[1. CALL TO ORDER & INVOCATION]
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BOARD OF MAYOR AND ALDERMEN MEETING FOR MONDAY, AUGUST 17TH, 2026. TO ORDER. PLEASE AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. OUR FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS AN INVOCATION, AND WE HAVE CHAPLAIN TERRY HUNT WITH US THIS EVENING. AND ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK PROBABLY THE YOUNGEST RESIDENT IN THE ROOM, MR. COLIN ROBBINS, TO COME FORWARD AND LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. SO, PASTOR HUNT, IF YOU CAN, PLEASE RISE. HEAVENLY FATHER, TONIGHT WE COME BEFORE YOU IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, AND WE'RE ASKING YOU TO BRING PEACE AND WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING TO THIS MAYOR AND BOARD OF MEETING TONIGHT IN ALL DECISION MAKINGS. LORD, YOUR WORD SAYS, BLESSED ARE THE PEACEMAKERS, FOR THEY SHALL BE CALLED THE CHILDREN OF GOD. GIVE OUR LEADERS WISDOM TONIGHT BEYOND THEIR UNDERSTANDING.
HELP THEM TO LISTEN BEFORE THEY SPEAK. LORD, I ASK YOU TO HELP THEM TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS AS WE LEAD OUR TOWN WITH THE GREAT WAY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN LED. BUT LORD, TONIGHT WE ASK YOU TO HELP US, LORD, WITH HUMILITY AND FAIRNESS AND INTEGRITY. REMOVE ANY ANGER, BITTERNESS, PRIDE, CONFUSION, OR DIVISION. LORD, LET US HAVE CONVERSATION THAT WILL BE GUIDED BY YOU, LORD, AND RESPECT AND GENUINE DESIRES TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THIS COMMUNITY. GIVE OUR MAYOR AND OUR STRENGTH TONIGHT COURAGE TO LEAD AND EACH ALDERMAN WITH WISDOM TO FULFILL THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT WE HAVE TOGETHER TONIGHT. BRING UNITY WHERE THERE IS DISAGREEMENT AND RECONCILIATION. WHERE THERE HAS BEEN OFFENSE. FATHER, WE ASK YOU TONIGHT TO PROTECT OUR CITY FROM DIVISION AND STRIFE. LORD, WE ASK YOU TO LET US LEAD WITH PEACE AND RULE OUR HEARTS WITH THOSE MAKING DECISIONS TONIGHT. GOD, SURROUND THEM WITH GODLY COUNSEL. HELP THEM TO REMEMBER THAT THEIR AUTHORITY IS A RESPONSIBILITY ENTRUSTED TO THEM. BUT MOST OF ALL, LORD, LET US ALL TONIGHT IN THIS ROOM, GOD, LET YOUR WILL BE DONE IN OUR LIVES. FOR WHERE ENVY AND STRIFE IS, THERE IS CONFUSION. BUT LORD, I ASK YOU TO LEAD AND GUIDE US LORD, TONIGHT. THAT ANYTHING, LORD, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU WILL BE REPLACED GOD WITH CLARITY AND AND LORD PEACE AND AND NOT DIVISION, BUT UNITY FOR THIS TOWN. WE PRAY FOR THE LEADERS THAT WE WOULD HONOR TONIGHT, THAT YOU LEAD AND GUIDE THEM WITH THEIR WORDS AND ACTION IN ALL THEIR DECISIONS. IN THE WONDERFUL NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, WE PRAISE YOU. AMEN.
AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS ALSO TO CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. MR. HALL HERE, MR. JORDAN HERE, MISS MARSHALL HERE, MR. STAMPS HERE, MR. ROBBINS HERE. THANK YOU.
[4. APPROVAL OF AGENDA (Additions/Deletions)]
THE NEXT ITEM IS APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA. MISS MANER, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES? ADDITIONS, DELETIONS TO OUR AGENDA THIS EVENING, MAYOR. NO CHANGES OR DELETIONS. I JUST WANT TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO A REVISED BOARD REPORT FOR ITEM EIGHT F ON THE CARDIAC MONITOR.DEFIBRILLATORS. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA WITH THE INCLUSION OF A REVISED BOARD REPORT FOR NINE E MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MISS DIAMOND, IF YOU'LL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. JORDAN. YES, MISS MARSHALL? YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. ROBBINS. YES. MR. HALL. YES. MAYOR FRAZIER. YES. THE
[5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA HAS BEEN APPROVED. THE NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM JULY 27TH, 2026. IT WAS A JOINT WORK SESSION WITH THE COLLIERVILLE SCHOOL BOARD AND THE BOARD OF MAYOR AND ALDERMEN. IF EVERYONE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES, ARE THERE ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS? SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION, PLEASE? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MISS DIAMOND, IF YOU'LL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MISS MARSHALL. YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. ROBBINS. YES. MR. HALL. YES.MR. JORDAN. YES. MAYOR FRAZIER. YES. THOSE MINUTES HAVE BEEN APPROVED, AND THE NEXT MINUTES WERE FROM THE BOARD OF MAYOR AND ALDERMEN MEETING ON JULY 27TH. EVERYONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THOSE MINUTES. ANY CHANGES OR CORRECTIONS? SEEING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION, PLEASE? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MISS DIAMOND, IF YOU'LL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. MR. STAMPS? YES. MR. ROBBINS. YES. MR. HALL. YES. MR. JORDAN. YES. MISS.
MARSHALL. YES. MAYOR FRAZIER. YES. THOSE MINUTES ARE APPROVED. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS A SPECIAL PRESENTATION. ARE THERE ANY PRESENTATIONS THIS EVENING? NONE THIS EVENING, MAYOR. THIS
[7. CITIZENS COMMENTS]
EVENING. OKAY. WE WILL MOVE TO CITIZEN COMMENTS. JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL COMMENT CARDS. MANY OF THEM ARE FOR THE AGENDA ITEM TEN A, WHICH IS PERTAINING TO THE E-BIKE DISCUSSION. THERE ARE THREE THAT I HAVE RECEIVED PRIOR TO THE MEETING THAT ARE GENERAL COMMENTS. LET ME SEE IF THERE ARE ANY MORE. WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, I'M GOING TO GO[00:05:09]
OVER A FEW RULES. THE FIRST THING IS, IS THAT WE TREAT EVERYONE WITH RESPECT IN THIS ROOM. THERE'S NO CHEERING, THERE'S NO JEERING, THERE'S NO CLAPPING BECAUSE WE ALL ARE PROFESSIONALS AND WE ALL SERVICE THE TOWN IN OUR BEST OF OUR ABILITY. AND LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT HERE, OKAY? WHEN I SAY YOUR NAME, YOU'LL COME TO THE FRONT AND YOU'LL HAVE TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE. THE MEETING IS TELEVISED AND LIVE STREAMED, SO MAKE SURE YOU TALK INTO THE MICROPHONE. ADJUST THE MICROPHONE SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.AND EACH INDIVIDUAL IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. AS YOU BEGIN TO SPEAK, YOU'LL SEE A GREEN LIGHT. THAT MEANS YOU ARE SET TO GO. WHEN YOU SEE YELLOW, IT MEANS YOU HAVE 30S. YOU NEED TO START WRAPPING UP YOUR COMMENTS AND CITIZEN COMMENTS. IT'S NOT A TWO WAY CONVERSATION. WE'RE HERE TO LISTEN TO YOU. THERE'S SIX OF US HERE. WE HEAR THE SAME MESSAGE AT THAT TIME. SO I DON'T HAVE THE CARDS IN ANY SPECIFIC ORDER. SO I WILL START WITH THE FIRST CARD THAT I RECEIVED. AND THAT WAS FOR TINA LYNN JONES. MISS JONES, YOU'RE DONATING YOUR TIME, OKAY. AND YOU'RE DONATING YOUR TIME TO MISTER JAMES ALLEN JONES. OKAY. MR. ALLEN, JAMES ALLEN JONES, IF YOU'LL COME TO THE FRONT, PLEASE. YOU DO HAVE UP TO SIX MINUTES IF YOU NEED UP TO SIX MINUTES. AND IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. WELL, I DON'T WANT TO KNOCK THIS OFF. I GOT TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF ROOM, SO JUST PARDON ME IF I DON'T TELL YOU WHAT I THINK. THE CHANNEL 13 MICROPHONE HAS. THERE WE GO. OKAY. I'M. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.
BUT WAIT, I GOTTA HAVE THIS TABLE RIGHT HERE. YOU WANT TO ADJUST THAT MICROPHONE, MR. JONES? YOU'RE WELCOME TO. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, TOWN ADMINISTRATOR, AND CITIZENS OF CARNIVAL. MY NAME IS ALAN JONES. I AM A RETIRED FIRE BATTALION CHIEF AND PARAMEDIC FOR GERMANTOWN PARAMEDIC WITH 42 YEARS SERVICE FOR THE GERMANTOWN FIRE DEPARTMENT. CAN YOU PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS, PLEASE? EXCUSE ME. YOUR ADDRESS? 134 BANCROFT AVENUE, CARNIVAL 38017. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. AS I SAID, I'M A RETIRED FIRE BATTALION CHIEF AND PARAMEDIC WITH 42 YEARS SERVICE FOR GERMANTOWN FIRE DEPARTMENT. I'VE WORKED CLOSELY WITH CARNIVAL FIRE THROUGHOUT MY CAREER ALONGSIDE CHIEF JOHN SELBERG FOR MOST OF THOSE YEARS.
THERE ARE TIMES WHEN SOLIDS CAN BE MISTAKEN FOR INDIFFERENCE, AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TIMES IN THE FIRE SERVICE. LEADERSHIP IS DEFINED BY TRUST, CHARACTER, ACCOUNTABILITY, DEPENDABILITY AND THE WILLINGNESS TO STAND BEHIND YOUR PEOPLE. I'VE OBSERVED THOSE TRAITS AND QUALITIES IN JOHN SELBERG. JOHN STARTED HIS FIRE SERVICE CAREER IN 1977 AND ROSE TO THE RANKS TO CHIEF OF THE DEPARTMENT, AND SERVED 11 YEARS IN THAT CAPACITY AS WELL AS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR. HE HOLDS A BACHELOR'S AND MASTER'S DEGREE IN BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND COMPLETED THE NATIONAL FIRE ACADEMY EXECUTIVE FIRE OFFICER PROGRAM. HE INITIALLY IN COORDINATION WITH MEMPHIS FIRE DEPARTMENT, WORKED TIRELESSLY TO FORM THE PRESENT FEMA TENNESSEE URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE TASK FORCE. ONE TEAM PRESENTLY BASED IN MEMPHIS. HE ALSO SERVED AS ONE OF FEMA'S TASK FORCE LEADERS DURING THE NINE OVER 11 DEPLOYMENT TO THE PENTAGON AND DEPLOYMENTS TO OTHER MAJOR DISASTERS, INCLUDING HURRICANE KATRINA. HE HAS SERVED AS PRESIDENT OF THE TENNESSEE FIRE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION AND RECEIVED THE GOVERNOR'S FIRST RESPONDER AWARD IN 2022. THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY APPOINTED JOHN AS FIRE CHIEF. THE FORMER TOWN ADMINISTRATOR, JAMES WHELAN, DESCRIBED HIM AS ONE OF TENNESSEE'S MOST RESPECTED FIRE SERVICE LEADERS. THAT REPUTATION WAS EARNED OVER DECADES. I RECOGNIZE THE TOWN'S ADMINISTRATOR HAS PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT ADMINISTRATIVE AUTHORITY MUST BE EXERCISED WITH ACCOUNTABILITY, CONSISTENCY, TRANSPARENCY AND DUE PROCESS. IF LEGITIMATE ALLEGATIONS EXIST, INVESTIGATE THEM FULLY AND FAIRLY. DECISIONS AFFECT A DEPARTMENT HEAD MUST BE BASED ON DOCUMENTED FACTS, ESTABLISHED POLICY AND PROPORTIONAL RESPONSE, NOT RUMOR, HEARSAY, PERSONAL CONFLICTS OR INTERNAL DISAGREEMENT. UNDER THE TOWN CHARTER, TERMINATION OF A DEPARTMENT HEAD ULTIMATELY REQUIRES ACTION BY THE BOARD THAT GIVES EACH OF YOU THE OBLIGATION TO INDEPENDENTLY EXAMINE THE FACTS. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT WHAT BEGAN AS A PERSONAL MATTER BETWEEN CHIEF SELBERG AND THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR INVOLVED A DISAGREEMENT OVER PROPOSED CHANGES THAT WOULD HAVE LOWERED HIRING STANDARDS WITHIN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS FOLLOWED SHORTLY THEREAFTER, PLACING CHIEF
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SELBERG ON A STRICT ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE, WITH ZERO CONTACT WITH SENIOR FIRE MANAGEMENT OR FRONTLINE STAFF. THIS ACTION SHORTLY THEREAFTER WAS FOLLOWED BY SUFFICIENT ALDERMAN VOTES WERE ALREADY EXISTED TO SUPPORT HIS TERMINATION. I HOPE THAT IS NOT THE CASE AND IF ACCURATE, I BELIEVE THIS SEQUENCE OF EVENTS RAISES SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT TRANSPARENCY BORDERING ON INTIMIDATION, AND WHETHER THE CURRENT PROCESS IS BEING ALLOWED TO REACH A TRULY INDEPENDENT AND IMPARTIAL CONCLUSION. I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE BOARD TO REVIEW THE DOCUMENTATION, ENSURE POLICIES HAVE BEEN APPLIED CONSISTENTLY, SEPARATE VERIFIED FACTS FROM HEARSAY, AND MAKE CERTAIN THAT ANY RESPONSE IS FAIR AND PROPORTIONAL. I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO PREJUDGE THIS MATTER. AND JOHN SELBERG FAVOR. I AM ASKING YOU NOT TO PREJUDGE IT AGAINST HIM. THE FIRE SERVICE HAS A CHAIN OF COMMAND FOR A REASON. COMPLAINTS SHOULD MOVE THROUGH THE ESTABLISHED SUPERVISORY CHANNELS, SO THE CHIEF HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THEM BEFORE THEY REACH ADMINISTRATIVE CONCLUSIONS.CIRCUMVENTING THAT PROCESS UNDERMINES ACCOUNTABILITY AND THE FAIRNESS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. AFTER 42 YEARS IN THE FIRE SERVICE, I CAN TELL YOU, JOHN SELBERG'S, AMONG A SMALL NUMBER OF LEADERS I'VE ENCOUNTERED WHO POSSESS COMBINED OPERATIONAL EXPERIENCE, INTEGRITY, AND GENUINE CONCERN FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HE SERVES, LET THE FACTS, NOT PRESSURE PERSONALITIES OR SPECULATION, DETERMINE THAT OUTCOME. CHIEF SELBERG, HIS FAMILY, MEMBERS OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND THOSE IN THIS ROOM TODAY DESERVE NOTHING LESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND GODSPEED. THANK YOU, MR. JONES. WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. IF IF I DO, AM I ABLE TO SAY SOMETHING? I'LL ASK THE ATTORNEY. NATHAN, CAN I HAVE CAN I HAVE A REBUTTAL? POSSIBLY. NO. OH, ALL I WANT TO SAY I'M NOT GOING TO REBUT ANYTHING MR. JONES SAID. I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF HEARSAY OUT THERE. I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF A LOT OF THINGS THAT ARE NOT TRUE. SO PLEASE, I'M JUST BEGGING YOU ALL DON'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU READ ON SOCIAL MEDIA. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A HR DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME. SO A LOT OF IT WE CANNOT SHARE. BUT I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT I REQUESTED THE STANDARDS TO BE LOWERED. AND THAT IS NOT TRUE AT ALL. SO AGAIN, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ALL PLEASE DON'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU SEE ON SOCIAL MEDIA. AND THAT'S MY STATEMENT.
AND I HOPE THAT'S LEGAL. IF NOT, I'M IN TROUBLE. BUT WE WILL GO TO THE NEXT COMMENT. THANK YOU, MR. JONES. THE NEXT COMMENT CARD IS JUSTIN JOHNSON, MR. JOHNSON. YOU COULD AGAIN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD. WE TURN THAT ON. JUSTIN JOHNSON, 1037 MOOREVILLE ROAD, COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN, TOWN ADMINISTRATION AND FELLOW RESIDENTS. MY NAME IS JUSTIN JOHNSON. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I'M HERE BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE NEED TO SLOW DOWN, LISTEN TO OUR COMMUNITY AND CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH FIRE CHIEF JOHN SJOBERG. THERE ARE A LOT OF RUMORS CIRCULATING RIGHT NOW, AND I'M NOT HERE TONIGHT TO REPEAT RUMORS OR MAKE ACCUSATIONS THAT I CANNOT PERSONALLY PROVE. I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO KNOW. JOHN SJOBERG HAS DEDICATED NEARLY FIVE DECADES OF HIS LIFE TO THE FIRE SERVICE. BEFORE COMING TO COLLIERVILLE, HE SERVED IN NUMEROUS POSITIONS THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER, INCLUDING FIREFIGHTER, PARAMEDIC, LIEUTENANT, BATTALION CHIEF, FIRE MARSHAL, ASSISTANT FIRE CHIEF, FIRE CHIEF AND EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR. AND IN 2022, THIS TOWN SELECTED JOHN SURBER TO LEAD THE COLLIERVILLE FIRE AND RESCUE. THAT EXPERIENCE MATTERS. RIGHT NOW, CHIEF SJOBERG IS ON ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE BECAUSE OF THE BECAUSE OF WHAT THE TOWN HAS DESCRIBED PUBLICLY AS A PERSONAL MATTER. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE LIMITS ON WHAT OUR TOWN CAN LEGALLY DISCUSS REGARDING PERSONAL ISSUES. I RESPECT THAT, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THE LEVEL OF CONCERN WE'RE SEEING THROUGHOUT COLLIERVILLE SHOULD TELL OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS SOMETHING PEOPLE CARE ABOUT THIS FIRE DEPARTMENT AND PEOPLE HAVE CONFIDENCE IN CHIEF SJOBERG.
WHEN RESIDENTS BEGAN ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP OF ONE OF OUR MOST IMPORTANT PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENTS, THOSE CONCERNS DESERVE TO BE HEARD. THIS SHOULD NOT BECOME POLITICAL, IT SHOULDN'T BECOME PERSONAL, AND IT SHOULDN'T BECOME ABOUT CHOOSING SIDES. IT
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SHOULD BE ABOUT ONE QUESTION WHAT IS THE BEST FOR THE PEOPLE OF COLLIERVILLE AND THE MEN AND WOMEN OF COLLIERVILLE FIRE AND RESCUE, WHATEVER DISAGREEMENTS MAY EXIST BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, I HOPE EVERYONE INVOLVED WILL WORK TOWARD A FAIR RESOLUTION. I ALSO HOPE WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE STANDARDS FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND OUR FIRST RESPONDERS. WHEN OUR FAMILIES CALL 911, WE EXPECT QUALIFIED, TRAINED PROFESSIONALS TO ANSWER THAT CALL. THOSE STANDARDS MATTER. EXPERIENCE MATTERS, LEADERSHIP MATTERS, AND PUBLIC CONFIDENCE MATTERS. SO TONIGHT, I'M NOT ASKING THIS BOARD TO IGNORE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS. IF LEGITIMATE CONCERNS EXIST. I'M ASKING YOU TO LISTEN. LISTEN TO CHIEF SELBERG. LISTEN TO OUR FIREFIGHTERS. LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS FILLING THIS ROOM AND CONTACTING THEIR ELECTED ELECTED OFFICIALS. AND BEFORE MAKING A DECISION THAT COULD PERMANENTLY CHANGE THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, MAKE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN THAT DECISION IS NECESSARY, FAIR, AND THAT THE BEST INTERESTS OF COLLIERVILLE. THERE MAY BE THINGS THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW, BUT BASED ON WHAT WE DO KNOW, I BELIEVE CHIEF SJOBERG HAS EARNED THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE SERVING THIS COMMUNITY. LET'S FIND A WAY FORWARD THAT PROTECTS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, MAINTAINS OUR STANDARDS AND KEEPS THE TRUST OF THE PEOPLE OF COLLIERVILLE.THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS. THANK YOU, MR. JOHNSON. THE NEXT CARD IS MR. WILLIAM BOONE. MR. BOONE.
GOOD EVENING. WILLIAM, IF YOU COULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING.
I'M WILLIAM BOONE. I LIVE AT 323. HOLLY. I'M A LONG RESIDENT OF CAIRO. BEEN OUT HERE ALL MY LIFE. I'M NOT HERE JUST TO TALK FOR JOHN SELBERG. I'M HERE TO TALK FOR THE WHOLE EMPLOYEES.
BUT THE ISSUE WITH JOHN SELBERG. I KNOW THAT THERE'S PROBLEMS IN FIRE DEPARTMENT. I LOVE JOHN SELBERG. JOHN SELBERG, I'VE BEEN KNOWING HIM FOR 42 YEARS. WE'VE ALWAYS GOTTEN ALONG. BUT THERE'S TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY. OKAY. THERE'S SOME ISSUES THAT HE DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF THAT HE SHOULD HAVE TOOK UP. AND I TALKED TO HIM THE OTHER DAY THAT HE SHOULD HAVE HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF HIS LACKADAISICAL ABOUT SOME THINGS. JOHN IS A GREAT GUY. HE'S A HE'S A GOOD LEADER. HE'S BEEN A LEADER FOR A LONG TIME IN GERMANTOWN, BUT HE'S IN CAIRO NOW, AND WE EXPECT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM OUR PEOPLE HERE IN CAIRO. I'M SORRY FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE AND I'M NOT TALKING UP FOR MISS MOLLY, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE MISS MOLLY KNEW THAT. SOME PROBLEMS WITH JOHN SELBERG. I'VE TALKED TO JOHN AND I HOPE HE GET HIS JOB. I HOPE HE KEEPS HIS JOB. I WANT HIM TO KEEP HIS JOB. ON THE TECHNICALITY OF WHAT HE'S LOSING HIS JOB FOR. IT'S EVERYBODY'S FAULT. IT'S THE LAST MAYOR AND BOARD SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD A SYSTEM WHERE THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR COULD JUST FIRE SOMEBODY WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. THE SYSTEM BEEN SET UP FOR A LONG TIME THE WRONG WAY. I WAS PART OF THE RAILROAD SYSTEM THAT THEY HAVE. SO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF BOARD TO LOOK AT THE EMPLOYEES. RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU GOT ONE PERSON THAT DECIDES SOME PERSON'S JOB. I'VE TALKED I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL ALDERMEN. I TALKED TO FORMER ALDERMAN. I'M FOR KEEPING JOHN SELBERG FOR FOR THE REASON OF IT'S NOT RIGHT IN THE WAY IT WAS DONE, BUT HE HAS DONE SOME THINGS THAT HE SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE, AND HE HAS DONE SOME THINGS THAT HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN CARE OF. I SEEN I SEEN IT FRESHENED UP. WE GOT THREE, THREE, THREE FIREFIGHTERS HAVE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME, OVER 20 SOME YEARS. THAT'S JUST QUIT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE WAY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS RUN. YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOUR GUYS. YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO THE GUY.
A GOOD LEADER LISTENS TO GUYS, TO ME. SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE EMPLOYEES. JOHN SELBERG AND THE SCREWED UP SYSTEM THAT THE CITY HAVE SET UP ALL THESE YEARS TO LET ONE PERSON DECIDE WHO GETS FIRED IN THIS CITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'VE BEEN HERE THIS LONG. SO WE NEED A SYSTEM. SO THIS THIS KIND OF STUFF DON'T HAPPEN ANYMORE. SO I'M LOOKING TO HOLD THE MAYOR AND BOARD ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS KIND OF THING DON'T HAPPEN ANYMORE. AND IT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED. AND I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IS JUST RIGHT NOW. IT HITS IT, HIT THE RIGHT GUY TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN, THAT EVERYBODY'S IN AN UPROAR.
THEY WEREN'T IN UPROAR WHEN I GOT TERMINATED FROM THIS PLACE DURING THAT SAME SYSTEM. SO I'M KIND OF GLAD THAT JOHN SELBERG SHINED A LIGHT ON THIS SYSTEM. JOHN SELBERG, SEND THE LIGHT ON THIS SYSTEM. THANK YOU. PLEASE LISTEN TO YOUR EMPLOYEES. PLEASE TAKE CARE OF YOUR EMPLOYEES. MAKE SURE YOUR EMPLOYEES ARE TREATED RIGHT IN THE CITY. THEY HAVEN'T. IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME. BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. THANK YOU. MR. THANKS. OKAY. THAT CLOSES THE
[8. CONSENT AGENDA]
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CITIZEN COMMENT PORTION OF OUR MEETING, AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE ITEMS EIGHT A THROUGH EIGHT G. IS THERE ANYONE ON THE BOARD THAT WOULD LIKE ANY OF THOSE ITEMS PULLED FOR PRESENTATION? SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. OKAY, MR. HAMMOND, IF YOU'LL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. ROBBINS. YES. MR. HALL. YES. MR. JORDAN. YES. MISS. MARSHALL. YES. MR. STAMPS.YES. MAYOR FRAZIER. YES. IF YOU'RE HERE FOR AN ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THOSE HAVE BEEN
[9.A. Resolution 2026-22 - A Resolution to Amend the FY 2027 General Fund, Drug Fund, and Capital Investment Program (CIP) Budgets]
APPROVED. THE NEXT ORDER OF ITEM OF BUSINESS IS BUSINESS ITEM, ITS RESOLUTION 2026-22.IT'S A RESOLUTION TO AMEND THE FY 2027 GENERAL FUND, DRUG FUND AND CAPITAL EXCUSE ME, INVESTMENT PROGRAM AND MR. J. P SPAR, OUR BUDGET OFFICER, HAS OUR PRESENTATION. MR. SPOTS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. C.P.D IS REQUESTING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO APPROPRIATE A KEEP TENNESSEE BEAUTIFUL GRANT IN THE AMOUNT OF $10,000 FOR OVERTIME COST RELATED TO TRAFFIC SATURATIONS. PUBLIC SERVICES IS REQUESTING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO APPROPRIATE $75,919 OF GENERAL FUND UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE FOR THE COURT EMERGENCY GENERATOR CIP PROJECT TO COVER THE COST OF THE ACCEPTED BID. THIS WILL BRING THE TOTAL PROJECT BUDGET TO $197,919. PUBLIC SERVICES IS ALSO REQUESTING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO CARRY FORWARD $49,576 OF GENERAL FUND UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE TO REPLACE THE TOWN HALL I.T.
SERVER GENERATOR. THIS WAS ORIGINALLY BUDGETED IN FISCAL YEAR 2026, BUT DUE TO A LONG LEAD TIME, WAS NOT ABLE TO BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO YEAR END. CPD IS ALSO REQUESTING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO CARRY FORWARD $26,049 OF DRUG FUND RESTRICTED FUND BALANCE TO OUTFIT THE REPLACEMENT K9 UNIT VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED IN FISCAL YEAR 2026, BUT WAS NOT ABLE TO BE EQUIPPED PRIOR TO THE YEAR END. IF THE AMENDMENTS ARE APPROVED, FINANCE DEPARTMENT IS REQUESTING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO APPROPRIATE AND REFLECT THE ADDITIONAL $75,919 IN THE CIP, AND STAFF IS ON HAND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND A SAMPLE MOTION IS PROVIDED ON SCREEN. THANK YOU. MR. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF SEEING NONE.
IS THERE A MOTION, PLEASE? I MOVE TO APPROVE RESOLUTION 2026-22. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MISS DAMON, IF YOU'LL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. HALL. YES. MR. JORDAN? YES, MISS MARSHALL. YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. ROBBINS. YES. MAYOR FRAZIER. YES, THAT'S BEEN
[9.B. Purchase of an Automated Garbage Truck Through a Sourcewell Cooperative Contract]
APPROVED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS THE PURCHASE OF AN AUTOMATED GARBAGE TRUCK THROUGH OUR SOURCEWELL COOPERATIVE CONTRACT. AND MR. CLAY TICER HAS OUR PRESENTATION. MR. TICER. THANK YOU. BOARD. GOOD EVENING. THE PURCHASE OF THE. I MEAN, THE REASON FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO PURCHASE A NEW GARBAGE TRUCK FOR OUR SANITATION DIVISION.THE CURRENT TRUCK THAT WE'RE USING IS A 2019, I'M SORRY, 2013, WHICH WILL BE SURPLUS IN 2019, WILL BE MOVED INTO A BACKUP STATUS. THE SANITATION DIVISION COLLECTS 17000 TONS OF GARBAGE IN 2000 SUNS RECYCLING MATERIAL EACH YEAR. I HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF THE GARBAGE TRUCK OFF OF THE COOPERATIVE CONTRACT. THANK YOU. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF STAFF SEEING NONE. IS THERE A MOTION, PLEASE.
MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MISS DIAMOND, IF YOU'LL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. JORDAN. YES, MISS MARSHALL? YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. ROBBINS. YES.
MR. HALL. YES. MAYOR FRAZIER. YES. THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. THIS NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS IS THE
[9.C. Purchase of a Road Tractor Through a Sourcewell Cooperative Contract]
PURCHASE OF A ROAD TRACTOR, ALSO THROUGH THE SOURCEWELL COOPERATIVE CONTRACT. AND MR. TICER, AGAIN, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA IS TO PURCHASE A ROAD TRACTOR.THE SANITATION DIVISION USES THREE PRIMARY TRUCKS AND ONE BACKUP TRUCK TO HAUL OUR RECYCLING MATERIAL AND GARBAGE MATERIAL TO EITHER THE LANDFILL OR OUR RECYCLING STATION. THE THREE PRIMARY TRACTORS, ONE OF THEM WILL BE MOVED INTO A BACKUP STATUS. IT'S GOING TO BE THE 2003 VOLVO AND THE 1996 FORD, WHICH IS OUR BACKUP, WILL BE SURPLUSED AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE, I HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION TO PURCHASE THE ROAD TRACTOR, AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. TICER? SEEING NONE, IS THERE A MOTION, PLEASE? MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. MOTION AND A SECOND, MISS DIAMOND, IF YOU'LL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MISS MARSHALL. YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. ROBBINS. YES. MR. HALL. YES.
MR. JORDAN. YES. MAYOR FRAZIER. YES. THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. AND THE THIRD ITEM FOR MR. TICER IS
[9.D. Purchase of the FY27 Fleet Vehicles Through a Statewide Cooperative Contract]
THE PURCHASE OF AN FY 27 FLEET VEHICLES THROUGH THE STATEWIDE COOPERATIVE CONTRACT. THANK YOU AGAIN. THE REASON FOR THIS ONE IS TO PURCHASE FLEET VEHICLES FOR SEVERAL OF OUR DIVISIONS[00:25:01]
THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. IN RECENT YEARS, EACH DIVISION OR DEPARTMENT WOULD BRING THEIR OWN VEHICLES UP HERE FOR APPROVAL. THIS PAST YEAR, WE DECIDED THAT PUBLIC SERVICES WOULD DO ALL THE QUOTING, VETTING AND THEN BRINGING IT TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL. I HAVE A LIST OF WHAT WE'RE PURCHASING AND WHICH DIVISION. THERE'S A TOTAL OF 12 VEHICLES, AND WE ARE PURCHASING THEM OFF OF THE STATEWIDE COOPERATIVE CONTRACT. I HAVE A PROPOSED MOTION FOR APPROVAL, AND I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS, MR. ROBBINS? CLAY, IF IF THE BOARD APPROVES THIS REQUEST, DO YOU PROMISE TO STOP SPENDING MONEY TODAY? NO, I DO NOT, BECAUSE I'M ONLY DOING THIS FOR MR. RUSSELL. AND HE IS NEXT. AND HE'S GOING TO SPEND SOME MORE. ALL RIGHT, WELL, AT LEAST YOU'RE DONE. I THINK THAT'S IT. I'M DONE. I THOUGHT WE NEEDED A GIGGLE FOR EVERYBODY TODAY. OR MAYBE MISS MINOR, IF YOU GUYS CAN EXPLAIN HOW DOES HOW IS THIS LIST FORMULATED? AND IT'S PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS. AND SINCE WE HAVE AN AUDIENCE AND WE CAN DO A LITTLE EDUCATION ON THIS, SO EACH DEPARTMENT HEAD WILL TALK TO THEIR MANAGERS, GET A LIST OF VEHICLES THEY'D LIKE TO REPLACE. THOSE ARE SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN ADMINISTRATOR. THEY'RE ALSO VIEWED BY OUR FLEET MANAGER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE REQUESTS ARE WARRANTED, OR THAT THE VEHICLE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED DUE TO MILEAGE, AGE, CONDITION. AND THEN ONCE THEY DO THAT, WE AS PUBLIC SERVICES WILL FIND OUT WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR. WE'LL GET THE QUOTES ABOUT IT, MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT, AND THEN BRING IT TO YOU ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYTHING TO ADD? I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT THE TOWN'S ENTIRE FLEET CONSISTS OF HUNDREDS OF VEHICLES. AND SO IT IS A PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH EVERY YEAR TO EVALUATE ALL OF THE VEHICLES. WHAT NEEDS THERE ARE. OUR FLEET MANAGER, ALAN HATHAWAY, DOES A PHENOMENAL JOB OF EVALUATING EACH OF THOSE VEHICLES AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE THEY'RE READY FOR REPLACEMENT. AND IF SO, WHAT'S THE BEST THING TO REPLACE THEM WITH? SO IT'S A VERY THOROUGH PROCESS. THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MISS DIAMOND, IF YOU'LL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. ROBBINS. YES. MR. HALL. YES. MR. JORDAN. YES, MISS. MARSHALL. YES. MAYOR FRAZIER. YES. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM[9.E. Purchase of an Emergency Standby Generator for the Municipal Court]
OF BUSINESS IS THE PURCHASE OF EMERGENCY STANDBY GENERATOR FOR THE MUNICIPAL COURT. AND JOSH RUSSELL, OUR DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, HAS OUR PRESENTATION. MR. RUSSELL. YES, MAYOR. THANK YOU AND GOOD EVENING. THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM, AS SHE MENTIONED, IS TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF A GENERATOR FOR OUR MUNICIPAL COURT. THIS IS GOING TO BE TWO SEPARATE ITEMS. SO JUST FOREWARNING THIS IS MIGHT TAKE A MINUTE TO GET OUT. BUT THE FIRST PART OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO ACTUALLY PURCHASE THE GENERATOR ITSELF. IN 1990, THEY BUILT THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. AND AT THAT TIME THE GENERATOR, THIS IS THIS IS WHAT I'M BEING TOLD IN HISTORY.I WAS THREE YEARS OLD IN 1990, JUST FOR THE RECORD. OKAY, SO JOSH, THAT'S ENOUGH. JUST KIDDING. IN 1990, WHEN THE FACILITY WAS BUILT, IT POWERED THE MUNICIPAL COURT AS WELL AS THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. IN 2018, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT REPLACED THEIR GENERATOR. AND IN 2023, AND WE HAD A STORM OUTAGE. IT WAS DETERMINED THAT THE MUNICIPAL COURT WAS NO LONGER SERVICED BY THAT GENERATOR. SO OUR FORMER GENERAL SERVICES DIRECTOR, DEREK HUNNICUTT, HAD PUT A PROJECT IN FOR THE FY 25 CIP TO PUT IN A NEW GENERATOR. THAT BEING SAID, WE NOW TAKE FACILITIES MAINTENANCE WITHIN PUBLIC SERVICES. SO WE'RE BRINGING THIS TO YOU FOR APPROVAL. SO FIRST OF ALL, WE ORIGINALLY DECIDED WE WOULD JUST DO A TURNKEY SOURCEWELL PROJECT WITH THOMPSON ENERGY SOLUTIONS, HAVE THEM COME IN AND PUT A GENERATOR IN AND JUST TURNKEY. BUT THE PROBLEM WAS THE SOURCEWELL CONTRACT DID NOT HONOR THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS NO INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. THERE'S THERE'S NOT A PAD, THERE'S NOT ELECTRICAL. SO WHAT WE HAD TO DO IS WE'VE GOT TO BUY THE GENERATOR. WE'VE GOT TO DO THE BIDDING OF THE THE CONSTRUCTION SITE SEPARATELY. THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM IS JUST TO PURCHASE THE GENERATOR ITSELF. WE FEEL THAT THIS IS THE MOST FINANCIAL RESPONSIBLE WAY TO GO ABOUT IT, BECAUSE WE DO GET A DISCOUNT WITH THAT SOURCEWELL PROJECT WITH SOURCEWELL BUYING IT INSTEAD OF PAYING FOR A CONTRACTOR TO TO BUY IT AND THEN CHARGE US FOR IT. SO THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S A PICTURE OF THE GENERATOR. IT'S PRETTY SIMPLE, BUT HERE'S A PROPOSED MOTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. LIKE I SAID, I'VE GOT ANOTHER BIT TO TALK ABOUT. SO THERE MAY BE SOME QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED ON THE SECOND END OF THIS, BUT FEEL FREE TO GO AHEAD IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS? ALDERMAN JORDAN. SO THIS IS JUST TO PURCHASE THE GENERATOR, CORRECT? YES, SIR. THAT IS CORRECT. WHAT ABOUT CONNECTING THAT. WHO'S GOING TO. THAT'S THAT'S THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM.
OKAY. I GOT ANOTHER ONE. IT'S RELATED TO GENERATORS. DOES THIS BUILDING HAVE A BACKUP
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GENERATOR? OBVIOUSLY NOT. SO SINCE WE HAD TO RESCHEDULE OUR MEETING SINCE WE'RE ON GENERATORS, I THINK I ASKED, DOES IT HAVE A BACKUP GENERATOR? IT DOES HAVE A GENERATOR, BUT THAT GENERATOR POWERS OUR CENTRAL IT SERVER ROOM IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN HALL. AND WHAT THAT DOES IS THE POWER GOES DOWN. IT KEEPS OUR NETWORK FROM ACROSS TOWN GOING DOWN THE.CURRENTLY, IT DOES NOT POWER THIS FACILITY. NO. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THERE A MOTION, PLEASE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MISS DIAMOND, IF YOU'LL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. ROBBINS. YES. MR. HALL. YES. MR. JORDAN.
YES, MISS. MARSHALL. YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MAYOR FRAZIER. YES, THAT'S BEEN APPROVED. AND, MR.
[9.F. Award of Construction Services Contract for the Municipal Court Emergency Standby Generator Projects]
RUSSELL, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE AWARD OF THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES CONTRACT FOR THE MUNICIPAL COURT. EMERGENCY STANDBY GENERATOR. THE FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND TO TO GO ON AND TO ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER, THE PURPOSE OF THIS ONE IS TO APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES CONTRACT, OBVIOUSLY, TO CONNECT AND AND TO INSTALL THE GENERATOR, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'RE GOING TO PURCHASE IT. THEY WILL DELIVER IT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO PAY THE NEXT THE NEXT PART OF THIS IS WE'RE GOING TO HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO COME IN, RUN ALL THE ELECTRICAL WIRE AND SUCH. SO RIGHT HERE, I'VE GOT A PROPOSED LOCATION WHERE WE HAD THIS SET UP. AND AS YOU SEE, THE GENERATOR WILL BE RIGHT BEHIND THE COURT AND RIGHT BEHIND THE POLICE STATION IN THAT SALLY PORT ENTRANCE TO THE JAIL. 55 VENDORS WERE NOTIFIED OF THIS BID. AND FOR SUBMITTED BIDS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, A AND B CONSTRUCTION HAS OBVIOUSLY BID THE LOWEST AND MOST RESPONSIVE BID. NOW, WHAT'S INVOLVED WITH THIS PROJECT AGAIN TRYING TO KEEP COSTS DOWN. WE'RE GOING TO BECAUSE THIS WAS A THIS WAS AN FY 25 PROJECT.WE'RE AN FY 27. HENCE WE'RE KIND OF BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL TRYING TO SAVE AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN. WE'RE GOING TO LEVERAGE OUR GUYS TO POUR THE CONCRETE. I THINK WE CAN SAVE SOME MONEY THERE. WHAT WE HAD ENTAILED IN THIS CONTRACT WAS TO COME IN, RUN ALL THE ELECTRICAL WIRING, PUT ALL THE TRANSFER SWITCHES AND DISCONNECTS. AND OF COURSE, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL DO THE GENERATOR WILL BE INSTALLED. ONCE THEY GET EVERYTHING RUN, THEY'LL COME IN, DELIVER THE GENERATOR AND BE A CONSTRUCTION WILL CONNECT IT, TEST IT. WE'LL BE READY TO GO. I WANT TO MAKE ONE OTHER NOTE THAT JP DID BRING A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO YOU GUYS, BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE BEHIND SCHEDULE AND OBVIOUSLY PRICES HAVE INCREASED. SO I HAVE A A PROPOSED MOTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND IF YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER THEM. OKAY. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS AGENDA ITEM ONE QUESTION, JOHN ROBBINS. SORRY, NOT A JOKE THIS TIME.
BUT SO WHEN WE SEPARATE OUT THE MATERIAL FROM THE LABOR IN THIS SITUATION IS WHO'S GOING TO HOLD WHO, WHO WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE IF THERE IS A PROBLEM A YEAR DOWN THE ROAD THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THEY ASSUMING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ULTIMATE WARRANTY ON IT. I GUESS WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO WARRANT THE, THE WARRANTY OF THE ELECTRICAL AND THE INSTALLATION WILL BE ON THE CONTRACTOR. THE SLAB IS ON US. THAT'S THE ONLY THING WE'RE DOING IN-HOUSE. GOTCHA. AND I HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE IN MY GUYS THAN I WOULD ANYBODY IN THE COUNTRY. SO THAT'S GOOD AS LONG AS IT'S GOT COVERAGE IN PLACE. ONCE WE FINISH, YOU KNOW, AND HAVE IT ALL READY TO GO. YEAH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN THE ELECTRICAL SIDE OF IT.
WE'RE JUST WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO COINCIDE WITH THEM AND HELP THEM, YOU KNOW. PERFECT.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF NOT, IS THERE A MOTION PLEASE. MOTION TO APPROVE. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, MR. DIAMOND, IF YOU'LL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. HALL. YES. MR. JORDAN. YES, MISS MARSHALL. YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. ROBBINS. YES. MAYOR FRAZIER. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO
[10.A. Ordinance 2026-03 – Second Reading and Public Hearing – An Ordinance to Amend Title VII: Traffic Code, Chapter 71 Traffic Regulations, § 71.15 Bicycle Riders and the Like; Chapter 72 Stopping, Yielding, and Parking, § 72.37 Where Prohibited and § 72.38 Restricted Parking in Residential Zones; Chapter 73: Motorcycles, ATV, and Motor Driven Cycles, §§ 73.01 Scope and Purpose Through 73.04 Exceptions; Title IX: General Regulations, Chapter 90 Public Parks and Facilities, § 90.04 Skateboards and the Like and § 90.05 Damaging Town Property; Chapter 92: Streets and Sidewalks, § 92.39 Driveways and Curb Cuts; Chapter 95: Health and Sanitation, § 95.11 Presence of Vehicles on Lawn a Public Nuisance; Title XI: Business Regulations; and, Chapter 110: Temporary Sales, Door-To-Door Solicitations, and the Like, § 110.22 Mobile Food Vending; Related to Various Topics]
THE ORDINANCE ON SECOND READING AND PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS ORDINANCE 2020-20. I CAN'T EVEN SPEAK. 2026-03 SECOND READING OF PUBLIC HEARING ON MANY ITEMS OF AN ORDINANCE. AND JAMIE GROSS, WHO IS OUR TOWN PLANNER, HAS OUR PRESENTATION. MR. GROSS THANK YOU, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.MR. SORRY, I'M HAVING SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.
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LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN SEE THE SLIDE ON THE LEFT SIDE. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET THERE, THOUGH. THERE WE GO. OKAY. THANK YOU. BEFORE I GET STARTED, I'M GOING TO MENTION THAT WE I HANDED OUT SOME EXHIBITS THAT WERE AT YOUR SEAT TODAY. ONE IS EXHIBIT FOUR.THOSE ARE SOME PRODUCT SOME STATISTICS ABOUT E-BIKES AND SAFETY FROM THE CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY COMMISSION. AND I WANTED TO ENTER THAT INTO THE RECORD. AND THOSE TWO TALK ABOUT HOW ACCIDENTS ARE ON THE RISE WITH E-BIKES AND, AND MICROMOBILITY DEVICES. AND EXHIBITS FIVE AND SIX AT YOUR SEAT ARE ALSO PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED. THERE'S ALSO SOME ALTERNATIVE CONDITIONS OR SOME LANGUAGE THAT YOU COULD PUT INTO A MOTION TOWARDS THE END OF THE MEETING, BUT I'LL COME BACK TO THAT LATER. SO ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ORDINANCE. THIS IS A CLEANUP ORDINANCE. EVERY YEAR OR TWO WE WE GO IN AND MAKE CHANGES TO TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND WE BUNDLE UP A BUNCH OF TOPICS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE DOING TODAY. SO E-BIKES IS A PART OF THAT, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER MOVING PARTS RELATED TO THIS ORDINANCE AS WELL. AND I'LL TOUCH ON SOME OF THOSE. THE MAYOR AND BOARD HAS DISCUSSED A LOT OF THESE TOPICS BEFORE WORK SESSIONS THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, INCLUDING ONE LAST WEEK. THE BMA APPROVED THE ORDINANCE ON FIRST READING ON JULY 27TH. THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE. WITH OUR READING PROCESS, YOU CAN MAKE CHANGES ALL THE WAY UP TO THIRD AND FINAL READING. SO CHANGES WERE MADE THAT NIGHT. YOU COULD MAKE CHANGES TONIGHT AT THE SECOND READING BASED ON THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU HEAR, THE PRESENTATION THE STAFF MAKES, OR YOU COULD MAKE CHANGES AT THE THIRD AND FINAL READING. SO THAT THAT IS PART OF OUR PROCESS, AND IT'S A GOOD PART OF OUR PROCESS. WE CAN LEARN ALONG THE WAY AND MAKE MAKE OUR REGULATIONS EVEN EVEN BETTER. THIS ORDINANCE WAS A COLLABORATION FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, POLICE ADMINISTRATION, THE DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT. WE'VE CONSULTED OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER. A LOT OF DIFFERENT FOLKS WORK TOGETHER TO PRODUCE THIS ORDINANCE AND NOT NOT JUST THE E-BIKES PART.
AND SO YOU DO HAVE SOME OPTIONS. AT THE END OF THE NIGHT, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MENTION A COUPLE SO YOU COULD APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE ON SECOND READING TONIGHT WITHOUT ANY CHANGES.
AND YOU COULD HAVE THE THIRD AND FINAL READING NEXT AT AT YOUR NEXT MEETING ON AUGUST 20TH, AUGUST 24TH, YOU COULD APPROVE IT TONIGHT WITH SOME CHANGES WITH THIS EXAMPLE HANDOUT THAT I'VE GOT. I'VE GOT A SLIDE ABOUT IT TOO. AND WE WOULD ROLL THOSE CHANGES INTO THE ORDINANCE, WHAT YOU WOULD SEE AT YOUR THIRD AND FINAL READING, OR IF YOU HEAR A LOT TONIGHT AND YOU REALLY NEED TO PAUSE AND THINK ABOUT IT MORE, YOU COULD APPROVE THE SECOND READING VERSION, AND THEN YOU COULD INSTRUCT US TO DELAY YOUR THIRD AND FINAL READING TO SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER. THAT MIGHT GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO HAVE ANOTHER WORK SESSION OR TO ALLOW FOR MORE STUDY. SO YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE GOT OPTIONS AS WE GET INTO THIS. SO BEFORE I GET INTO THE E-BIKES, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU A COUPLE OF THE OTHER PARTS OF THE ORDINANCE. ONE CHANGE RELATES TO PARKING OF VEHICLES ON THE ON A FRONT LAWN. WE'VE NOTICED THAT THAT HAS INCREASED IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND IT'S A CONCERN CREATES KIND OF A BLIGHTED APPEARANCE, PARTICULARLY WHEN CARS RUN UP YARDS AND MAYBE CAUSE DRAINAGE ISSUES OR THE YARDS ARE MUDDY AND MAYBE TRACK TRACK THINGS OUT, DIRT OUT INTO THE STREET, BUT ALSO IN THE EVENINGS PARTICULARLY LOOKS MAKES THE AREA LOOK PRETTY, PRETTY BLIGHTED. AND SO THAT IS A CONCERN. SO THIS ORDINANCE WOULD DECLARE THAT A PUBLIC NUISANCE AND REQUIRE, IF SOMEBODY IS PARKING IN THE FRONT YARD BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE STREET, THE VEHICLE WOULD HAVE TO BE ON AN APPROVED SURFACE LIKE CONCRETE OR ASPHALT, AND IT COULD BE ON GRASS TO THE SIDE OR REAR OF THE HOUSE. BUT IF IT'S IN THE FRONT YARD, IT NEEDS TO BE ON A ON A DRIVEWAY. SO THAT'LL BE ADDED TO THE ORDINANCE. ANOTHER REGULATION THAT THE TOWN COURT ASKED US TO PUT INTO THE ORDINANCE WAS REGULATIONS TO HELP PROHIBIT LARGE VEHICLES LIKE BOX TRUCKS AND TRAILERS PARKED OVERNIGHT IN A RESIDENTIAL STREET. THEY'VE HEARD SOME COMPLAINTS, AND OUR CURRENT REGULATIONS MAKE IT HARD TO PROSECUTE THAT. SO
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WE'VE FOUND A MODEL ORDINANCE FROM ANOTHER COMMUNITY, AND WE'VE ADDED THAT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND IT TRACKS REALLY CLOSELY WITH LANGUAGE. YOU ADDED IN MAY TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE ABOUT PARKING OF SIMILAR VEHICLES ON IN THE FRONT YARD, EVEN IF IT WAS ON A DRIVEWAY. SO ALL THESE REGULATIONS SYNC UP TOGETHER. THESE CHANGES WILL ALSO REGULATE ON STREET PARKING. IT WILL SAY THAT WE CAN'T PARK REALLY NEAR AN INTERSECTION, LIKE A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION, OR NEAR A STOP SIGN OR NEAR A CROSSWALK. SO IT'S ALL ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY. AND THOSE ARE ACTUALLY ENGINEERING BEST PRACTICES. AND SO WE'RE INCORPORATING THOSE INTO THOSE INTO THE TOWN CODE. ALSO FOOD TRUCKS. WE REGULATE FOOD TRUCKS NOW, BUT THE REGULATIONS ARE KIND OF SPREAD SPREAD AROUND IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. WE'RE TRYING TO REGULATE IT IN A SUCCINCT WAY IN ONE SPOT. SO THIS DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE THE WAY WE APPROACH FOOD TRUCKS SUBSTANTIALLY. IT DOES SAY THAT YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T AS FOOD TRUCK CAN'T POP UP AND SELL MAYBE IN A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, BUT THEY CAN SELL IN FOR SCENARIOS. ONE IS A SPECIAL EVENT. THAT MIGHT BE IT COULD BE A SPECIAL EVENT. MAYBE IT'S FAIR ON THE SQUARE WHERE THERE'S PAPERWORK THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE TOWN, OR MAYBE IT'S A MAYBE IT'S LIKE HELENA CHEMICALS HAS AN EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION EVENT, AND THERE IS A SPECIAL EVENT FORM ON FILE WITH THE TOWN. THAT WOULD BE A SCENARIO WHERE THEY WHERE THEY COULD HAVE A FOOD TRUCK, THE FARMERS MARKET ON THE CAMPUS, AND THE PROPERTY OF A SCHOOL, CHURCH OR AN EVENT CENTER. AND LASTLY, A PRIVATE PROPERTY OR PRIVATE PARTY, SUCH AS LIKE AN HOA TYPE PARTY. IT MAYBE AT A CLUBHOUSE OR MAYBE AT SOMEONE'S PRIVATE HOME, THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THOSE SCENARIOS, WHICH IS LARGELY WHAT WE ALLOW TODAY. BUT AGAIN, TRYING TO PUT IT IN ONE SUCCINCT SPOT, WE'VE ALREADY COMMUNICATED WITH THE FOOD TRUCKS THAT ALL PERMITS FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE OF THESE CHANGES. AND NOW E-BIKES.SO THERE WERE SOME RECENT CHANGES TO STATE LAW THAT WENT INTO EFFECT JULY 1ST. THEY DEFINED E-BIKES AND THE THREE DIFFERENT CLASSES. AND THEY PARTICULARLY WITH CLASS THREE E-BIKES, THEY SAID THAT YOU HAVE TO BE 16 YEAR OLDS, YEARS OLD OR OLDER TO RIDE A BIKE. SO THAT'S, THAT'S LAW. NOW, THE LAW ALSO SAID THAT CITIES CAN REGULATE CLASS ONE AND TWO TO ADDRESS COMMUNITY CONCERNS, LIKE THE PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE. THIS, THIS THE GOAL OF THIS ORDINANCE IS TO TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THOSE SAFETY CONCERNS. AND THIS ORDINANCE IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY. SO KIND OF A TWO FOLD, TWO TWOFOLD APPROACH. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO EDUCATE, FIRST AND FOREMOST, WHAT IS SAFE, WHAT IS WHAT IS OUR COMMUNITIES COMMUNITY'S DESIRE FOR SAFETY AND BEST PRACTICES FOR, FOR USING AN E-BIKE OR A MICRO MOBILITY DEVICE. AND WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE AN ENFORCEMENT TOOL IF WE NEED IT. THE PARKS DIRECTOR SHARED A STORY OF A YOUTH THAT WERE RIDING E-BIKES, AND WE'VE SEEN A LOT, A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE ON E-BIKES, AND THEY'RE RIDING AROUND A TENNIS COURT AND THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S NOT OKAY. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE ORDINANCE WHERE YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T RIDE ON A PARK FACILITY THAT WAY AND RIDE ON A, ON A BALL FIELD. SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED AN ORDINANCE TO BE ABLE TO PURSUE ENFORCEMENT IF IF THAT IS NEEDED. BUT ALSO LOOPING BACK, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN AND WE'RE. THE ORDINANCE GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. SO THERE WILL BE PUBLIC EDUCATION THAT HAPPENS AFTER ADOPTION. AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING ON A SAFETY TRAINING PROGRAM. SO THEY'RE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE ORDINANCE SO THEY CAN FINALIZE THEIR PROGRAM THAT WE'RE WORKING ON. SO THREE CLASSES, AND YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THAT. AND FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT CLASS ONE, IT'S A PEDAL ASSIST. YOU CAN GO UP TO 20MPH. SO IT BOOSTS BOOSTS THE PERSON'S ABILITY TO GO TO GO FAST. A CLASS TWO HAS A PEDAL, BUT MAYBE A THROTTLE AS WELL. IT CAN ALSO GO UP TO 20MPH. THE CLASS THREE HAS A THROTTLE AND IT GOES UP TO 28MPH. IT HAS PEDALS, BUT IT DEFINITELY HAS. THE CLASS THREE HAS A, A A THROTTLE. SO THIS IS A TABLE THAT SUMMARIZES THIS WAS IN YOUR PACKET THAT SUMMARIZES THE FIRST READING VERSION, THE THE VERSION THAT YOU SAW AND MADE CHANGES TO.
AND THE VERSION THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED TODAY, I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN WITH, WITH THE ORANGE CELLS, WHAT YOU DISCUSSED AT YOUR WORK SESSION LAST WEEK AND WHAT COULD BE CHANGING TONIGHT IF YOU ALL MAKE MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND AMEND THE ORDINANCE. ORDINANCE THAT'S PENDING. SO I WILL TOUCH ON WHAT'S PENDING RIGHT NOW. AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE ORANGE CELLS. SO RIGHT NOW THE ORDINANCE THAT'S PENDING INTRODUCES THIS TERM OF
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MICRO MOBILITY DEVICES. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT THE WORK SESSION INTO THE ORDINANCE.WHAT IT DOESN'T DO IT DOES NOT CHANGE A NON-MOTORIZED BICYCLES RIGHTS IN ANY WAY. WE ARE NOT ADDING REGULATIONS. WE'RE NOT TAKING AWAY REGULATIONS FROM A STANDARD STREET BIKE. WE DID HAPPEN TO PUT THE MICRO MOBILITY REGULATIONS WITHIN THE SAME SECTION AS THE BICYCLE, SO WE HAD TO MOVE SOME THINGS AROUND TO MAKE MAKE IT TO MAKE IT FIT. SO IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE WE'RE CHANGING BICYCLE REGULATIONS, BUT WE ARE NOT. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONAL RIGHTS TAKEN AWAY OR ADDED FOR STANDARD NON MOTORIZED BICYCLES. THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS PENDING RIGHT NOW, THE CLASS ONE, TWO AND THREE. IF IF PEOPLE ARE DRIVING THOSE, THEY WOULD NEED TO STAY ON A ROAD WITH A POSTED SPEED OF 20MPH OR LESS. IT SAYS THAT FOLKS ARE EXPECTED TO WEAR HELMETS TO CLASS THREE. THEY NEED TO BE 16 YEARS OLD OR OLDER IF THEY'RE GOING TO RIDE THOSE. IT SAYS THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED ON SIDEWALKS EXCEPT FOR THE CLASS ONE. AND IF THE CLASS ONE BICYCLE OR E-BIKE IS ON A STREET, IT WOULD NEED TO BE DISENGAGED. THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO USE THE POWER ASSIST GREENBELTS. IT SAYS THAT CLASS ONE, TWO, AND THREE ARE NOT ALLOWED ON GREENBELTS OR TOWN TOWN FACILITIES, TOWN PARKS, OTHER MICRO MOBILITY DEVICES. FACTOR INTO THIS TO. THIS COULD BE LIKE AN E-SCOOTER OR A UNICYCLE, AND THOSE ARE ALSO NOT ALLOWED ON SIDEWALKS, GREENBELTS OR TOWN FACILITIES, BUT THEY COULD BE ALLOWED ON A STREET POSTED AT 20MPH OR LESS. THE ORDINANCE ALSO INTRODUCES A TERM CALLED MOTO DEVICE, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY A A FASTER VERSION OF AN E-BIKE. IT GOES FASTER THAN 28 MILES AN HOUR, AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY A MOTORCYCLE, AND IT WOULD BE REGULATED LIKE A MOTORCYCLE WITHIN THE TOWN OF CARTERVILLE. AND WE DID ADD GOLF CARTS TO THIS CLEAN UP ORDINANCE. AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO CONFLATE GOLF CARTS AND E-BIKES IN ANY WAY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE SEPARATE AND HAVE SEPARATE PURPOSES AND CAN BE USED IN SEPARATE WAYS. BUT SINCE WE ARE CLEANING UP THE ORDINANCE AND WE HAD THE THE SECTION OPEN ABOUT MOTORCYCLES AND ATVS, IT WAS A GOOD PLACE TO ADDRESS MOTORCYCLES, GOLF CARTS WHICH ARE ALREADY REGULATED BY THE STATE. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED ON TOWN ROADS OR PUBLIC ROADS UNLESS THEY'RE UPGRADED TO A TO A CERTAIN ROAD STANDARD AND ROAD ROADWORTHY AND REGISTERED WITH THE STATE. SO WE'RE ESSENTIALLY GOING TO MIRROR STATE LAW IN THAT REGARD SINCE WE HAVE THE ORDINANCE OPEN. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THERE'S NO CO-MINGLING WITH THE REGULATIONS OF E-BIKES. SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT'S PENDING RIGHT NOW. BUT WHAT WE HEARD LAST WEEK AT YOUR WORK SESSION IS THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT OR ADULTS NOT BEING ABLE TO RIDE E-BIKES ON STREETS IF THEY'RE OVER 16 AND THEY KNOW HOW TO KNOW THE RULES OF THE ROAD, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO ALLOW FOR THEM TO BE ON THE STREET. SO ONE OF THE EDITS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, ONE OF THE ORANGE CELLS, WOULD SAY THAT THAT THERE WOULD BE NO RESTRICTION FOR ADULTS OR FOR PEOPLE OVER 16 YEARS OF AGE. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE EDITS THAT CAME OUT OF LAST WEEK THAT WE HEARD. HEARD YOU SAY, WE ALSO HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU WOULDN'T WANT YOUTH. YOU WOULD WANT PEOPLE TO BE AT LEAST 16 YEARS OLD OR OLDER IF THEY'RE DRIVING A CLASS TWO E-BIKE WITH NO AGE RESTRICTION ON THE CLASS ONE. WE ALSO HEARD YOU SAY THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO, SINCE WE'RE ALLOWING THE TYPE ONE E-BIKE THAT'S DISENGAGED ON A SIDEWALK, WE MIGHT ALSO WANT TO ALLOW A TYPE TWO SINCE THEY'RE VERY, VERY CLOSE IN DESIGN AND APPEARANCE. AND IF IT'S NOT IN IF IT'S NOT ENGAGED, THEN THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ALLOWED TO.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE HEARD ALLOWING CLASS ONE AND TWO, BOTH IF THEY'RE DISENGAGED ON A PUBLIC SIDEWALK IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND THE SAME WOULD BE TRUE FOR A GREENBELT TRAIL CLASS ONE AND TWO OR A TOWN FACILITY. SO MAYBE SOMEBODY RIDING LIKE MAYBE A YOUTH RIDING TO THE TO THE LIBRARY, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO RIDE ON A RESIDENTIAL SIDEWALK IF THEIR MOTORS WERE DISENGAGED AND MAKE IT FROM THEIR HOME TO MAYBE THE LIBRARY OR A PARK OR SCHOOL FOR THAT MATTER. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WE HEARD DISCUSSED. AND THOSE YOU COULD TAKE THAT UP WHEN WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE MAKING YOUR MOTIONS. AND THEN THIS IS A SLIDE THAT SUMMARIZES ALL OF THOSE THINGS. COME BACK TO IT WHEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING A MOTION. SO AGAIN, SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS. WE WERE SCHEDULED FOR A THIRD AND FINAL READING AUGUST 24TH, UNLESS IT IS DELAYED TONIGHT, POST ADOPTION, WE WILL BE DOING A PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL BE ROLLING OUT A TRAINING PROGRAM.
WE WILL CONTACT THE FOOD TRUCK VENDORS TO LET THEM KNOW OF THE FINAL VERSION OF THE REGULATIONS, AND WE WILL BE HELPING THE COMMUNITY BE AWARE OF SOME OF THE NO PARKING IN THE FRONT YARD, OR NO PARKING OF CERTAIN VEHICLES ON THE STREET REGULATIONS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DON'T CATCH ANYONE OFF GUARD. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE
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ORDINANCE. YOU HAVE THE PROPOSED MOTION THERE ON YOUR SCREEN AND THEN YOUR PACKET.ONE ALTERNATIVE MOTION IS TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE ON SECOND READING AND DELAY THE THIRD AND FINAL READING TO SEPTEMBER. YOU CAN FILL IN THAT BLANK IF YOU WANT TO STUDY IT FURTHER. THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE MOTION, WHICH TRACKS WITH THIS HANDOUT AT YOUR SEAT, IS TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE ON SECOND READING WITH CERTAIN AMENDMENTS THAT YOU SEE FIT TO ADD TO THE ORDINANCE. THERE ARE SEVERAL STAFF MEMBERS THAT WORKED ON THIS ORDINANCE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE. I KNOW THEY'RE ABLE TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I'M PLEASED TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS WELL. THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, MR. ROSE, VERY MUCH.
IT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND I HAVE A LOT OF COMMENT CARDS FOR PEOPLE WITH INPUT. SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME ADDITIONAL INSIGHT INTO E-BIKES. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BOARD TO STAFF? ALDERMAN ROBBINS HOLD ON ONE SECOND. ALDERMAN ROBBINS I'M SURE THIS WAS PREDICTABLE THAT I'D HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR WORKING SO HARD ON THIS. I'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND. AND ALSO, THE CITIZENS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT HAVE EMAILED CALLED IN. YOU KNOW, YOU PLAY A ROLE IN THIS. YOU'VE BEEN HEARD.
WE'VE BEEN LISTENING AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR ENGAGEMENT. THANK YOU FOR FOR SHOWING YOUR CONCERN. AND I THINK THAT HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THIS TO A POINT THAT EVERYBODY WILL FEEL LIKE THEY'RE AT LEAST REASONABLY REPRESENTED WITH THEIR CONCERNS AND HOPES. BUT, JAMIE, ON THE PROPOSED ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE COULD CONSIDER TONIGHT, THE ONE QUESTION OR COMMENT I HAVE IS ABOUT THE CLASS TWO AND THREE BIKES NOT BEING OPERATED BY PERSONS YOUNGER THAN 16 YEARS OF AGE, AND THE CLASS ONE AND TWO ARE FAIRLY SIMILAR, EXCEPT FOR THAT THE CLASS TWO DOES HAVE A THROTTLE ACTIVATION ON IT AS OPPOSED TO PEDAL ASSIST ONLY. BUT IF WE WERE GOING TO CONSIDER OFFERING ALLOWING CLASS ONE AND TWO TO BE OPERATED WHEN MOTORS ARE DISENGAGED AND THEY HAVE A SIMILAR SPEED, ONE JUST HAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF ENGAGING THE ASSISTANCE, RIGHT? AM I CORRECT IN THAT THEY'RE BOTH ASSISTED CORRECT. AND WOULD IT BE POTENTIALLY FAIR TO SAY THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO, IF CLASS ONE AND TWO ARE SO SIMILAR IN NATURE, LIKE YOU MENTIONED JUST A MOMENT AGO, THAT BUNDLING THOSE TWO TOGETHER IS SEPARATE FROM THE THE CLASS THREE STILL ALLOWING CLASS THREE RESTRICTED, YOU KNOW, FOR ONLY 16 AND OVER, BUT UNDER THAT FOR CLASS ONE AND TWO, I MEAN, THEY SOUND TO BE PRETTY SIMILAR TO ME. THEY ARE SIMILAR AND THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE STATE ADOPTED. THEY DEFINITELY SAID 16 FOR THE TYPE THREE. THEY MAY COME BACK AND CHANGE IT AT SOME POINT. IF THEY MONITOR ACCIDENTS. BUT THEY ARE SIMILAR AND I CAN SEE HOW THEY WOULD BE VERY HARD TO TELL APART. YEAH. AND IT WAS HARD. YOU KNOW, WE HAD A TOUGH WORK SESSION IN THE DARK THE OTHER DAY. IT WAS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT AND YOU KNOW, IT EVEN I TRIED TO RECALL EXACTLY WHERE WE LANDED ON SOME OF THESE THOUGHTS AS WE WERE DISCUSSING THEM. BUT I THINK THAT MAYBE THE INTENT I HAD IN MY MIND WAS ONE AND TWO AND THEN THREE BEING SEPARATED OUT.
BUT I DON'T YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHTS ON THAT QUESTION. ALDERMAN JORDAN, YOU HAD A QUESTION. YES, I GOT A COUPLE. OF THE GREEN BELTS CONNECTED BETWEEN TOWNS AND GERMANTOWN AND COLLIERVILLE. ARE THEY CONNECTED? NOT YET, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT. OKAY. NOW, WHEN THEY ARE CONNECTED, DO YOU KNOW IF GERMANTOWN WOULD HAVE THE SAME ORDINANCE READING? IT SAYS YOU CANNOT RIDE ON THE GREEN BELT. IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN WE DO CONNECT, WHICH WE ARE WORKING HARD TO CONNECT. I DO KNOW AT THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THEIR WEBSITE, CLASS ONE, TWO AND THREE WERE NOT ALLOWED ON THEIR GREEN BELTS, BUT THEY MAY WATCH WHAT WE DO AND THEY MAY ADJUST AS WELL. SO WHAT'S THE REASON THAT IT'S HARD TO SAY. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ATTORNEY HAS SOME INPUT. YEAH. I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, OUR FIRM REPRESENTS GERMANTOWN AND I KNOW THAT THEY ARE WAITING FOR US TO ENACT OUR ORDINANCE AND THEN THEY'LL FOLLOW US. THEY'RE LOOKING FOR US TO TAKE THE LEAD, AND THEY'LL MODEL THEIR ORDINANCE AFTER OURS. SO THEY'VE BEEN SAYING, IF YOU OWN AN E-BIKE OR SOMETHING, YOU CAN'T RIDE A BIKE BETWEEN GERMANTOWN AND KIVA ON, ON THE GREEN BELT. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAID RIGHT NOW? I DON'T THINK THEY THEY'RE NOT AS FAR ALONG IN THE PROCESS AS WE ARE. AND THEY'RE WAITING FOR US TO COMPLETE THE PROCESS BEFORE THEY START THEIR OWN ORDINANCE. OKAY. AND MY OTHER QUESTION, PARKING ON THE FRONT LAWN, SHOULDN'T THAT BE DEFINED A LITTLE? I CAN UNDERSTAND IF YOU ARE ON A SMALLER LOT, NO PARKED CARS ON THE FRONT LAWN, BUT IF YOU'RE ON A LARGE LOT, SAY IF YOU'RE ON A COUPLE OF ACRES, YOU SAID NO CARS SHOULD BE ON THE FRONT LAWN, PERIOD. SO IF YOU'RE HAVING A BIRTHDAY PARTY AT YOUR HOUSE, A LARGE FRONT LAWN, AND YOU CANNOT PARK A CAR ON YOUR FRONT LAWN. I UNDERSTAND IF YOU
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GOT A SMALL LOT. THERE IS AN EXCEPTION FOR SPECIAL EVENTS THAT ARE COVERED IN OUR ORDINANCE. IT COULD BE A PRIVATE PROPERTY EVENT, IT COULD BE A PUBLIC EVENT. AND THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS FOR PROPERTY ZONED FAR, WHICH IS TYPICALLY FIVE ACRES OR LARGER, AND AGRICULTURAL ZONED USES AND ACTIVITIES WHICH TYPICALLY DON'T HAVE PAVED, PAVED DRIVEWAYS. SO THE ORDINANCE DOES TRY TO ANTICIPATE SCENARIOS WHERE THERE MIGHT BE PARKING ON THE LAWN, BUT WE CAN REVISIT THOSE. IF THOSE ARE NOT F.A.R. IT DOES NOT APPLY.CORRECT. IT WOULD NOT APPLY IN THE FAR ZONING DISTRICT. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I HAD ONE QUESTION. AND IF AND I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT ON IF WE HAD. BUT I WANT TO HAVE THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FIRST, AND THEN I THINK I'LL HAVE QUESTIONS FOR CAPTAIN EDDIE. BUT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF AT THIS TIME? I FORGOT ALDERMAN JORDAN. IT'S ABOUT THE WHEN WHEN THIS ORDINANCE IS IS, YOU KNOW, PASSED AND YOU'RE GIVING CLASSES TO TO PEOPLE. WOULD THAT BE REQUIRED FOR EVERYONE IN THE CITY WHO OWN THE E-BIKE OR JUST IF YOU WANT, ATTEND THESE CLASSES? NOW, THAT SAID, I BELIEVE THEY'RE OPTIONAL. I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ANY REQUIRED CLASS REQUIREMENT OR A PERMIT AT THIS TIME, BUT WE'LL LET CAPTAIN EDDIE ADDRESS THAT. MAYOR, WE HAVE NOT TALKED ABOUT WHETHER IT'LL BE MANDATORY OR OPTIONAL. OKAY. WE HAVEN'T REACHED THAT IN THE DISCUSSION PROCESS YET.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL GO TO THE. MY AGENDA HERE. THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND I DO HAVE MANY COMMENT CARDS. AND DO YOU NEED ME TO GO THROUGH THE RULES AGAIN OR DO YOU ALL REMEMBER THE RULES? I THINK WE GOT THE RULES. OKAY. I HAVE MY GAVEL. IF YOU DON'T BEHAVE HERE. ALL RIGHT. THE FIRST ONE FOR THREE MINUTES IS. AND THESE ARE JUST HOW THEY WERE HANDED TO ME. CHRIS MUELLER. MR. MUELLER OR MISS MUELLER? MR. MUELLER. OKAY.
YOU'RE GOING TO SET THE TONE HEAR YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. AND IF YOU'LL WATCH THE LIGHT, PLEASE. THANK YOU. SURE. I WILL DO MY BEST. CHRIS MUELLER 897 STONEHEDGE COVE AND HERE IN COLLIERVILLE. GREETINGS, MAYOR. ALDERMAN, THANKS FOR HAVING US. I HAPPEN TO BE THE VICE PRESIDENT OR A VICE PRESIDENT OF MUELLER INDUSTRIES. HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH US. WE'RE THE LARGEST PUBLIC COMPANY HEADQUARTERED HERE IN COLLIERVILLE, BUT I'M HERE REPRESENTING MY NEIGHBORS AND AND FELLOW CYCLISTS. MY HOUSE IS LESS THAN A MILE FROM HERE. SO OVER BY WHAT'S NOW COLLIERVILLE WEST. MOST OF THE RIDING WE WOULD DO WOULD BE HEADING EAST. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT ANYONE ON THE BIKE OR A PEDAL ASSIST BIKE, WHAT I THINK OF E-BIKES TRYING TO HEAD EAST, YOUR OPTIONS ARE REALLY FRANK ROAD. THAT'S PRETTY DANGEROUS.
POPLAR AVENUE, NOBODY LIKES THAT. OR WE CAN GET ON WOLF RIVER BOULEVARD, WHICH IS KIND OF THE DEFAULT ASSUMPTION. I CAN GET ON WOLF RIVER BOULEVARD AT SHELBY FARMS AND BIKE ALL THE WAY TO MY HOUSE THROUGH MEMPHIS, YOU KNOW, THROUGH GERMANTOWN BIKE LANE THE WHOLE TIME I CROSS HOUSTON LEVEE ROAD, AND SUDDENLY I'M ON A ROAD THAT ACTUALLY DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SHOULDER. THE WHITE LINE IS NORMALLY THERE, BUT IN SOME CASES THE WHITE LINE IS ACTUALLY BROKEN OFF THE ROAD. AND SO THERE'S REALLY NOWHERE FOR US TO BE. I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A STRONG OPINION ON THE PEDAL ASSIST BEYOND ONE PEDAL ASSIST. ONE IS USED BY A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN CYCLING FOR YEARS AND KNOW THE RULES OF THE ROAD AND ARE BEING SAFE. CERTAINLY THE CLASS THREE AND FOUR OR E MOTOS, I THINK THEY'RE ON THE GRAPHIC, HAVE BEEN DANGEROUS. I SEE THEM ON THE GREEN LINE. I SEE KIDS SHOOTING UP TRAILS AND BRINGING MUD ON THE GREEN LINE. I MEAN, THEY HAVE A THROTTLE. THAT'S A VERY DIFFERENT THING. THE NUMBER OF THEM IN THE LAST. I SEE WHY THIS HAS COME UP BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF THEM IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS HAS GROWN EXTENSIVELY. SO THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT AND MOST PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO GET AROUND TOWN. BUT I WOULD POINT OUT THAT IF THE THE GREENWAYS AND THE BIKE LANES IN COLLIERVILLE TIED TOGETHER BETTER, EVERYONE WOULD HAVE OPTIONS TO GET AROUND. NOBODY HATES ON CYCLISTS WHEN WE'RE IN A BIKE LANE. SO THAT SAME
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DEPICTION WHEN I'M COMING ALL THE WAY THROUGH TOWN ON WOLF RIVER, THE CARS JUST PASS ME AND THEY MAY PASS ME FAST OR SLOW, BUT THEY DON'T CARE BECAUSE I'M NOT IN THEIR WAY.BUT AS SOON AS I GET INTO COLLIERVILLE, EVERY ROAD I'M ON, I'M IN SOMEBODY'S WAY. AND THAT'S WHEN TEMPERS FLARE AND UGLY THINGS CAN HAPPEN. SO I JUST WANT TO ENCOURAGE THIS PROCESS, WHICH WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. AND I MEAN, I WAS ABLE TO COME HERE OVER A DECADE AGO REPRESENTING THE CYCLE FOR SAFETY COMMUNITY, THE SAFE RIDE THAT WE'VE DONE HERE FOR FOR YEARS AND PROVIDE MONEY FOR THE SIGNS. BUT I DON'T REALLY FEEL LIKE THE BIKE LANE SITUATION HAS IMPROVED MUCH, CERTAINLY WHERE IT TIES TOGETHER IN SOME PLACES, THE BIKE LANES ACTUALLY COME AND GO, AND WHEN THEY DO THAT, IT ACTUALLY ALMOST MAKES IT WORSE BECAUSE YOU GET SHOVED BACK IN FRONT OF TRAFFIC WHEN THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING IT. SO THAT'S MY TIME. THANK YOU, MR. MUELLER. WE APPRECIATE IT. AND WE'RE GLAD MUELLER INDUSTRIES IS IN HARDEEVILLE AS WELL. THE NEXT COMMENT CARD IS TIM TAYLOR. MR. ARE YOU YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE A.
TIM. RHONDA. RHONDA. OKAY. OKAY. SO, TIM, ARE YOU DONATING YOUR TIME TO RHONDA? YES, IF SHE NEEDS IT. SO, RHONDA, YOU HAVE UP TO SIX MINUTES. AND IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. MY NAME IS RHONDA TAYLOR, AND MY ADDRESS IS 1275 BELFORD DRIVE, HERE IN CARTERVILLE. I JUST WANT TO DO A LITTLE CLARIFICATION. I HAVE AN ELECTRIC BIKE SHOP HERE IN GERMANTOWN, AND WE HAVE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE KIDS RIDING AROUND THE BIKES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE ARE DIFFERENT CLASSES THAT ARE REGULATED AND THAT IS CLASS ONE, CLASS TWO, AND CLASS THREE, A CLASS THREE BICYCLE THAT'S THAT IS ACTUALLY REGULATED, DOES NOT GO OVER 20 MILES AN HOUR WITH THE THROTTLE. SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, THESE E MOTOS THAT THEY'RE COMING UP WITH, THESE KIDS ARE RIDING ON, THEY CAN GO OVER 28 MILES AN HOUR. THE WATTAGE OF THEIR BIKE IS EVEN HIGHER. AND SO THEY'RE PUTTING THEMSELVES AT RISK WITHOUT WEARING HELMETS AND SAFETY. AND WE'RE REALLY, YOU KNOW, INTERESTED IN PROVIDING SAFETY FOR OUR CHILDREN AND IN ORDER FOR THEM TO STAY SAFE. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MY HUSBAND GREW UP MOTORCYCLE RIDING AND A LOT OF THESE BIKES ARE MORE OFF ROAD THAT WHAT THEY'RE GETTING, THEIR PARENTS ARE BUYING THESE OFF ROAD BIKES SO THAT THEY SHOULD BE AN OFF ROAD ENVIRONMENT. THEY SHOULDN'T BE ON THE STREETS. THEY'RE NOT REGULATED TO BE ON THE STREETS. SO THEY SHOULD BE OFF THE STREETS. IF YOU'RE REGULATED BICYCLE, YOU'RE PROBABLY RESPONSIBLE BICYCLE RIDER OR YOU'VE HAD SOME KIND OF TRAINING, LIKE SOMEBODY WHO HAS A CYCLIST THEY'VE BEEN RIDING ALL THEIR LIFE. WELL, WE HAVE DECIDED THAT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THE SAFETY. AND WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING BACK ON BIKE RIDING. YOU KNOW, PEOPLE OVER 60 RIGHT NOW ARE GETTING BACK ON BIKE RIDING. AND THAT'S A LARGE OF ONE OF OUR LARGEST, YOU KNOW, DEMOGRAPHICS. AND WHAT WE FIND IS, LIKE THE GENTLEMAN WAS SAYING EARLIER, THERE IS NO BIKE LANES IN COLLIERVILLE. AND THE ONE THING THAT WE DO LIKE IS THAT WHEN WE'RE BIKE RIDING, WE LIKE TO BE ON A TRAIL. I MEAN, YOU GOT RAILS TO TRAILS EVERYWHERE NOW, AND WE'RE NOT PROVIDING ANY, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET BACK. ENJOY LIFE RIGHT NOW.
THEY USED TO RIDE THEIR BIKES WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER, BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING PROHIBITED BY CHILDREN WHO ARE BEING IRRESPONSIBLE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT BRINGS UP. THE PART IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, A OFF ROAD MOUNTAIN BIKE COMMUNITY THAT THEY'RE STARTING TO BUILD MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS. WELL, IF YOU HAVE AN OFF ROAD VEHICLE OFF ROAD BIKE, THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE AN OFF ROAD TRAIL AVAILABLE TO YOU. I MEAN, YOU GO TO BENTONVILLE, ARKANSAS, THEY HAVE MOUNTAIN BIKE TRAILS UP THERE. THEY HAVE TRAIL RIDING FOR PEOPLE THAT WALK, PEOPLE WALKING. AND THERE'S THERE'S PROBABLY LESS USAGE IN COLLIERVILLE BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THAT MANY PEOPLE WALKING IN COLLIERVILLE. AND I DO RIDE THE GREEN LINE ON MY ELECTRIC BIKE. AND I'M GUILTY BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO BE ON A ROAD WHERE THERE'S NO SAFETY AND I'M RIDING MY BIKE RESPONSIBLE. THEN I'M GOING TO TELL PEOPLE, HEY, TO YOUR LEFT, YOU KNOW, AND IF THE PEOPLE WEARING THE EARBUDS IN THEIR EARS, IT WOULDN'T MATTER IF I WAS WALKING TO YOU. YOU'RE GOING TO BE SCARED ANYWAY. IF I'M WALKING TO YOUR LEFT, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST LIKE YOU JUST HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE. AND THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANT FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT YOU SHOULDN'T BAN, YOU KNOW, RESPONSIBLE RIDERS AND UNDERSTAND THE CLASSIFICATIONS THAT THEY ARE CLASSIFIED. AND FOR CHILDREN THAT ARE OVER THE AGE FOR 16 AND ANYONE YOUNGER, THEY'RE NOT. THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE AN E-BIKE. IF THEY WANT AN E-SCOOTER, GET THEM AN E-SCOOTER, BUT THEIR PARENTS ARE BUYING WITH THESE KIDS WANT AND WE'VE SEEN IT FIRSTHAND. I SAW A TEN YEAR OLD BOY AND HE'S TRYING TO COME IN HERE. HIS GRANDMOTHER BOUGHT HIM A BIKE AND IT'S LIKE, HONEY, THAT BIKE AIN'T GOING TO FIT THAT LITTLE BOY. AND HE'S WAY TOO YOUNG. THEY'RE NOT SMART ENOUGH TO FIGURE OUT A LOT OF WHAT'S GOING ON. AND THEY TAKE IT FOR GRANTED. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE A THROTTLE ON YOUR MOTORCYCLE, AND IF YOU HAVE PEGS AND YOU DON'T HAVE PEDALS, THEN YOU CAN KNOW RIGHT AWAY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN E-BIKE. THERE'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT MOTIVATION ON THAT RIGHT THERE. AND ALL THE STORES ARE SELLING YOU SOMETHING. THEY'RE SELLING YOU. THESE KIDS ARE SEEING IT, I KNOW IT, THEY LOVE IT. THEY'RE BOYS, AND MOST OF THEM
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ARE BOYS. YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF GIRLS. AND UNFORTUNATELY, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GET PEOPLE TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND SAFETY ON THESE BICYCLES. AND I JUST KNOW THAT THERE ARE SPECIFIC CLASSES AND ADULTS ARE JUST ENJOYING THESE AS WELL TOO. SO IF WE HAVE TO WIDEN OUR TRAILS, GET PEOPLE BACK AND GET ACTIVE, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SO WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.THANK YOU, MAYOR AND ALDERMEN. THANK YOU, MRS. TAYLOR. AND MR. TAYLOR, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? YOU HAVE A MINUTE OR TWO? NO. I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I'M 65. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO GET OUT TO RIDE BIKES. I MEAN, AS WE GET OLDER, WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE WHEN WE WERE ALL YOUNGER.
SO I THINK THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BIKE AND A MOTO. THOSE ARE BASICALLY A MOTORCYCLE WITH ELECTRIC. THEY GO UP 50 MILES AN HOUR AT LEAST. I UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS WE'RE SEEING ALL OVER THE PLACE. WE DON'T SELL ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE ONLY SELL THE CLASS TWO. AND, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY A BIKE THAT YOU CAN, AS YOU GET TIRED, YOU CAN USE A THROTTLE PEDAL TO SEE US. SO I DON'T WANT TO TALK ANYMORE. I WAS JUST SO IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE ALL GETTING OLDER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GET TIRED TO GET BACK HOME. WE DO HAVE SOME HELP. AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE A POINT. SO THERE'S JUST A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN E MOTO AND AN E-BIKE. SO THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.
OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE NEXT CARD IS MISS HOLLY SKAGGS, MISS HOLLY. HOLLY SKAGGS FOR 64 OAK COVE. CARVEL. SO THE ONE THING I WANT US TO ALL THINK ABOUT LISTENING TO THEM IS WE DO HAVE KIDS THAT WANT TO ENJOY THE TOWN. YES, I DO HAVE A 13 YEAR OLD BOY THAT HAS AN E-BIKE.
I THINK HE'S GOT CLASS THREE. I DON'T EVEN KNOW. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT EARLIER, BUT WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND GIVE THEM SOME RULES. AND I AM THE FIRST ONE TO SAY, WHAT DID YOU DO NOT OH, MY KID DIDN'T DO IT. BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF PARENTS IN THIS TOWN THAT DO THAT. MY PARENTS, MY KID DIDN'T DO IT, BUT MY KID IS ALWAYS THE ONE I'M I'M LIKE, OKAY, WHAT'D YOU DO FIRST? WE'VE ALREADY HAD A RUN IN WITH THE TOWN OF CARVEL. WE'VE ALREADY HAD COPS STOP HIM AND ASK HIM IF HE'S DOING WHAT HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. BUT I THINK THE FIRST THING THEY NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO HAVE A CERTIFICATION CLASS. THEY NEED TO BE TAUGHT.
HE RAISED HIS OWN MONEY AND BOUGHT HIS HIS BIKE, AND THAT'S LIKE HIS PRIDE AND JOY. HE WORKS ON IT. HE'S NOT IN THE HOUSE ON A DEVICE. THAT IS WHAT A LOT OF US PARENTS ARE TRYING TO GET OUR KIDS OUT OF THE HOUSE. SO YES, I APPRECIATE THE RULES. I WANT HIM TO HAVE RULES.
HE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THERE ARE RULES, BUT HE ALSO COULD ALSO BE TAUGHT SOME THINGS AND NOT PUNISHED BECAUSE HE'S NOT 16 PER SE. HE HAS HE HAS GEAR. I DO THINK A HELMET RULE NEEDS TO COME INTO PLAY. I'VE SEEN SEVERAL SEVERAL KIDS WITH JUST A BICYCLE HELMET. THERE NEEDS TO BE A FULL FACE HELMET WITH IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE RIDING ON CLASS TWO AND THREE. BUT I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING FOR THIS. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT THEIR CHILDREN. WE ALL GREW UP DOING ALL THIS. IT'S NOT FAIR TO TAKE EVERYTHING AWAY FROM THEM BECAUSE OF AN AGE. WE ALL RODE FOUR WHEELERS IN THESE FIELDS. WE ALL DID ALL THAT STUFF, SO WE NEED TO TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. ALSO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE NEXT CARD IS BRIAN BURNS, AND MR. BURNS HAD A HANDOUT THAT WAS OFFERED, SO YOU SHOULD ■HAVE THAT AT YOUR STATION. IT'S ADA CONCERNS. IF YOU CAN FIND THAT. MR. BURNS, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, I APPRECIATE IT. MY NAME IS BRIAN BURNS. I LIVE AT 1405 HUNTER'S MILL TRAIL HERE IN KERRVILLE. I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE HAS A SERIOUS, ALTHOUGH LIKELY UNINTENDED, CONSEQUENCE. IT APPEARS TO VIOLATE THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT.
THE ADA PROTECTS THE RIGHTS OF DISABLED INDIVIDUALS TO USE WHAT IT DEFINES AS OTHER POWER DRIVEN MOBILITY DEVICES OR OP DMDS. THESE INCLUDE ANY POWER DEVICE USED BY SOMEONE WITH A MOBILITY DISABILITY FOR LOCOMOTION, SEGWAYS, E-BIKES, OR IF IT'S AN ELECTRIC OR SMALL POWERED PLATFORM, IT QUALIFIES FOR PROTECTION UNDER THE ADA WHEN IT'S USED BY FOR DISABLED USE. THIS IS PERSONAL FOR MY FAMILY. MY WIFE HAS A MOBILITY DISABILITY, AND SHE RELIES ON A DEVICE THAT USES E-BIKE COMPONENTS ON A CHAIR PLATFORM TO ACCESS STREET SIDEWALKS AND GREENBELTS IN THE TOWN. IT'S NOT A WHEELCHAIR. IT'S NOT A RECREATIONAL E-BIKE UNDER FEDERAL LAW. IT'S AN OP DMD AND IT'S HOW SHE PARTICIPATES IN COMMUNITY LIFE. BUT UNDER THESE PROPOSED ORDINANCES, IT'S A MICRO MOBILITY DEVICE THAT WOULD BE ILLEGALLY RESTRICTED.
FIVE PARTS OF THESE ORDINANCES CREATE PROBLEMS. I HAVE DETAILED EACH ON THE HANDOUT
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THAT YOU'VE GOT. I SHOULD ALSO MENTION I'M NOT A LAWYER, SO THIS IS JUST MY OWN INTERPRETATION. FIRST SECTION 7115 B NEVER DEFINES OP DMDS IT NEVER DEFINES THESE TYPES OF THINGS. SO THEY FALL INTO THE BUCKET. MICRO MOBILITY DEVICE DEFINITION, WHICH HAS THE MOST RESTRICTIONS ON IT. AND AS, AS AS WELL. SECTION 7115 D TWO BANS ALL MICRO MOBILITY DEVICES ON TRAILS AND GREENBELTS AND REQUIRES CERTAIN SIDEWALK RIDERS RIDERS TO DISABLE THEIR MOTORS WITHOUT EVER CONDUCTING THE SAFETY ASSESSMENT THE ADA REQUIRES. AGAIN, THE ORDINANCE IS BLOCK BY DEVICE, THE ADA SAYS YOU CAN'T BASED ON CERTAIN USES. SAME THING BASICALLY APPLIES FOR MOTOR DEVICES WITH THE. THE ASSESSMENT GAP FOR SECTION 904 BANS THESE DEVICES FROM TOWN HALL, LIBRARY AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER. JUST A BLANKET BAN POTENTIALLY BLOCKING DISABLED FROM DISABLED RESIDENTS FROM BASIC GOVERNMENT SERVICES. AND FINALLY, SECTION 7115 G EXEMPTS TOWN AND EMERGENCY VEHICLES, BUT INCLUDES NO EQUIVALENT PROTECTION FOR DISABLED RESIDENTS, A GAP THAT ALSO RUNS THROUGH SECTION 904. I'D ASK THE BOARD TO DIRECT LEGAL COUNSEL IN YOUR ADA COORDINATOR TO CONSIDER TWO CHANGES, BOTH DETAILED WITH EXACT LANGUAGE IN YOUR HANDOUT. FIRST, ADD A DEFINITION FOR DMD DEVICES TO YOUR SECTION 7115 B YOUR OVERALL DEFINITION OF MOBILITY DEVICES. AND SECOND, ADD AN ADA SAVINGS CLAUSE TO SECTION 71, 15 G AND 904, WHICH BASICALLY GIVES THE SAME CARVE OUT EXCEPTION THAT YOU ALLOW FOR TOWN AND EMERGENCY DEVICES WHEN THEY'RE USED BY DISABLED PEOPLE FOR MOBILITY PURPOSES. THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO ALLOW EVERY TYPE OF DEVICE TO BE USED IN EVERY LOCATION BY EVERY PERSON. THE ADA STILL LETS YOU SET SAFETY REQUIREMENTS AND DO THE OTHER THINGS TO MAINTAIN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT. IT JUST REQUIRES JUST MANDATES THAT THESE REQUIREMENTS GO THROUGH THE SPECIFIC ASSESSMENT THAT THE ADA CALLS FOR, RATHER THAN BLANKET RULES THAT DON'T DISTINGUISH RECREATIONAL DEVICES FROM MOBILITY AIDS. YOU DID MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO CARVE IT OUT. THERE'S AN EXEMPTION FOR ELECTRIC WHEELCHAIRS AND MOBILITY SCOOTERS, BUT THAT'S NOT INCLUSIVE ENOUGH IN THE DEFINITION OF DEVICES. I'D RATHER SEE THIS FIXED BEFORE ADOPTION THAN HAVE RESIDENTS FORCED INTO ADA GRIEVANCES AFTER THE FACT. SO WE APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I THINK THAT IS OUR INTENT TO MAKE SURE THAT GETS ADDRESSED APPROPRIATELY. AND OUR TOWN ATTORNEY AND ADMINISTRATORS ARE SHAKING THEIR HEADS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND WITH THIS, ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE NOT AN ATTORNEY? THIS IS PRETTY GOOD. OKAY.ADVOCATE FOR MY WIFE'S RIGHTS AND WE APPRECIATE THAT. I'M SURE SHE DOES AS WELL. THE NEXT COMMENT CARD IS REBECCA MCGILL, WHO IS DONATING HER TIME TO KEVIN MCGILL. AND KEVIN MCGILL IS NEXT. AND YOU HAVE UP TO SIX MINUTES, SIR. HI, MY NAME IS KEVIN MCGILL, NINE THREE, SIX YORKTOWN ROAD. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR APPROXIMATELY 25 YEARS. I'M SITTING HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE COMMUNICATION WITH THIS BOARD AND ITS RESIDENTS HAS BROKEN DOWN. AUGUST 4TH I EMAILED THE MAYOR AND ALDERMEN REGARDING CONCERNS ABOUT PUBLIC ALDERMEN COMMENTS MADE DURING THIS PROCESS, AND HAVE NOT RECEIVED ONE RESPONSE. HOWEVER, WE'LL MOVE ON, BUT I WANT TO BE CLEAR WHEN I START, I SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY, RESPONSIBLE WRITING AND REGULATIONS, BUT I DON'T SUPPORT AN ORDINANCE THAT APPEARS TO TARGET A PARTICULAR GROUP OR TRANSPORTATION USERS.
RATHER THAN ADDRESSING UNSAFE BEHAVIOR ITSELF. UNDER ORDINANCE 26-3, CLASS ONE, TWO, AND THREE E-BIKES WILL BE PROHIBITED FROM GREENBELT TRAILS TWO AND THREE ON SIDEWALKS. MOBILITY DEVICES WOULD BE RESTRICTED TO ROADS WITH SPEED LIMITS OF 20MPH OR LESS. THE JUST THE JUSTIFICATION REPEATEDLY DISCUSSES PUBLIC DURING PUBLIC MEETINGS HAS BEEN SAFETY, PARTICULARLY SPEED. BUT AS SPEED IS A CONCERN, THEN I RESPECTFULLY ASK WHY THE ORDINANCE REFUSES THE TYPE OF BICYCLE RATHER THAN BEHAVIOR OF THE RIDER. A REASONABLE FIT CYCLIST ON A TRADITIONAL ROAD BIKE CAN EASILY REACH SPEEDS EXCEEDING 20 MILES AN HOUR. MANY COMPETITIVE AND RECREATIONAL CYCLISTS ROUTINELY TRAVEL AT SPEEDS EQUAL TO OR FASTER THAN CLASS ONE BIKES. IF TWO CYCLISTS ARE TRAVELING SIDE BY SIDE AND ONE EXCEEDS 20 MILES AN HOUR ON A BIKE, THEY'RE NOW GUILTY BY THIS ORDINANCE. WHILE THE REGULAR BIKE IS NOT. DO WE BAN SPORTS CARS OR DO WE BAN SPEED? THE QUESTION HAS NOT BEEN ANSWERED BECAUSE I WANT TO CONTINUE TO HEAR A DISCUSSION ABOUT SPEED.
WHILE THE ORDINANCE ITSELF DISCUSSES TECHNOLOGY. IF SPEED IS DANGEROUS, REGULATE SPEED, RECKLESS RIDING, REGULATE RECKLESS RIDING, A FAILURE TO YIELD, REGULATE FAILURE TO
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YIELD. BUT THE ORDINANCE THAT TREATS IDENTICAL BEHAVIOR DIFFERENTLY SOLELY BECAUSE ONE RIDER IS USING A BIKE IS REGULATING EQUIPMENT, NOT CONDUCT. THIS DISTINGUISHED.THIS DISTINCTION MATTERS. IT MATTERS BECAUSE CARVER SPENT YEARS INVESTING AND PROMOTING ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION, BIKE ACCESS AND COMMUNITY CONNECTIVITY. THE TOWN GREENBELT SYSTEM, SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED AS INFRASTRUCTURE INTENDED TO CONNECT NEIGHBORHOODS, PARKS, SCHOOLS, COMMERCIAL AREAS WHILE PROVIDING ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. THE TOWN HAS ALSO PURSUED GREENBELT EXPANSION PROJECTS, INCLUDING STATE FUNDED INVESTMENTS TO EXPAND ACCESS OF CONNECTIVITY TO ADDITIONAL TRAIL NETWORKS. TOWN HAS TOWN OFFICIALS HAVE REPEATEDLY HIGHLIGHTED THE GREENBELT SYSTEM, ONE OF THE MOST VALUABLE COMMUNITY ASSETS YET. TONIGHT, WE'RE CONSIDERING AN ORDINANCE THAT WOULD PROHIBIT ALL CLASS OF E-BIKES FROM THE SAME GREENBELT, BUT NOT REGULAR BIKES. I BELIEVE RESIDENTS DESERVE TO KNOW WHAT SPECIFIC EVIDENCE JUSTIFIES SUCH A SWEEPING RESTRICTION. WHAT DATA SUPPORTS A COMPLETE BAN? HAVE THERE BEEN INCIDENTS AND WHAT SAFETY STUDIES SUPPORT THIS BAN? WHAT DOCUMENT FINDINGS DEMONSTRATE THAT A RESPONSIBLE OPERATOR, CLASS ONE ASSISTED BIKE PASSES, PRESENTS A DANGER SO SUBSTANTIAL THAT IT MUST BE PROHIBITED FROM EVERY GREENBELT TRAIL IN CARVER? THOSE QUESTIONS DESERVE ANSWERS BEFORE THIS ORDINANCE MOVES FORWARD. THE PROPOSAL ALSO CREATES A SIGNIFICANT CONNECTIVITY PROBLEM. RESIDENTS CONTINUE HEARING WHERE E-BIKES CAN'T GO. WHAT WE'VE NOT BEEN SHOWN IS WHERE THEY CAN GO. GREENBELTS WOULD BE UNAVAILABLE, SIDEWALKS WOULD HAVE LIMITED ACCESS OR GREATLY RESTRICTED, AND RIDERS WOULD BE LIMITED TO ROADS POSTED AT 20MPH OR LESS.
LOOK AT A MAP. MANY OF THE ROADS CONNECTING NEIGHBORHOODS TO PARKS, SCHOOLS, CHURCHES, COMMERCIAL CENTERS, THE TOWN SQUARE AND NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES EXCEED 20 MILES AN HOUR. THE RESULT IS NOT A TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. IT'S A DISCONNECTED COLLECTION OF ISOLATED ROUTES. RESIDENTS MAY BE ABLE TO RIDE AROUND A SUBDIVISION, BUT THEY NO LONGER HAVE A PRACTICAL WAY TO REACH DESTINATIONS ACROSS TOWN. THIS IS WHY I ASK AGAIN HAS THE TOWN COMPLETED A TRANSPORTATION CONNECTIVITY ANALYSIS DEMONSTRATING HOW RESIDENTS CAN LEGALLY AND SAFELY TRAVEL THROUGHOUT CARVER UNDER THE PROPOSED RESTRICTIONS. AND IF IT EXISTS, WHY HAS IT NOT BEEN PUBLICLY SHARED? I WOULD ALSO RESPECTFULLY ASK THE BOARD TO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. CAN THE BOARD IDENTIFY A LEGAL ROUTE UNDER ORDINANCE 2603 THAT WOULD ALLOW E-BIKE RIDER TO TRAVEL FROM A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE HISTORIC TOWN SQUARE, USING ONLY ROUTES PERMITTED BY THIS ORDINANCE? AND CAN THE BOARD IDENTIFY A LEGAL ROUTE FOR MAJOR RESIDENTIAL AREAS, SUCH AS SCHILLING FARMS OR THE WOLF RIVER CORRIDOR, OR SIMILAR NEIGHBORHOODS TO THE TOWN SQUARE, USING ONLY ROUTES PERMITTED UNDER 26-3. BECAUSE IF THE ANSWER IS THAT RIDERS ARE PROHIBITED FROM USING GREENBELTS OR MOST SIDEWALKS AND ONLY ROADS USING 20 MILES AN HOUR SPEED LIMITS, THEN THE. THEN THE. PRACTICALLY, THE PRACTICAL REALITY MAY BE THAT MANY DESTINATIONS IN CARVER BECOME INACCESSIBLE BY E-BIKE.
DESPITE SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC INVESTMENTS IN BICYCLE AND ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS QUESTION BECOMES EVEN MORE IMPORTANT WHEN CONSIDERING THE TOWN'S RECENT. I'M RUNNING OVER. BUT I HAD SIX MINUTES, DIDN'T I? SIX MINUTES? YES. OKAY. YOU DIDN'T TALK FAST ENOUGH, I SURE DIDN'T. SO BASICALLY MY MY CONCERNS ARE ACCESSIBILITY TO GETTING AROUND TOWN WITH THE JUST THINGS LIKE THE ARLINGTON ROAD DIET PROJECT. IT, IT BASICALLY ELIMINATES THAT FOR AN E-BIKE, EVEN THOUGH WE JUST DID IT AND WE'RE PROMOTING THAT. SO I HAVE A HANDOUT, BUT I DIDN'T PASS THEM OUT. IT'S GOT QUESTIONS THAT I'VE THAT I'VE MENTIONED. SO I WON'T CONTINUE TO GO OVER, BUT I THINK IT'S QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED BEFORE WE PROCEED WITH YOU HAVE A HANDOUT. YOU CAN GIVE IT TO OUR TOWN ATTORNEY AND HE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE EACH GET A COPY. YEAH, I'LL I'LL GRAB ONE AND BRING IT TO YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. MR. MCGILL. THE NEXT CARD IS JOHN CAP. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY, MR. CAP. AS STATED, MY NAME IS JOHN CAP. I'M AT 709 ROYAL FOREST, COLLIERVILLE. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR OVER 30 YEARS. I ALSO HAVE NOTHING AGAINST BICYCLES WHATSOEVER. I'M A FORMER CLASSIFIED BICYCLE RACER, BUT I WANT TO THANK THE BOARD FOR, FIRST OF ALL, FOR GIVING
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ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPRESS THESE COMMENTS. AND I ALSO THANK THE BOARD FOR ITS ATTENTION TO THE PUBLIC INTEREST REGARDING THE SAFETY AND RESPONSIBLE OPERATION OF MICROMOBILITY DEVICES. RECENTLY, I HAVE NOTICED THE OPERATION OF SUCH DEVICES IN AN UNSAFE AND INCONSIDERATE MANNER, SPECIFICALLY PASSING TOO CLOSE, PASSING TOO FAST AND WITHOUT WARNING ON THE GREENBELT. SO THE MOST CONCERNING THING IS, NOW THAT I'M A GRANDPARENT, IS THE POSSIBILITY OF A SERIOUS OR LIFE THREATENING INJURY TO MY 2 OR 4 YEAR OLD. SO WITH OVER 100 POUNDS OF BICYCLE AND RIDER HITTING THEM AT 20 MILES AN HOUR. WHILE THE PROBLEM IS ULTIMATELY WITH THE OPERATOR, NOT THE VEHICLE, CERTAIN ENFORCEABLE RULES AND REGULATION ARE NECESSARY AS INDEED WITH ANY OTHER MOTORIZED VEHICLE. I'VE READ THROUGH THE MICROMOBILITY ORDINANCE, SECTION 7115 AND DO HAVE ONE SUGGESTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THAT BEING THE CLASSIFICATION AND TREATMENT OF CLASS ONE E-BIKES, SPECIFICALLY WHEN AN ELECTRIC MOTOR IS DISABLED, IF A CLASS ONE E-BIKE HAS THE ELECTRIC MOTOR DISABLED, DOES IT NOT BECOME A BICYCLE NOT MOTORIZED? AS SHOWN IN THE DRAFT REGULATIONS TABLE EXHIBIT ONE, PAGE ONE. PLEASE CONSIDER MY REQUEST TO CHANGE THE CATEGORIZATION OF CLASS ONE E-BIKES WITH DISABLED MOTORS TO THAT OF TRADITIONAL BICYCLES, KEEPING THE FOOTNOTE B REGARDING OPERATION AND A CAREFUL AND PRUDENT MANNER. THE PURPOSE OF MY CLASS ONE E-BIKE DISABLED MOTOR REQUEST IS TWOFOLD. ALLOW ANY PERSON WHO HAS ALREADY PURCHASED A CLASS ONE E-BIKE WIFE, RELATIVE OR FRIEND TO ACCOMPANY ME ON MY STANDARD BICYCLE RIDING GREENBELT TRAILS. THE SECOND REASON IS TO ALLOW THE USE OF THE GREENBELT TO TRANSITION FROM ONE PERMITTED AREA TO ANOTHER. PERMITTED RIDING AREA, IN OTHER WORDS, INCLUDE THE GREENBELT AS PART OF YOUR ROUTE, BUT NOT ALL IN THIS OVERALL BIKE ROUTE. THANKS AGAIN TO THE OPPORTUNITY THAT YOU'VE GIVEN ME TO MAKE THESE COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.WE APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT, MR. CAP. THE NEXT CARD IS GRETTA HUNTER.
GOOD EVENING, MISS HUNTER. IF YOU'LL SET YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. SURE. MY NAME IS GRETA HUNTER. I LIVE AT 4876 RAINY PASS IN COLLIERVILLE. THANK YOU.
I LIVE IN THE FLEMMING GARDEN SUBDIVISION. I AM A CLASS TWO, CLASS TWO E-BIKE OWNER. I AM 70 YEARS OLD AND LIKE WAS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. MY HUSBAND AND I PURCHASED BIKE, A BIKE AND E-BIKE, A CLASS TWO BIKE FOR TO GET MORE EXERCISE, TO GET OUT, TO ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF COLLIERVILLE. MY ISSUE WITH THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, THOUGH, IS THAT IT LIMITS CLASS TWO RIDERS TO STREETS THAT ARE 20 MILES AN HOUR, 20 MILES AN HOUR LIMIT, 20MPH LIMIT STREETS. OKAY, I LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION THAT HAS 25 MILES AN HOUR AS THE LIMIT, AND I CANNOT. UNDER THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE, I CANNOT RIDE MY BIKE IN THAT IN MY OWN SUBDIVISION, WHICH MEANS I HAVE TO PICK UP MY BIKE, PUT IT ON MY CAR, AND FIND A STREET THAT I CAN RIDE MY BIKE THAT IS 20 MILES AN HOUR. ALL RIGHT. AND SO I REALLY BELIEVE THAT E-BIKE OWNERS OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE SAME RIGHTS AS REGULAR BIKE OWNERS, AND THEY CAN DISENGAGE THE BIKE AND THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE IT POWERED UP, BUT THEY CAN DISENGAGE IT AND THAT THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO ENJOY THE CITY JUST LIKE A REGULAR BIKE. IF THE ISSUE IS SAFETY AROUND CHILDREN AND MINORS, ADDRESS THAT, ADDRESS THAT AND LET THAT BE THE DRIVER.
SO APPRECIATE YOU ALL FOR WHAT YOU DO. AND THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MRS. HUNTER, FOR YOUR INPUT. THE NEXT CARD IS LEO, OLD. MR. OLD. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. I'M LEO OLD. I LIVE AT 311 PARK MANOR LANE IN COLLIERVILLE. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 25 YEARS. I DON'T
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OWN AN E-BIKE OR A MICROMOBILITY DEVICE, BUT I AM AN AVID BICYCLIST. I'M ALSO A BOARD MEMBER OF THE MEMPHIS HIGH BICYCLE CLUB, AND I'M AN ASSISTANT COACH ON THE COLLIERVILLE HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOLS MOUNTAIN BIKE TEAM. SO I DO THINK THAT SOME OF THE PROVISIONS IN THE ORDINANCE MAKE SENSE, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO RETHINK THE RESTRICTION OF E-BIKES ON GREENBELT TRAILS AND ALSO THE RESTRICTION OF E-BIKES ON ROADS WITH SPEED LIMITS OVER 20 MILES AN HOUR, AS MULTIPLE PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT. BUT I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A FEW OTHER THINGS, A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, MAYBE OTHERS HAVEN'T MENTIONED. I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THAT OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD BE ONE THAT WELCOMES AND PROMOTES BICYCLING. AND I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW EXAMPLES HERE OF WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT. SO THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION, A NOT FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATION CALLED PEOPLE FOR BIKES. AND EACH YEAR THEY ASSESS OVER 3000 CITIES IN THE US AND RATE THE QUALITY OF BICYCLING IN THOSE CITIES. AND IN THE 2026 SURVEY, COLLIERVILLE RANKED 2,344TH OUT OF 3019 CITIES, WHICH PUTS US AT THE BOTTOM 22 PERCENTILE. IN THE STATE OF TENNESSEE, 28 CITIES WERE RANKED. WE RANKED 26, AHEAD OF ONLY MEMPHIS AND GERMANTOWN. ALSO, YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT THE TENNESSEE DEPARTMENT OF TOURISM AND DEVELOPMENT RECENTLY PUBLISHED A BIKE TENNESSEE WEBSITE, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO PROMOTE TENNESSEE AS A DESTINATION FOR BICYCLING. THERE ARE 89 SPECIFIC ROUTES LISTED ON THIS WEBSITE, BUT NOT ONE OF THEM COMES THROUGH COLLIERVILLE. THE CLOSEST ONES ARE MOSCOW, TENNESSEE, AND THERE'S SOME IN MEMPHIS AS WELL. AND THAT'S A SHAME BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF CYCLISTS THAT PASS THROUGH COLLIERVILLE AND THE TOWN SQUARE, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY CHARMING, HAPPENS TO BE A POPULAR PASS THROUGH SPOT IN REST SPOT FOR FOR CYCLISTS. AND THE LAST THING I'LL MENTION, YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT THE COLLIERVILLE HIGH SCHOOL AND MIDDLE SCHOOL MOUNTAIN BIKE TEAM HAS 54 YOUTH RIDERS ON IT IN 24 COACHES. IT IS THE LARGEST MOUNTAIN BIKING TEAM IN THE STATE OF TENNESSEE, WHICH IS IRONIC BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE TWO ROUGHLY TWO AND A HALF MILES OF MOUNTAIN BIKING TRAILS INSIDE COLLIERVILLE. SO ULTIMATELY I SUPPORT SAFETY.BUT AS OTHERS HAVE SAID, LET'S TARGET THE UNSAFE BEHAVIORS AND NOT THE EQUIPMENT NECESSARILY.
AND I THINK E-BIKES, PARTICULARLY CLASS ONE AND TWO E-BIKES, SHOULD BE ALLOWED ON TRAILS AND IN ROADS, AND WE SHOULD NOT LIMIT CYCLING OR E-BIKES ON ROADS UNDER 20 MILES AN HOUR. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MR. HOLT. WE APPRECIATE THIS VERY MUCH. AND THE LAST CARD I HAVE AND IS, BUT NOT LEAST, IS MR. JIM PRUITT, MR. PRUITT. GOOD EVENING, JIM PRUITT, 1300 SWEET RAIN DRIVE, COLLIERVILLE. I'M JUST READING WHAT I HAVE. I UNDERSTAND THE CONCERN BEHIND BEHIND THE THE ORDINANCE. NOBODY WANTS SIDEWALKS TO FEEL UNSAFE FOR THE PEOPLE WALKING ON THEM, BUT I'D ASK THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A NARROWER FIX RATHER THAN A BLANKET BAN. ALLOW E-BIKES ON SIDEWALKS, CONDITION ON GOOD VISIBILITY AND A SPEED RULE. RIDERS CAN PASS. A PEDESTRIAN CAN'T PASS A PEDESTRIAN AT MORE THAN ONE MILE AN HOUR FASTER THAN THE PEDESTRIAN IS WALKING. THIS KEEPS SIDEWALKS CALM WHILE TAKING AWAY A MODE OF TRANSPORTATION WITHOUT TAKING AWAY A MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.
THAT'S BECOME GENUINELY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS. I WANT TO GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES. NOT LONG AGO, I WATCHED AN ELDERLY COUPLE RIDE A FOUR LOW, FOUR WHEELED ELECTRIC VEHICLE NEAR A LOCAL CHURCH. THE WIFE RODE UP AND DOWN THE LAWN SMILING. YOU COULD TELL SHE WAS GIVING. IT WAS GIVING HER A FREEDOM SHE HADN'T HAD IN A LONG TIME. HER HUSBAND, RIDING ALONGSIDE HER, LOOKED A LITTLE MORE NERVOUS ABOUT THE WHOLE THING. THAT'S HONESTLY THE TENSION THIS ORDINANCE NEEDS TO SOLVE. HOW DO WE KEEP THE FREEDOM? AND THEN, AND WITHOUT IT FEELING RISKY TO SOMEONE LIKE HIM OR A PEDESTRIAN WALKING BY. SECOND EXAMPLE THERE'S A GROUP OF KIDS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, INCLUDING THE TEN YEAR OLD BOY THAT RIDES
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HIS E-BIKE TOGETHER AFTER SCHOOL. FULL FACE HELMETS, EVERY ONE OF THEM MOVING FAST ON OUR QUIET RESIDENTIAL STREETS. I'VE WATCHED THEM RIDE FOR A WHILE NOW. I'VE NEVER SEEN A WRECK. THEY'RE CAREFUL. THEY'RE HAVING A GREAT TIME. A BAND THAT PUSHES KIDS LIKE THIS OFF SIDEWALKS AND ONTO THE STREET ISN'T OBVIOUSLY SAFER. IT JUST MOVES THE RISK SOMEWHERE ELSE. A OF FLAT BAN TREATS A RESPONSIBLE SENIOR ON A SLOW LAWN CRUISER AND A CARELESS RIDER THE SAME WAY I'D ASK YOU TO REGULATE BEHAVIOR, VISIBILITY AND SPEED NEAR PEDESTRIANS RATHER THAN BANNING THE DEVICE ITSELF. THAT PROTECTS THE SIDEWALK WITHOUT SHUTTING OUT PEOPLE WHO GENUINELY NEED AND LOVE THESE VEHICLES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. PRUITT. WE APPRECIATE THAT WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME, AND WE ARE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. ANYONE HAVE ANY INPUT, COMMENTS? DIRECTION? I, I PERSONALLY BELIEVE WE HAVE QUITE A BIT MORE WORK TO DO BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED THIS EVENING, AND I THINK IT'S A LITTLE PREMATURE TO, I GUESS, APPROVE THIS ON SECOND READING.OR WE COULD, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE SOME CHANGES IN DELAY THE THIRD READING. SO I'M OPEN FOR INPUT FROM MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS AND OUR TOWN ADMINISTRATOR. I THINK SLOWING THESE PROCESSES DOWN IS WHAT I WAS HOPING FOR FROM DAY ONE. SO THE IDEA THAT WE COULD TAKE ANOTHER BREATHER AND WORK A LITTLE HARDER TO GET SOME VERBIAGE MORE ACCURATE MAKES ME FEEL GOOD. OKAY. LOVE THAT. ANYONE ON THIS SIDE? YEAH. MAYOR. YES. I THINK SOME PEOPLE, EVERYBODY BROUGHT UP SOME EXCELLENT POINTS. I HEARD THE MOST. WHAT CAME OUT THE MOST WAS BEHAVIOR IDENTIFIED THE BEHAVIOR INSTEAD OF THE E-BIKES. AND I THINK THAT WAS A, A GREAT POINT THAT WE STARTED OUT, WE WERE STARTING TO TALK. AND I THINK WE BROADENED THIS CONVERSATION TO REALLY LET A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION IN TO CONSIDER. IT'S, IT'S REALLY BEEN A HARD THING TO REGULATE. I MEAN, IT'S WE IDENTIFY THE PROBLEMS. AND THAT WAS EASY TO DO WITH SPEED AND YOUNG KIDS AND SAFETY. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER FACTORS THAT GO ALONG WITH THIS. AND SO I WOULD BEFORE, YES, DELAYING THIS AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A BETTER RESOLUTION. OKAY. YES. AND I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO I THINK THAT MISS SKAGGS MADE MADE A GOOD POINT. I KNOW IN OUR WORK SESSION, FOR THOSE THAT WERE THERE, THERE WAS THE DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW 15 YEAR OLDS CAN GET A CERTIFICATION FOR A WAVERUNNER IF IF THAT IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER FOR THOSE THAT ARE WILLING TO GO THROUGH THAT CERTIFICATION AND LEARN THE THE RULES OF THE ROAD TO POSSIBLY NOT BE PROHIBITED. I SEE KIDS ON A BIKE THAN IN FRONT OF A SCREEN. SO. RIGHT, JUST MY THOUGHTS. CAN WE MOVE THE SCREEN, IF POSSIBLE, TO THE POSSIBLE MOTIONS PLEASE? SO WE HAVE THE PROPOSED MOTION TO APPROVE ON SECOND READING.
ALTERNATE ONE IS TO APPROVE ON SECOND READING AND DELAY THE THIRD READING OR TWO SECOND READING WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS. CAN I ADD ONE MORE THING? YES, SIR. I YOU KNOW, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHAT STAFF HAS PUT TOGETHER, IN MY OPINION, IS GETTING CLOSE WHAT WE HAVE. THAT IS A POTENTIAL PROPOSED MOTION FOR TONIGHT THAT WAS ON THE SCREEN EARLIER.
IT IS BEGINNING TO ADDRESS A LOT OF THE CONCERNS. WE'VE HEARD THE CONSIDERATION OF ACCESSIBILITY, ADA AND THINGS LIKE THAT. HOW DO WE DEFINE A RESIDENTIAL CORRIDOR VERSUS A 20 MILE PER HOUR STREET? I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME FINE TUNING I SEE THAT WE CAN DO, AND I THINK IT'LL JUST BE EASIER AND LESS MESSY AND HAVING TO REVISE AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN BY DOING IT QUIETLY AND BRINGING IT BACK. AND SO I THINK I THINK WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PAGE. I JUST DON'T WANT STAFF TO ALSO FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. I MEAN, THAT YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE. WE'RE GETTING THERE. WE'RE ALMOST THERE. I THINK I THINK OUR TOWN ADMINISTRATOR HAS SOME INPUT ON PROCESS MAYOR, BOARD MEMBERS, BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH PUBLIC INTEREST IN THE PROPOSED REGULATIONS, AND THERE'S STILL A LOT MORE FINE TUNING TO DO. YOU COULD ALSO TABLE TONIGHT'S THE SECOND READING IN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. ONCE WE HAVE MORE TIME TO REEVALUATE THE REGULATIONS AND JUST HAVE A CONTINUATION, ESSENTIALLY OF TONIGHT'S MEETING TO, TO GIVE STAFF SOME ADDITIONAL TIME TO LOOK, TAKE THE INPUT THAT WE HEARD HERE TONIGHT, THE INPUT THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE BOARD AND PUT SOMETHING FORWARD. AND AGAIN, ALLOW THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO PROVIDE THEIR INPUT, QUESTION THE PORTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE ADDRESSING, SAY, THE, THE FOOD TRUCKS. ARE YOU ARE YOU PROPOSING THAT WE POSSIBLY
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DELAY ALL OF IT OR PASS THOSE AND AMEND THE THE E-BIKE PORTION OUT WHICH WHICH WOULD BE. IT'S PRESENTLY ALL BUNDLED TOGETHER AND THERE IS NO HURRY ON THE OTHER TWO ITEMS REGARDING THE PARKING AND THE FOOD TRUCKS. SO I DEFER TO JAMIE, BUT IT MIGHT BE BETTER JUST TO KEEP IT ALL TOGETHER. THAT WOULD BE FINE. THERE'S NO URGENCY ON ON THE OTHER CHANGES.OKAY. LAST QUESTION. ALSO, I'M JUST CURIOUS, DID THE CITIZENS WANT TO COME BACK AND TALK MORE? WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND AND WE'RE OPEN TO IT FOR SURE. SO IT'S GREAT. WHAT A GREAT IDEA. OKAY, SO WE WE NEED A MOTION. I BELIEVE WHAT I HEARD THAT WE'RE GOING TO TABLE THE SECOND READING AND WE WILL HAVE A ANOTHER SECOND READING AND ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AT A DATE TO BE DETERMINED. IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. IS THERE A MOTION TO TABLE? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THE SECOND READING OF. AND IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE THIS ITEM. MISS SIMON, IF YOU'LL CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE, MR. JORDAN. YES, MISS MARSHALL? YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. ROBBINS. YES. MR. HALL. YES. MAYOR FRAZIER. YES. THAT HAS THE TABLE. WE WILL KEEP YOU POSTED ON THE NEXT PUBLIC HEARING. AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. WE APPRECIATE THE INPUT, MISS MAIDA. ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD TONIGHT?
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.