* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] OKAY, [1 Call to order] CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER. AND WE START WITH THE ROLL CALL PLEASE. BOARD MEMBER FRAZIER. HERE. BOARD MEMBER EXPERT HERE. MEMBER ANN. HERE. BOARD MEMBER FLOYD. HERE. TRAIL HERE. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. I THINK IT AND, UH, WE [3 Approval of Minutes] TALK ABOUT, UH, MAY'S MINUTES AND HAVE A VOTE. MOVE TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES. SECOND. HUH? MOTION TO ACCEPT THE MINUTES. YES. I SECOND IT. BOARD MEMBER FRAZIER? YES. BOARD MEMBER WILLIAMS? YES. MEMBER FLOYD? YES. BOARD MEMBER HUDSPETH? YES. AND CHAIRMAN LATRELL SUSTAIN. [4 Approval of Agenda (additions/deletions)] ALRIGHT. AND THEN, UH, AS FAR AS THIS EVENING'S AGENDA, ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT THERE WAS A CLERICAL ERROR WITH THE APPLICANT NAME. IT WAS PUBLISHED AS MARK WAGNER, BUT THE APPLICANT IS JAMES KELLY AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE BRENT AND AMY STONE. OKAY. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE ARE NO CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES. MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. I A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. SECOND BOARD MEMBER FRAZIER? YES. BOARD MEMBER WILLIAMS? YES. MEMBER? YES. BOARD MEMBER ? YES. YES. ? YES. ALL RIGHT. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY, UH, COMMENT CARDS FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS, BUT ARE THERE ANY CITIZEN COMMENTS OUT THERE? DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT, SO. ALL RIGHT. SO WITH [6.a Case #261636 - 1319 Bridgepointe Dr - Request approval of a Variance to allow an open air covered patio to extend two (2) feet into the required side yard] THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE, UH, FORMAL AGENDA. CASE NUMBER 2 6 1 6 3 6 3 19, BRIDGE POINT DRIVE. UH, THANK YOU CHAIR. UM, SO TONIGHT, UH, YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR A VARIANCE REQUEST. UM, THE APPLICANT IS MR. JAMES KELLY AS, UH, DON CUETA MENTIONED, AND THE PROPERTY OWNER ARE BRENT AND AMY STONE AND MR. STONE IS HERE TONIGHT. UM, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A VARIANCE THAT WOULD PERMIT A, UM, A OPEN AIR COVERED PATIO TO ENCROACH INTO THEIR SIDE YARD SETBACK. SO THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE PROPERTY AND WHERE THE PROPOSED PATIO WOULD BE, UH, IS ROUGHLY HERE. AND THIS JUST GIVES YOU, UM, A, YOU KNOW, FRONT FACING, UH, ELEVATION OF WHAT THAT OPEN AIR PATIO WOULD LOOK LIKE. AND SO THE REASON THAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT IS, UH, OUR, OUR CODE DOES ALLOW FOR PATIOS SUCH AS THIS TO ENCROACH INTO THE SIDE YARD SETBACK. RIGHT NOW, UH, THE SIDE YARD SETBACK IS 15 FEET. THE PATIO WOULD BE ALLOWED TO ENCROACH SIX FEET INTO THAT SIDE YARD SETBACK. THE APPLICANT, UH, HOWEVER, IS REQUESTING TO ENCROACH EIGHT FEET. SO THAT'S WHY THE VARIANCE REQUEST IS FOR THOSE ADDITIONAL TWO FEET. UH, SO I'LL QUICKLY DESCRIBE A LITTLE BIT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO, UM, THIS IS THIS REAR, THIS IS THE, THE PATIO ADDITION. THIS LIGHT DASH LINE SHOWS YOU THE 15 FOOT REQUIRED SETBACK. THE BOLD DASH LINE SHOWS YOU WHERE THE CODE ALLOWS THE ENCROACHMENT, THOSE SIX FEET, AND THEN THIS RED LINE SHOWS YOU WHERE THE APPLICANT IS, IS REQUESTING THE VARIANCE. IT'S FOR THESE TWO FEET RIGHT HERE. UM, THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, STATED THAT THERE IS A HARDSHIP. UM, UH, ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THE HARDSHIP IS THE, UH, WIDTH OF THE LOT. UM, THE LOT IS A HUNDRED FEET WIDE. UM, I WOULD SAY ROUGHLY HALF OF THE LOTS IN THIS SUBDIVISION ARE 150 FEET WIDE. SO THIS LOT IS 50 FEET MORE NARROW THAN THE LOTS IN THE REST OF THE SUBDIVISION. UM, BUT UH, A HUNDRED FEET IS THE MINIMUM STANDARD FOR R ONE. SO THAT DOES MEET OUR LOT WIDTH REQUIREMENTS. SO IT'S NOT, UM, IT DOES MEET OUR STANDARD FOR LOT WIDTH FOR THIS, UH, PARTICULAR ZONING DISTRICT. UM, AN ANOTHER ISSUE THAT THE APPLICANT STATES IS, UM, THE ANGLE WITH WHICH THIS WING OF THE HOUSE IS SITUATED IN RELATION TO THE PROPERTY LINE. UM, IF THIS WERE NOT AT A 45 DEGREE ANGLE, IF IT WERE AT, SAY A 90 DEGREE ANGLE, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THE ENTIRE SIZE OF THE PATIO THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING AND THEY WOULD NOT REQUIRE THE VARIANCE. SO THE HARDSHIP WOULD BE THE WIDTH [00:05:01] OF A HUNDRED FEET AND THEN THE 45 DEGREE ANGLE THAT, UM, THIS PARTICULAR WING SITS AT. UM, ANOTHER THING THAT THE APPLICANT, UM, REALLY WANTS TO PRESERVE IN ORDER TO KEEP THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THIS PATIO, THEY WANT IT TO SERVE AS AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN. AND THIS SEPARATION BETWEEN THE TWO, UM, COUNTER SPACES BEING SIX FEET, KEEPING THAT SIX FOOT SEPARATION IS REALLY, UM, IMPORTANT TO THE APPLICANT IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE FUNCTIONALITY OF THAT KITCHEN SPACE. UH, SO WHEN STAFF WAS LOOKING AT THE CRITERIA FOR VARIANCE, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND THAT THERE IS A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY. UM, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, CONSTRUCT AN OUTDOOR KITCHEN AS IT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED. IT WOULD JUST NEED TO BE SMALLER. UM, IT WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO ENCROACH THE SIX FEET, BUT THE ADDITIONAL TWO FEET, WE REALLY CAN'T FIND A HARDSHIP, UH, THAT WOULD JUSTIFY THOSE ADDITIONAL TWO FEET. UM, AGAIN, IF THE, UM, IF THE PATIO WERE TO, UM, BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER, UM, A LITTLE BIT SMALLER IN ITS DEPTH AND NOT NEED THAT TWO FEET, THEY, THE, THE APPLICANT WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN, UM, THIS SIX FOOT SEPARATION BETWEEN THE COUNTER SPACES. SO WE DON'T SEE, UM, REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO MEET THE SETBACK, THEY WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE A FUNCTIONAL OUTDOOR KITCHEN SPACE. UH, SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING, UM, DENIAL, UM, OF THIS VARIANCE REQUEST. AGAIN, WE COULDN'T REALLY FIND A HARDSHIP OR A PRACTICAL DIFFICULTY THAT WOULD DEPRIVE A REASONABLE USE OF THE LAND. UM, HOWEVER, THERE IS A PROPOSED MOTION ON YOUR SCREEN. UH, BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, THERE IS A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, BASED ON THESE SIX CONDITIONS. UM, UH, THE APPLICANT IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE CONDITIONS AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ALLISON, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY LOTS ON THAT STREET ARE OF COMPARABLE WITH? YEAH. UM, Y YES, THERE ARE. I MEAN, A 50 FOOT DIFFERENCE IS PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL. YES. SO IT ROUGHLY GOES, UM, THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO OTHER LOTS THAT BACK UP TO BRACE STATION, UH, THAT HAVE A HUNDRED FOOT LOT WIDTH. UM, BUT THE, IT IS TRUE, THE MAJORITY OF THE LOTS THAT BACK UP TO BRAY STATION, UM, IN THIS SUBDIVISION DO HAVE A LOT WIDTH OF 150 FEET. SO IT IS, IT IS MORE NARROW, UM, THAN THE MAJORITY OF ITS SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS. UH, BUT A HUNDRED FEET WIDE IS THE STANDARD FOR AN R ONE LOT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. AND, UH, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND SAY ANYTHING? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YEAH, BRETT STONE, 1319 BRIDGEPOINT DRIVE. SO, NO, ALLISON SAID IT PERFECTLY. WE, WE JUST FEEL LIKE THERE'S A HARDSHIP THERE FOR THE DEPTH, UH, WITHOUT THE VARIANCE. WE'RE AT ABOUT THREE FEET BETWEEN THE COOKERS AND THEN THE BAR AREA WE EAT. SO WE'RE JUST LOOKING TO GET THAT SIX FOOT DEPTH OF WHAT WE FELT LIKE WOULD BE A MINIMUM USABLE SPACE. UH, IN TERMS OF DISCOMFORT BEING ABLE TO TURN AROUND THREE FEET. I'M A BIG GUY SO IT'S NOT, NOT, UH, EASY TO TURN AROUND AND MANEUVER INSIDE THAT IF YOU'RE COOKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT WAS THE REASON FOR IT. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR. ALL THANKS. ALRIGHT, UH, SOMEONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST OF THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW AN OPEN AIR PATIO TO EXTEND TWO FEET INTO THE REQUIRED SIDE YARD SUBJECT TO THE SIX CONDITIONS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. DISCUSSION. SO, UM, THE CLOSEST, UH, THE, THE STRUCTURE COULD BE TO THE SIDE YARD IS THREE FEET, RIGHT? THREE AND A HALF, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. THREE AND A FEET. MM-HMM. SO WE, WE, WE ARE PRETTY CLOSE. WE WE'RE PRETTY FAR AWAY FROM THAT. SO WE, WE IN GOOD CONDITION THERE. [00:10:01] SO, UH, AND WE TALKED, WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT TWO FEET MORE THAN, UH, THE STANDARD, RIGHT? SO IF THAT'S THE, UH, THE SITUATION THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT, I'M, I'M MORE, UH, APT TO SAY YES TO, TO THE VARIANCE WHEN IT COMES TO HARDSHIP. AND WE'RE, THE HARDSHIP THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS SAYING THAT THE LOT'S SMALLER. I MEAN, THAT'S PRETTY COMMON. THAT LOTS CAN VARY. I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO BUILD A DIFFERENT SIZE HOUSE BASED ON A LOT SIZE. SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THE LOT SIZE WOULD FACTOR INTO THAT TO, TO BEING A HARDSHIP. SO I I HAVE HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING A HARDSHIP IN THIS SITUATION. QUESTION FOR STAFF. SURE. CAN I STILL ASK THAT WAS THE, THE 45, UM, DEGREE ORIENTATION OF THE WING, WAS THAT ORIGINAL OR WAS THAT IN ADDITION? THAT WAS ORIGINAL TO THE HOUSE. IT WAS ORIGINAL MM-HMM . UH, STAFF. SO DO YOU CONSIDER THE DEGREE OF THAT WING TO BE A HARDSHIP? WAS THE WING ADDED AT THAT DEGREE? WHEN WE THINK OF A, A HARDSHIP, IT'S USUALLY SOMETHING WITH THE LAND PHYSICAL WITH THE, THE MAYBE THE LOT SHAPE, HAVING A DOUBLE FRONTAGE OR REVERSE FRONTAGE OR TOPOGRAPHY ISSUES. UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT A PHYSICAL HARDSHIP IS. SO WAS THAT WING BUILT BECAUSE OF SOME TYPE OF TYPOGRAPHICAL HARDSHIP ORIGINALLY? I DON'T THINK SO. IS IT, IT IS ORIGINAL TO THE HOUSE, RIGHT? I'M NOT SURE. YEAH, PRE IT PREDATES ME UNFORTUNATELY. I'VE GOT ROOM TO ASK. WERE THERE ANY ALTERNATIVE DESIGNS CONSIDERED THAT COULD GET YOU OUT OF THIS TWO FOOT ENCROACHMENT ON THE SIX FOOT THAT YEAH, WE, WE'VE LOOKED AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT OPTIONS. UH, ONE WOULD BE TO TURN IT BACK 45 DEGREES ALONG THE EDGE, WHICH IS DOABLE. UM, DON'T REALLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT'S GONNA LOOK HONESTLY, BUT, UH, THAT IS AN OPTION. WE DID LOOK AT THAT AND WE'RE ACTUALLY HAVING HIM DRAW THAT UP SO I CAN SEE THE RENDERING OF IT. SO I HAVEN'T SEEN IT. THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THAT WOULD KEEP US OUT OF ANY VARIANCE REQUEST. SO ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? WOULD, WOULD THIS TWO, TWO FEET CAUSE ANY KIND OF, UH, WIND OR SHADE OR, OR VISION PROBLEMS TO THE NEIGHBORS? UH, MR. FLOYD? WE STAFF DOESN'T BELIEVE SO. UM, AGAIN, E EVEN, UH, WITH THE ADDITIONAL TWO FEET AS IT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED, IT WOULD BE SEVEN FEET AWAY FROM THE SIDE LOT LINE. UM, THERE'S CURRENTLY QUITE A BIT OF TALL VEGETATION SEPARATING THESE TWO PROPERTIES BUILT ON THE APPLICANT'S LOT. UM, THE APPLICANT HAS STATED TO STAFF THAT HE IS COMMITTED TO SAVING, UM, THE LARGEST TREE THERE. IT'S IN REALLY GOOD SHAPE. UM, SOME OF THE OTHER VEGETATION THAT'S SORT OF GROWING UP ALONG THE FENCE, UM, IT DOESN'T LOOK GREAT. SO, UM, AND BRENT PLEASE CORRECT ME IF, IF I MISHEARD YOU, BUT I DO BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE SOME OF THAT. SO THERE WOULD BE A LANDSCAPED, UM, VISUAL SCREENING WOULDN'T COMPLETELY SCREEN IT, BUT UM, THERE WOULD BE SOME SOFTENING WITH THE LANDSCAPE. YES. OKAY, THANK YOU. CAN YOU BRING UP A, I THINK WE GOT A PICTURE WHERE YOU SHADED IN THE LITTLE CORNER THAT WAS EXTENDING THE TWO FEET. CAN YOU BRING THAT PICTURE BACK UP ON THE YEAH, RIGHT THERE. SO WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, REMIND ME AGAIN. YES. SO THE VARIANCE IS FOR THAT, THAT CORNER CORRECT. ADDITIONAL . YEAH. AND THERE'S NO ISSUES. THIS IS COVERED. CORRECT. SO THERE'S NO ISSUES AS FAR AS THE, THE ROOF PART OF IT BEING TOO HIGH OR EXTENDING TOO CLOSE TO THE NEXT HOUSE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? Y YOU KNOW, UH, SO BECAUSE THIS IS NOT, UH, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE BUILDING PERMIT STAGE MM-HMM . WE REALLY HAVEN'T HAD THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT LOOK AT IT. BUT I DID HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH THEM AND NOTHING STOOD OUT TO THEM AS BEING, UM, AN ISSUE. AND, UH, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S ON A BUILDING PERMIT, WE DON'T HAVE, UM, A FULL SET OF DRAWINGS. BUT BASED ON THE DRAWINGS THAT WE DO HAVE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE STRUCTURE WOULD [00:15:01] BE ROUGHLY 16 FEET IN HEIGHT. OKAY. ANY OTHER, UH, DISCUSSION? I THINK MY MAIN CONCERN IS I'M NOT A GIANT FAN OF THE WAY THE CODE'S WRITTEN ANYWAYS, ALLOWING THE ENCROACHMENT. AND I KNOW THAT THE NEIGHBOR TO THE SOUTH AND THE HOA ARE OKAY WITH THIS, BUT I 50%, YEAH, IT'S JUST ANOTHER TWO FEET. THE OTHER 50% IF WE DO THIS NOW AND YOU SET A TONE FOR OTHER BUILDERS POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GOING TO START SEEING MORE OF THESE CLOSER AND CLOSER? UM, JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT MM-HMM . FOR, FOR ME TO PROVE THIS, WE HAVE TO HAVE A HARDSHIP AND IT'S, I FIND IT VERY HARD TO FIND A HARDSHIP 'CAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE LIGHT, WHICH CAN VARY, YOU KNOW? AND IF YOU GOING ALONG WITH WHAT YOU SAY, IF WE MAKE AN EXCEPTION HERE, THEN IS SOMEONE GONNA WANNA PUT A HOUSE TOO BIG ON A SMALLER LIGHT? YOU KNOW? AND WHERE, WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE? UH, YOU KNOW, IT, IT LOOKED LIKE THERE'S POSSIBILITIES FOR SOME CHANGES. UH, THEY MAY NOT BE WITH THE MOST IDEAL, BUT YOU CAN STILL HAVE AN OUTSOURCED KITCHEN WITH, YOU KNOW, ASPECT, WHETHER IT BE SHORTEN THE WIDTH OR, UH, I KNOW THE, I UNDERSTAND THE HARDSHIP, THE, THE CONCERN OF WANTING THE SIX FOOT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT BRINGS IN THAT HARDSHIP TO JUSTIFY THE, THE, THE QUESTION I I WOULD ASK, UH, DID THE APPLICANT PURCHASE THE HOUSE BEFORE THESE PLANS WERE, UH, PRESENTED OR APPROVED? UH, WOULD BE CONSIDERED A HARDSHIP? 'CAUSE HE DIDN'T HAVE, HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH, UH, THE PLAN'S PRE, UH, BUILDING OF IT. NOW THAT HE HAS HAS POSSESSION OF THE HOUSE, HE HAS NO WAY OF MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO, UH, THE WAY THE HOUSE WAS BUILT SOMEHOW THAT, THAT TO ME SEEMS TO BE A HARDSHIP BECAUSE HE DIDN'T CAUSE IT TO BE BUILT THIS WAY. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A STRETCH. UM, BECAUSE IT'S, WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AND, UH, I MEAN THAT I I UNDERSTAND WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING TWO FEET, BUT THEN I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE HARDSHIP. SO, UM, I THINK THE VOTE KIND OF REALLY COMES DOWN TO, IN MY MIND, IF WE SAY YES OR WE JUST SAYING YES 'CAUSE IT'S ONLY TWO FEET AND EVERYONE ELSE IS OKAY WITH IT, ARE WE GONNA SAY NO? BECAUSE WHEN IT REALLY GETS DOWN TO IT, THERE'S NO TRUE HARDSHIP. AND I, AND I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT IT GETS TO. UM, LET ME ASK YOU THIS. WHAT, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE THEN? THE BETWEEN A LOT? THAT'S ALY, THAT'S AWKWARD. THE, THE SAME THING, UH, HAPPENS TO THE, TO THE APPLICANT. HE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LOT BEING UNUSUALLY, UH, SHAPED. I KNOW THIS IS A HOUSE OR ADDITION, BUT IT'S, IT'S THE SAME SORT OF STUFF WHERE WHEN, WHEN A, A LOT IS, UM, A SKEWED LOT. YEAH. IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S UNUSUALLY SHAPED. I THINK IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A FENCE OR SOMETHING, MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE OKAY, BUT BECAUSE IT'S A, A PERMANENT STRUCTURE THAT'S BEING SPLICED INTO THE HOUSE. OKAY. THAT'S WHAT MIGHT, IN MY OPINION, IT WOULD CHANGE THE CONVERSATION. OKAY. UH, JUST A QUESTION. YEAH. YEAH. BUT THAT IS A GOOD, THAT'S A GOOD POINT. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, LET'S HAVE A VOTE. OF MEMBER FLOYD. YES. OF MEMBER FRAZIER? YES. OF MEMBER ? NO. OF MEMBER WILLIAMS? NO. CHAIRMAN? NO. OKAY. LET'S GET WITH THE STAFF, SIR, AND UH, THEY'LL HELP YOU OUT. MOVE ON MAYBE WITH THE NEXT PLAN, SIR. [7 Announcements] [00:20:03] ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS REQUIRED? STATE, UH, STATE TRAINING, UM, IS DUE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR FOR THE PC AND BCA. THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN EMAIL JAMIE SENT OUT LAST MONTH WITH A COUPLE LINKS FOR TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES. AND I'M GIVING YOU A QUICK UPDATE ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE HAVE SOME EVENTS COMING UP ONE THIS WEEKEND AT THE FOOTBALL GAME AT CARVILLE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAME. THERE'S A COMP PLAN ACTIVITY ON SUNDAY. IT'S A STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING ON THE 24TH. AND THERE'S ALSO A BMA WORK SESSION THAT SAME DAY. AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING, UM, SEPTEMBER 1ST AND FOR NEXT MONTH'S BZA, THERE ARE NO ITEMS AT THIS POINT, BUT THE DEADLINE IS AUGUST 25TH, WHICH IS NEXT TUESDAY. AND THAT'S ALL MY ANNOUNCEMENTS. ALRIGHT, MEETING AND TURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.