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NEED TO LET BE AT THE TABLE.ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA CALL THE ORDER THE, I'M GONNA CALL US TO
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ORDER THE DISTRICT COMMISSION MEETING ON THURSDAY, AUGUST 27TH, 2026.UH, COULD I HAVE A, UH, ROLL CALL PLEASE? COMMISSIONER DEAN HERE.
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ERS, DO I HAVE A MOTION? WE NEED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
SECOND, IS THAT TO, UH, WITH THE CHANGES JAMIE MADE? YES.
DO WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? COMMISSIONER COX? UH, COMMISSIONER HALL? YES.
I WILL ASK QUICKLY, ARE THERE ANY CITIZEN'S COMMENTS ON ANYTHING? OKAY.
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I BELIEVE THIS IS YOU.SO WE HAD A REQUEST TO COME BEFORE YOU TO HAVE A NON-VOTING DISCUSSION ABOUT THE POST, UH, HOTEL ON THE, THE RIGHT PROPERTY.
UH, THAT'S NORTH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SQUARE.
AND IT WOULD REPLACE WHERE 1 35 OR 1 45 MAIN STREET.
UH, BEFORE I GET STARTED, I THOUGHT I'D MENTION, UM, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME TALLER BUILDINGS AND JUST, JUST TO GET TO THE MAIN ISSUE, PIPE AND SCALE WILL BE A PERHAPS THE BIGGEST THING.
UH, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME TALLER BUILDINGS ON THE, THE SQUARE.
THESE ARE SOME, THIS IS THE CHAD, THIS IS YOUR FAMILY BUILDING BEFORE Y'ALL, Y'ALL REBUILT IT.
SO THERE ARE SOME TWO STORY BUILDINGS.
THE, THE HOTEL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SQUARE THAT, UH, ISN'T THERE ANYMORE.
AND THAT'S WHERE JOHN GREEN REALTY IS NOW.
THERE WAS TWO, THERE WERE TWO STORIES IN.
THERE WAS SOME KIND OF BASEMENT, UH, STRUCTURE THAT, THAT DID CONSTITUTE, UH, A THIRD STORY ON THE, THE RAILROAD SIDE.
SO THERE ARE OTHER TALL BUILDINGS.
THERE WAS A HOTEL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF SOUTH ROULETTE.
THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOMETHING UNDERNEATH IT.
UH, BUT AT LEAST TWO VISIBLE STORIES.
YOU CAN SEE THE, THE ONE THAT WAS ON THE, THE EAST SIDE OF THE SQUARE WITH THE BASEMENT THAT I MENTIONED.
THERE IS SOME HEIGHT FOR, UH, THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE HISTORIC HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING, PARTICULARLY THE, THE AUDITORIUM.
IT, IT COULD GET UP TO AROUND 50 FEET.
UH, BRENTS, OUR GI IS MANAGER IS WITH US.
AND THE, THE TOWN, UM, THE MAYOR BOARD IS GIVE GIVEN US SEVERAL RESOURCES WITH, WITH OUR GI IS PROGRAM.
AND ONE OF 'EM IS, UH, WE, WE DID A, A LIDAR STUDY OF, OF THE ENTIRE TOWN.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO EXTRACT BUILDING HEIGHTS AND TREE HEIGHTS AND THAT THAT'LL, THAT'LL COME UP TODAY.
AND YOU'LL GET TO SEE SOME OF GISS HANDBOARD AND BRENT'S HANDBOARD.
UH, BUT WE GUESS AROUND 50 FEET TO, TO THE TALLEST POINT, UM, MAYBE 36 FEET, UM, AROUND WHERE THE, THE AUDITORIUM IS AND WHERE WE DID THE ADDITION, IT MIGHT BE AROUND 30, 34 FEET TO THE, TO THE TALLS.
THERE WERE SOME TALLER BUILDINGS.
AND EVEN UP ON THE, THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SQUARE AND THE EAST SIDE, THE MASONIC LODGE WAS ONCE TWO STORY.
UH, THE, THE MOVIE THEATER HAD A TWO STORY SCALE ON THE, THE GROCERY STORE NEXT TO IT.
SO WE, WE DID HAVE A TWO TO THREE STORY SCALE IN IN THE PAST.
UM, THIS SLIDE IS INTENDED TO HELP THE HDC KNOW ITS ROLE.
AND WE'VE GOT A, THE SAYING AT MY HOUSE THAT'S POPULAR THESE DAYS, LIKE CLEAR IS KIND.
AND SO I THINK, I THINK THE APPLICANT WANTS TO BE CLEAR WITH Y'ALL FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND AND STAFF WANTS TO BE CLEAR WITH Y'ALL AS WELL.
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YOUR GUIDELINES SAY THAT A BUILDING SHOULDN'T EXCEED 35 FEET IN HEIGHT.THAT'S TWO STORIES FOR A COMMERCIAL BUILDING.
TYPICALLY TALLER BUILDING FOUR PLATES MIGHT TRANSLATE TO THREE STORIES FOR A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING.
THAT'S WHAT YOUR GUIDELINES SAY.
YOUR GUIDELINES ARE NOT, IT'S NOT ZONING, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A HARD AND FAST RULE RULE.
YOU GET TO LOOK AT CONTEXT AND YOU HAVE APPLIED SOME, SOME CONTEXT AND THOUGHT ABOUT OTHER FACTORS AS YOU'VE APPLIED THAT OVER THE YEARS AND, AND OTHER COMMISSIONS BEFORE YOU, UH, THIS PARTICULAR GRAPHIC SHOWS YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT RELATES TO THIS PROPERTY AND BUILDING HEIGHT.
UH, THE A CC GUIDELINES, THE ZONING ORDINANCE, DOWNTOWN PLAN, THE 2040 PLAN AND EVEN THE 2050 PLAN, WHICH HASN'T, IS STILL BEING DRAFTED, HASN'T BEEN ADOPTED, DID THE HT C AND HERE'S WHERE THE CLEAREST KIND PART IS.
THE HCCS ONLY ROLE IN IS, IS LOOKING AT THE GUIDELINES THAT APPLY YOUR GUIDELINES.
UM, YOU CAN BE AWARE OF WHAT THE ZONING BOARD SAYS.
YOU CAN BE AWARE OF WHAT THE LAND USE PLAN SAYS, BUT THE ACCS ROLE IS NOT TO IMPLEMENT THE LAND USE PLAN OR THE DOWNTOWN PLAN.
IT'S TO IMPLEMENT THE HCCS GUIDELINES.
35 FEET WAS IN THERE IN REFERENCE IS CENTRAL BUSINESS AND CENTRAL BUSINESS.
THE, THE, THAT CLIENT IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE HAS CHANGED TO STORIES INSTEAD OF THE, TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBLE.
AND THAT CHANGE HAPPENED IN 2011, BUT WE HAVEN'T GONE IN AND CHANGED THAT IN IN THE A CC GUIDELINES.
THAT IS, IS THAT 35 FEET FROM THE ORIGINAL WHEN WE FIRST DID THE GUIDELINES OR HAS THAT BEEN CHANGED OVER A YEAR? IT WAS ORIGINAL FROM, SO 2002, 2002, THAT'S WHEN THAT NUMBER SHOWED UP HAS BEEN CORRECT.
AND IS THAT FROM FINISHED FLOOR? TO, TO WHAT? THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T REALLY SAY OKAY.
BECAUSE JUST FROM GRADE, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
SO, AND A FLAT ROOF BUILDING VERSUS A SLOPE ROOF, ROOF BUILDING.
THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT WAYS TO RECEIVE HEIGHT.
SO I THINK THEY, THEY LEAD A LOT TO INTERPRETATION.
AND THERE'S SOME OTHER GRAPHICS THAT I DIDN'T INCLUDE IN THIS PRESENTATION THAT, THAT SHOW TRY TO SHOW GRAPHICALLY HOW THE HCC SHOULD LOOK AT HEIGHTS, BUT IN SHORT, WE SHOULD LOOK, LOOK WHAT'S AROUND IT, TRY TO TRY TO GET, GET OUR SCALE FROM THAT.
AND THEN ANYTIME YOU APPROVE A PROJECT, AND SO YOU MAY BE ASKED TO APPROVE THIS PROJECT AT SOME POINT, AND YOUR, YOUR CRITERIA IS TO USE THE GUIDELINES THAT THAT, THAT YOU HAVE, WHICH CAN BE AMENDED IF YOU WANT.
ULTIMATELY, THE MAYOR AND BOARD ADOPTS THE GUIDELINES WITH THE HTC RECOMMENDATION HERE.
UH, BUT AT, AND THE VERY LAST PART IS, IS THE WORK GONNA BE DONE IN A SUBSTANTIAL, WILL IT HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL ADVERSE IMPACT ON AESTHETIC, HISTORICAL ARCHITECTURAL SIGNIFICANCE AND VALUE OF EITHER THE PROPERTY ITSELF OR NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE THE DISTRICT.
SO ESSENTIALLY THINKING ABOUT CONTEXT, AND THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY YOUR CRITERIA.
WHENEVER YOU APPROVE A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, WHETHER FOR THIS HOTEL OR THE HOUSE THAT YOU'RE GONNA DISCUSS LATER, LATER ON IN THE EVENING, IT'S HOW DOES IT AFFECT THE BUILDING, THE PROPERTY, THE CONTEXT ROOM THAT THAT STORE DISTRICT USING THE TOOLS THAT YOU HAVE? SO, SO QUESTION.
IT SAYS, WORK WON'T BE DONE THAT WILL NOT HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL ADVERSE IMPACT
SO IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER SOMETHING WOULD HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL POSITIVE IMPACT, YEAH, WE CAN ALSO WEIGH TO SOME EXTENT, BUT I THINK WE'VE GOTTA WAIT, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING AN ADVERSE IMPACT AND, AND PROVIDING EVIDENCE AS TO WHY THAT COULD BE.
AND, AND WHEN YOU SEE THE DRAWINGS, UH, THAT, THAT THE APPLICANTS HAVE PROPOSED, I BELIEVE THEY ARE TRYING TO TIE IN WITH THE CONTEXT AND WE, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
BUT I THINK CITING WHY, AND YOU'RE NOT BEING ASKED TO TAKE A VOTE TODAY, BUT WHEN IT, WHEN THE TIME COMES, WE'LL NEED TO, AND IF YOU AGREE WITH THIS PROJECT, YOU'LL NEED TO EXPLAIN FOR THE RECORD WHY, WHY IT DOES NOT CREATE AN ADVERSE IMPACT.
AND WHY, WHY THIS THE CONTEXT.
SO AGAIN, HCC APPLIES ITS GUIDELINES WITHIN THESE PARAMETERS.
YOU COULD BE AWARE OF THESE OTHER THINGS, BUT THEY'RE NOT REALLY WITHIN THE H C'S POWER.
IT COULD BE THAT THEY, IF, IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH IT, WHICH IS A-H-C-C-C HAS TO MAKE A DECISION AND YOUR DECISION IS FINAL, AN APPEAL OF AN H DECISION DECISION GOES TO COURT.
IT DOESN'T GO TO THE BMA, THEY CAN'T GO TO THE BMA AND OVER, HAS TO OVERTURN THE HCCS DECISION.
IT COULD GO, UH, FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU FIND THAT THE, THE HE SCALE ADDRESSES THE GUIDELINES, THEY COULD GO FORWARD AND ASK, ASK FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT TO GET FLEXIBILITY FROM THE ZONING TO GET, UH, A FOURTH OR A BI, THIS STORY.
SO THAT BEING SAID, WE AT THE CONTEXT, 24 FEET, JUST RIGHT AROUND WHERE THE OLD, UH, MOVIE THEATER USED TO BE AROUND 22 FEET BEFORE THE ARMY SURPLUS STORE.
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THE BUILDING THAT'S ABOUT 20 YEARS OLD NOW, UH, ON NORTH MAIN IT'S AROUND 29 FEET, UH, ROUGHLY TWO, TWO STORIES.THE GREENS BUILDING 35, 33 FEET, THREE, THREE AND A HALF.
IT'S A COMPLEX BUILDING THAT YOU CAN MEASURE IT FROM LIKE EIGHT DIFFERENT WAYS AND COME UP WITH EIGHT DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
SO TH 35 AND A HALF THAT EXCLUDES THE LITTLE WALK UP AND 43 FEET FROM, IF YOU'RE STANDING, GOING NEXT TO THE O PLACE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE, THE TOP OF THE, THE ELEVATOR SHAFT.
SO IT'S, IT'S GOT, IT'S GOT SOME PIPE.
AND YOU'LL NOTICE THAT IS TALLER THAN 35 FEET.
SO THE HCC HAS LOOKED AT THIS PROPERTY BEFORE AND SAID, THIS IS DIFFERENT.
THERE WAS SOME PRECEDENT BEFORE BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS THERE BEFORE.
AND I REMEMBER THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE I HAVE TO SHOW YOU BEFORE TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT.
AND THEN THAT MID-SOUTH GIFTED BUILDING OVER AT CENTER AND SOUTH, IT'S ABOUT 32 FEET, TWO STORIES.
THE NEW BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET THAT WILL REPLACE GUS IS ABOUT 38 FEET.
AND AGAIN, IT, IT CAN BE MEASURED FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
WE GET SLIGHTLY HIGHER MEASUREMENT IF YOU MEASURE TO COMPARE THE ROAD DROPS OFF.
SO IT'S, IT'S HARD TO GET AN EXACT NUMBER, 38 FEET, BUT IT MIGHT GET UP TO 51 TO THE TOP OF THERE, UH, AMENITY PACKAGE.
AND I BELIEVE THE HCC TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NOT A CONTEXT AROUND THERE.
SO THE CONSTRUCTION THREE, FIVE, SO IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO 35, BUT THEY DID, Y'ALL DID ALLOW FOR A FOURTH RECESS SCORE.
UM, GIS WE DO HAVE, UH, UH, USING THAT LIDAR STUDY, WE DO HAVE REALLY GOOD INFORMATION ABOUT THE HEIGHTS OF ALL THE TREES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
AND MIKE CLARK AND I WERE MEETING WITH OUR COMP PLAN CONSULTANTS 2050 PLAN.
WE, WE WERE SITTING ON THE BENCH AT THE DEPOT AND WE WERE LOOKING ACROSS WHERE WE JUST REMOVED THE TREES, WHICH WE'LL PROBABLY WORK AGAINST WHAT YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
UH, BUT THEY WERE COMING DOWN ANYWAY.
UM, BUT THERE'S SOME TREES RIGHT HERE.
WE BELIEVE THESE TREES ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THE DENTAL CARES BUILDING.
AND SO THAT THE BUILDING MIGHT BE ABOUT THAT TALL.
THE, THOSE CREWS ARE IN THE, IN THE SEVENTIES, UH, AT THE VERY TOP 7 76 FEET.
SO IT, IT, WE BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE VISIBLE FROM VARIOUS POINTS OF SQUARED.
IT WILL NOT BE OBSCURED BY THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SQUARE.
SO AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO JIM AND YOUR TEAM TO THANK.
WELL, THIS IS THE, UH, I'M
UH, AND I'M GONNA WRITE A COUPLE COMMENTS ON, BUT TELL YOU WHAT THEY SEE AS A AGENT.
UH, THIS IS THE, UH, COLOR CONCEPT OF THIS IS THE FOUR STORY VERSION.
AND THE, THE, AND, AND SEE, WE LOOK AT THE FLOOR PLANS.
THIS IS SET BACK FROM THE, THE FOUR STORY SET BACK FROM THE, FROM THE THIRD.
SO, UH, IN A RESTAURANT, UH, BAR AND ALL UP THERE.
UH, AND SO THIS PART DID NOT CHANGE, WHICH, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
UH, SO NEXT, THAT'S JUST A DIFFERENT VIEW OF IT FROM, FROM, UH, AROUND
UH, AND THE, ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE IS THE TOWER ON THE ROOMS RIGHT THERE THAT WOULD'VE ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL FLOOR ABOVE IT.
SO, UH, AND UH, I THINK THIS GIVES YOU A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THAT BED IS.
I THOUGHT THEY HADN'T DONE YET.
SO, SO, UH, SO WE WE'RE REAL TIME HERE.
WE HAVE THE THING CHANGING EVERY SEAT.
UH, SO TO THE, UH, NEXT A SITE LAYOUT.
UH, I'M GONNA DAN TAKE OVER HERE BASICALLY BEFORE HE DOES.
WE UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THE SQUARE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT HISTORIC DISTRICT, UH, I'VE BEEN HERE 50 SOMETHING YEARS,
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UH, I'VE LIVED IN IT, UH, YOU KNOW, BUILT SEVERAL POLICE HERE.AND, UH, AND, AND WE KNOW THAT ANYTHING WE DO HAS TO FIT IN AND WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T FIT IN, THAT DOESN'T ENHANCE.
SO, UH, WITH THAT IN MIND, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO GET YOUR INPUT ON TODAY.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR ALL THE COMMENTS ON THE ARCHITECTURAL GONNA GIVE US, BUT WE BASICALLY WANT TO RESOLVE THIS FISCAL STORY ISSUE BECAUSE FROM A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT, THE PROJECT IS NOT VIABLE UNLESS WE CAN GET FIVE THREE BOTTOM LINE.
WE NEED TO GET ONE 12 ROOMS AND WE NEED AN EXTRA STORY TOGETHER.
SO, UH, ALRIGHT, DAN, DON'T YOU DESCRIBE WHAT WE'VE GOT IN THESE? SURE, YEAH.
UH, I'M WITH MAXIMUM HOSPITALITY.
UH, WE'RE A MEMPHIS COMPANY AND BEEN AROUND FOR 30 YEARS ALMOST.
SO, UH, AND, AND I'VE BEEN A PART OF 30 SOME ODD DIFFERENT, UH, GROUND UP HOTEL, HOTEL DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THE SOUTHEAST.
UM, AND, AND WE THINK THIS IS A REALLY UNIQUE, UH, OPPORTUNITY, NOT, NOT SO MUCH FOR US, BUT REALLY FOR CARVAL.
UM, I, I THINK THAT THAT, UH, THE RIGHT HOTEL COULD REALLY ENHANCE WHAT IS GOING ON IN CARVAL.
AND, AND, AND I JUST WANT TO GET IT OUT IN THE OPEN THAT, THAT WE REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS HAS GOTTA FIT CARVAL AND, AND, AND SO THE HEIGHT ISSUE DEFINITELY IS ON THE TABLE THERE.
AND IT IS A, IT'S AN ISSUE WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE TWO KIND OF CONTROLLING, UH, ITEMS ON THE SEESAW, IF YOU WILL, ARE THE NUMBER OF KEYS TO BE ABLE TO, TO SPREAD COST OUT AMONG A NUMBER OF KEYS.
AND SO 112 IS WHAT WE THINK IS THE BARE MINIMUM.
WE'D LOVE TO BE A HUNDRED TWENTY, A HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE, BUT, UH, 112 IS, IS WHAT WHERE WE ARE.
AND THAT IS WITH, WE'VE MET, WE'VE HAD, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ITERATIONS OF PLANS, BUT, UH, WE'VE MET WITH MAYOR AND HER TEAM AND, UH, WANNA BE SENSITIVE TO, UH, FOLKS' CONCERNS.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS, UH, OBVIOUSLY YOU, YOU SAW IN THE RENDERING WE'VE GOT THREE STORIES FACING MADE, UH, AND THEN THE ROOMS ARE BUILT BACK.
SO THERE'S TWO CONTROLLING FACTORS, ONE THAT THE NUMBER OF KEYS AND TWO, THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS.
AND SO IF WE DON'T HAVE A FIFTH FLOOR, THE BUILDING GROWS WITH FOUR STORIES TO THE WEST AND, UH, AND EATS UP APPROXIMATELY 35 PARKING SPOTS.
THAT WOULD GET US BACK TO THE 112 KEYS.
UM, AND NOT ONLY THAT, IT MAKES THE FIRST FLOOR REALLY INEFFICIENT.
UM, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF WASTED SPACE DOWN THERE BECAUSE OUR INTENT IS TO USE, UM, THE BUILDING TO THE PLAN SOUTH, UM, UH, TO, TO HAVE IT AS MEETING SPACE AND BANK FACILITY IN THE ARMY SERVICE BUILDING THAT'S RIGHT.
UH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD INTEND TO KEEP THAT, UH, AS IS AND, AND, UH, KNOCK, KNOCK IT DOWN AND BUILD ANOTHER ONE.
YOU, YOU, UH, THAT CURRENT BUILDING.
AND SO, UM, UH, I, I SAY ALL THIS JUST BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S HOW WE GOT TO THE FIVE STORIES.
WE WANTED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THE VIEW FROM MAIN STREET.
AND SO THE TOWER PART THAT JIM TALKED ABOUT IS SET BACK, UM, IF IT'S VISIBLE FROM, YOU KNOW, 12 O'CLOCK IF YOU WILL, MAIN STREET, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE MINIMAL.
AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF TREE COVERAGE, BUT, BUT WE DO NEED THOSE FIVE STORIES TO BE ABLE TO PARK 85 SPACES, UM, AND, AND, UH, HAVE PARKING ON SITE.
UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, UM, OUR INTENTION IS, IS IS TO DO A SOFT BRANDED HOTEL.
UM, IT WOULD REALLY BE A, A BOUTIQUEY HOTEL THAT WOULD BE, UM, IN KEEPING WITH CARNIVAL, BUT ALSO TIP THE HAT TO CARNIVAL'S, YOU KNOW, HISTORY AND, AND THE COOL FLARE THAT CARNIVAL HAS, ESPECIALLY IN THE SQUARE.
AND SO, UH, WE WOULD PLAN ON BEING AN AFFILIATE OF LIKE A HILTON OR A MARRIOTT, BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD HAVE ITS OWN UNIQUE NAME.
IT WOULD BE A, UH, KIND OF A DESTINATION HOTEL AND, AND, UM, IT'D BE A REALLY COOL THING THAT I THINK CARVILLE WOULD BE PROUD OF FOR THE NEXT 30, 40 YEARS.
SO WITH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, YOU, YOU CAN SEE THE ROOM LAYOUTS ON, ON THERE.
UM, THE TOP LEFT CORNER SHOWS, UH, THAT BIG L ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF, OF THE TOP LEFT PICTURE IS THE KITCHEN AND, AND DINING ROOM AND A BAR.
UM, AND SO WE WOULD HAVE KIND OF STOREFRONT RESTAURANT THAT PEOPLE COULD WALK UP TO.
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UM, OBVIOUSLY THE ELEVATORS ARE RIGHT NEXT TO THAT.ALL THE BACK OF THE HOUSE STUFF IS PRETTY MUCH ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT, THAT L-SHAPED, UM, FLOOR PLAN.
AND THEN WHEN YOU GO UP TO THE THIRD FLOOR, UH, THAT'S WHERE, UH, UM, OUR PLAN IS TO HAVE KIND OF A SKY BAR ON THE THIRD FLOOR WHERE ANYBODY, UH, LOCALS AND GUESTS COULD COME, UH, HAVE A DRINK, UM, HAVE A SMALL PLATE AND, UH, ENJOY KIND OF BEING UP HIGH.
AND, AND, UH, AND ONE MORE GAME.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS, I TALKED TO MAYBE IT'S NOT OKAY, NO PROBLEM.
YEAH, WELL, IT, IT'S, IT, IT, THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE.
WE, WE'VE DONE A NUMBER OF 'EM, 'EM, AND THIS WOULD HAVE AN INDOOR ELEMENT AS WELL AS AN OUTDOOR ELEMENT, SO YOU COULD USE IT NO MATTER WHAT THE WEATHER WAS.
UM, AND SO, AND NOT TO MENTION SOME COVERAGE, UH, FROM THE WEATHER OUT THERE ON THE EXTERIOR AS WELL.
SO WE WANT THIS TO BE A REALLY COOL PLACE THAT, THAT, UH, ANY AND EVERYBODY, UH, WOULD, WOULD WANT TO ENJOY.
AND SO, UH, UH, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE MISSED ANYTHING ELSE BUT HANK FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN.
YOU TALKING ON THE L PART BEHIND THE FRONT BUILDING, WHAT IS THAT SPACE? IS THAT, UH, PATIO AREA OR WHAT DID, WHAT DID YOU, WHAT'S THAT? THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, PART, HE HAD THE CURSOR ON THE RIGHT PICTURE, RIGHT BEHIND THE FRONT BUILDING THE LI GUESS IT IS.
ON THE, WHAT'S THE, THE GROUND BESIDE THE, THE FIVE STORY RIGHT THERE IS, UH, SO ON THE GROUND FLOOR THERE, THERE'S BACKING HOUSE, LAUNDRY, UM, EMPLOYEE BREAK ROOM, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES FOR THE STAFF.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS L-SHAPED LIKE THIS, WHY IS THE BUILDING NOT WIDER? GOT IT.
SO, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE BUILDING IS WHAT IS TRADITIONALLY THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO BUILD A HOTEL IS A DOUBLE LOADED CORRIDOR, THEY CALL IT.
AND SO YOU'VE GOT A CORRIDOR GOING DOWN THE MIDDLE, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ROOMS OFF OF THAT.
AND SO I THINK WE'RE ROUGHLY 66 FEET WIDE AND THAT, THAT, UH, ALLOWS FOR A, A FIVE AND A HALF FOOT CORRIDOR PLUS ROOMS ON BOTH SIDES.
SORRY, OUT THERE, OUT EXTERIOR.
WE HAVE SOME GREEN SPACE OUT THERE.
THAT COMES OUT OF THE CONFERENCE ROOM.
AND UH, AND ALSO THE, THE, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE ENTRANCE IS ENTRANCE.
THE ENTRANCE WILL BE ON THIS SIDE NEXT TO THE DENTAL OFFICE.
WHAT OPTIONS DO YOU HAVE FOR LANDSCAPING? YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXTRA SPACE.
DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH FOR PUTTING SOME TREES OR ANYTHING? WE, WE DO HAVE SOME GREEN AREAS, UH, INCLUDING OUT IN THE PARKING LOT AREA AS WELL.
BUT YEAH, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN SUPER DEEP IN LANDSCAPING.
BUT OUR INTENT WOULD BE TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS, UH, WE GET SOME GOOD BREAKOUT.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS BEHIND YOU RELATED, MIKE.
SO, SO THIS, BY THE WAY, THE RIGHT HOTELS, NO UNINTENDED, RIGHT?
I CAN TELL YOU I DON'T WANT THE NAME TO BE, BUT
PREVIOUSLY, THIS IS FAR AWAY FROM WHERE THAT PARKING DRIVE WAS.
SO THERE'S A, UM, YOU HAVE ANGLE VIEWS LIKE FROM DIFFERENT STREETS THAT WE COULD SEE.
YOU'RE STANDING THERE AT THE EYE LEVEL, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE AT DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES.
I THINK THEY'VE GOT THIS ON THE GIS AND SO THIS, THE, THE APPLICANTS WERE GREAT TO WORK WITH.
THEY GAVE US THIS MODEL AND RENDERED UP A GREAT MODEL.
AND BRENT AND HIS, HIS GIS TEAM, AND THEY, THEY HAVE CREATED, UH, LIKE A VIRTUAL CARVILLE.
SO THESE BUILDINGS ARE, THEY DON'T LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE BUILDINGS, BUT THE HEIGHTS ARE, ARE GENERALLY THERE.
EVEN THE WATER TOWER DON'T LAUGH AT IT.
IT LOOKS LIKE A SILO, IT LOOKS LIKE.
SO JAMIE LETS ACTUALLY REPRESENTS TOPOGRAPHY THAT'S THERE TOO, RIGHT? RIGHT.
AS FAR AS THE, THE BASE ITSELF, YES.
THE TOPOGRAPHY SHOULD BE PRETTY CLOSE.
THE MODEL ITSELF IS, IS A FLAT BOTTOM MODEL.
SO IT'S, IT'S KIND OF JUST SET IN PLACE.
BUT IF THE RAILROAD TRACK IS LOWER THAN MULBERRY STREET CORRECT.
SO WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS AS CLOSE TO REALITY AS YOU'RE GONNA GET.
SO THROUGH THIS COLLABORATION, WE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO CREATE SOME, SOME VIEWS THAT WE CAN WALK YOU THROUGH.
AND IT TURNS OUT HERE'S, HERE'S LIKE A, THE STARTING VIEW.
YOU CAN SEE THE, WHAT I'LL CALL IT, THE SKY SC SCOTT BAR, THIS STORY
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EXISTING ARMY SURPLUS THAT WE'D BE SAVED.ONE THING THAT I WOULD POINT OUT FOR THE HCC, HAVING THIS DIFFERENT COLOR AT THE BASE AND THIS REALLY STRONG STOREFRONT, IT TIES INTO WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
SO THAT IS A, A CONTEXT, CLICK THAT WITH WHAT IT TIES WITH THE FACADES THAT ARE THERE TIES WITH THAT, THE SCALE OF THE, THE ARMY SURPLUS STORE AND OKAY.
SO IS THERE ANY TALK ABOUT THE ALLEY, IS THE ALLEY GONNA BE STILL SOMEWHAT ACCESSIBLE? I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE A FUNCTION THERE EVERY YEAR.
SO WE'LL GO, WE CAN ZOOM, I'M GONNA ZOOM THROUGH THE LAYOUTS AND THEN WE'LL, WE CAN ZOOM ANYWHERE YOU WANT TO GO.
SO THIS IS LOOKING DOWN THE STREET, YOU CAN SEE THAT WHERE YOUR EYE TAKES YOU DOWN, WHERE IT TIES IN WITH THE, WITH THE HEIGHTS, ENDED UP PICKING A LOT OF THE RESTAURANTS.
SO THIS IS LIKE FROM, IF YOU COME OUT OF MAY'S TAVERN AND YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE STEPS, YOU'LL SEE IT'S STICKING UP OVER THE, THE FORMER
THEN WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE IT STICKING UP PRETTY PRETTY
UH, THIS IS THE HALL'S HOUSE, SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT PROBABLY THROUGH THE TREES.
WE LIGHT THROUGH THE TREES SO THEY'RE SOMEWHAT TRANSPARENT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT IT MM-HMM
PROBABLY WENT IN THE WINTERTIME.
SO IF WE GO AT COLLEGE AND WALNUT STREET RIGHT NEXT TO THE, TO TOM BROOKS PARK AND SCHOOL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IT STICKING UP OVER THERE.
AND ANY NEW TREES THAT THEY PLANT WOULD HELP ZOOM AROUND YOU HOP OUT OF DYERS AND WHERE THESE ARE FROM, IT'S, IT MAY NOT BE EXACTLY EVEN MIND, IT MAY BE UP WHETHER IT'S IN DEATH A LITTLE BIT.
SO YEAH, WE SHOULD, WE TALKED WITH MIKE CLARK ABOUT IT AND HE'S LIKE, WELL THERE'S ALSO A RACE SIDEWALK.
SO THERE, THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT POINTS THAT GO UP AND DOWN AROUND THE SQUARE.
WHAT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING TO ME WHEN I LOOK AT THAT RIGHT THERE IS IT'S FIVE STORIES BACK THERE.
AND THIS ILLUSTRATION IS SHOWING THAT ONLY TWO LEVELS ARE HIDDEN BY IMMENSE DEPTH AND TALL BUILT AND THE TWO STORY HEIGHT BUILDINGS.
PERSONALLY, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE AS MUCH AS WHAT THIS IS SHOWING.
JUST IF YOU SEE, I THINK SOMETHING ELSE THAT MAKES THAT THING LOOK TALLER IS IT'S COLORED.
SO IF YOU YEAH, IF THE OTHER EXISTING BUILDINGS WERE THE SAME COLOR, YOUR LAWYER, THEN IT WOULD
AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE SITE PLAN THAT THIS BUILDING AS, I DON'T THINK IT'S AS MUCH AS WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
I THINK THIS MIGHT ACTUALLY BE EXAGGERATING TO NEGATIVE FAVOR.
SO ONE THING I THINK IS NEEDS TO, AS YOU'RE GOING DOWN MAIN STREET, THE EXISTING OAK TREES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THE DENTAL OFFICE PRETTY MUCH OBSCURE THE, THE BUILDING.
YOU HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE ALLEYS.
THIS DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING WITH THE ALLEY, BUT THE ALLEYS OWNED BUY MULTIPLE PROPERTY OWNERS.
WELL THERE WAS TALK WHEN THEY, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GARAGE THAT MAYBE THAT WAS ALL GONNA GET UPDATED, BUT THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING.
'CAUSE IT'S GOT A LOT DOWN THE ROAD.
MAYBE IT'S GOT A LOT OF ATTENTION.
SOME OF THESE PARKING SPACES ARE WHERE THEY'RE STORAGE BUILDINGS.
IT'D BE NICE FOR ANY NEW TREES TO BE WHAT I CALL REAL TREES.
WE'RE GONNA TRY TO FIND SOMETHING THAT LOOK JUST LIKE THEY USED
JAMIE, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THIS? TO THE, FOR YOU FROM, FROM G.
I HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE FIRST FLOOR.
IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE, UH, SIMILAR TO OR RELATED TO THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
CAN WE GET TO THAT RENDERING? I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A BETTER YEAH, THAT'S IT.
BUT IT JUST, UH, I'M TRYING TO SEE HOW THE, HOW THAT ELEVATION FITS WITH WHAT ELSE WE GOT GOING ON RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
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WHAT'S INTERESTING IS IF YOU COMPARE IT TO THE ARMY SURPLUS, IT'S CLOSE.IF YOU GET AROUND TO THE SQUARE, IT'S LOW OFF DEALERSHIP ASHIP IN, IN THAT REGARD.
MR. COX, I, THE OTHER COMMENT I'VE, I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT AS I LOOK AT THIS, AND I THINK IT'S AN ATTRACTIVE BUILDING, BUT IT'S A STRAIGHT BUILDING.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THERE COULD BE SOME ARTICULATION.
BECAUSE TYPICALLY WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS ON THE SQUARE.
WE HAVE ARTICULATED, NOT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO MIMIC, BUT ARTICULATED SMALLER FORM.
AND IT'D BE REALLY EASY WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR, UM, BASE BASIN, HVAC OR BETWEEN EACH ROOM, YOU KNOW, THAT JUST RECESS AND, AND SO YOUR SIDE WASN'T CONTINUALLY STRAIGHT.
IT WOULD GIVE SOME DEPTHS TO IT.
THE SIDE LOOKING, I THINK IT'S SIMILAR, BUT THE SIDE, LOOKING AT THE, UH, ROOM TILE FIRST SILVER MONITOR UPSTAIRS.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT BENCH AND MAIN STREET THERE.
YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A POLISH OR STICKING OUT.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE AREAS RECESS.
SEE WE HADN'T, SO THIS IS, THIS IS THE MACKLEMORE'S DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, THIS IS GUS'S OLD BUILDING.
I, I HAVE A FEELING THAT'S A RENDERING, BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT'S SIMILAR IN STYLE AND STRUCTURE.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE BETTER IN REAL LIFE THAN, I MEAN I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK WE'VE APPROVED KIND OF THAT MODERN.
IT IS A NEW BUILDING ON THE FIRST FLOOR.
IT GETS TRADITIONAL AS WE GO BRICK UP.
UM, YOU REMEMBER I FLUSHED ABOUT THE OTHER
AND I SEE YOUR TOTALLY GET YOUR POINT.
THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE IS IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR COLOR RENDERING.
HAMPTON, I THINK THAT LOOKS LIKE YOU AND THAT LOOKS LIKE ME.
I, I'M PICKING ON LITTLE THINGS HERE, BUT, UH, JUST LIKE BILL MENTIONED THE STOREFRONTS, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR COLOR RENDERING,
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS OR THIS RABBIT RENDERING THE STAIR TOWER, THE PERPE WALL.
SEE THAT THERE LOOKS NOT TOO BAD, BUT IF YOU GO TO THIS RENDERING, THE SCALE OF THAT MM-HMM
PARAPET WALL IS RIDICULOUSLY TALL.
AND I I KNOW Y'ALL CAN PULL RIGHT THERE.
THAT, THAT'S JUST, YOU CAN PULL THAT DOWN.
AND I KNOW THIS IS PROBABLY ROUGH S SCHEMATICS, BUT JUST LITTLE THINGS.
THOSE ARE THINGS WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT.
LIKE SEE NEXT WE JUMPED AROUND.
DO YOU HAVE, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO ANYTHING OR WE JUST WANNA KEEP LOOKING? YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT SKYLINE.
I I, THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE NORTH SIDE, THE LESS YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE OPPOSITE BECAUSE THE OTHER BUILDINGS ARE TALLER.
SO I, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE PROJECT A LOT.
I DON'T WANT IT TO BE A, AN EYESORE, A HUGE MONOLITH DINOSAUR UP THERE.
BUT I REALLY DON'T REALLY DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE, I THINK IT'S KNOW THERE ARE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TALL THEY ARE, BUT THERE ARE TWO PARKING GARAGES IN, IN FRANKLIN BELIEVE IT IS.
AND IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU DON'T REALLY LOOK FOR 'EM, YOU JUST, THEY JUST KIND OF DISAPPEARED.
AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS IS GONNA BE.
WELL I THINK THE POSITIONING OF THIS TOO, IT'S GONNA SATISFY MORE OF THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE BACK BEHIND THERE.
'CAUSE THAT GARAGE WAS GONNA GO SO MUCH FURTHER BACK.
THAT'S, WELL, I MIGHT WANT MAKE ONE OBSERVATION.
THIS IS GONNA BE THE PREMIER PROJECT BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN VILLE.
WHY SHOULDN'T IT BE THE TALLEST? I MEAN, IT'S JUST, UH, IT SHOULD BE COMMON, BUT THE OTHER, WELL, TO DATE THAT'S TRUE.
KNOWING WHAT ELSE TO COME, YOU GOTTA START SOMEWHERE.
WELL, IF WE GET THIS, WE'LL GET SOME THAT'S RIGHT.
UM, FROM MY KNOWLEDGE AND, AND HISTORY AND HOTEL WORK, WHAT YOU SAID WAS, UH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY KNOWS YOU TRIED TO GET 120 KEYS STARTING POINT.
SO I WAS, I I FIGURED WHEN BEFORE WE LOOKED AT THIS, IT'D BE 120 THAT YOU'RE AT 112, I SHOULD KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
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LESS THAN THAT FINANCIAL.UH, SO IF WE, IF WE EVER WANT A HOTEL DOWNTOWN CARNIVAL, I'M HIGHLY SUPPORTIVE OF IT, JUST IN GENERAL.
BUT I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB AND I THINK IT'S A LOT OF SUBTLETIES THAT IT CAN BE, UH, ENHANCED TO BE EXCELLENT.
I THINK I'LL SAY ONE MORE LONG PARAGRAPH.
I THINK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YEAR MAIN STREET STARTED, BUT WAY LONG TIME AGO, MAIN STREET CAME TO COLLIERVILLE.
UH, THE SQUARE HAD BEEN REMODELED MAYBE AFTER THAT.
AND TO TRY TO, TO TRY TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES.
WE DID THE DOWNTOWN SMALL AREA PLAN TO GET MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN.
AND THAT'S WORKED AND IT'S HELPED.
ALL OF THAT IS TO MAKE WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE WANTS WORK.
AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GET $40 A SQUARE FOOT LIKE THEY'RE GETTING IN SOME LIKE SHILLINGS, GETTING ALL THAT.
SO IT, BUT TO STAY VIABLE AND TO STAY, UH, POPULAR WITH SHOP OWNERS, YOU GOTTA GET MORE PEOPLE DOWN HERE.
I THINK THIS HAS THE POTENTIAL OF BEING, UH, AFFECTING POSITIVE THE DOWNTOWN AS MUCH AS, AS THE INFIELD HOUSING IS DONE, MAYBE MORE.
WE TOOK A TOUR OF VILLE BROTHERS A MONTH OR SIX WEEKS AGO DOWN ON EAST PLAIN ROAD AND THE CEO TOOK US ON A LITTLE TOUR AND ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN ASKED, WHAT CAN KAI WILL DO FOR YOU THAT WOULD REALLY HELP YOUR BUSINESS? THE ONLY THING HE SAID IS, WE NEED AN UPSCALE HOTEL.
WE'VE GOT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD COMING HERE.
AND WHILE WHAT WE HAVE IS NOT BAD, IT'S ADEQUATE, YOU KNOW, BUT WE NEED AN UPSCALE HOTEL FOR THESE PEOPLE TO COME STAY IN CORPORATE TYPE PEOPLE.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY TELLING AND VERY INTERESTING.
SO IF WE CAN KIND OF GET HAPPY WITH THIS, I'M, I'M, UH, I'M IN FAVOR OF IT.
I THINK IT'S GONNA BE GREAT FOR, FOR COTTON.
THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF PUTTING THE SCALE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BOTTOM.
IT'S BALANCE BETWEEN THE THAT'S BETTER.
WHAT ABOUT THE STREET? THE, I KNOW WHEN YOU GET TO YOUR DETAILS, BUT THE SIDEWALK IS POLITICAL.
YOU COULD, BECAUSE RIGHT THERE IS THE WALKING PRO PROGRESSION FROM THERE DOWN TO THE REST OF THE SQUARE.
SO WHAT YOU DO IS GONNA BE VERY IMPORTANT TO MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO BE ON THAT SIDEWALK WALKING AND WALK TO, SO IT'S TIGHT.
IT'S IT TIGHT AND LOOKING AT IT AT THIS LOCATION, BUT WHEN YOU ACTUALLY SORT OF SET THE BUILDING IN THE SITE AND BUILD A SIDEWALK OUT TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND TO THE RIGHT OF WAY, ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE HERE ACTUALLY STARTED DOING DEVELOPMENT AND WE'VE MADE A, A SPECIFIC POINT OF PUTTING ACTIVATED USES THERE ON THE STREET AT THE FIRST FLOOR SO THAT THAT EXPERIENCE IS ENGAGING.
OH, THE WAY THAT'S RICHARD WIG.
SORRY, I DIDN'T FIGURED THE ARCHITECT PUT THIS TOGETHER.
WE FIGURED YOU WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT IS THERE LIKE CONFERENCE ROOM SPACE AND ALSO THE UH, SURPLUS AS WELL.
SO THE RESTAURANT OCCUPIES THAT SOUTHEAST OR THERE'S AN ENTRANCE TO THE HOTEL THAT ACTUALLY FRONTS ON MAIN STREET AND THEN ANOTHER ENTRANCE, THE OPPOSITE SIDE THAT HEADS UP TOWARDS THE PARKING, WHICH IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT.
WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT WHOLE, THAT LINKAGE BETWEEN THE FRONT AND BACK IS ONE MAKES, HELPS MAKE THAT HOTEL WORK AND STILL REMAIN IN THE STREET.
THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE SERIOUSLY, THAT'S A HUGE, OKAY.
IS THAT ALL Y'ALL HAVE? WE'LL JUST ASK, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? MISSIONERS, Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING MORE? NO, NO.
BILL, WHAT? YOU GOT NOTHING
I'LL MAKE, I'LL MAKE NO, NO, IT'S FINE BUDDY.
MY QUESTION WAS THE ARMY SURPLUS BUILDING AND THAT MAY BE THE WHOLE BUILDING.
I THOUGHT IT WAS A LITTLE DEEPER THAN WHAT THIS RHETORIC SHOW A CAN PART BACK THERE AND I THINK YEAH, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS, MAYBE IT WAS GONNA BE SO IF YOU REALLY GET CUT OFF A LITTLE SHORTER, BUT, BUT YOU DOWN WE TO LOOK AT IT, THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE THERE
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IN THE BLACK ROOF MM-HMMIS ALL THE SORT OF CONTRIBUTING, CONTRIBUTING PRODUCT FROM THE HISTORIC DISTRICT STANDPOINT.
AND THE REST OF THOSE ARE SMALLER AND LOWER QUALITY ADDITIONS.
UM, BUT, BUT, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PROPERTY, IS IT?