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I WAS I'VE BEEN HOLDING THE GAVEL FOR YOU. COME ON. YEAH, I MADE IT. EVERYBODY JOIN ME IN
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THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY. WELCOME. ANGELA. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL DOCTOR GREEN HERE, MR. BATES HERE, MR. SLED, MR. ROZANSKI, MISS FLETCHER, MR. GIVEN, MR. DUBOSE, MR. STAMPS HERE. MR. COTTON HERE. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS, OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS[4 Approval of Minutes]
TO APPROVE OUR JUNE 4TH MINUTES. I ASSUME EVERYBODY HAS LOOKED AT THOSE. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS OR CORRECTIONS? MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED. SECOND. MOTION MADE AND SECONDED TO ANGELA. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, MR. BATES. YES. MR. ROZANSKI YES. MR. GIVEN. YES. DOCTOR. GREEN ABSTAIN. MR. STAMPS. MR. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. DO I HEAR? WELL,[5 Approval of Agenda Additions/deletions]
FIRST OF ALL, JAMIE, THERE ARE ANY CHANGES, ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE PUBLISHED AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. THERE ARE NO CHANGES FROM WHAT WAS PUBLISHED ON ONLINE, BUT I DO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT THE ITEM ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE COMMONS PD, THEY'RE ASKING FOR DEFERRAL TO YOUR SEPTEMBER MEETING. AND SO IF YOU APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA, YOU WOULD BE ALLOWING THAT THAT ITEM TO CONTINUE ON TO SEPTEMBER. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA WITH THE CAVEAT WITH THE CAVEAT. YEAH.ALL RIGHT. SECOND. MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. ROZANSKI.
YES, DOCTOR. GREEN YES. MR. GIVEN. YES. MR. BATES. YES. MR. STAMPS. MR. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS THE PART OF THE MEETING WHERE WE HAVE ANY CITIZENS HERE THAT HAVE NO OTHER BUSINESS BEFORE US, BUT WOULD LIKE TO BRING SOMETHING UP OR COMMENT IN SOME WAY ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN TOWN. NOW'S YOUR TIME. AND I SEE NO ONE RUSHING TO THE PODIUM. SO TIME
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IS UP NOW. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA? ITEM SEVEN, A CASE NUMBER 261318. SO MOVED. AND SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION MADE. SECONDED. ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. ROZANSKI. YES, DOCTOR. GREEN YES. MR. GIBBON. YES. MR. BATES. YES. MR. STAMPS.[8.a Case # 261529]
YES. MR. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. AND OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS CASE NUMBER 261529. AND ALLISON, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION? YES, SIR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. SO TONIGHT WE'RE DISCUSSING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. IT IS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF TWO DRIVE THRUS.WHAT THAT IS GOING TO BE AT A NEW 10,000 SQUARE FOOT MULTI-TENANT SPACE. THE SITE IS 106 NO. 1.6 ACRES, AND IT'S IN THE IRONWOOD PD. IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF HOUSTON LEVEE ROAD, AND IT'S JUST SOUTH OF WINCHESTER. THE APPLICANT IS COLE REALTY, REPRESENTED BY JASON SHIFFLET, WHO'S HERE TONIGHT. AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IS CENTRAL CHURCH. AND THE APPLICANT IS MARK UNDERWOOD, WHO'S ALSO HERE TONIGHT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. SO WE ARE HERE TONIGHT AGAIN FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. AND THE REASON THAT THIS REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. BECAUSE YOU GUYS PROBABLY REMEMBER IN MAY OF THIS YEAR THE ORDINANCE WAS PASSED. THAT REQUIRES NEW RESTAURANTS AND COFFEE SHOPS THAT HAVE DRIVE THRUS TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, WE DO HAVE SOME CRITERIA. AND I'LL JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER THOSE. WE WANT TO APOLOGIZE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT CONFORMS WITH ALL OF THE PROVISIONS OF THE ZONING DISTRICT, THAT IT CONFORMS WITH THE FOOTNOTES IN SECTION 151, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH OUR LAND USE PLAN, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO IT WILL NOT ADVERSELY AFFECT ANY ENVIRONMENTAL OR HISTORICAL OR CULTURAL RESOURCES, AND IT WILL BE ADEQUATELY SERVED BY PUBLIC UTILITIES. AND THAT'S FOR GENERAL CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS.
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WE DO HAVE SOME SPECIAL PROVISIONS SPECIFICALLY FOR DRIVE THRUS. AND AGAIN, THESE WERE THE ONES THAT WERE ADOPTED IN MAY. AND WHAT WE SAY IS THAT FOR RESTAURANTS AND COFFEE SHOP USES WITH DRIVE THRUS, WE REQUIRE A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS. AND WE DO THIS TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS AN ADEQUATE AMOUNT OF SPACE ON SITE TO ALLOW FOR THE MANEUVERING AND CIRCULATION OF VEHICLES. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS ENOUGH SPACE FOR VEHICLES TO QUEUE, AND THAT IT WILL NOT IMPACT TRAFFIC ON A BUDDING STREETS, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TRAFFIC LANES WILL NOT HAVE ADVERSE IMPACTS ON NEARBY RESIDENTIAL USES. SO RIGHT NOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT ON THE LEFT, THE EXISTING SITE AND ON THE RIGHT, THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN. SO AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, THE BUILDING IS A LITTLE LESS THAN 10,000FT■!S. IT'S GOING TO HAVE SEVEN TENANT SPACES AND THE TWO END CAPS ON THE NORTH AND THE SOUTH. THAT IS WHERE THOSE DRIVE THROUGH WINDOWS WILL BE. AND THE DRIVE THROUGH WINDOWS WILL NOT BE A FULL DRIVE THROUGH. THEY WILL BE MOBILE PICKUP ONLY. AND THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT CUSTOMERS DO NOT ORDER AT THE WINDOW. THEY USE AN APP OR THEY GO ONLINE. THEY PLACE THEIR ORDER, THEY'RE NOTIFIED VIA A TEXT OR EMAIL OR WHATEVER THAT THEIR ORDER IS READY, AND THEN THEY COME IN AND THEY PICK IT UP. SO THERE'S NO MENU BOARD, THERE'S NO SECOND WINDOW FOR COLLECTING MONEY. THERE'S NO SPEAKER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. BOTH OF THESE ARE GOING TO BE MOBILE PICKUP. AND AGAIN, THAT'S A RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF APPROVAL. BUT I DO WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT ONLY APPLIES IF IT'S COFFEE SHOP OR RESTAURANT, BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT TRIGGERS THE CUP IN THE FIRST PLACE. SO THE THERE IS A TENANT SELECTED FOR THAT SOUTHERN END CAP FOR THAT PICKUP WINDOW. AND THAT'S GOING TO BE DOMINO'S.THERE IS CURRENTLY NOT A TENANT SELECTED FOR THAT NORTHERN END CAP. SO WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE A RESTAURANT OR A COFFEE SHOP. PARDON. I'M SORRY. THE NORTHERN ONE IS THE DOMINO'S AND THE SOUTHERN ONE. NO SIR. NO SIR. THE THE SOUTHERN END CAP. YEAH.
SOUTHERN IS I MISREAD IT. THE SOUTHERN ONE'S DOMINO'S ON THIS ONE. YEAH YEAH. SORRY. YES. YES.
SO THE SOUTHERN END CAP WILL BE DOMINO'S AND THE NORTHERN END CAP AGAIN. THEY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHO THE TENANT WILL BE YET. IT MAY NOT BE A COFFEE SHOP OR A RESTAURANT, BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GO AHEAD AND GET THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REVIEWED, JUST IN CASE. IT DOES HAPPEN TO BE A COFFEE SHOP OR A RESTAURANT. SO LOOKING AT THE SITE, WE CAN SEE HERE THAT THERE ARE 50 PARKING SPACES PROVIDED THAT MEETS OUR MINIMUM REQUIRED FOR THE SHOPPING CENTER COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT. WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR DRIVE AISLES, WE LOOK TO SEE THE ANGLE OF THE PARKING SPACES IN RELATION TO THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVE AISLE. AGAIN, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ENOUGH MANEUVERING, WE DO SEE THAT THERE IS ENOUGH MANEUVERING. STAFF DID HAVE ONE CONCERN THAT WE BROUGHT UP WHEN WE WERE HAVING OUR INTERNAL MEETINGS, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO CHANGE ON THEIR SITE PLAN, AND WE'LL LOOK AT THAT WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR FINAL SITE PLAN REVIEW. AND THAT IS JUST THE ANGLE OF THESE FOUR PARKING SPACES HERE. WHEN WE LOOK AT THE WIDTH OF THE DRIVE AISLE AND THE ANGLE OF THESE FOUR SPACES, THE 90 DEGREE PARKING SPACES REQUIRE A, A, A WIDER DRIVE AISLE. SO THE APPLICANT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO ANGLE THESE PARKING SPACES. SO THAT WAY IT DOES MEET THE MINIMUM STANDARD FOR THE DRIVE AISLE. AGAIN. NOW WHEN WE LOOK AT QUEUING, YOU CAN SEE THE NORTHERN END CAP HAS MORE SPACE FOR QUEUING. WHEN WE DO OUR MEASUREMENTS WE USUALLY GIVE ABOUT 25FT PER VEHICLE. NOW STANDARD OUR PARKING SPACE REQUIREMENT IS ONLY 20FT, BUT WE ALL KNOW HOW HOW WE DRIVE. SO STAFF ENDS UP GIVING EACH VEHICLE ABOUT 25FT. SO WHEN WE DO THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ENOUGH QUEUING FOR SEVEN VEHICLES ON THE NORTHERN END CAP, AND THERE'S ENOUGH QUEUING FOR THREE VEHICLES ON THE SOUTHERN END CAP. THE APPLICANT HAD A TRAFFIC REPORT PREPARED, AND IN THE COURSE OF PREPARING THAT REPORT, THEIR ENGINEER WENT AND DID A STUDY OF THE EXISTING DOMINO'S LOCATION.
THAT'S RIGHT OVER HERE BY THE KROGER ON BYHALIA. THAT LOCATION ALSO HAS A MOBILE PICKUP WINDOW. SO THE ENGINEER SAT THERE ON A FRIDAY NIGHT, JULY THE 10TH, AND COUNTED CARS BETWEEN 5 P.M. AND 8 P.M. THEY'RE TYPICALLY THEIR BUSIEST TIME. AN EXCERPT OF THAT STUDY IS ON YOUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW, SO YOU CAN SEE FOR ONE MINUTE THERE WERE SIX VEHICLES IN THE
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IN THE QUEUING LINE, SO THERE WERE NEVER ANY MORE THAN SIX VEHICLES. AND THOSE SIX VEHICLES WERE ONLY THERE FOR ABOUT ONE MINUTE. SO AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, WE CAN SEE HERE ON THAT SOUTHERN END CAP, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THE DOMINO'S. THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM WHEN WE WHEN WE USE 25FT, THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM FOR THREE QUEUING SPACES. THERE IS ROOM FOR AN ADDITIONAL QUEUING SPACE, BUT IT WOULD GO BEYOND THE FRONT FACADE OF THE BUILDING. STAFF IS OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT ANY OF THE TRAFFIC IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. WE ARE CONFIDENT OF THAT, BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE, AGAIN, THAT WE'RE NOT CREATING A SITUATION WHERE VEHICLES COULD POTENTIALLY QUEUE INTO THIS SHARED DRIVEWAY THAT THE TENANT SPACE WILL SHARE WITH CENTRAL CHURCH. SO AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THERE BE TWO DEDICATED PARKING SPACES FOR MOBILE PICKUP ONLY, AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO THAT. SO ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THAT WOULD DO IF THEY SEE THAT VEHICLES ARE STACKING UP SOMEONE'S ORDER ISN'T READY, THEY CAN SEND THEM ON TO THE PARKING SPACE. SO THAT WAY THE NEXT PERSON IN LINE CAN GET THEIR FOOD AND KIND OF KEEP TRAFFIC MOVING. SO WITH ALL OF THAT IN MIND, STAFF HAS FOUND THAT THE REQUEST IS CONSISTENT WITH THE REQUIREMENTS IN 151, WHICH WE REVIEWED EARLIER, THE GROUNDS FOR ISSUANCE FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. AND WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH 151.2 FOR THE SPECIAL PROVISIONS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR THE DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT AND COFFEE SHOP. AND AGAIN, THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS ARE ON YOUR SCREEN. STAFF HAS SPOKEN WITH THE APPLICANT AND THEY AGREE WITH ALL OF THE CONDITIONS. AND THE PROPOSED MOTION IS ON YOUR SCREEN, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE TO THE DRAWING OF THE SITE? I SEE I WAS LOOKING AT THE MEASUREMENTS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT 25FT PER CAR. I'M NOT SURE. WE ONLY SEE ONE MEASUREMENT ON THE BUILDING AT 65.94, AND I BELIEVE THAT'S TO THE WINDOW ON THE NORTH SIDE. THERE IS NO MOVE THERE. BUT USING 25FT PER CAR REALLY WELL, THREE CARS FIT THERE. I MEAN, DO WE KNOW WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE DEPTH OF THE BUILDING? I'M SORRY. THE QUESTION SORRY. YOUR QUESTION IS WILL THERE REALLY BE THREE VEHICLES THAT WILL FIT HERE? WELL, YOU HAD YOU SAID THAT YOU THE STAFF USED 25FT PER CAR. I'M LOOKING AT THE MEASUREMENT ON THE NORTH SIDE ON THE NORTH PROPERTY. AND THERE IS A DISTANCE FROM, I THINK THE BACK CORNER TO THE WINDOW IS 65FT. YES. WE DON'T HAVE AN OVERALL WIDTH, BUT IF THAT 65FT THEN THREE CARS WON'T FIT ON THE ON THE SOUTH END.RIGHT. SO SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING. AND I APOLOGIZE IF IT WASN'T CLEAR.
SO WHAT WE DO ANTICIPATE IS THAT THAT THIRD VEHICLE WOULD PROBABLY HANG OUT A LITTLE BIT PAST THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING. RIGHT. AND THEN AND THEN YOU COULD HAVE THAT FOURTH VEHICLE WOULD HANG OUT HERE. SO STILL NOT REALLY IMPACTING THAT ACCESS AISLE. AND THAT'S WHY WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE TWO DEDICATED SPACES. ONE OTHER QUESTION ABOUT THE DESIGN OF THE PARKING ON THE HOUSTON LEVY SIDE OF IT. IT'S ONLY ONE ENTRANCE COMING IN THAT WAY. IT SEEMS TO BE IF I'M LOOKING FOR A PARKING SPOT IN A BUSY PARKING PLAZA, I HAVE NOWHERE TO TURN AROUND. IF I GET TO THE END OF THE PARKING LOT AND THERE'S NO SPOTS, THERE IS NO EGRESS OUT OF TURNING AROUND OTHER THAN RIGHT THERE. I MEAN, IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY SPACE TO TURN VEHICLES AROUND THAT I, I DO SEE, I DO SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NOTE THAT THEY HAVE NOT FINISHED THE FINAL SITE PLAN REVIEW PROCESS. SO, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT. I WILL SAY THEY ARE PROVIDING BEYOND THE REQUIRED TEE DECK BUFFER. THEY'RE THEY'RE PROVIDING AN ADDITIONAL 13.5FT JUST TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T IMPACT THAT, THAT ENVIRONMENTAL SPACE. SO IF THERE IS ANY WIDENING OF THAT NORTHERN DRIVE AISLE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT THAT TEE DECK BUFFER. BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD CERTAINLY LOOK AT WHEN WE DO THE FINAL SITE PLAN REVIEW, WHERE IT HAS THE DRIVE THROUGH IN GOING EXITING OUT, HEADED TOWARDS HOUSTON LEVY. IF THAT WAS JUST A CURB CUT ON THE HOUSTON LEVY, THAT WOULD MAKE A AN EGRESS POINT OUT, YOU KNOW, A RIGHT TURN ONLY ON THE NORTHERN END OF THE PARKING LOT.
IT COULD, YOU KNOW, JUST IDEAS WHEN YOU GET THE FINAL. I DO THINK HE MAKES A GREAT POINT, THOUGH. IF YOU COME INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO PARK. THE NATURAL THING THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS THEY'RE GOING TO TURN RIGHT INTO THE TRAFFIC FROM THE DRIVE THRUS COMING AROUND THE BACKSIDE OR A FIRE TRUCK. YES, YOU ARE CORRECT. AND AGAIN,
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LIKE I SAY, FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THAT REALLY WASN'T SOMETHING WE DIDN'T DIG TOO DEEPLY. RIGHT. BUT I THINK THEY WANT TO HEAR THAT IS A GOOD POINT. THEY'RE GOING TO BRING A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN BEFORE THIS COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL AT SOME POINT, ACTUALLY. SO THEY ARE THEY ARE ONLY DOING A FINAL SITE PLAN. SO DO AN ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW. WELL, THE FINAL SITE PLAN IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE BMA. AND THEN THAT IS SOMETHING AGAIN THAT WE REVIEW INTERNALLY. THE FIRE MARSHAL REVIEWS IT. SO I, I THINK YOU YOU ARE ALL MAKING VALID POINTS. AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION. SO JUST BECAUSE THIS IS NOT ON ABOUT THE EMOTION, BUT THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT I WOULD ALSO SAY ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT TOO. I SEE THAT THERE'S A PATIO OUT FRONT ON THE NORTHERN SIDE. YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY WHEN I SEE THESE PATIOS LIKE THIS AND THE ONE I SAW IN THE RENDERING, IF YOU DON'T PUT SOME KIND OF HARD SCREEN AROUND IT, WHAT WE END UP SEEING IS TRASH COLLECTS OUT THERE. IF THE RESTAURANT DOESN'T UPKEEP THEIR TABLES OUT THERE AND TRASH CANS. AND I WOULD PREFER TO SEE A HARDSCAPE SURROUNDING THAT PATIO JUST TO SHIELD THE ROAD FROM THAT. THE OTHER THING IS, I NOTICED THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING IS SOMEWHAT, IN MY TERMS, A LITTLE BIT MODERN. AND IF YOU CONTEXTUALLY LOOK AT THE BRICK AND THE OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN THE RETAIL AROUND THE THE FACILITY, IT'S A, IT'S A IT'S KIND OF A RED TRADITIONAL MUTED BRICK. SO THIS FACILITY IS, IN MY OPINION, KIND OF CONTEXTUALLY A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE THAT, BUT I THINK THAT'S IN THE DRC HANDS. BUT I ONLY PUT THAT OUT THERE JUST SO THE DRC LOOKS AT THAT. THE DRC WILL BE TAKING UP THIS CASE NEXT WEEK. YEAH. ONE OTHER QUESTION FOR YOU, JAMIE. I KNOW THAT DUTCH BROTHERS HAS HAD AN ISSUE WITH THEIR DUMPSTERS AND GETTING COLLECTED BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT IN THE DRIVE THRU LANE. IT SEEMS LIKE THIS WILL HAVE THE SAME ISSUE. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE ADDRESSED SOME DIFFERENT MAYBE PLAN WITH BECAUSE I KNOW DUTCH BROTHERS, THEY HAD THEIR DUMPSTER SITTING OUT OUTSIDE OF IT. YEAH. AND SO THEY'RE IN VIOLATION AND CLOSE TO BEING CITED OR THEY, WELL, THEY MOVED THEM BACK IN. BUT I KNOW THAT I TALKED TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND THEY SAID IT WAS AN ISSUE WITH THE TRUCK TRYING TO GET IN THERE WHEN THERE WAS PEOPLE IN LINE. SO I THINK THEY, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO ASK TO ROTATE THE ENCLOSURE. SO GETTING THE ENCLOSURE ROTATION, BECAUSE THERE'LL BE LESS CHANCE OF PEOPLE BEING IN THOSE BACK PARKING SPACES THAN BEING QUEUED IN A LINE IN A FUTURE RESTAURANT OR SOMETHING. SO IF THEY TURN IT. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANKS, ALLISON.THANK YOU. MARK. MARK UNDERWOOD, PROPERTY SOLUTIONS, 784 DEAN STREET DRIVE, COLLIERVILLE.
APPRECIATE THE TIME TONIGHT. WANT TO THANK STAFF AND ALLISON FOR BEING THOROUGH ON THIS. AND WE'VE HAD A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH TO GET TO WHERE WE ARE AND APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK. EVERYBODY'S PUT IN A COUPLE OF COMMENTS ABOUT THE SITE PLAN. ONE THING THAT WASN'T MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE AND FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE MR. JASON SHIFLETT'S HERE TONIGHT, THE DEVELOPER, HE'LL BE RUNNING DOMINO'S THERE AS WELL. AND WE ALSO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CENTRAL CHURCH AND THEIR FULL SUPPORT OF THIS, THE THE SITE PLAN. I WANT TO POINT OUT A COUPLE THINGS. THE REAR DRIVE TO THE EAST OF THE BUILDING, THAT'S A ONE WAY DRIVE. SO TRAFFIC CIRCULATION WILL BE COMING IN THAT CAN COME IN THE BACK OF THE SITE, CIRCLE AROUND IN A COUNTERCLOCKWISE FASHION AROUND THE SITE, TO THE DRIVE THROUGH THE ANGLE OR THE 90 DEGREE PARKING THAT IS IN THE BACK THAT ALLISON MENTIONED. THAT'S JUST A MESS UP ON MY PART. I TOTALLY MEANT TO ANGLE THOSE LIKE THE ONES ACROSS THE AISLE. SO THOSE WILL BE TAKEN CARE OF TO MAKE FOR BETTER INGRESS, EGRESS OF THOSE FOUR PARKING PLACES. WE HAD HOPED THE NORTHERN DRIVE THROUGH WOULD BE FOR A RESTAURANT AND SO ON. BUT ONCE WE UNDERSTOOD THE THE PROBLEMS THAT COULD COULD LAY ENTAIL. MR. SHIFLETT, THEY'RE FINE WITH MAKING THIS A MOBILE PICKUP. ONLY THE STORE. THE. THE SOUTHERN PICKUP WINDOW DRIVE THROUGH. ALSO, IF YOU'LL NOTICE ON THE SITE PLAN THE. THE PARKING PLACES THAT FRONT. HOUSTON LEVY. I'D ALREADY PUT A MOBILE PICKUP TAG OUT THERE, BUT WE ARE FINE WITH DEDICATING TWO SPACES SPECIFICALLY FOR MOBILE PICKUP. THE DISTANCE YOU'RE REFERRING TO ON THE BUILDING, SIR, THAT IS THE WIDTH OF THE BUILDING. IT'S NOT TO THE PICKUP WINDOW THAT IS THE WIDTH OF THE BUILDING. SO IT'S 65? YES, SIR. AND AND I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE.
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BUT WE CAN EASILY ACCOMMODATE THREE PARKING OR THREE SPACES ON THAT OTHER ONE, ALONG WITH THE TWO MOBILE PICKUP. I WANT TO POINT OUT ONE THING ALSO THAT DOWN ON THE SOUTHERN END OF THIS, THE THE EXISTING DRIVE FOR CENTRAL CHURCH OFF OF HOUSTON LAKE, THAT'S A FULL ACCESS MOVEMENT RIGHT THERE. THERE'S ALREADY A MEDIAN BREAK. IT'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT, AND IT'S VERY BEAUTIFUL. IF YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING PICTURE UP THERE, IT'S VERY CURVILINEAR. THEY WANT SOMETHING DONE TO THAT ANYWAY. SO NOT ONLY HAVE WE STRAIGHTENED IT OUT TO ASSIST CENTRAL CHURCH, BUT MR. SHIFLETT HAS AGREED TO GO AHEAD AND ADD ANOTHER DRIVE LANE IN THIS THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE NORTHBOUND EXITING AS WELL AS SOUTH SOUTHBOUND BOUND QUEUING TO EXIT ON HOUSTON LEVEE, ADDING ANOTHER LANE THERE AND STRAIGHTENING IT OUT, ADDING MORE QUEUING FOR TRAFFIC EXITING ONTO HOUSTON LEVEE. THE.THAT. THAT'S ABOUT WHERE I HAVE. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, UNDERSTAND THE ARCHITECTURAL THAT YOU MENTIONED. WE. CENTRAL CHURCH HAS HAS LOOKED AT THE ARCHITECTURE. THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MR. GIBBONS, AND THE YOU KNOW, THE BUILDINGS, IT'S VERY SPARSE IN THAT AREA TO. SO CONTEXTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU, BUT IT IT'S ONCE IT STARTS FILLING IN, I GUESS WE COULD STATE THAT FOR A FACT. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MYSELF OR CENTRAL CHURCH OR MR. SHIFLETT, WE'D BE HAPPY TO HELP. QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS. MARK, YOU GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS. YES, SIR.
WELL, ALL THESE UP I DRIVES HAVE BYPASS ON THEM. ARE THEY WIDE ENOUGH TO GO? IF YOU GET SOMEBODY TURNS IN AND GETS IN THE LINE AND REALIZES THEY HAVE TO MAKE THE ORDER, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO GO GET OUT AND AND CONTINUE ON THEIR WAY, OR DO THEY JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND GO THROUGH? THE ONE ON THE NORTH END? ABSOLUTELY HAS A BYPASS. WHILE I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT, IF I CAN ALSO SAY THE THE TWO DUMPSTERS UP THERE, YOU NOT ONLY HAVE A 20 FOOT DRIVE OUT, YOU'VE GOT A THREE FOOT STRIPED AREA, AND THEN YOU HAVE A 12 FOOT DRIVE OUT. SO THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM FOR MANEUVERABILITY FOR THOSE DUMPSTERS. ALSO, PUSH THOSE BACK A LITTLE BIT TO THE NORTHEAST TO MAKE THAT TRUCK BE BE ABLE TO PULL AND PULL OUT THE NORTH TO ANSWER QUESTION, THE NORTH END DOES HAVE A BYPASS LANE. THIS. THE SOUTH DOES NOT. IT'S GOING TO HAVE A HARD LANDSCAPE ISLAND TO ITS SOUTH. OKAY. IT WILL NOT. BUT MR. SHIFLETT, ALONG WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, DOCTOR LAPINSKI, DID THE STUDY THAT YOU SEE ON THE SHEET THERE WITH THE NUMBER OF. AND HE'S GOT HISTORICAL DATA. MR. SHIPLETT DOES GOING BACK ON THE QUEUING FOR DOMINO'S. THAT'S FRIGHTENING. AND HE. HE'S NEVER SEEN IT BEING A PROBLEM. OKAY. THE OTHER QUESTION I'D HAVE FOR YOU, DID YOU CONSIDER JUST MAKING THIS A ONE WAY TRAFFIC PATTERN ALL THE WAY AROUND THE BUILDING SO THE DOMINO'S QUEUING COULD COME IN, GO TO THE GO TO THE EAST SIDE, GO AROUND AND IF THERE IF IT IF IT'S NOT DOMINO'S IN THE FUTURE, THEY COULD HAVE SOMETHING ELSE. AND IF YOU HAD QUEUING IT WOULD ALL BE ON THEIR PROPERTY. AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THIS CONFLICT OF PEOPLE TURNING LEFT INTO HERE. AND THAT COULD BACK UP ON HOUSTON LEVEE. IT WAS DISCUSSED. NOT ACTUALLY, I THINK MR. SHIFLETT BROUGHT IT UP. THE ONLY THING THAT'S KIND OF PROBLEMATIC WITH THAT, OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU'RE GOING TO THE DOMINO'S PICKUP, YOU GOT TO DO AN ENTIRE 360 AROUND THE BUILDING TO GET TO THE TO THE PICKUP WINDOW AND THEN DO ANOTHER 360 TO GET OUT. WE WE CHOSE NOT TO SHOW THAT, BUT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY A WHAT HAVE YOU BROUGHT THE CARS IN BACK TO THE WEST, TO THE DOMINO'S. COULD YOU NOT DO THAT AND HAVE THEM. CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? COULD YOU NOT TURN THE CARS. IF I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SCOTT, WOULD YOU TAKE. THE EASTERN ENTRANCE IS THE ONLY ENTRANCE INTO THE SITE. MAKE THE CARS GO TO THE WEST, THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH. AND THEN YOU WOULD ALWAYS HAVE YOU CAN'T PICK UP OUT OF YOUR PASSENGER WINDOW THOUGH. OH, TRUE. YEAH. THAT'S A GOOD THOUGHT. WELL, YOU KNOW, I'VE MADE THAT MISTAKE. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I KNOW THAT IF YOU'RE IN ONE OF THE OPTIONS COULD BE IF YOU EXTENDED THAT DID NOT EXTEND THE BREAK OR ELIMINATED THE BREAK, AND YOU FORCED EVERYBODY TO COME IN DOWN AT THE AT THE EAST END. AND IF THEY WENT AROUND AND IF THE DOMINO'S AT THAT POINT, ALL YOU DID IS WIDEN THAT DRIVEWAY WHERE THEY COULD TURN RIGHT OUT OF THERE AND GO BACK AND EXIT ON THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OUT AND LEFT OUT. ONLY THEN THEY
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WOULD JUST MAKE A YOU RIGHT THERE. I JUST THINK A LOT OF TRAFFIC COMING OUT IN AND OUT ON ONE ENTRANCE. I WITH WITH THE QUEUING, WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE THE CENTRAL CHURCH DRIVE LANE, ADDING ANOTHER LANE THERE. YOU KNOW, AND I'LL SPEAK TO THE NORTHERN PICKUP WINDOW. I MEAN FROM THE PICKUP WINDOW AROUND THE BACK OF THE BUILDING HEADING WEST OUT THE DRIVE, IT'S 550FT. I MEAN, IT'S NEVER GOING TO BACK UP, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S A MOBILE ORDER. I MEAN, ONLY SINCE IT'S NOT A DRIVE THROUGH. I WOULD I WOULD NOT SAY NEVER UNLESS THEY COME BACK FOR A Q P AND GET A RESTAURANT OR A COFFEE FOR A MOBILE PICKUP, THAT WON'T HAPPEN. OKAY. AND AGAIN, WITH THE HISTORICAL DATA THAT MR. SHIFLETT HAS ON HIS MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS OF DOMINO'S, HE'S GOT HISTORICAL DATA FOR HIS PICKUP WINDOWS. MY LAST QUESTION. I'M SORRY FOR SO MANY. NO, BUT THE PROPERTY THAT'S TO THE RIGHT. ISN'T THAT A IS THAT AN EGRESS TO TO THE TO THE EAST. TO THE NORTH. OH, TO THE NORTH. THERE'S A THERE'S A LARGE DITCH CREEK. OKAY. WELL, I WAS JUST LOOKED AT THE LINE WORK THERE AND IT LOOKED, I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF THAT WAS ANOTHER DRIVE. NO, NO SIR. THAT THAT'S A LARGE BOX CULVERT THAT COMES UNDERNEATH HOUSTON LEVEE. AND THERE'S A LOT OF EASEMENTS UP ALONG. GOTCHA. AND AS ALLISON MENTIONED, WE DID GET A DETERMINATION. IT'S WATERS OF THE STATE. THEY'VE AGREED TO A 30 FOOT NON-DISTURBANCE BUFFER. WE'RE GIVEN ANOTHER 13FT BECAUSE WE KNOW WE'VE GOT GRADING TO DO. SO WE STAY OUT OF IT COMPLETELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO I THANK THE BOARD MEMBER HAD ASKED IF YOU ADDRESSED IT. I WAS THINKING SO I MIGHT HAVE GONE OVER MY HEAD, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE NORTH SIDE, JUST TO WRITE OUT EXIT ON THAT NORTH SIDE OF THAT CORNER. WAS THAT CONSIDERED OR TALKED ABOUT OR DO YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION? IT WAS NOT. WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO GET INTO ANY MORE. THE EXISTING CURB CUT FOR CENTRAL CHURCH IS EXISTING AND WILL ACCOMMODATE THESE IMPROVEMENTS WITHOUT US, SO THERE'S NO WORK TO BE DONE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OF HOUSTON LEVEE AT ALL. WE'RE TRYING. ALSO, IF I THROW A CURB CUT OUT HOUSTON LEVEE, I'M LOSING PARKING AND I'M BELOW MINIMUMS AND HIS SQUARE FOOTAGE.I KNOW Y'ALL PROBABLY DON'T LIKE TO HEAR THAT HE'S HE NEEDS FOR THE BUILDING IS WORKING WITH THE FINANCIALS OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT'S WHAT HE NEEDS. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR.
MARK. OKAY. THANKS, MARK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COMMISSIONERS. DO I HEAR A MOTION? MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED? SECOND, MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. DO I HEAR DISCUSSION, COMMISSIONERS. HEARING NONE. ALLISON, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. I'LL DO IT. MR. GIVEN. YES. DOCTOR. GREEN YES. MR. BATES. YES. MR. ROZANSKI YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR.
[9 Development Updates (new cases, administrative reviews, etc.)]
COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. JAMIE. WHAT WHAT'S NEXT TO COME BEFORE US? I WAS GOING TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY MAP. AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE UPDATE THIS MONTHLY AND WE TRY TO COMMUNICATE TO THE TO THE PUBLIC WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT I WANTED TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF NEW APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE COME IN, AND YOU CAN SEE THEM ON YOUR SCREEN NOW. ONE IS MORRISON VILLAGE. THIS IS BOTH MIXED USE PROJECT AT. AT THE CORNER OF HOUSTON LEVEE SOUTH ROAD AND AND 385. WHEN THEY CAME IN, THEY LEFT A PAD FOR FOR A USER, THEY WEREN'T SURE EXACTLY WHO WAS GOING THERE. BUT NOW THEY DO HAVE A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING THAT THEY WANT TO BUILD THERE. AND IT WILL ALSO HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH AS WELL. BUT IT PREDATES THE REQUIREMENT FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. BUT THEY THEY ARE PAYING CAREFUL ATTENTION TO STACKING AND MAKING SURE THAT STACKING OCCURS WITHIN THE SITE. SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THEM ON THAT. SO THAT THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED BLENDS IN ARCHITECTURALLY WITH THE REST OF THE CENTER. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT IS THE VFW. I KNOW SOME OF YOU ALL ARE IN ROTARY AND GO TO THE VFW BUILDING, AND IT'S AN OLDER BUILDING IN TOWN. IT'S IT'S AN INSTITUTION IN THE COMMUNITY. THEY HAVE DECIDED TO ADD SOME PARKING OUT BACK. THEY HAVE A LARGE FIELD. I BELIEVE THERE WAS A POOL THERE AT ONE TIME. THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE BIG SWAMP, THE COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY POOL. AND SO THAT THAT AREA WHERE THEY HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS, THEY'RE ADDING SOME PARKING TO, TO SUPPORT THEIR EVENTS. SO THEY'RE PUTTING A WHOLE BACK, BACK THERE WHERE THE POOL WAS THAT BIG FIELD, THEY WERE PARKING ON IT FOREVER[00:30:01]
BECAUSE THERE'S NO OTHER PLACE TO PARK. SURE. THAT'S AND THE BIG THING IS THEY WERE GETTING THE FUNDING AND THEY'VE GOTTEN THAT. THAT'S A THAT SON OF A GUN. SO THAT'S BEING REVIEWED RIGHT NOW, PROVIDED IT MEETS ALL ALL THE STANDARDS THAT WE'RE STILL IN THE REVIEW PROCESS NOW, BUT THAT THAT IS CURRENTLY PENDING. ONE THAT'S NOT ON THE MAP IS WHEN WE DO OUR NEXT UPDATE IN, IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, YOU'LL SEE THIS PIN. BUT STANDARD CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS THE OPERATION JUST RIGHT OUTSIDE YOUR WINDOW BEHIND YOU. THEY FILED AN APPLICATION TO FOR A FACILITY ON LAND THAT THEY'VE OWNED FOR OVER 20 YEARS ON PROGRESS ROAD, RIGHT EAST OF PROGRESS ROAD, AND RIGHT, RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE COUNTY LINE SOUTH OF KEOUGH.AND THEY WOULD BE MOVING THEIR ASPHALT PLANT. EVENTUALLY THEY WOULD CLOSE THE ONE HERE, MOVE IT THERE. SO I THINK THAT'LL BE GOOD FOR FOR TRUCK TRAFFIC IN THIS IN THIS PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND GETTING IT MORE TOWARDS I2 69 AND 385. SO I THINK THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY. BUT BE LOOKING FOR THAT. THAT'LL BE ON YOUR NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA. SO ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT PENDING CASES OR OR DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL
[10 Other Business]
CONTINUE ON WITH A COUPLE OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. STAFFING. SHEILA HATCHETT, WHICH ONE OF OUR PLANNERS, SHE'S BEEN WITH US FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A YEAR. SHE LEFT US LAST MONTH.SHE WENT TO BE A PLANNER IN HOUSTON OR DALLAS, DALLAS, TEXAS. SO SHE HAS FAMILY THERE AND WE'RE SAD TO SEE HER GO, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FILL HER HER POSITION. SO YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE A NEW PERSON OVER THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO FILLING THAT ROLE. THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS STILL VERY MUCH IN DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE I THINK WE'RE OVER HALFWAY DONE. WE'RE STILL ON TARGET FOR ADOPTION. SPRING OF NEXT YEAR. THERE WILL BE SEVERAL MAPS AND SEVERAL CHAPTER DRAFT CHAPTERS. BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE RECEIVED SO FAR FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM FROM THE STEERING COMMITTEE. AND THOSE ARE GOING TO BE PLACED ONLINE ON THE PROJECT WEBSITE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. SO I THINK IT'S STARTING TO GET REALLY REAL. THERE'S THE CHAPTERS LOOK GOOD. I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THEM, SO I THINK THEY WILL REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITY VERY WELL. BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME REALLY, REALLY GREAT POLICIES AND PICTURES IN THEIR MAPS. SO BE LOOKING FOR THAT. THE CONSULTANTS CONSULTANTS ARE COMING BACK TO TOWN IN AUGUST, AND THEY'RE GOING TO MEET WITH THE BMA AND SPECIFICALLY TO TALK ABOUT PRIORITIES, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHEN WE HAVE THIS VISION, WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THE THINGS THAT THE BMA REALLY WANTS TO ACCOMPLISH FIRST, SECOND, THIRD. SO THEY'LL BE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH WITH THE BMA IN A WORK SESSION ON AUGUST 24TH. AND THEN THE CONSULTANTS ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO TOWN IN OCTOBER. SO THEY'LL HAVE A BIG COMMUNITY VISIONING WHERE THEY IT'LL BE DIFFERENT FROM MAY, WHERE IN MAY THEY WERE ASKING PEOPLE A LOT ABOUT WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE IN OCTOBER WILL BE ABOUT REPORTING WHAT WHAT WE THINK THAT WE'VE HEARD AND WHAT AND WHAT THE DRAFT PLAN ACTUALLY SHOWS. SO THAT'S THAT'LL BE EXCITING. WE'RE WORKING RIGHT NOW AT THE STAFF LEVEL ON A FIVE YEAR PLAN FOR THE PLANNING DIVISION, AND IT WILL HAVE LOTS OF SPECIAL PROJECTS, EVEN HOW WE'RE WE'RE STRUCTURED. SO AT SOME POINT I'LL SHARE WITH YOU ALL MORE MORE ABOUT THAT, THAT EFFORT. BUT IT WILL HELP US AS WE SEE HOW THE COMP PLAN GOES. IT WILL HELP US BETTER IMPLEMENT SOME SOME OF THESE THINGS AND IT'LL TOUCH ON THINGS LIKE HISTORIC PRESERVATION. I KNOW JEREMY'S ON THE HISTORIC COMMISSION, AND IT'LL TOUCH ON A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DO. SO UPCOMING MEETINGS, YOU DO HAVE A SEPTEMBER MEETING. THE COMMENTS WILL BE COMING BACK TO YOU THAT YOU DEFERRED TONIGHT. STANDARD CONSTRUCTION. I MENTIONED THAT, AND MARIA IS GOING TO DO A PRESENTATION FOR YOU IN SEPTEMBER ON A NEW LAW THAT HAS BEEN ADOPTED, AND SHE'S GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU A LITTLE TEASER ABOUT THAT CHANGE. BUT IT'S A PRETTY BIG CHANGE IN HOW WE REVIEW DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS AND OUR TIME FRAME THAT WE HAVE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHIN. IT ALSO AFFECTS INSIDE INSPECTIONS AS WELL. AND THEN YOUR OCTOBER MEETING, WE'VE RECEIVED A REZONING REQUEST FOR HOLMES ROAD, A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN THAT WAY. THOMPSON MACHINE. THEY WANT TO ASK TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO ALLOW FOR GRAVEL AND A CERTAIN PORTION OF THEIR SITE. THEY HAVE REALLY HEAVY EQUIPMENT AND RIGHT NOW OUR DISTRICT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR FOR GRAVEL. SO THEY WANT TO ASK YOU IF YOU WOULD AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE ABOUT THAT. AND THEN BY OCTOBER, MARIA IS OUR PROJECT MANAGER ON THIS. WE SHOULD HAVE THE THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THESE NEW STATE LAWS ABOUT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS. WE'RE CALLING IT THE THE SHOT CLOCK ORDINANCE. BUT WE WE HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS WITHIN WITHIN CERTAIN TIME FRAMES. AND THERE ARE COUNTLESS SECTIONS OF OUR CODE THAT WE'VE GOT TO CHANGE TO BE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH THAT NEW STATE LAW. SO THOSE ARE THE THOSE ARE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS
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THAT I HAVE. AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO MARIA TO SHARE WITH YOU JUST A LITTLE TEASER ABOUT THAT LAW. ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. GOOD EVENING. SO THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS CHANCE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH YOU ABOUT PUBLIC CHAPTER 1044. SO WE CALL IT THE SHOT CLOCK LAW. IT'S RECENTLY APPROVED AND IT WILL TAKE EFFECT ON JANUARY 1ST. SO IT MANDATES ALL LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN THE STATE TO CONDUCT TIMELY REVIEWS OF APPLICATION, SUBMITTAL, SITE INSPECTIONS AND SURETY RELEASES. SO WE HAVE TWO MAGIC NUMBERS, 30 BUSINESS DAYS AND 60 BUSINESS DAYS. SO WITHIN 30 BUSINESS DAYS OF THE SUBMITTAL, STAFF MUST PROVIDE COMMENTS OR REQUESTS FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO THE APPLICANT, AND FAILURE TO DO SO WILL RESULT IN AUTOMATIC APPROVAL OF THAT PROJECT. SO WHEN ALL COMMENTS ARE ADDRESSED AND THE APPLICATION MAY BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVE ADMINISTRATIVELY, OR BE PLACED ON THE NEXT AVAILABLE PC AGENDA OR THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY, THAT COULD BE MAY WITHIN 60 BUSINESS DAYS. SO THERE ARE TWO CLOCKS RUNNING AT THE SAME TIME WHEN A SUBMITTAL HAPPENS. SO THERE'S 30 BUSINESS DAYS TO ISSUE THE WRITTEN COMMENTS. AND WITHIN 60 BUSINESS DAYS THE THE APPLICATION SHOULD EITHER BE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY OR.BE TABLED FOR THE NEXT PC AGENDA. SO THERE'S ALSO AN OPTION FOR STAFF TO DENY THE APPLICATION. BUT THAT WOULD ENTAIL LIKE A 50% REFUND OF THE FEES COLLECTED. YEAH. AND THE APPLICANT WILL THEN BE WILL THEN BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A NEW APPLICATION WITH NEW FEES AND THE NEW TIMELINES. SO IT RESETS THE CLOCK FOR THEM. SO WE WOULD NOT BE THAT THAT SCENARIO WILL NOT BE IDEAL BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THE REFUNDS LIKE TO HAPPEN ALL THE TIME. RIGHT. AND THAT THAT LONG TERM IMPLICATION WOULD BE PUSHING MORE CASES TO THE PC AGENDA AND LET THE PC DECIDE IF THEY WILL DENY OR APPROVE THE PROJECT. BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THE NEW LAW, WHEN THE PC DENIES THE PROJECT, THERE WILL BE NO REFUNDS. OH YEAH. SO YEAH, SO THE KEY FOR THIS SUCCESSFUL IMPLEMENTATION IS OF COURSE COLLABORATION BETWEEN ALL THE DEPARTMENTS. SO RIGHT NOW FOR US AT THE TOWN, WE HAVE THE DEPARTMENTAL REVIEW TEAM. SO WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM PLANNING, ENGINEERING, FIRE, PUBLIC SERVICES. SO WE'RE ALL WORKING COLLABORATIVELY ON PLAN REVIEWS AND MAKING SURE THAT WRITTEN COMMENTS ARE SENT OUT, LIKE WITHIN 30 BUSINESS DAYS. AND WE ALSO HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE FOR ENSURING THE APPLICATIONS ARE SUFFICIENT OR COMPLETE BEFORE THE REVIEW HAPPENS. SO RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF GRAY AREAS ABOUT THIS LAW. AND WE SENT OUT SOME QUESTIONS TO TEST THE MUNICIPAL TECHNICAL ADVISORY SERVICE OF THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE, BECAUSE THEY CONDUCTED A WEBINAR LAST WEEK THAT WE ATTENDED ABOUT THIS NEW STATE LAW. SO ONCE WE GET MORE INFORMATION, WE'RE GOING TO SHARE THAT TO YOU IN THE NEXT MEETING. SO AS JAMIE STATED, OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER WILL BE THE BUSIEST MONTH BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THOSE THE DRAFT AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND TO THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. SO WE WILL BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY, WITH NATHAN, WHO'S IN THE BOX BEHIND ME. HE'LL WE'LL BE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THEM ON, ON THIS LANGUAGE AS WELL. YEAH. THANK YOU. MARIA, THANK YOU. JUST QUESTION. SO YOU'VE I'VE HEARD YOU SAY YOU HAVE SYSTEMS IN IN PLACE ALREADY. YOU KNOW THIS WILL CREATE A WORKLOAD ON STAFF. IS THAT SYSTEMS IN PLACE REQUIRE MORE STAFFING OR HIRING. HAS THAT BEEN A CONSIDERATION OR THOUGHT. MAYBE. I THINK PLANNING WILL PROBABLY BE OKAY IN PLANNING. I DO WORRY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ENGINEERING
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THE RIGHT NOW THERE THEY THEY'VE GOT A COUPLE OF FOLKS LOOKING NEED TO LOOK AT WHO'S GONE HOME ALREADY. THEY DO A GOOD JOB. BUT IF WE GET A LOT OF SUBMITTALS AND THERE'S JUST TWO PEOPLE AND WE'VE GOT MORE MORE PLANNERS THAN THAT, THAT THAT THAT COULD BE HARD FIRES SOMETIMES. I KNOW TODD HAS NOW AN ASSISTANT FIRE MARSHAL, BUT THAT THAT COULD BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT. BUT WHAT'S WHAT'S WHAT'S CONCERNING IS IT'S NOT OPTIONAL. AND NONE OF US WANT TO BE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY APPROVE THE PROJECT BY DEFAULT. BECAUSE BY WHEN THAT HAPPENS, IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO MEET ALL, ALL OF YOUR STANDARDS. SO WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT APPLICATIONS ARE SUFFICIENT.
SOMETIMES APPLICATIONS GET THROUGH THE DOOR THAT AREN'T AS CLEAN AS THEY SHOULD BE. NOT NOT THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO THE REVIEW THE VERY FIRST DAY TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MEET ALL MEETS ALL YOUR STANDARDS. BUT DO WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION TO MAKE A DECISION? SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY TIGHTEN UP A LITTLE BIT, MAKE SURE THAT INCOMPLETE APPLICATIONS DON'T GET SUBMITTED, THAT WE HAVE HAVE WHAT WE NEED. WE DO HAVE GREAT SOFTWARE TOOLS THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE SO WE CAN KEEP KEEP TRACK, BUT IT COULD HAVE A STAFFING IMPLICATION, PARTICULARLY ON THE INSPECTION SIDE. AND THAT'S SOMETHING MARIA WILL TALK MORE ABOUT. BUT ALSO APPLICANTS HAVE THE ABILITY TO LIKE, APPEAL AN INSPECTION AND APPEAL TO A PUBLIC BODY. AND WE THE LAW DOESN'T SAY WHICH BODY. SO IT MIGHT BE MIGHT BE Y'ALL MIGHT BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MIGHT BE THE MAYOR AND BOARD.
BUT CAN YOU IMAGINE, LIKE, IF SOMEBODY COMES OUT AND INSPECTS A STREET AND THE STREET FAILS THE INSPECTION, BECAUSE MAYBE, MAYBE THEY DIDN'T, MAYBE THE TOP COAT IS, IS NOT WHAT WE EXPECTED, OR IT'S GOT POTHOLES OR SOMETHING THAT THE DEVELOPER COULD APPEAL THAT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WHAT RIGHTS Y'ALL HAVE. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT, BUT THAT, THAT THAT IS SOMETHING NEW. THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING NEW ON YOUR AGENDA OR THE MAYOR AND BOARD'S AGENDA THAT YOU DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE. AND EVEN THESE APPLICATIONS, IF WE HAVE TO BRING YOU A PLAN THAT IS NOT, NOT CLEAN, THAT DOES NOT MEET OUR STANDARDS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO APPROVE BY DEFAULT, YOU'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH THAT SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE ON YOUR AGENDA THAT WE, WE USUALLY TRY TO CLEAN IT UP AND MAKE SURE THE PLANS ARE REALLY CLEAN BEFORE YOU SEE IT, BUT YOU MIGHT SEE SOME PLANS THAT AREN'T AS CLEAN AS, AS, AS YOU'RE USED TO SEEING, AND YOU'LL KNOW IT BECAUSE WE'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. WE'LL SAY, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT MEET YOUR STANDARDS. AND THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE GOOD FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE MORE TIME BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO COME TO A MEETING, THEN GET DENIED, THEN REAPPLY. SO IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW, HOW THIS WORKS. AND THE DEVELOPERS MAY BE ABLE TO WAIVE IF THERE IS A SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GO TO Y'ALL PREMATURELY, THEY MAY BE ABLE TO WAIVE THEIR RIGHTS SO THAT THEY GO PAST THE 60 DAYS AND GET ANOTHER SHOT AT CLEANING IT UP. BUT WE'VE GOT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO NAVIGATE ALL THAT AND WHAT THE LAW ALLOWS OR WHAT IT DOESN'T. YEAH. AND SORRY, I FORGOT TO POINT OUT THAT FOR STAFF COMMENTS, THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED UP TO TWO WRITTEN COMMENTS. AND THEN THEY HAVE TO MAKE EITHER A DENIAL OR APPROVE IT AT ADMIN AND OR PUSH IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR TO THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY. SO IT'S ONLY UP TO TWO ROUNDS OF REVIEWS. THEN THEY NEED TO SO SO TWO TWO COMMENTS PER ITEM OR TWO REVIEWS BECAUSE SO TWO REVIEWS. SO RIGHT NOW WITH THE TWO REVIEWS. SO ONE REVIEW WE SENT OUT A SET OR A CONSOLIDATED CONSOLIDATED COMMENTS TO THE APPLICANT. AND IF THEY NEED TO GO BACK SO THEY WILL HAVE A SECOND REVIEW. AND THEN ANOTHER SET OF COMMENTS. SO RIGHT NOW WHAT WE'RE HOW WE DO IT, WE DON'T HAVE A LIMIT. SO FOR SEVEN SEVEN BREW, I THINK IT WENT OVER LIKE 4DR2 REVIEWS BECAUSE THE PLANS WERE NOT CLEAN. WE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES. WE AND THEY FAILED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS. SO THEY HAD TO LIKE COME BACK. SO WITH THIS LAW, IT'S ONLY UP TO TWO ROUNDS OR TWO WRITTEN. COMMENTS. SO IF SOMEBODY COMES AND SUBMITS SOMETHING AND STAFF HAS 30 COMMENTS AND THEY RETURN IT TO THEM AND THEY ADDRESS 15 OF THEM, AND THEY COME BACK AND THEY DID DIDN'T ADDRESS THESE 15 THAT IT'S CONSIDERED THE SECOND REVIEW. YES, YES. AND YOU DIDN'T ADD ANYTHING. YOU JUST SAID YOU DIDN'T ADDRESS WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY QUESTIONED.
YES. AND THAT WOULD THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WOULD BE YOUR LAST REVIEW. YES. AND WE'VE GOT TO BRING THAT TO YOU OR OR DENIED. BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES. WE DON'T HAVE POWER TO LIKE A
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PRELIMINARY PLAT. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THE STAFF HAS THE ABILITY TO DENY. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BRING YOU THINGS THAT ARE SO UNRESPONSIVE. IF THERE'S 15 THINGS THAT ARE OUTSTANDING THAT DIDN'T GET ADDRESSED AT ALL COMES TO PLAN COMMISSION, WE WOULD KNOW THOSE 15 THINGS HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. YES. AND IF THEY'RE NOT ADDRESSED DURING A MEETING, THEN WE CAN DENY IT, CORRECT? YES. AND THERE'S NO AUTOMATIC APPROVAL? NO. BECAUSE THEY THEY FAILED. THEN THEY CAN GO AND START ALL OVER AGAIN AND THERE'S NO REFUND REQUIREMENT IN THE REFUND REQUIREMENTS. IT'S IT'S PUNITIVE. IT PUNISHES US FOR HAVING MORE THAN SO MANY COMMENTS. BUT IF YOU ALL TURN A CASE DOWN, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO REFUND REQUIREMENT. THEY HAVE TO HAVE TO APPLY AGAIN, THERE'S REALLY NO REASON FOR SOMEBODY TO NOT ADDRESS THE COMMENTS TO COME IN HERE AND GET DENIED. I MEAN, THAT'S JUST A LIKE, I MEAN, UNLESS YOU JUST WANT TO DO IT JUST FOR, YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITH EVERY CASE LIKE, LIKE MARK, LIKE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, NOT PICKING ON THEM. THEY DID, THEY DID A GOOD JOB. THEY DIDN'T NEED A SECOND CYCLE. SO THEY, THEY, THEY'RE FINE. THEY'RE JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE CUP REQUIREMENT. AND THEN SO THEY'VE DONE A GOOD SET. BUT THERE ARE LIKE SEVEN IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. THE THE MAYOR AND BOARD. I DON'T THINK THEY WOULD HAVE APPROVED THE FIRST, SECOND OR THIRD VERSION OF SEVEN BREW. AND NE TWO WOULDN'T HAVE RECOMMENDED IT BECAUSE IT WOULD. THEY ALL HAD SEVERE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS, AND IT ONLY WAS THE LAST ONE THAT WE FELT COMFORTABLE ENOUGH. SO I DO THINK THOSE THAT AREN'T RESPONSIVE, IT'S GOING TO IT'S GOING TO HURT THEM. THEY'RE GOING TO LOSE SOME TIME. BUT THAT'S THAT'S PART OF, I GUESS, WHAT, WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY WANTED. THEY WANTED THE ABILITY TO GET THROUGH THE PROCESS AND GET AND GET THEIR DAY. AND, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GIVE THAT TO THEM. AND, AND RIGHTFULLY SO. THEY DON'T NEED TO JUST LANGUISH IN SOME KIND OF A ADMINISTRATIVE PURGATORY. AND SO THAT I THINK, I THINK THAT PART OF THE LAW IS GOOD IS THAT THE GOOD ONES ARE GOING TO GET THROUGH THE ONES THAT ARE HAVING TROUBLE. THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO COME TO LIGHT. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THAT WE'LL SEE WHAT THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ARE. EXACTLY, EXACTLY. YEAH. WELL, I WOULD THINK ON THE FRONT END, LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE, IS MAKING SURE THAT THE RIGHT APPLICATION IS FILLED OUT, DONE CORRECTLY AND ACCEPTED. SO THAT COULD THAT COULD BE WHERE THE BUCK STOPS FOR A LOT OF THIS, HOPEFULLY. THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR YOU TODAY.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.