THE SWITCH. I THOUGHT THAT'S NOT OUR ONE. BUT SO THAT STAND OF TREES IS ABOUT 360FT DEEP OR WIDE AT THAT POINT. IS, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A QUESTION FOR TOWN OR FOR THE APPLICANT, MAYBE WHO. BUT THE COMMENTS BEEN BROUGHT UP ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT, ON THE HOUSING. AND I KNOW THAT THE EXISTING FACILITY AND ITS PROXIMITY TO NEIGHBORHOODS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND, WELL, WHAT USED TO BE THE HIGH SCHOOL, IT WAS THE HIGH SCHOOL WITH ALL THE BALL FIELDS AND EVERYTHING. AND AND MY QUESTION IS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY IMPACT STUDY OR LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, ARE THOSE HOUSES, DO THEY SELL FOR LESS THAN BY SQUARE FOOT THAN THE OTHER HOUSES IN THE AREA? OR IS THERE REALLY A, YOU KNOW, CAUSATION HERE OR IS IT JUST ARE WE JUST LOOKING AT A PERCEPTION? QUESTION TO I KNOW THE NEIGHBOR I KNOW IN IN THE WOODS WHERE I LIVE, THERE HASN'T BEEN IF IF THERE'S AN EFFECT, I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS BECAUSE THE PRICES KEEP GOING UP AND THE HOUSES KEEP SELLING, I DON'T KNOW. I KNOW, AND I DO KNOW THAT IN THE WOODS AND I DON'T I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ANYTHING ELSE. WE DON'T SMELL IT OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE. I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE PREVAILING WINDS HERE COME OUT OF THE WEST, NORTH AND SOUTH. RARELY DO THEY COME OUT OF THE EAST. PREVAILING WINDS ARE SOUTHWEST. YEAH, THAT'S MY AIR TRAFFIC BACKGROUND. YOU KNOW THAT. YEAH. YES, SIR. SO I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I JUST IT'S IT'S WORTH CAN I COMMENT ON THAT? BECAUSE IT SAID WE SAID SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY WRONG. THE PREVAILING WINDS IS GOING IT WILL MOVE. THE SITUATION IS AFFECTING THE COMMUNITIES IS WHEN THE CONDITIONS ARE STAGNANT, LIKE THE WAY WE EXPERIENCED RIGHT NOW WITH HEAT AND SO ON. AND THAT WILL COVER THE WHOLE AREA. SO IT'S EASY TO SAY WHEN THE WIND BLOWS TO OR FROM, BUT THAT'S NOT ALWAYS AT LEAST LET'S BE FACTUALLY CORRECT.

SURE. I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT YOU'VE ALREADY COMMENTED AND WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW. I'M NOT BEING RUDE TO YOU. I'M JUST THAT'S JUST PROCEDURE. THANK YOU. WELL, TO THAT POINT, YEAH. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S A PERCEPTION FROM MY PART. BUT RIGHT NOW AND WHERE IT'S BEEN, HOW LONG IS THE ASPHALT PLANT BEEN, WHERE IT'S AT RIGHT NOW? YEAH, I KNOW IT PREDATES ME AND I'VE BEEN HERE ALMOST TEN YEARS.

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JAMIE. I'VE BEEN LONGER THAN THAT. WE MOVED IN 28 YEARS AGO. IT WAS THERE THEN. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT'S BEEN THERE. OKAY. BUT MY MY THOUGHT ON THAT IS. AND THAT IS SURROUNDED BY HOMES AND OTHER THINGS THAT IF AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. I HAVEN'T HEARD OF A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE UNHAPPY OR DEALING WITH IT LIKE THE LANDFILL. THAT'S RIGHT THERE. YEAH, I KNOW, SO IT'S JUST POINT WELL MADE. THAT'S JUST THAT PERCEPTION. I'M TRYING TO SETTLE WITH MYSELF. SO SCOTT, I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. YOU KNOW, THERE IS A CONDITION ON THIS APPROVAL THAT THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE SHELBY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. RIGHT.

AND THAT'S PROBABLY MORE IN THEIR PURVIEW THAN OURS OF WHETHER THIS FACILITY SHOULD BE ALLOWED. AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD FACTOR IN. IS THERE GOING TO GET THAT APPROVAL FIRST BEFORE THEY EVER PUT THIS FACILITY UP? I ASSUME THAT YOU I THINK SHE SAID IT SAYS THAT THEY HAVE TO GET THE. DIDN'T YOU SAY PERMIT? THEY HAVE TO. THAT WOULD COME AFTER IT WAS BUILT, THOUGH. YEAH. JOHN MCCARTY ALSO SAID THAT. SO THEY HAVE TO. THE APPLICATION EVEN DID A FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL FOR THAT. OH, NO.

WITHOUT A PERMIT, THE. THE AIR QUALITY PERMIT COMES AFTER THE AFTER IT'S FUNCTIONING WELL, BUT IF IT WAS THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION, RIGHT. SO IT SAYS. SO I HEARD IF THEY WERE TO FAIL, THOUGH, THE FACILITY HAS THE RISK OF BEING SHUT DOWN. SO I, I ASSUME THAT YOU OBTAINED THESE PERMITS FROM THE SHELBY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT ALREADY, AND THAT THERE ARE MITIGATION THINGS THAT YOU DO AS FAR AS SCRUBBING OR WHATEVER THAT HAS TO BE OBTAINED IN ORDER TO MEET THE REGULATIONS OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. ONCE WE GET THE ZONING APPROVED, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. ONCE WE GO THROUGH THE FINAL SITE PLAN PROCESS, IT'LL GO THROUGH CONCURRENT WITH THE SHELBY COUNTY HEALTH PERMIT PROCESS. SO THEY PERMIT THE SITE, YOU BUILD THE SITE, THEN YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU CAN OPERATE THE SITE WITHIN THE THE AIR QUALITY PERMIT. I HAVE A QUESTION AS WELL AS I KNOW YOU TALKED ABOUT USING NEW EQUIPMENT, HAVING NEW EQUIPMENT. YES. CAN YOU TELL US WHAT SORTS OF REMEDIATION MEASURES THE NEW EQUIPMENT MAY HAVE, OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY THAN POSSIBLY WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE NOW? WELL, CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? WILL IS THEIR THEIR PLAN OPERATION SPECIALIST TRY WE DON'T KNOW 100%. IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME WILL HUNT.

FOR THE RECORD, SAY ADDRESS TO 2394 CEDARDALE DRIVE, GERMANTOWN, TENNESSEE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO EXACT EQUIPMENT WE'RE PUTTING THERE, BUT IT'S 20 YEARS NEWER THAN WHAT WE'RE RUNNING RIGHT NOW. AT A MINIMUM, I'LL BE GLAD TO FIND THE SPECIFICS ONCE WE GET THEM AND PRESENT THEM. AND IT'S YOU'RE PLANNING ON RUNNING THE EXACT SAME OPERATION TYPE OPERATION, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER.

DISCUSSION A COUPLE YES, SIR. SIR, I'M ASSUMING THE EXISTING CRITERIA HERE THAT'S LISTED BY THE DEVELOPERS ARE YOUR MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS. HAVE YOU LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTS TO CONSIDER ADDING ANYTHING, MAYBE TO COMPROMISE HERE, ADDING ANY ADDITIONAL CRITERIA INTO YOUR PLAN THAT WOULD HELP BRING THIS PLAN CLOSER TO AN AGREEMENT? AND ALL OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH STANDARD CONSTRUCTION, THEY HAVE STATED THAT THEY WANT TO MEET THE UTMOST QUALITY, WHETHER IT'S FROM A PLANNING ASPECT. AS FAR AS SCREENING THE SITES, THE TOWN OF CARNIVAL, AS WELL AS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERMITS AND ANY ISSUES. ALL OF THE THE HUNT FAMILY THAT I'VE WORKED WITH, I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS FOR 20 SOMETHING YEARS NOW, AND I'VE WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH THEM, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER, LIKE ROBERTS AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMPANIES.

BUT THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THE THE HUNT FAMILY HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB, AND I THINK THAT THEY'VE WORKED WELL. I ACTUALLY TALKED TO JAMES WHELAN ABOUT THIS PROJECT WHEN WE STARTED ON IT, AND JAMES MENTIONED TO ME THAT HE KNEW THIS WAS COMING AND THAT HE ACTUALLY HAD NO DOUBTS AS WELL OF BEING ABLE TO OPERATE WITH THE HUNT FAMILY RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF CARYVILLE ON FRANK ROAD. OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU'VE BEEN IN CARLINVILLE FOR A LONG TIME, OF ALL THE DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT WE'VE KNOWN FROM THE LANDFILL AND THE INCINERATOR AND ALL THE DIFFERENT ISSUES, AND THAT THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE WHATEVER THEY CAN TO PROVIDE THE BEST, AND I THINK IT WAS EVEN BROUGHT UP EARLIER THAT THERE'S NO KNOWN ISSUES FROM THE ASPHALT PLANT.

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CHAIRMAN COTTON MENTIONED THAT. I GUESS YOU MOVED OVER THERE IN THE, YOU KNOW, EARLY 2000 TO THE WOODS OR LATE 90S, 98, I THINK, TALKING TO WILL THAT PLANT'S BEEN THERE SINCE ABOUT 1975. IT'S OBVIOUSLY BEFORE MY TIME, I CAN TELL YOU ALL THAT. I DID GO TO WHAT IS NOW. I WAS THE THE GRADUATING CLASS WHEN IT WAS THE HIGH SCHOOL. WE WERE THE ONE YEAR THAT NEVER LEFT THAT BUILDING, FOURTH GRADE TO 12TH GRADE. AND I DO REMEMBER SEEING THE PLANT ALL THE TIME.

AND APPARENTLY IT HAD AN EFFECT ON ME, BUT Y'ALL MIGHT THINK OTHERWISE. BUT REALLY, THE POINT IS, IS THAT REALLY ALL OF THE SUBDIVISIONS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ASPHALT PLANT WERE DEVELOPED AND BUILT OUT AFTER THAT PLANT WAS OPERATIONAL. I DID NOT KNOW THIS PRIOR TO BEING THERE. THEY WERE OVER A LIFETIME. FITNESS IS IS WHERE THEY WERE UP UNTIL THE 70S UNTIL THEY MOVED TO FRANK ROAD. I KNEW THAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION. YES, MA'AM. ME TOO. FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT WITH REGARD TO THE THE GEORGETOWN NEIGHBORHOOD AND BEING ON MOUNT PLEASANT RIGHT THERE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO MITIGATE THE CONCERNS ABOUT TRUCKS TRAVELING THAT THAT ROAD? BECAUSE TO ME, IT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S ABOUT THE I MEAN, THAT'S THE ONLY ROAD REALLY THAT'S THAT'S GOES BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT THAT COULD POSSIBLY AFFECT THE CHILDREN AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE ARE NOT REALLY EXPECTING A LOT OF TRAFFIC FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. WE EXPECT THERE TO BE LESS THAN 400 VEHICLES PER DAY. I THINK FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOSTLY BUSY DURING THE MID-MORNING HOURS AND THEN THEY'LL TAPER OFF. SO TYPICALLY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE COMING HOME, I THINK THEY'RE TAPERING OFF THEIR OPERATION. WE CAN LOOK AT THAT INTERSECTION OF MOUNT PLEASANT AND PROGRESS. AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP, I'LL BE GLAD TO DO IT. IS THERE IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF A NO TRUCK REQUIREMENT OR PROHIBITION ON ON MOUNT PLEASANT AS WELL? YES, I CAN DEFINITELY LOOK AT THAT. I'LL STUDY IT AND KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE DID FOR SOME OTHER ROADWAYS. WE CAN JUST ALLOW LOCAL DELIVERIES AND RESTRICT TRUCK TRAFFIC. I KNOW WE SAID THAT WE COULD ADD THAT AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. I, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN ADD THAT AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL OR NOT, BUT I THINK WHAT HEATHER IS SAYING MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO NOT SEE TRUCKS GOING DOWN IN FRONT OF THE ENTRANCE INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO USE THAT ANYWAY, AS IT LOOKS LIKE. PROGRESS ROADS PROBABLY GOING TO GO OUT TO POPLAR AVENUE AND POPLAR AVENUE, EVEN OUT TO 269. AND. BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT. THING IF WE COULD MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO TRUCKS ACCESS ON MOUNT PLEASANT ROAD. I DEFINITELY HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND I THINK I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. IT SOUNDS LIKE. WOULD YOU ALL BE WILLING TO LET US STUDY THAT IF IT GOES FORWARD? WE'LL PUT THAT IN THE BMA REPORT THAT WE'RE STUDYING, THAT THERE MAY BE AN ENGINEERING REASON OR SOME LAND USE REASON WHY WE COULDN'T DO IT, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY STUDY THAT AND, AND SEE SEE IF WE CAN DO THAT. IT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION TO NOT HAVE TRUCKS GO THROUGH THAT SEGMENT OF MOUNT PLEASANT. NOW, THE DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS. HEARING NONE. THANK YOU ALL. ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

WHEN DO WE NEED TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO ADD MOUNT PLEASANT BEFORE WE VOTE FOR. NO, NO. I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO NOTE IT IN THE MEETING MINUTES AND CARRY IT FORWARD.

YEAH. THEY'VE GOT TO DO ALL THAT. OKAY. ARE Y'ALL A QUESTION. ARE YOU STILL STRIKING NUMBER 16. WISH WE WERE AMENDING. YES. YES. WITH THE 16 STRUCK. AND IT WAS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT'S BEEN DONE. ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. DO WE KNOW WHAT THE AMENDMENT IS? THE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT IS THAT THEY WOULD PROVIDE DETAILS WITH THE FINAL SITE PLAN THAT WOULD SHOW THAT AMENDMENT. WE HAD A WE HAD AN ACCEPTANCE OF HIS AMENDMENT HERE. AND SO THAT'S. IT HAS TO DO WITH THE THE QUALITY OF THE DRIVE THAT'S GOING TO GO IN, IN ASPHALT. RIGHT. AND THEY'VE GOT TO LOOK AT IT. AND WHEN THE ENGINEERING HAS TO APPROVE, THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT IT. AND MISS FLETCHER. YES. MR. GIBBON YES, MR. DUBOSE, DOCTOR GREEN YES. MR. BATES. YES. MR. SLED YES. MR. ROZANSKI YES. MR. STAMPS, JUST A COUPLE OF

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COMMENTS JUST BEFORE. I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING TO TALK AND SENSITIVITY TO THEIR.

I SEE THAT THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR THAT CAN BE OUT THERE. I'M GLAD TO SEE THE CONDITION NUMBER 18 FOR THE FINAL SITE PLAN FOR THE SHELBY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT AIR QUALITY PERMIT. I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THAT'S IN THERE. I KNOW THAT STANDARD EQUIPMENT HAS BEEN OR A GOOD NEIGHBOR FOR WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY LOCATED, AND I STRUGGLE BECAUSE I'M IN REAL ESTATE AND I SEE I SELL THE HOMES ALL AROUND. I WATCHED THIS GEORGETOWN DEVELOPMENT BE DEVELOPED AND I WAS, I, I, THERE WAS A FEAR THAT THIS WAS GOING TO COME. AND BECAUSE OF WHERE IT IS ON PROGRESS ROAD IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA THAT THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR, WHAT, SOME 20 SOME ODD YEARS. AND, AND THIS WAS A THIS WAS WHAT THEY WERE MOVING TOWARDS, I DON'T THINK I THINK THEY NEEDED THE SPACE IS WHERE THEY ALWAYS NEEDED THE SPACE. FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THE MOVE IS, IS, IS, IS WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. BUT IF ANYTHING ELSE CAN BE, BECAUSE THIS HAS GOT TO GO THROUGH ANOTHER LAYER THROUGH THE BOARD OF MAYOR AND ALDERMEN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE US, BE WILLING TO LISTEN TO IT. BUT AS FAR AS WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY YES. MR. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT, JAMIE,

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WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE TO COME BEFORE US? WE HAVE TWO BRIEFINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU, ONE ON THE. AND I'D LIKE TO SAY MAYBE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY UPDATES UNTIL TOWARDS THE END, ONE ON THE SHOT CLOCK LAW. AND THEN MICHAEL CLARK WOULD ALSO LIKE TO BRIEF BRIEF YOU ALL ON THE STATUS OF THE 2050 PLAN AND OUR DEVELOPMENT THERE. SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SWITCH TO THE PODIUM HERE.

SO I THOUGHT I'D TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND IT MIGHT TAKE A WHILE TO, TO WORK THROUGH SOME OF THIS. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOU SOMETIME IN OCTOBER, SOME CHANGES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS TO TRY TO RESPOND TO THIS NEW STATE LAW. PUBLIC CHAPTER 1044 AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THAT IS, WE CALL IT THE SHOT CLOCK LAW. AND I'LL DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, BUT HAVE HAVE SEVERAL THINGS I WANT TO TOUCH ON TO HELP PREPARE YOU FOR SEEING THE ACTUAL EDITS IN OCTOBER. AND AT THE VERY END OF THE PRESENTATION, I'LL ASK YOU ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANT TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IN OCTOBER, MAYBE OCTOBER 8TH, OR IF YOU WANT TO ADD THIS TO THE END OF YOUR REGULAR AGENDA ON OCTOBER 1ST. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE INTENT BEHIND THE LAW. THE LEGISLATURE WAS TRYING TO ENSURE THE DEVELOPMENTS ARE EITHER ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED AND BY BY TIMES SPECIFIC, OR THAT THEY'RE FORWARDED TO A PUBLIC BODY. I THINK THEY SAW SOME COMMUNITIES.

FOR US, IT WAS TAKING A LONG TIME TO GET THROUGH, AND SOMETIMES CARLINVILLE'S PROCESS CAN TAKE A WHILE TO GET THROUGH. SO I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE BENEFITS TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, TO THIS LAW. THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET AT LEAST BEFORE YOU A LOT, A LOT QUICKER. SOME APPLICANTS.

APPLICANTS WILL THAN THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY. OR MAYBE AN ADMINISTRATIVE CASE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET SOME RESOLUTION A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN THEY HAVE PREVIOUSLY. ALSO RELATED TO THE LAW, THE THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT LETTERS OF CREDIT THAT WE MIGHT HAVE FOR PUBLIC OR PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS ARE RELEASED IN A TIMELY FASHION, PARTICULARLY WITHIN IF THEY HAVE A THIRD PARTY ENGINEER, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET BEFORE A DECISION MAKING BODY TO GET GET RELEASE, PARTICULARLY IF AN ENGINEER SAYS THAT THAT ROAD HAS BEEN BUILT PROPERLY, THEY WANT TO RELEASE WITHIN A TIMELY MANNER. THEY WANT TO HAVE AN APPEALS PROCESS. IF A STAFF MEMBER DOESN'T BELIEVE SOMETHING WAS MEETS MEETS CODE, THEN THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN APPEALS PROCESS. AND SO THIS LAW GIVES THEM THAT AND THEY WANT TO HAVE RELATED INSPECTIONS PERFORMED PROMPTLY. SO IF THEY MAKE A REQUEST, THERE'S A DEADLINE OF 30 DAYS TO GET THOSE THOSE REQUIRED, GET THAT INSPECTION DONE. SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THIS MIGHT IMPACT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE MAYOR AND BOARD, MAYBE MAYBE SOME OF OUR OTHER BOARDS TOO. I THINK THERE WILL BE COMPRESSED TIMELINES WITH THIS NEW WITH THIS NEW LAW. IT HAS VERY SPECIFIC RIGID WINDOWS FOR FOR RESPONSE. AND THAT WILL HELP. AND IT EVEN HELPS LIMIT DEBATE OR THE AMOUNT OF COMMENTS THAT WE MIGHT MAKE ON A, ON A PRIVATE SECTOR APPLICATION TO, TO TWO ROUNDS OF COMMENTS. I THINK FOR RESPONSIVE APPLICANTS AND THOSE REQUESTS THAT ARE COMPLIANT, THEY'RE GOING TO GET A GUARANTEED RESPONSE AND IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL. AND SO I DO THINK THAT THAT WILL HELP PEOPLE MOVE FASTER THROUGH THE PROCESS. I THINK THERE'S A RISK

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THERE'S A REAL RISK OF AUTOMATIC APPROVAL WITH THE SHOT CLOCK LAW. SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU SEVERAL THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO TRY TO MAKE SURE TO MITIGATE THAT RISK. BUT ESSENTIALLY, IF IF WE DON'T ACT WITHIN THESE TIME FRAMES, PROJECTS GET APPROVED AND THEY GET APPROVED BASED ON THE VERSION OF THE PLAN THAT CAME THROUGH THE DOOR.

AND SINCE JOHN MENTIONED JAMES LOWELL AND JAMES LEWELLEN HAD A SAYING THAT SAID, IF COLLIERVILLE WAS BUILT BASED ON THE FIRST VERSION OF THE PLAN THAT CAME IN THE DOOR, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN RECOGNIZE THE PLACE. AND SO AS YOU DRIVE AROUND, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES TO DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS FOR ARCHITECTURE OR SITE LAYOUT OR LANDSCAPING, OR BUFFER BUFFERING, TRAFFIC SAFETY. FROM THE DAY IT COMES IN, TO THE DAY IT GETS APPROVED TO MAKE THIS GREAT, GREAT PLACE THAT WE, WE LIVE IN AND LOVE. SO THERE'S A RISK THAT IF SOMEBODY DROPS OFF A SET OF PLANS AND STAFF SITS ON IT, THAT IT GETS APPROVED AUTOMATICALLY, AND WE HAVE TO LIVE WITH THOSE WITH THAT VERSION OF THE PLAN, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T MEET OUR STANDARDS. THAT'S A REALLY BAD DAY IN THE TOWN OF COLLIERVILLE. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN IF WE'RE NOT APPROVING PLANS BY DEFAULT, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT DOESN'T MEET TOWN STANDARDS. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO GO THROUGH A LOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN. BUT THAT IS THE CONSEQUENCE. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO TO AVOID. I DO THINK THERE WILL BE PREMATURE CASES THAT CLOG YOUR AGENDA FROM TIME TO TIME, AND I THINK MORE DENIALS WILL HAPPEN. TYPICALLY, WE DON'T DENY PROJECTS. YOU MIGHT CONDITIONALLY APPROVE THEM, OR WE WORK WITH APPLICANTS TO GET THE PLANS TO A POINT WHERE YOU CAN APPROVE THEM. BUT THERE PROBABLY WILL BE SOME SOME CASES THAT WILL COME WHERE WE EITHER AGREE TO DISAGREE WITH THE APPLICANT OR THE PLANS, FOR WHATEVER REASON, ARE NOT IN A IN A WAY THAT MEETS TOWN CODE MEETS OUR TOWN STANDARDS. AND WE'LL WE'LL HAVE TO BRING THAT BEFORE YOU FOR A RESOLUTION SO IT DOESN'T GET APPROVED BY DEFAULT. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WAYS TO MAKE THAT LESS LABOR INTENSIVE ON STAFF. YOU MIGHT SEE AN ABBREVIATED STAFF REPORT, A RECOMMENDATION. MAYBE IT DOESN'T NEED TO GET APPROVED, BUT IT MIGHT NOT. IT MAY THERE MAY BE A RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL. AND THE PLANS WILL ALREADY HAVE THE PLAN SETS. SO IT'LL CREATE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK LOAD FOR Y'ALL TO SEE THOSE ON AN AGENDA AND HAVE TO FACE THAT, CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD FOR US TO CREATE A STAFF REPORT AT A TIME THAT WE PROBABLY WEREN'T READY TO DO THAT. SO THAT THAT WILL BE A SIDE EFFECT, AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER SIDE EFFECTS TO PARTICULARLY WITH INSPECTIONS, WE HAVE TO DESIGNATE A BOARD OR A COMMISSION HEARING. THE APPEALS FOR INSPECTIONS, LET'S SAY THIS DRIVEWAY THAT YOU ALL JUST TALKED ABOUT ON THAT PREVIOUS SITE, IF THAT'S INSPECTED AND WE FIND IT FAILS AND THEY DISAGREE AND SAY, OH, IT WAS DONE. IT WAS DONE RIGHT. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A PUBLIC BOARD FOR THAT TO GO THROUGH. SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS, BUT IT MIGHT END UP BEING THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR MAYOR AND BOARD AND THE BOARD OF ZONING APPEALS.

THEY TRADITIONALLY HEAR APPEALS OF STAFF DECISIONS. SO THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD FIT FOR THEM, BUT WE THINK THAT'LL BE PRETTY RARE. OUR ENGINEERING STANDARDS ARE PRETTY CLEAR, AND IT'S VERY, VERY RARE THAT THERE'S DISAGREEMENT ON THE STANDARDS. AND THE STANDARDS ARE REALLY CLEAR. SO IT'S EITHER FOUR INCHES OF ASPHALT OR IT'S NOT. SO IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY CLEAR.

BUT AND WE THINK THAT WOULD BE RARE, BUT WE DO THINK YOU'LL SEE MORE PREMATURE CASES AND, AND DENIAL WILL HAPPEN A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN USED TO. SO THE LOCAL APPLICABILITY I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT DOESN'T APPLY, WHAT THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO. IT DOESN'T APPLY TO BUILDING PERMITS, FIRE PERMITS, MECHANICAL, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE'S A SPECIAL PART OF THE STATE LAW THAT APPLIES TO THOSE PERMITS, AND THEY'RE ALREADY SHORTER PERIODS THAN WHAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ON THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION SIDE DOESN'T APPLY TO TOWN PROJECTS OR SCHOOL PROJECTS, THINGS LIKE THAT. AND IT DOESN'T APPLY TO LEGISLATIVE PROCESSES. SO THAT'S PRETTY CLEARLY ANNEXATIONS, REZONINGS ZONING ORDINANCE TEXT AMENDMENTS, BUT IT WOULD APPLY TO MORE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES LIKE SITE PLANS AND SUBDIVISIONS, SUBDIVISION INFRASTRUCTURE, CONSTRUCTION PLANS, DRIVEWAY PERMITS. AND I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON. THERE ARE A FEW THAT LEGAL'S TRYING TO HELP US FIGURE OUT WHICH BUCKET THAT THAT FALLS INTO. PLAN DEVELOPMENTS. IN SOME WAYS IT'S LEGISLATIVE, BUT IN SOME WAYS IT FEELS MORE LIKE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PLAN BECAUSE THERE'S A PLAN WITH IT. SO WE'RE TRYING TO NAVIGATE THAT. AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH A GROUP CALLED THE CENTER FOR LOCAL PLANNING. AND THAT'S CONNECTED TO THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE. THEY PUT OUT A COUPLE OF BEST PRACTICE MANUALS ON THIS PARTICULAR LAW, AND THEY'VE HELD WEBINARS AND WERE ALL THE PLANNERS ACROSS THE STATE ARE TRYING TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT AND TRY TO TRYING TO ANSWER, TRYING TO GET SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED. BUT

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SOME OF THESE ARE OPEN ENDED AND THEY THEY'VE SAID, WORK WITH YOUR LEGAL FOLKS. SO WE'RE WORKING REALLY CLOSELY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS WOULD APPLY TO THINGS LIKE HISTORIC COMMISSION REQUESTS OR, OR MAYBE VARIANCES. SO WORKING THROUGH THAT, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SITE PLANS, DEFINITELY SUBDIVISIONS, THINGS THAT YOU'LL SEE A LOT. SO HERE IS A FLOW CHART OF WHAT, WHAT COULD HAPPEN OR WHAT WOULD HAPPEN AFTER JANUARY 1ST WHEN THIS GOES INTO EFFECT. WE ESSENTIALLY HAVE AN APPLICATION IS DROPPED OFF AT TOWN HALL OR SUBMITTED ONLINE. THERE'S A STAFF REVIEW PHASE, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE A DECISION PHASE WHEN IT COMES TO THE APPLICATION. IT'S BASED ON OUR TALKING OR DISCUSSIONS WITH THE CENTER FOR LOCAL PLANNING. THEY BELIEVE THAT THE LAW SUPPORTS HAVING DEADLINES STILL, SO THAT'S GOOD. WE WERE WORRIED THAT ANY DAY WAS DEADLINE DAY AND THEN WE WOULD BE DEALING WITH MULTIPLE OVERLAPPING SHOT CLOCKS, WHICH I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE. MOST OF OUR DEADLINES, I THINK, CAN FOLD WITHIN THE OVERALL SHOT CLOCK LAW. IT'S BASED ON BUSINESS DAYS. IT'S NOT IT'S NOT BASED ON CALENDAR DAYS. SO THAT STRETCHES OUT WHERE 30 DAYS MIGHT TURN INTO MAYBE 45 CALENDAR DAYS WHEN YOU FACTOR IN WEEKENDS AND HOLIDAYS SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE. I DO BELIEVE OUR EXISTING PROCESSES WILL FIT WITHIN AT LEAST TO GET SOMEBODY THE FIRST ANSWER, OR MAYBE GET THEM ON A PUBLIC ROUND OR PUBLIC MEETINGS, OR AT LEAST GET THROUGH THAT, THAT TWO STEP PROCESS. THE LAW DOES SAY WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ISSUE MORE THAN TWO SETS OF COMMENTS, SO THAT THAT WILL BE A CONSTRAINT THAT WE'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW. THERE WILL BE A SUFFICIENCY REVIEW PERIOD WHERE WE MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE. THE LAW SAYS WE HAVE 30 DAYS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO A LOT BETTER THAN THAT. WE ALREADY HAVE ABOUT 2 OR 3 DAYS WHERE WE TRY TO DO A SUFFICIENCY REVIEW TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE WHAT WE HAVE, AND WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR Y'ALL TO ACTUALLY HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING.

AND SO THAT THAT WILL STAY. WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE TO KEEP IT REALLY TIGHT LOCALLY. WE WON'T TAKE A FULL 30 DAYS TO DO THAT, BUT THE CLOCK DOESN'T REALLY START WITH THE WHOLE SHOT CLOCK UNLESS IT'S COMPLETE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S GOOD NEWS. AND SO IF IT'S INCOMPLETE, EVERYTHING STOPS. THEY TURN IN REVISED PLANS AND DOCUMENTATION. AND AT THE MOMENT THAT IT BECOMES COMPLETE, THAT'S WHEN THAT'S WHEN THE CLOCK STARTS. SO WE'LL WE'LL KEEP TRACK OF THAT. THERE'S A STAFF REVIEW THAT GOES ON. WE'RE GUARANTEED THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE COMMENTS WITHIN 30 BUSINESS DAYS TO, TO THE APPLICANT. AND WE WILL HIT THAT DATE. AND AGAIN, THAT FALLS WITHIN OUR EXISTING PROCESS. WE'RE ALREADY WE'RE ALREADY DOING BETTER THAN THAT. THAT RIGHT NOW. ON A, ON A CALENDAR DAY BASIS, THERE'S A MAXIMUM OF TWO DAYS REVIEWS, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, AND THERE'S AN OVERALL 60 DAY CLOCK THAT'S GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME. SO THERE'S A 30 DAY CLOCK TO PROVIDE THE. THE FIRST SET OF SUBSTANTIVE COMMENTS. AND THEN THERE'S A 60 DAY CLOCK THAT ALSO RUNS CONCURRENTLY. THE WHOLE PROCESS. WE HAVE TO GET DOWN TO THE BOTTOM. THE DECISION WITHIN THAT 60 DAY PROCESS. SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME TIME WHERE USING THE TENNIS BALL ANALOGY THAT I USE A LOT, WE'RE GOING TO HIT THE BALL BACK INTO THEIR COURT. WE'RE GOING TO BURN SOME TIME OUT OF THAT 60 DAYS WHILE THE APPLICANT HAS IT. SO THERE MAY COME A TIME WHERE WE HAVE TO SEND SOMETHING TO YOU BECAUSE WE'RE BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS HOLDING THE PLANS AND HASN'T TURNED IN REVISIONS, AND WE EITHER NEED TO TURN IT DOWN AS ONE OPTION. AND IF WE TURN IT DOWN, WE OWE THE APPLICANT A 50% OF THE FEE, THE REVIEW FEE, WHICH IS PUNITIVE TO CITIES. AND IT'S CONFUSING THAT THAT WOULD MAKE IT INTO THE LAW. BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE LAW. BUT IF WE IF WE TURN IT DOWN, WE OWE THEM A REFUND OF 50% OF THE FEES. AND OR WE COULD CONDITIONALLY APPROVE IT. THE TRICK THERE IS STAFF IS ALWAYS EMPOWERED TO APPROVE A LOT OF THESE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

WE DON'T UNDER STATE LAW, WE CAN'T APPROVE A PRELIMINARY PLAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S YOUR POWER. SO WE CAN'T DO THAT. BUT CERTAIN CERTAIN APPLICATION TYPES, LIKE A DRIVEWAY PERMIT OR A SIGN PERMIT OR CERTAIN SITE PLANS, WE CAN APPROVE ADMINISTRATIVELY. SO THAT'S AN OPTION. OR THE THIRD OPTION, WHICH IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN KIND OF GRACIOUSLY FOR CITIES. IT COULD BE A LOT WORSE. IT SAYS ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS PUT IT ON A PUBLIC MEETING AGENDA. COULD BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. IT COULD BE THE MAYOR AND BOARD. SO THOSE ARE ONE OF OUR THREE OPTIONS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN IN THAT 60 DAY WINDOW. SO I DO THINK SOME CASES WILL GO AHEAD AND CONDITIONALLY APPROVED SOME ADMINISTRATIVE CASES. IT'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY MOVE ALONG PRETTY FAST. I DO THINK THAT WE'LL BE PUTTING SOME CASES ON YOUR AGENDA THAT AREN'T AREN'T READY TO GO QUITE YET. SCOTT, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU HAVE A QUESTION. OH, MINE. MINE.

JUST MORE OF THE. SO YOU SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. HOW LONG IS IT BEFORE YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE APPLICATION IS COMPLETE OR NOT? 30 DAYS. BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO IT IN LIKE

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THREE DAYS. OKAY. JUST TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T BURN TOO MUCH CLOCK. IF IF IT WAS SUFFICIENT THE DAY BEFORE THE FIRST DAY AND WE DON'T KNOW IT FOR 30 DAYS, THAT'S A PROBLEM. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW REALLY EARLY ON. YEAH. I THINK IT'S NICE THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND A LITTLE BIT OF A SHOTGUN AT US TO DO THIS. BUT YEAH, YOU KNOW, TRY TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, CAN BE REALLY CUMBERSOME TRYING TO GET SOMETHING DONE, ESPECIALLY IN ENVIRONMENTS IN BUSINESS WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO STRIKE WHILE THE IRON'S HOT NOT A YEAR FROM THEN, RIGHT? SO I'M JUST NOT SURE THE METHODOLOGY IS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE. YEAH. AND LIKE SO MANY LAWS, SOMETIMES THEY'LL ADOPT A LAW AND THEN THEY MAY TWEAK IT LATER. SO THIS, THIS COULD CHANGE AS WE SEE CITIES IMPLEMENT IT. AND WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT IT IN A WAY THAT IS TRUE TO THE INTENT OF THE LAW, AND NOT TRYING TO LEAN TOO HEAVILY INTO MAYBE MUNICIPAL RIGHTS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO WE DON'T WANT TO BLOW IT FOR FOR EVERYBODY ELSE AND HAVE THE LEGISLATURE COME DOWN. AND, AND SO WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY, VERY DILIGENT TO STICK WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE LAW AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE CENTER FOR LOCAL PLANNING. DO YOU ENVISION MORE, MORE FREQUENT PLANNING COMMISSION OR MEETINGS BECAUSE OF THE DEADLINES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? I MEAN, MAYBE EVERY TWO WEEKS I COULD SEE IF WE START FILLING UP YOUR AGENDA, LIKE YOUR NEXT AGENDA IS GOING TO BE LARGE, JUST NATURALLY THAT THINGS PEOPLE ARE THOMPSON IS DOING A BUNCH OF THINGS. SO YOU'LL HAVE 8 OR 9 ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA. NOW, A BUNCH OF THEM ARE RELATED, BUT I DO THINK IF YOU START HAVING MANY, MANY ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA AND YOU'RE HERE TO 830 OR 9:00, YOU MIGHT BE WONDERING, WELL, DO WE NEED TO DO THIS TWICE A MONTH OR THERE, THERE? OR IS THERE A DIFFERENT WAY TO HANDLE THIS? SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT COMES OUT OF THIS. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO WATCH. WE MIGHT EVEN JUST PUT DENIALS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. AND YOU MIGHT NOT HAVE TO SPEND A WHOLE LOT OF TIME ABOUT IT, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO NAVIGATE THAT TO SEE HOW, HOW IT IMPACTS YOU ALL. ONE OF THE ASSUMPTIONS, I THINK, WAS NEAT, THAT CAME OUT OF THE CENTER FOR LOCAL PLANNING IS THAT THEY DO SAY THAT THE LAW MIGHT ALLOW FOR DEVELOPERS TO PAUSE A PROJECT, AND I'LL USE JASON KREIS FOR AN EXAMPLE. WE HAVE SEVERAL CASES THAT HE SUBMITTED. IT'S GONE THROUGH A DESIGN REVIEW. GOOD PROJECTS.

THEY'RE READY TO GO. WE'RE READY FOR THEM TO GO. BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY'RE NOT READY TO GO ON THEIR SIDE. IT COULD BE FINANCING, IT COULD BE THEY WORKING WITH A TENANT. THEY MAY NEED TO TWEAK IT. I COULD SEE THEM WANTING TO PAUSE. AND SO WE MIGHT WORK WITH LEGAL TO COME UP WITH SOME RECORD WHERE THE DEVELOPER CAN PAUSE AND SAY, I DON'T WANT TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION YET, AND I WANT TO PAUSE THE PAUSE THE SHOT CLOCK, AND THAT THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY NEED TO DO ON THE PRIVATE SIDE. BUT AT ANY MOMENT, THEY COULD TAKE THAT AWAY AND SAY, I'M READY TO GO BACK AND I'M READY TO START THE SHOT CLOCK AGAIN. SO IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OF BOOKKEEPING ON OUR PART TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL THAT. BUT I DO THINK THAT THAT WILL BE A BIG PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS LOCALLY.

NOT NOT EVERYBODY'S READY TO GO AT IT ALL THE TIME. AS FAST AS THE LAW MIGHT ALLOW. ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT JOHN'S THINKING ABOUT ALL THIS STUFF TOO, THAT SOME AT SOME POINT I KNOW HE SUBMITS HERE QUITE, QUITE A LOT. SO THIS IS A SUMMARY OF ALL THE DATES THAT I'VE BEEN BEEN TALKING ABOUT. AND SO I IMAGINE WHEN WE PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR THE CODE, THERE MIGHT EVEN BE SOME TABLES IN THE CODE. WE'LL SPECIFICALLY AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE. ONE OF THE IDEAS IS TO MAYBE HAVE A SPECIAL SPOT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, LIKE WE DID WITH THE VESTING LAW THAT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES THE SHOT CLOCKS AND ALL THE ALL THE PARTS OF THE CODE WOULD JUST POINT TO THIS SECTION, INCLUDING THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, SO THAT WE'RE ONLY WRITING THIS ONCE AND NOT HAVING TO REPEAT IT OVER AND OVER. THERE ARE A FEW BEST PRACTICES THAT I'LL QUICKLY RUN THROUGH, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MIKE WANTS TO TELL YOU MORE ABOUT THE 2050 PLAN. SO ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATOR ESSENTIALLY HAVE EVERYTHING GO THROUGH ONE PERSON. SO WE'RE GOING TO DESIGNATE MAYBE THE ASSISTANT TOWN PLANNER QUITE A I THINK THERE SHE IS OVER THERE. AS AS THE DEVELOPMENT ADMINISTRATOR OVER OVER PLANNING. SO SHE HAS PLANNERS AND TAX PLANNING TEXTS THAT REPORT TO HER. AND SO SHE, SHE WOULD KEEP KEEP TRACK OF ALL THIS STUFF AND WE WOULD HELP HER, HELP HER DO THAT. THERE'S AN ENGINEERING COORDINATOR ALREADY ON STAFF THAT HANDLES A LOT OF THE INSPECTIONS. SO IT MAKES SENSE FOR HER TO NATURALLY HAVE THAT ROLE OR WHOEVER'S IN THAT THAT POSITION. SO ESSENTIALLY HAVING POINTS OF CONTACT FOR INSPECTIONS, POINTS OF CONTACT FOR SUBMITTING DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. SO WE DO THINK THAT THAT WILL HELP STREAMLINE QUITE, QUITE A BIT. WE DO HAVE SOME SOFTWARE TO THAT WE'RE

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GOING TO USE TO TRY TO HELP RECONFIGURE SOME EXISTING SOFTWARE TO HELP KEEP TRACK OF ALL THIS. THEY RECOMMEND HAVING PRE SUBMITTAL MEETINGS, WHICH WE CALL LOCALLY PRE PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCES. AND THOSE ARE REQUIRED FOR A LOT OF APPLICATION TYPES. BUT WE DO THINK WITH THE IMPORTANCE OF THE LAW AND NOT ACCEPTING SOMETHING THAT IS INCOMPLETE. I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE DILIGENT ON HAVING PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE WHAT WE NEED, AND WE DON'T ACCIDENTALLY ACCEPT SOMETHING THAT IS INSUFFICIENT. AND THEN THE CLOCK STARTS DOCUMENTING OUR ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW PROCESSES.

SOME COMMUNITIES HAVE BUSINESS RULES. WE HAVE SOME BUSINESS RULES, BUT WE MIGHT FORMALIZE THOSE EVEN MORE THAN WE WE DO NOW. WE MIGHT EVEN SOME COMMUNITIES EVEN HAVE THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS BLESS THE THE BUSINESS RULES SO THAT IT IS CLEAR. AND WE THINK THAT THAT MIGHT HELP FEND OFF A CHALLENGE. IF SOMEBODY THOUGHT THAT WE WERE ACTING ARBITRARILY AND AS WE'RE ADMINISTRATING, ADMINISTERING THESE THINGS, WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HAVING A SPECIAL SPOT ON THE WEBSITE, KIND OF LIKE KNOW YOUR RIGHTS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS AND INSPECTIONS. SO, SO THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT, WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT AND REALLY EMPOWER THEM TO KNOW WHEN THEIR, THEIR TIME FRAMES WOULD BE. IN CASE WE DID NOT FOLLOW ALONG WITH THE STATE LAW, WHICH WE HAVE EVERY INTENT TO DO. SO. MIGHT EVEN GIVE US A CHANCE TO REVISIT SOME OF OUR PROCESSES AS WE GO THROUGH THIS TO, TO SEE IF THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN TIGHTEN UP MAYBE SOME ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVALS, THINGS THAT DON'T REALLY NEED TO GO TO BOARDS ANYMORE. AND I THINK WE CAN ALSO DO THAT AFTER THE COMP PLAN AS WE'RE REWRITING THE ZONING ORDINANCE, COORDINATING OUR REVIEW PROCESSES. SO WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO TO DO THAT AND WE'LL HAVE BUSINESS RULES. AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO EVEN REEVALUATE SOME OF OUR FEES. WE KNOW THAT WE'RE UNDERCHARGING IN SOME AREAS. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO OFTEN REFUND HALF, HALF THE DEVELOPMENT FEES, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CHARGING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN CHARGE AND BACK UP. WE SHOULDN'T CHARGE MORE THAN THAN IT ACTUALLY COSTS TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE. BUT I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL APPLICATION TYPES BASED ON A RECENT STUDY WE DID WHERE WE'RE NOT CHARGING THE THE COST OF PROVIDING THE SERVICE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT. WE MIGHT ASK THE BMA TO ALSO ADOPT OUR CHECKLIST, MAYBE BY RESOLUTION, THAT MIGHT GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE WEIGHT, THAT IF WE'RE ASKING SOMEBODY TO SUBMIT SOMETHING AND MAKE MAKE SURE THAT THAT THERE IS AN OFFICIAL ADOPTION OF THAT REQUIREMENT. AND IT WOULDN'T BE IT WOULDN'T BE DEBATED THAT MAYBE STAFF WAS TRYING TO BE ARBITRARY OR, OR THROW OBSTACLES AT AN APPLICANT. THIS TIME. I HAVE A QUESTION.

OKAY, SO TRAINING, WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO TRAIN OUR OUR STAFF ON ANY BUSINESS RULES WE COME UP WITH, AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE SECTOR, PARTICULARLY RELATED TO INSPECTIONS. THEY NEED TO KNOW WHAT WHAT RIGHTS THEY HAVE BECAUSE SOME SOME FOLKS HAVE WORKED HERE FOR YEARS AND THEY KNOW HOW IT WORKS. AND SO THEY NEED TO KNOW HOW HOW SOME OF THESE THINGS WILL BE TWEAKED AND HOW THE INSPECTIONS MIGHT, MIGHT WORK FOR THEM. AND UPDATING THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. WE NEED TO DO THAT AS WELL, NOT JUST THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND WE MIGHT WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF A RECENT STATE LAW. THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT DOING ANYWAY. THERE WAS A RECENT CHANGE THAT ALLOWS STAFF TO APPROVE MORE FINAL PLATS ADMINISTRATIVELY. IF THERE WAS A PRELIMINARY PLAT APPROVAL, UP TO 25 LOTS. SO THAT'S A A PHASE OF LOCKWOOD. YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN ALL THE A BUNCH OF PRELIMINARY PLATS OUT THERE THAT WHEN THEY GET TO THE FINAL PLAT STAGE, THEY. INSTEAD OF COMING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THEY'D STILL SUBMIT A FINAL PLAT, BUT STAFF WOULD REVIEW IT. AND SO THAT THAT OPENS UP. RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T TAKE ANY. WE DON'T APPROVE ANYTHING MORE THAN TWO, TWO LOTS. THE DIVISION OF TWO LOTS. SO THAT THAT WOULD REDUCE THE NUMBER OF STAFF REPORTS AND FREE UP, FREE UP SOME TIME AND DEFINITELY ESTABLISHING A TRACKING PROCESS FOR, FOR HOW WE KEEP UP WITH INSPECTIONS AND, AND SITE PLAN REVIEWS. AND WE HAVE A SOFTWARE PACKAGE CALLED IWORK. AND WE WOULD USE USE THAT. SO SOME ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY HAD.

IT'S BEEN REALLY THOROUGH ON CHECKING IN SUBMITTALS. SO WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. WE CAN KEEP DEADLINES AND WE'RE GOING TO REEVALUATE OUR DEADLINES AND THE ABILITY TO PAUSE A CASE. ONE IDEA AND WE GOT THIS IDEA IN A CONVERSATION WE'RE HAVING WITH GERMANTOWN, BECAUSE THEY'RE HAVING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE SAME PROCESS, AS WELL AS MAYBE HAVE A DROP OFF MEETING ON, ON DEADLINE DAY FOR CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. NOT EVERYTHING, NOT A FENCE PERMIT, BUT IF IT'S A, IF IT'S A 100 LOT NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY WOULD SCHEDULE A TIME TO COME AND MEET WITH US, DROP OFF THE PLANS. WE WOULD MAKE SURE IT'S SUFFICIENT. THAT WAY. WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT MISSING SOMETHING. SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW WITH WITH GERMANTOWN AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND OUR OUR ATTORNEYS. SO REALLY THAT THAT

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CONCLUDES THE SUMMARY OF OUR APPROACH. AND AS, AS WE'RE GOING INTO THE INTO THE LAW. SO THE TIMELINE FOR IMPLEMENTATION, WE COULD BRING IT TO YOU AT YOUR OCTOBER 1ST MEETING. I KNOW YOU GOT A LOT OF STUFF ON THAT, THAT THAT AGENDA, OCTOBER 8TH COULD BE AT 6 P.M. COULD BE A TIME FOR CONSIDERING JUST, JUST THOSE CHANGES. THERE'S A, A WORK SESSION COMING UP SEPTEMBER 14TH, AND THEY'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT I'LL GIVE THEM THE SAME PRESENTATION MORE OR LESS IF WE GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER AND BE ON THE BOOKS AND ADOPTED BY JANUARY 1ST. AND WE WOULD ALSO DO SOME TRAINING TO.

THROUGH CHRISTMAS TIME. BUT AGAIN, THE NEW LAW BECOMES EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOT TOO MUCH TIME THAT PASSES AFTER THAT. AFTER THAT GOES INTO EFFECT WITHOUT US REVISING OUR, OUR PROCESSES BECAUSE WE, WE DO NOT WANT TO ACCIDENTALLY APPROVE A PROJECT THAT DOES NOT MEET TOWN'S STANDARDS AND AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. YES, SIR. WELL, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WEEDS OF IT TOO MUCH. I WAS KIND OF TAGGING ON SCOTT'S QUESTIONS WITH REGARDS TO PROCEDURES AND UP TO THE 30 DAYS YOU SAID YOU APPROVE THEM WITHIN THREE DAYS, BUT UP TO 30 DAYS. GOING BACK TO THAT REVIEW. PROCESS. SO TYPICALLY IF IF A APPLICATION IS SUBMITTED, THAT'S WHEN THE FEES WOULD BE SUBMITTED AS WELL. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. TYPICALLY THE FEES ARE ABOUT ON AVERAGE. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY. IT COULD BE A COUPLE OF HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR A REALLY SMALL CASE TO A FEW THOUSAND, 4 OR 5000 FOR A LARGER CASE. AND WITHIN THAT 30 DAYS, I LIKE HOW YOU SAID THE CHECKLIST, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE LIKE A PRECURSOR TO SAY YOU MADE THIS CHECKLIST. YES. AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. AND WITH REGARDS TO THAT, LET'S JUST SAY YOU GET INTO 15, 20 DAYS, IT'S NOT LOOKING GOOD. AND YOU'RE ABOUT READY TO SAY, THIS IS NOT GOING TO WORK. WE'RE GOING TO KEEP HALF THE MONEY AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THE APPLICANTS CAN SAY, PAUSE, HOLD ON, LET ME GO BACK AND REVIEW. AND THAT WOULD PUT THAT WOULD BE RECOGNIZED BY THE STATE OR BE RECOGNIZED BY THE TOWN AS AN OFFICIAL PAUSED TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW HOWEVER LONG THAT PAUSE IS. SO WE WOULD OWE THEM THE REFUND. AFTER TWO REVIEWS AND A DENIAL, TWO REVIEWS. AND SO IF AFTER ONE REVIEW IT LOOKED REALLY BAD, IF WE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT DEVELOPER, WE MIGHT SAY, CONSIDER PAUSING FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND MAYBE I'LL NEED TO REVISE YOUR PLAN SO THAT WHEN IT DOES COME IN THE SECOND TIME, IT'S, IT'S SUPER CLEAN. THAT THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO. WE DO WHAT WE CALL A PAGE TURNING SESSION AFTER WE ISSUE COMMENTS FOR MAJOR PROJECTS. SO IT COULD BE WE HAVE THAT MEETING AND THEN WE, WE TELL THEM, HEY, WHAT? WHY DON'T YOU CONSIDER WAITING A WHILE AND REALLY TRYING TO TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT AND WE'LL SEE. THEY MIGHT MIGHT TAKE US UP. THEY MIGHT NOT. THEY HAVE THE POWER TO PAUSE. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT POWER TO WE DO NOT HAVE PAUSE POWER. OKAY. WE CAN ONLY SUGGEST IT. WE KIND OF HAD PAUSE POWER BEFORE THIS, BUT WE WON'T ANYMORE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO AND I KNOW YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO DO A WORK SESSION. I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH IN THE WEEDS, BUT I'LL PROBABLY HAVE SOME MORE QUESTIONS. BUT SURE. SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. JAMIE, IS THERE ANY. PART OF THE LAW THAT WOULD ALLOW OR I DON'T KNOW IF IT WOULD EVEN BE FEASIBLE TO DO THIS TO, TO HAVE SOME SORT OF DRAFT SUBMITTAL, YOU KNOW, WHERE SOMEBODY MAYBE THEY DON'T PAY THEIR FEE YET, BUT THEY SUBMIT THEIR DRAFT, WHICH DOESN'T START THE CLOCK RUNNING.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GIVE THEM FEEDBACK, THEY CAN KIND OF FIX WHATEVER FEEDBACK YOU GIVE THEM AND THEN THEY SUBMIT WITH THEIR FEE. I MEAN, THAT MAY BE WAY TOO MUCH WORK FOR YOU GUYS. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WOULD BE POSSIBLE. WE DO SOMETHING KIND OF LIKE THAT WITH THE, WE CALL IT A SKETCH PLAT FOR SUBDIVISIONS. AND WE KIND OF GET AROUND THE VESTING LAWS THAT WAY OR NOT IN A BAD WAY, GET AROUND IT, BUT IT ALLOWS THE APPLICANT TO GET SOME EARLY INEXPENSIVE FEEDBACK. AND, AND THERE'S NO VESTING INVOLVED. NOT MANY PEOPLE TAKE US UP ON THAT. WE DO AT OUR PRE-APPLICATION CONFERENCES OFTEN SEE A PLAN AND WE, WE MIGHT DO WHAT WE CALL A COURTESY REVIEW. WE MIGHT MISS SOME STUFF, BUT THE BIGGIES, WE CATCH THOSE THINGS. SO WE MIGHT OFFER THAT. AND THEN FOR SITE PLANS, ACTUALLY, JOHN AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT MAYBE WHAT IF PRELIMINARY SITE PLANS, YOU NEVER VOTED ON THEM. YOU JUST LOOKED AT THEM AND GAVE SOME REALLY INEXPENSIVE, INFORMAL FEEDBACK. I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHETHER LEGAL THINKS THE THE SKETCH PLAT IS BOUND BY THIS BECAUSE THERE'S NO THERE'S NO VOTE AT THE END OF THE DAY. AND SO IT COULD BE WE DO MORE WORK SESSIONS. I JUST SPITBALLING SOME COMMUNITIES MIGHT HAVE A LIKE A WORK SESSION FOR SOME APPLICANTS WITH EVEN WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND MAYBE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE MEETING 30 DAYS FROM NOW AND YOU'RE GIVING FEEDBACK AND THE HISTORIC COMMISSION HAS BEEN DOING THAT MORE OFTEN. AND THAT'S THAT'S PROVEN HELPFUL IN

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SOME CASES TO HELP APPLICANTS PREPARE. SO ALL, ALL OF THOSE ARE DIFFERENT IDEAS, WORK SESSIONS, NOT NOT STAFF FEEDBACK. OR WE COULD CREATE A NEW, A NEW APPLICATION TYPE LIKE A, A NON-VOTING SITE PLAN SO THAT COMMERCIAL FOLKS COULD GET THAT LEVEL OF FEEDBACK TO GOOD STUFF. SO WITHIN THESE RULES, WILL THE PLANS HAVE TO BE MORE COMPLETE AND MORE MONEY SPENT TO, TO GET THEM TO YOU FOR THE ORIGINAL SUBMISSION OR IN COMPARISON TO WHERE WE ARE NOW, THEY WILL HAVE TO BE COMPLETE. AND SO OCCASIONALLY SOMETHING GETS THROUGH THAT MAYBE SHOULDN'T GET THROUGH. INITIALLY, MAYBE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE TRAFFIC STUDY AND MAYBE WE THOUGHT IT WAS A TRAFFIC STUDY. BUT WHEN WE GOT INTO IT, IT WAS JUST LIKE A LETTER. AND THEY'D NEVER TALKED TO ANY TWO. SO WE'VE GOT SOME INTERIOR COORDINATION TO MAKE SURE THAT APPLICATIONS ARE SUFFICIENT ON ON THE FRONT END, BUT IT WILL BE A HEAVY EMPHASIS TO MAKE SURE IT'S COMPLETE EVERYTHING THAT'S NEEDED ON DAY ONE. WE WON'T WE WON'T BE ABLE TO REALLY ACCEPT STUFF TRICKLING, TRICKLING IN LATER, LIKE SUBMITTING IT WITHOUT THE DETENTION CALCULATIONS, THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM. THAT'S GOING TO BE A FULL STOP.

SOMETIMES PEOPLE SUBMIT WITHOUT ARCHITECTURE, AND IF WE CATCH IT, THEN WE'RE LIKE, NO, FULL, FULL STOP. WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE SO THAT IF, IF, IF THAT'S PART OF SOMEBODY'S MODEL WHERE THEY'RE SUBMITTING STUFF, HOPING TO SUBMIT OTHER DETAILS ALONG THE WAY, THEY'RE GOING TO FIND THAT THAT'S, THAT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR THEM. THE EXPECTATION IS DAY ONE, WE'RE GOING TO NEED WHAT WE NEED. BUT, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE SUPER CLEAR ABOUT IT BECAUSE THAT CHECKLIST IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE CRYSTAL CLEAR. AND PARTICULARLY IF THE BMA ADOPTS THAT THEY'RE SAYING THIS, THIS IS WHAT WE EXPECT. AND WE'LL WE'LL STICK TO THAT LIST AND MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S IT'S FOLLOWED. BUT YOU SAY YOU ARE WILLING TO DO DEVELOPMENT OR WHATEVER WORK STUDIES BEFORE. YES. OFF THE RECORD WITH THEM TOO. YEAH. WELL, COURTESY REVIEWS OR, OR EVEN WORK SESSIONS. WE'RE, WE'RE ABLE TO HELP HELP SUGGEST THOSE. AND I THINK THE COMMUNITY SEEMS LIKE IT'S WILLING TO DO THAT. NOW.

YOU MAY GET TIRED OF DOING THEM IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE GETTING 4 OR 5 WORK SESSION REQUESTS A MONTH, BUT WE HAVE OPTIONS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I KNOW I THREW A LOT AT Y'ALL. IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING. YES. IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT WORKS, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'LL MAKE OCTOBER GO THAT MUCH BETTER. THANKS, JAMIE. THANK YOU. SO I KNOW MIKE WANTS TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE 2050 PLAN. HEY, JOHN, WHERE ARE YOU GOING? I GOT A OH, EVERYBODY TAKE NOTE. I'M LEAVING THE BUILDING WHEN I GET UP TO THE PODIUM. WELL, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE 20 OR THE 2050 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN FOR, FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

THAT'S KIND OF A QUICK RECAP OF SOME OF THE STUFF THAT HAD HAPPENED. IT REALLY ALL KIND OF KICKED OFF APRIL OF LAST YEAR WHEN WE DID THE INITIAL PRESENTATION AT THE CHAMBER OF WHAT THE INTENT WAS. THE BOARD WAS FORTUNATE TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING, AND WE DIDN'T WAIT TO HIRE THE CONSULTANT FOR THE FOR SOME OF THE ENGAGEMENT. IN TERMS OF THE ENGAGEMENT, THE STUFF THAT OUR CONSULTANTS DID IS THEY HAD A PRIMARY MEETING AND KICKOFF TOUR. THIS SLIDE IS ACTUALLY OUTDATED NOW BECAUSE THEY WERE HERE JUST RECENTLY. SO WE'VE ACTUALLY NOW HAD UPWARDS OF NINE ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES WITH OUR CONSULTANT. PREVIOUS TO THAT, THE TOWN INITIATED, WE ACTUALLY HAD MORE THAN A DOZEN STAFF INITIATED ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES THROUGHOUT THE SUMMER OF 2025. AND THE WHOLE PRINCIPLE BEHIND THAT IS THIS ISN'T A PLAN THAT'S CREATED BY THE PLANNING STAFF OR THE DEVELOPMENT STAFF. IT'S NOT A PLAN THAT'S CREATED BY OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. THIS IS A PLAN THAT IS PROVIDED BASED ON INFORMATION FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND IT'S THE COMMUNITY'S DRIVER TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE OVER A 25 MEMBER STEERING COMMITTEE THAT ON TOP OF THOSE 25 MEMBERS, WE HAVE FOUR STUDENTS FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL. THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE VOICE OF THE PLAN. SEVERAL. WE HAVE A COUPLE OF YOU THAT ARE ON THAT STEERING COMMITTEE, AND WE APPRECIATE THE ACTIVITIES. BUT SO FAR WE.

AS OF TUESDAY, WE'VE HAD 11 STEERING COMMITTEE MEETINGS, ONE MULTI-DAY DESIGN CHARETTE.

AND THEN WE HAD FOUR OTHER POP UP ACTIVITIES, KIND OF SMALL SCALE. HOW THIS ENGAGEMENT REALLY WORKS. IT'S A FUNNEL WHERE WE START BIG, REALLY KIND OF GRAND IDEAS BASED ON COMMUNITY INPUT. THAT INPUT THEN GETS FILTERED DOWN INTO THE PLAN VISION, KIND OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF, OKAY, WHAT IS THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? THAT IS THEN FRAMED UP TIGHTER BASED ON THE COMMUNITY VALUES, WHICH THEN BECOME THE CHAPTER GOALS AND THEN THE ACTIONS OF

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RECOMMENDATIONS. EACH LEVEL GETS MORE AND MORE FINE TUNED TO BECOME MORE PRESCRIPTIVE OF WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS OF THE FUTURE OF COLLIERVILLE WILL BE. IN TERMS OF THOSE PLAN CHAPTERS.

REALISTICALLY, AS I MENTIONED, THEY ARE THE FOUNDATION OF WHAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE HAS STATED, WHAT THE SURVEY RESULTS AND WHAT EACH OF THE DIFFERENT ENGAGEMENTS HAVE COME ABOUT. IT ALSO KIND OF WEIGHS THEM AGAINST BEST PRACTICES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REALLY TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WE'RE TRENDS IN THE WORLD ARE GOING, IS IT GOING TO BE JUST ALL SINGLE FOUR ACRE LOT DEVELOPMENTS, OR ARE WE GOING TO HAVE TO CREATE A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING? DO WE NEED A LEVEL OF SERVICE A AND EIGHT LANES THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY? I'M SURE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. I SEE TOD HAS ALSO LEFT THE BUILDING, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S REPRESENTATIVE, NOT JUST FOR THE COLLIERVILLE TODAY, BUT COLLIERVILLE. IN 25 YEARS. THE CHAPTERS REALLY START WITH COMMUNITY SNAPSHOT KIND OF INDICATION OF WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. AND THEN IT GOES INTO THAT VISIONING. THAT'S OUR NORTH STAR. SO THAT'S THE DIRECTION, THE LAND USE PLAN, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK, OH, OKAY, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, IT'S THE LAND USE PLAN. THAT'S ONLY ONE CHAPTER, ONE SMALL CHAPTER WITHIN THE DOCUMENT. WELL, SO BEGINNING TO TRANSIT, TRANSPORTATION AND MOBILITY, FIGURING OUT, OKAY, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET AROUND NOT JUST VEHICLES, BUT GREENWAYS, SIDEWALKS, PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIVITY, MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE TAKING ALL THESE ITEMS IN CONSIDERATION. OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE BIG TOPICS IN COLLIERVILLE IS HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS, MAKING SURE THAT THOSE ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT WE WANT IN COLLIERVILLE AND TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER. ONE OF THE PARTS THAT I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT IS THERE ALSO GOING TO BE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CHAPTER. THIS WILL BECOME MY MARCHING ORDERS. WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF WHAT I DO, AS WELL AS LOOKING AT SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN THE PAST ON HOW TO HELP FUND SOME OF THESE PROJECTS, MAKING SURE THAT THE END RESULT IS STILL GOING TO BE A NET BENEFIT OR A RETURN ON INVESTMENT FOR THE TOWN OF COLLIERVILLE. OF COURSE, RECREATION AND NATURAL ENVIRONMENT ARE CRITICAL. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRESERVE WHAT DREW US TO COLLIERVILLE. IT'S NOT JUST THE HOMES, BUT IT'S PLACES LIKE JOHNSON PARK AND THE BOARDWALK AND SOME OF THESE NATURAL AREAS LIVABILITY, CHARACTER AND GROWTH. AND ONE ITEM THAT I'M ALSO GOING TO TOSS IN THERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT DESIGN. ONE OF THE EXPECTATIONS IS THIS IS THAT WE RAISE THE BAR. WE DON'T ACCEPT THE STATUS QUO. SO IN THE FUTURE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COULD COME OUT OF THIS IS DRIVE THROUGH FAST OR CHAIN RESTAURANTS. THEY MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET THEIR TYPICAL PROTOTYPE DESIGN. THEY MIGHT HAVE TO ELEVATE THEIR DESIGN IN ORDER TO BE HERE IN COLLIERVILLE. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SOME OF THE STEERING COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE DISCUSSING RIGHT NOW PUBLIC SERVICES AND FACILITIES. THIS IS EVERYTHING FROM DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS UTILITIES TO LOCATION OF MUNICIPAL SERVICES, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO PUT FUTURE FIRE STATIONS, ALSO HOW WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THE PLAN. AND THEN THERE WILL BE SEVERAL APPENDICES, WHICH WILL INCLUDE SEVERAL SUBAREA PLANS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET REALLY INTO THE WEEDS. SPECIFICALLY. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THREE OF THOSE UPDATING OUR DOWNTOWN PLAN FOR THE SQUARE AND THE AREA AROUND IT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE PRESERVING THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO ENHANCE, WHERE APPROPRIATE. WE'RE LOOKING AT SUBAREA PLAN FOR THE 72 CORRIDOR, EVERYTHING FROM POPLAR TO THE COUNTY LINE. KNOWING THAT THERE IS SUCH A WIDE ARRAY OF DIFFERENT CONCEPTS AND IDEAS THAT OCCUR THERE. AND THEN OF COURSE, THE ONE THAT EVERYBODY IS ALWAYS ASKING THE HOUSTON LEVY SHELBY INTERSECTION CARRIAGE CROSSING IN THAT AREA, WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF THAT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE SEVERAL DRAFT CHAPTERS. THE COMMUNITY SNAPSHOT, COMMUNITY VISIONING, LAND USE, NEIGHBORHOOD DESIGN AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. OUR STEERING COMMITTEE IS CURRENTLY REVIEWING THOSE CHAPTERS, AND WE ANTICIPATE THOSE BEING PUT UP ON THE WEBSITE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW WITHIN THE NEXT HOPEFULLY COUPLE DAYS, IF NOT DEFINITELY BY THE END OF NEXT WEEK. THAT WAY, WE'RE CONTINUING TO BE TRANSPARENT AS WE'VE BEEN THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. WITHIN THE OTHER CHAPTERS, WE'RE ANTICIPATING THOSE BEING PROVIDED TO US WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS FOR INITIAL STAFF REVIEW, AND THEN ALSO ENDING THOSE OFF TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE. BUT THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO HAVE ALL OF THESE CHAPTERS READY FOR NOVEMBER. AS I MENTIONED, CHAPTER ONE, COMMUNITY SNAPSHOT, THIS IS JUST WHERE WE'RE AT. WE LOOK AT NOT ONLY WHERE WE'RE AT COLLIERVILLE, BUT WHERE WE'RE AT WITHIN THE ENTIRE STATE, WHERE WE'RE GOING BASED ON OUR SOME OF OUR GROWTH POPULATIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE FORWARD THINKING, THE COMMUNITY VISION. ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS OUR NORTH STAR. THE STEERING COMMITTEE CAME UP WITH THIS.

THIS WAS NOT STAFF OR CONSULTANT DRIVEN, BUT IT STATES IN 2050, COLLIERVILLE IS A THRIVING COMMUNITY DEFINED BY STRONG RELATIONS, SAFE AND WELCOMING NEIGHBORHOODS, VIBRANT PUBLIC SPACE, AND THOUGHTFUL GROWTH THAT PRESERVES THE TOWN'S UNIQUE

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CHARACTER AND EXCEPTIONAL QUALITY OF LIFE WELL. WE ALSO EXPAND UPON CORE PRINCIPLES THAT FURTHER THAT IDEA PRESERVE CHARACTER OR PRESERVE COMMUNITY, CHARACTER AND IDENTITY, STRENGTHEN PARKS, GREEN SPACE, PUBLIC GATHERING SPACE, SAFE, CONNECTED NEIGHBORHOODS, PROMOTE SUSTAINABLE, SUSTAINABLE, THOUGHTFUL GROWTH, ENHANCE MOBILITY FOR ALL USERS, AND FOSTER A STRONG COMMUNITY. ALSO GOING TO ADD IN THERE THAT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE INCORPORATING THE SCHOOLS. THE SCHOOLS ARE A HUGE REASON OF WHY FOLKS MOVE TO COLLIERVILLE.

COLLIERVILLE HAS THE NUMBER ONE SCHOOL SYSTEM IN THE STATE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT, AND THAT THIS PLAN WORKS IN COLLABORATION AND COOPERATION WITH OUR SCHOOLS.

CHAPTER THREE THE LAND USE PLAN. THIS WILL BE KIND OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS FOR WHERE THINGS ARE GOING TO GO. THEY'RE GOING TO BE CREATING THIS FULL DASHBOARD. AND I REALIZE THE TEXT ON HERE IS WAY TOO SMALL TO READ, BUT THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE. IT'S GOING TO LIST THE DIFFERENT ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WOULD CORRESPOND WITH THE DIFFERENT CHARACTER AREAS, THE INTENT AND GOALS OF THAT. WHERE ARE WE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH ACTUAL VISUAL REPRESENTATIONS OF THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS THAT WOULD BE CHARACTERISTIC, INCLUDING SOME OF THOSE RANGES FOR DENSITY SIZES AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT TYPES. OF COURSE, IT'S GOING TO BE BACKED BY A PLAN. AND THIS PLAN WE'RE CONSTANTLY EVOLVING. THERE'S A DRAFT OF THE PLAN OUT IN THE FOYER. EVEN THAT DRAFT HAS BECOME OUTDATED. WE MET WITH SOME NEIGHBORS NOT TOO LONG AGO, AND THEY STARTED TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE AREAS IN IMMEDIATE PROXIMITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SOME OF THEIR IDEAS MADE A LOT OF SENSE. AND SO WE VETTED THOSE THROUGH THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THE STEERING COMMITTEE. AGREED. YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE. SO THOSE CHANGES WILL BE IMPLEMENTED. CHAPTER FIVE, HOUSING AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

REALLY LOOKING AT WHAT WE GOT AND HOW THOSE ARE CONSTANTLY EVOLVING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE RECOGNIZING THAT WE NEED A DIVERSITY OF HOUSING OPTIONS. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A LOT ON THE FAR LEFT, AND WE HAVE A LOT THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND FINISHING BEING CONSTRUCTED ON THE RIGHT. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE A WORD TONIGHT, BUT IT'S THE STUFF IN THE MIDDLE, THE WHAT PLANNERS CALL THE MISSING MIDDLE. THOSE ARE THE OTHER HOUSING TYPES THAT REALLY NEED TO ALSO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION. THIS COULD BE EVERYTHING FROM GUEST HOUSES TO DUPLEXES THAT LOOK ABSOLUTELY IDENTICAL TO A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

THERE'S PRODUCTS CALLED BUNGALOW COURTS, AND EVEN SOME OF THE NEWER DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAVE IN COLLIERVILLE KIND OF START MEETING THAT EXPECTATION, TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION SOME OF THE NEWER DEVELOPMENT ON WASHINGTON STREET. JUST OFF OF THE SQUARE. THERE'S A PORTION OF THAT THAT KIND OF CORRESPONDS TO A BUNGALOW COURT, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS, AND ONE THAT I THINK WE HAVEN'T REALLY TAPPED INTO ENOUGH IS THE LIVE WORK OPTION, WHERE YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL ABOVE COMMERCIAL. IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW COMMUNITIES USED TO BE BUILT, WELL, YOU LOOK AT OUR TOWN SQUARE AS AN EXAMPLE. CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING AN APARTMENT OR SORRY, I USE THE WORD A DWELLING UNIT ABOVE ONE OF THOSE BUSINESSES IN DOWNTOWN AND BE ABLE TO WALK TO THE COFFEE SHOP OR TO THE RESTAURANTS. HOW SPECTACULAR WOULD THAT BE? WHY DO WE HAVE TO LIMIT IT TO OUR TOWN SQUARE? WHERE APPROPRIATE, WE NEED TO TAKE THOSE INTO CONSIDERATION. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THERE'S A LOT OF CHARTS, A LOT OF NUMBERS. BUT THE BIG THING HERE IS MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE SETTING EVERY OTHER PIECE IN PLACE. SO TO TO USE THE WORDS THAT STEVE MARTIN ONCE SAID, THAT WE'RE SO GOOD, WE CAN'T BE IGNORED. SO THAT DEVELOPMENT OCCURS NATURALLY, THAT PEOPLE SEEK US OUT, AS OPPOSED TO ME HAVING TO GO CHASE CORPORATIONS, BUT ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES AND INCENTIVES IN PLACE WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A GAP, THERE MIGHT BE SOME LEVEL OF DEFICIENCY. WE CAN HELP WALK THEM THROUGH THOSE PROCESSES, WHETHER FINANCIALLY, REGULATORY, OR SOME OTHER ELEMENT, TO MAKE SURE THAT BECOMES A REALITY. BUT IT ALL THE FOUNDATION OF IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO QUALITY OF PLACE. CORPORATIONS, BUSINESSES, WHETHER BIG OR SMALL, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO GO TO A PLACE WHERE THEIR THEIR STAFF IS NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY. SO WE NEED TO FOCUS ON MAKING SURE WE REMAIN THE PLACE OF CHOICE, NOT ONLY IN THE MID-SOUTH, BUT I WOULD SAY WITHIN THE ENTIRE REGION. UP NEXT, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON A COUPLE CHAPTERS WE'RE GETTING, FRANKLY, AMBITIOUSLY WAITING FOR THE TRANSPORTATION CHAPTER, BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE A HEAVY LIFT. AND OUR PRIMARY CONSULTANT HAS EVEN HIRED A CONSULTANT THAT SPECIALIZES IN TRANSPORTATION PLANS. AND IT'S GONE BACK AND FORTH A COUPLE TIMES. OUR PRIMARY CONSULTANT HAS TOLD THE SUB CONSULTANT, NO, THAT AIN'T GOOD ENOUGH FOR COLLIERVILLE.

AND SO THEY'RE MAKING SURE THEY HAVE OUR BEST INTEREST AT HEART, AS THEY'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH TO THE POINT WHERE THEY WON'T EVEN SHOW THEM TO ME BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY

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WERE THAT FAR OFF. SO WE'RE ANTICIPATING WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS, WE'RE HOPEFULLY GETTING THAT CHAPTER FOR STAFF REVIEW AND THEN GOING TO BE FILTERING THESE OUT THROUGH THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THEN ON TO THE PUBLIC WEBSITE FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. NEXT STEPS.

LIKE I SAID, WE'RE APPROXIMATELY HALFWAY THROUGH THE PROCESS. WE'RE SORT OF IN THAT DOT IN THE MIDDLE IN NOVEMBER, EARLY NOVEMBER, WE'LL HAVE THE ENTIRE DOCUMENT AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW. WE'LL BE HOLDING ANOTHER PUBLIC COMMUNITY WORK SESSION. WE'LL WE'LL BE INVITING THE COMMUNITY WILL BE A DROP IN TYPE ACTIVITY. WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THE DATES, AND WE'LL BE HOPEFULLY MEETING WITH THE BMA AND DOING A PRESENTATION AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THIS INFORMATION OUT. THAT WILL BE KIND OF A TURNING POINT WHERE IT'S NO LONGER GOING TO BE DOCUMENT CREATION. IT'LL BE DOCUMENT MODIFICATION. WE'LL BE TWEAKING WHAT THE THE WORDS, THE IDEAS, THE POLICIES AND GUIDELINES ARE PUT IN PLACE THAT WILL GO THROUGH PUBLIC REVIEW FOR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER AND THEN IN EARLY SPRING, HOPEFULLY BEING BEFORE YOU ALL IN JANUARY FOR CONSIDERATION. WE DO ANTICIPATE HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION BEFORE IT GOES TO THE BMA, BECAUSE THIS WILL HAVE TO NOT ONLY HAVE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM OUR STEERING COMMITTEE, IT REQUIRES A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING OR PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND THEN THIS, UNLIKE OUR 2040 PLAN, WILL BE ADOPTED BY ORDINANCE. SO IT WILL BE BINDING, NOT BINDING IN THE SAME CONTEXT AS A ZONING ORDINANCE, BUT BINDING THAT IF YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING DEVIATE, YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO CHANGE IT. YOU'LL BE ABLE TO RUN THOSE PROCESSES PARALLEL. BUT BECAUSE IT IS AN ORDINANCE YOU'LL HAVE, IT'LL BE FIRST READING, TYPICALLY CONSENT. PROBABLY NOT IN THIS CASE, JUST BECAUSE OF THE SCOPE OF IT. THE SECOND WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE BMA, AND THE THIRD WOULD BE FOR THE FINAL ADOPTION. THE GOAL RIGHT NOW IS TO POTENTIALLY GET IT ADOPTED IN MARCH, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT. IF WE HAVE TO EXTEND OUT THAT TIMELINE TO MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT, WE WILL. WE'RE COMPLETELY OKAY WITH THAT. SO ONCE THAT'S COMPLETED, ALL THESE ELEMENTS WILL BE HAVE BEEN COMPLETED IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS. BUT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU ALL. AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MIKE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HEY, JAMIE, DO YOU HAVE TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE ABOUT THE EXTRA MEETING WE HAVE NOT I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING OTHER BUSINESS. I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALREADY BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. I APOLOGIZE, THAT'S MY I'VE ALREADY DROPPED THE SHOT CLOCK KICKED IN. START UP AGAIN? YEAH. DO Y'ALL WANT TO DO DO OCTOBER 8TH FOR A SPECIAL MEETING? I KNOW SOME OF Y'ALL COULDN'T MAKE IT. I AM NOT AVAILABLE, BUT I WOULD PREFER IT BE ALL ON THE FIRST.

BUT. WE USED TO HAVE LONG MEETINGS. I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T HAD A LONG MEETING IN A LONG TIME. I BET HE COULD FIX THAT. YEAH. THAT IS THAT IS THE WEEK BEFORE FALL BREAK. I MEAN, LIKE THE FALL BREAK STARTS. CRC MEETINGS. SO YOU THINK THAT THE OCTOBER 1ST MEETING AGENDA, IF THERE ARE SEVERAL PRIVATE SECTOR ITEMS, IF THEY ALL WANT TO DO IT ON THE FIRST, DO IT ON THE FIRST. YEAH. IT DIDN'T MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN'T BE HERE ON THAT. DO WE HAVE WE STILL GOING TO HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE ON OCTOBER 8TH? I'M NOT SURE THAT WE'VE GOT A QUORUM FOR THE EIGHTH. SO SHOW OF HANDS. WHO COULD BE HERE ON THE EIGHTH? I HAVE TO SEE IF I CAN MOVE SOMETHING. IF WE'RE DOING IT, I'LL TRY HARD, BUT SOUNDS LIKE MOST OF Y'ALL ARE GOING TO BE HERE ON THE FIRST. SO WE COULD JUST WE COULD HAVE IT READY FOR THE FIRST IF Y'ALL JUST WANTED TO PUSH PUSH THROUGH. BUT IT PROBABLY WON'T BE AN 8:00 MEETING. IT'LL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT LATER THAN THAT. THOMPSON HAS SEVERAL PRIVATE SECTOR ITEMS. I'LL BRING SNICKERS BARS. I THINK. CAN WE JUST. YEAH, I'M FINE WITH IT. ON PIZZA. YEAH. FIRST TIME ONCE YOU'RE HERE, I'M HERE. THAT'S KIND OF MY YOU KNOW, IF IT GOES TO 10:00, IT GOES TILL 10:00 AND WE GET IT DONE. BUT I DO WANT TO DO IT ON THE FIRST, DO IT ON THE FIRST. AND THE LAST THING. I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO JOE. JOE BAIN CULVERT. HE'S OUR NEW PLANNER, AND THIS IS HIS SECOND WEEK AND YOU'LL BE SEEING HIM BEFORE TOO LONG. GOOD. WELCOME. GLAD TO BE HERE.

WELCOME TO THE ZOO. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, JOE, SIR.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.