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THE JULY 7TH DESIGN REVIEW HEARING.WE HAVE A QUORUM, SO I'LL ASK ANGELA TO PLEASE CALL ROLL COMMISSIONER JORDAN.
COMMISSIONER ROBBINS, CHAIR DON HART HERE.
[3 Approval of Minutes]
WE HAVE THE MINUTES IN YOUR PACKET FROM OUR LAST MEETING.I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE.
ANY DISCUSSION? ANGELA, COULD YOU CALL ROLL COMMISSIONER PEELER? YES.
[4 Approval of Agenda (additions/deletions)]
WE HAVE AN AGENDA IN FRONT OF US.UM, ARE THERE ANY MODIFICATIONS OF THE AGENDA FROM WHAT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE PAPER? YES, THERE ARE SOME CHANGES.
UM, OTHER BUSINESS HAS BEEN MOVED UP TO NUMBER EIGHT WHILE DEVELOPMENT UPDATES HAVE BEEN MOVED, MOVED TO NINE.
SO THEY SWITCH PLACES AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY CHANGES.
[6 Approval of Consent Agenda]
TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS SUBMITTED? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.SECOND, UM, ANGELA, WOULD YOU CALL ROLL COMMISSIONER LAMORE? YES.
UM, NOW'S TIME FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE NOT RELATED TO A CASE THAT WILL BE PROVIDING CITIZEN COMMENTS? OKAY.
[7.a Case #260765 – 901 Bowl – Request approval of a Waiver from the Design Guidelines related to the use of rocks in a landscape bed located at 440 US Highway 72]
FIRST CASE IS, UM, 9 0 1 BOWL.DO YOU WANT TO PRESENT? MARIA WILL BE MAKING THAT PRESENTATION TODAY.
SO THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER, UM, MR. JOSE FLORES, I THINK HE'S IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT, IS REQUESTING RECOMMENDATION OF, UH, WAIVER FROM THE DESIGN GL GUIDELINES RELATED TO THE USE OF ROCK MULCH IN A MULTI-TENANT, UM, BUILDING, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE OF HIGHWAY 72 JUST SOUTH OF HARRIS STREET.
SO THE 6.26 ACRE PROPERTY IS ZONED GENERAL COMMERCIAL AND IS SURROUNDED BY GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONING TO THE EAST SEC ZONING TO THE WEST AND R THREE ZONING TO THE NORTH.
SO THE 64,000 SQUARE FOOT MULTI-TENANT BUILDING IS WITHIN THE COLLIERVILLE FUN QUEST FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT CENTER THAT WAS APPROVED IN 1998.
SO THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, WHICH IS, UH, FOUND IN EXHIBIT THREE OF YOUR PACKET SHOWS PLANTERS NEAR THE BUILDING'S ENTRANCES TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 1994.
SO DURING A RECENT, UH, SITE INSPECTION STAFF OB OBSERVED LARGE STONES RESEMBLING RIP PREP NEAR THE BUILDING'S FRONT ENTRANCES, AND A COURTESY LETTER WAS SENT TO THE APPLICANT INFORMING THEM OF THE VIOLATION.
SO IN APRIL, A SITE PLAN MODIFICATION APPLICATION WAS SUBMITTED FOR ROCK MULCH.
HOWEVER, THE USE OF ROCK MULCH, UH, REQUIRES A WAIVER FROM THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.
SO, AS YOU KNOW, ONLY THE BMA CAN APPROVE WAIVERS FROM THE GUIDELINES.
SO THE D C'S ROLE IS TO RECOMMEND TO THE BMA.
SO HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS SHOWING THE ROCK MULCH NEAR THE FRONT ENTRANCES OF THE BUILDING.
SO THE, THE APPLICANT ARGUES THAT USING ROCK IS MORE EFFECTIVE AND EASIER TO MAINTAIN FOR PREVENTING MOISTURE BUILDUP AND FOR CONTROLLING MOSQUITOES, WHICH, UH, THE APPLICANT SAYS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC HEALTH CONCERN.
SO, SO THE UH, DESIGN GUIDELINES SAY IT'S ESSENTIALLY SAYING, UM, EXPOSED GRAVEL OR ROCK IS NOT ALLOWED AND MULCH SHOULD BE ORGANIC.
UH, AND NATURALLY COLORED OUS PAVEMENT AND CONCRETE MAY BE CONSIDERED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
SO WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES FOR ORGANIC MULCH? IT COULD INCLUDE A COMBINATION OF USING CONCRETE PAVERS ON A SLOPE, WHICH IS, UM, SHOWN ON THE BOTTOM OF
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YOUR SCREEN AND THEN INSTALLING FRENCH DRAINS USING SMALLER STONES OR RAISING THE PLANT BEDS.SO A COMBINATION OF THIS COULD HELP WITH THE MOISTURE RETENTION AND THE MOSQUITO ISSUE THAT THE APPLICANT POINTED OUT.
SO IN THE PAST, A UH, OTHER SITES HAVE REQUESTED WAIVERS FOR ROCK MULCH AND THEY INCLUDE HAMPTON INN SOUTHERN SECURITY AND GLIDE EXPRESS.
SO HAMPTON INN WAS REQUIRED BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO USE NON FLAMMABLE MULCH BECAUSE THEY HAVE EFIS NEAR THE, NEAR, UM, THE BASE OF THE BUILDING TO REDUCE FIRE RISK.
SO FOR SOUTHERN SECURITY AND GUARD EXPRESS, THE DRC DENIED THOSE WAIVERS BECAUSE THEY WERE USING, UH, AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT OF GRAVEL.
SO THEY EVENTUALLY WITHDREW THEIR REQUEST AND DID NOT GO TO THE BMA FOR A FINAL DECISION.
SO IN 2024, THE DRC RECOMMENDED AND THE BMA APPROVED FOR A WAIVER FOR ROCK MULCH FOR WATER TOWER DISTRICT AND SHIELDING FARMS WITH THE CONDITION THAT IT'LL BE A HIGHER END PRODUCT WITH METAL EDGING AND LIMITED IN AREAS NO MORE THAN 75 SQUARE FEET AND IT IT WILL BE FOR CONTROL, UH, MANAGING, UH, THE DRAINAGE.
SO DETAILS OF THAT CASE IS FOUND IN EXHIBIT FOUR OF YOUR PACKET.
SO HERE ARE JUST SOME PHOTOS FROM THAT CASE FOR WATER TOWER DISTRICT SHOWING THE, THE SMOOTH STONE.
SO HAVING LARGE EXPENSES OF ROCK DOES NOT MEET THE INTENT OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.
SO WITH THAT SAID, STAFF CANNOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST UNLESS THE APPLICANT AGREES TO MODIFY THE DESIGN AND RE UH, REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF ROCKS BY USING A COMBINATION OF THE ALTERNATIVES THAT I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.
SO THE SAMPLE MOTION IS ON YOUR SCREEN.
THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE FOR, UH, THE BMA TO REVIEW THE REQUEST IN AUGUST AND IF THE WAIVER GETS DENIED, THE ROCK SHOULD BE REPLACED WITH MULCH OR SO, OR THE PROPERTY OWNER WILL BE CITED IN COURT.
SO, UH, THIS ENDS MY PRESENTATION AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO HAVE A COUPLE.
DO WE KNOW THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WAS REPLACED, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT FROM THE PICTURE IT'S UH, IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AND WERE THE ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE BIDS EVER THERE, THE RAISED ONES OR DO WE REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE FROM THE 1998 PLANS? MM-HMM
IT DOES NOT SHOW ANY RAISED BEDS.
IT, IT WAS, IT WAS FROM 1998, SO IT WAS PRETTY FADED.
IT WAS HAND DRAWN, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU A LIST OF THE VARIETY OF SHRUBS THAT THEY NEED, THE UM, THAT WILL GO TO THE LANDSCAPE BEDS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS THE LANDSCAPING LAND.
UM, WOULD WE HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD NOW AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? HELLO, MY NAME'S JOSE FLORES JR.
AND OUR ADDRESS IS 4 4 0 US 72 US HIGHWAY 72 WEST.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO PRESENT? YES.
SO MY FAMILY ACTUALLY TOOK OVER THIS BUILDING I THINK ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO AND BEFORE WE TOOK IT OVER, IT WAS PRETTY MUCH JUST ALL GRASS AND SHRUBS.
IT WAS CAUSING A HEALTH CONCERN.
AND WE DO HAVE, UM, VULNERABLE POPULATIONS THAT ATTEND THERE, SUCH AS PEN PALS, WHICH
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IS A DOWN SYNDROME ASSOCIATION EVENT AT THE BOWLING SIDE.AND THEN ALSO WE HAVE 9 0 1 THERAPY THERE WHERE WE DO SERVE, UH, NEURODIVERGENT CHILDREN AS WELL AS UM, CHILDREN FROM LAB BONNER AND ST.
SO WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING THAT COULD, UH, TAKE CARE OF THE MOSQUITO PROBLEM, THE BREEDING PROBLEM.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE BEEN DOING RENOVATIONS TO THE BUILDING AS WE MOVED IN.
WE SPENT ABOUT 10 TO $20,000 ON PATCHING THE ROOF AND WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE THE ROOF COMPLETELY BECAUSE IT'S STILL LEAKING.
THAT'S GONNA COST AROUND 200 TO $300,000 AND WE ALSO HAVE TO, UH, REPAVE THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT.
THAT WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION? UM, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR APPLICANT? WHY DID YOU YOU CHOOSE SUCH A LARGE STONE? IT WAS JUST, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT WE CALL RIP WRAP IN THE BUSINESS, RIGHT? CHOOSE TO STABILIZE BIG SLOPES.
IT'S NOT FOR DECORATIVE PURPOSES AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT USED FOR ANY KIND OF DRAINAGE CONTROL ON LARGE, UM, BUILDINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WELL, IT HAS BEEN, UM, EFFECTIVE IN OUR EXPERIENCE WITH UH, GETTING RID OF THE MOSQUITO PROBLEMS, WHICH IS PRIMARILY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET RID OF.
WERE ANY OTHER METHODS CONSIDERED OR JUST THIS ONE? UH, JUST THIS ONE PRIMARILY.
AND DO YOU DO HAVE INTERNAL ROOF DRAINS HERE OR WHERE DO YOUR ROOF DRAINS OUTLET, DO YOU KNOW? I'M PRETTY SURE THAT OUR ROOF DRAINS GO TO THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING BUT IT ALSO PEAKS OVER THE TOP WHERE OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, ALRIGHT, UM, I GUESS WE'RE GONNA JUST, YOU CAN SIT BACK DOWN.
WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS, UM, OUR THOUGHTS OR OPINIONS.
I THINK THAT'S DEFINITELY IS NOT, NOT APPROPRIATE.
YOU GOTTA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, I THINK.
YEAH, CONSIDERED ALL, I THINK LIKE THE FRENCH DRAIN, SMALLER WRAPS.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
ARE THESE, UM, ARE THESE DOWNSPOUTS RIGHT HERE? CAN YOU TELL? I WAS TRYING TO, WAS TRYING TO, ROOF WATER HAS TO BE HANDLED TYPICALLY, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'RE MORE OR LESS FLAT ROOF.
THEY HAVE DOWNSPOUTS TYPICALLY, RIGHT? I KNOW THERE'S OVERFLOW DRAINS ON THE SIDES.
I COULD SEE, BUT, UH, I COULDN'T TELL WHERE THE DOWN SPOTS.
YEAH, THERE'S OVERFLOW
AND AS FAR AS MOSQUITOES GO, IT'S TYPICAL TO DO.
YOU'D HAVE JUST AS MUCH A PROBLEM WITH THE COURSE ROCK LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT GETS TO THE, UM, HARD PANT DOWN THERE.
AS FAR AS MOSQUITOES GO, IT WOULDN'T, THAT WOULDN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM IF THERE'S THAT MUCH WATER.
IF THEY HAVE THAT MUCH WATER AROUND THEIR FOOTING, THEN THEY'VE GOT A WORSE PROBLEM IN MOSQUITOES.
'CAUSE THE DOWNSPOUT SHOULD HANDLE MOST ALL, ALL THE WATER THAT COMES OFF THAT ROOF.
UM, DON CODA, DID YOU WANT US TO RECOMMEND SOMETHING ELSE OR JUST TAKE A VOTE? UM, YOU CAN TAKE A VOTE AND, UM, I THINK TAKING A VOTE WILL BE WILL SUFFICE.
UM, ARE WE GONNA ENTERTAIN A MOTION? YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE BMA GRANT WAIVER OF DESIGN GUIDELINES TO ALLOW FOR INORGANIC LIMESTONE ROT MULCH.
UM, IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? UH, WE ALWAYS MAKE A MOTION IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
UM, ANGELA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO CALL ROLL COMMISSIONER LAWHON? NO.
UM, SO THIS PROJECT WAS NOT APPROVED AND YOU COULD GO TO THE VMA WITH THAT.
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YOUR INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY THOUGH, AND I'M SURE YOU CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE SOLUTION WITH STAFF.[9.a Thompson Machinery Subdivision (Thompson Machinery Campus) - Review and Discuss Exterior Elevations for four (4) industrial buildings, located east of Sycamore Road north of State Route 385]
GO TO OTHER BUSINESS THOMPSON MACHINERY SUBDIVISION.THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS NON-VOTING ITEM IS FOR FEEDBACK FOR A POTENTIAL INDUSTRIAL CAMPUS IS LOCATED JUST NORTH OF 3 85 AND EAST OF SYCAMORE ROAD.
THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL IS A TWO H.
THE APPLICANT IS MCCARTY GRANDBERRY ENGINEERING AND THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY 10 TOM REAL REALTY.
THE FOUR LOT DEVELOPMENT IS ABOUT 57 ACRES AND IT INCLUDES A MAIN OFFICE, UM, A THOMPSON ENERGY SOLUTIONS BUILDING, A RENTAL BUILDING AND A TRAINING BUILDING.
ON YOUR SCREEN, YOU'LL SEE A 3D RENDERING OF WHAT THE ENTIRE FOUR LOCK CAMPUS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO NEXT I'LL GO OVER SOME INDIVIDUAL SLIDES OF SOME OF THE BUILDINGS YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FOLLOW ALONG IN YOUR PACKED, UH, DRC MEMO PACKETS IF YOU HAVE 'EM.
SO FIRST, HERE'S THE LAYOUT OF THE RENTAL BUILDING AND THE TES BUILDING.
THEY'RE LOCATED JUST ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE FUTURE EXTENDED WINCHESTER ROAD.
THIS BUILDING IS A RENDERING OF THE RENTAL BUILDING AND THE VIEW FROM THE VIEW IS FACING NORTHWEST.
THE SECOND BUILDING THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN PINK IS THE TES BUILDING.
AND THAT IS THE, IT'S THE SAME PERSPECTIVE FACING NORTHWEST.
AND THESE ARE TWO PROPOSED RENDERINGS, UH, OR TWO VERSIONS OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
SO YOU'LL SEE THERE'S AN OPTION A AND OPTION B, UM, AND DE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL COULD GO IN MORE DETAIL ABOUT THOSE TWO DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
HERE IS THE LAYOUT FOR THE MAIN BUILDING, WHICH IS THE OFFICE BUILDING.
AND THIS DIRECTLY ABUTS 3 85 TO THE, TO THE NORTH.
AND HERE THEY PROVIDED A COUPLE PERSPECTIVES FROM THE ROAD.
THIS VIEW IS FROM HIGHWAY FROM 3 85 AND THIS NEXT VIEW IS FROM THE MAIN BUILDING ON THE FEATURE WINCHESTER EXTENDED ROAD.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED THREE VERSIONS OF THIS BUILDING AND THEY, LIKE I SAID EARLIER, THEY CAN GO INTO DETAIL ABOUT THE THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS THEY PROVIDED.
SO STAFF PROVIDED SOME FEEDBACK TO THE APPLICANT DURING OUR PRE-APPLICATION MEETING WE HAD WITH THEM LAST MONTH.
NO FORMAL APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED AT THIS TIME.
AND PLEASE REMEMBER THESE RENDERINGS ARE, UM, NON-BINDING AS THEY'RE CONCEPTUAL.
THE APPLICANT AND THE DEVELOPER AND THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL, THEY ARE HERE AND AT THIS TIME THERE, I DON'T, I KNOW YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THERE'S NO RENDERINGS FOR THE TRAINING BUILDING.
UM, SO I DO HAVE ADDITIONAL SLIDES AT THE END WITH MARKUPS THAT THE DESIGN PROFESSIONAL PROVIDED AND I'LL BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THOSE AS TO APPLICANT WISHES.
AND SO PER YOUR DRC MEMO THAT I PROVIDED, THERE ARE SOME QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT UP AT THIS MEETING.
THERE ARE ABOUT EIGHT QUESTIONS AND THAT WE, WE NEED TO DISCUSS THESE TONIGHT ABOUT THESE RENDERINGS.
AND THEN LASTLY, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THERE IS A SUPPLEMENTAL EXHIBIT THAT IS AT YOUR DESK.
THOSE ARE THE RENDERING MARKUPS THAT THE PROVI THE, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED EARLIER TODAY.
THEY'RE JUST SOME, JUST A FEW MORE DETAILS ON THOSE RENDERINGS.
AND THIS DOES CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION AND THE APPLICANT'S HERE.
AND I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
JOHN MCCARTY, 1 98 PROGRESS ROAD HERE IN CARLTON.
GOOD TO SEE Y'ALL THIS EVENING.
UH, WE'VE GOT OUR, UH, A GOOD PORTION OF OUR TEAM HERE TONIGHT.
UM, OUR GOAL IS TO HEAR SOME FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL.
I KNOW Y'ALL HAVEN'T HAD A LONG TIME TO STUDY IT.
UM, WE'LL PROBABLY POK AND PROD YOU AND SHOW YOU SOME OF THE DETAILS AND GET FEEDBACK.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S A A VERY LARGE INDUSTRIAL CAMPUS AND IT'S NOT EASY TO INTERPRET SOME OF THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT Y'ALL MIGHT SEE SOME OF THE ITEMS AND HOW Y'ALL WANT 'EM.
SO WE THOUGHT IT'D BE GREAT TO COME AND START WITH THIS AND GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL.
UM, I'M GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TO BUG DON QUITE A, SHE'S NEVER GIVEN ME THE REMOTE CONTROL BEFORE.
UM,
I KNOW A LOT OF Y'ALL ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE OVERALL, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE
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SUBDIVISION PACKAGE THAT WE'VE GOT BEING APPROVED OR IT'S BEEN APPROVED.IT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
UM, DOES THE, CAN YOU STILL WRITE ON THE SCREEN?
ALRIGHT, SO DISREGARD THAT CIRCLE I MADE.
SO HERE'S THE SYCAMORE ROAD AND 3 85 IS PRETTY EASY TO SEE.
THE HIGH SCHOOL IS TO THE SOUTH, UH, THE NEW FIRE STATIONS TO THE SOUTH.
WE ARE CURRENTLY, UH, EXTENDING WINCHESTER ROAD FROM THE EAST WHERE THERE'S CURRENTLY NO WINCHESTER ROAD, BUT IT'S GONNA BE CONNECTED TO WHAT IS, UH, COMMERCE, UH, ROAD RIGHT NOW.
IF YOU KNOW WHERE ALAN'S CARPET AND BOWLING'S ANIMAL CLINIC IS, IS BASICALLY THAT REALLY WIDE ROAD THAT USED TO NOT GO ANYWHERE WILL BE THIS EXTENSION OF WINCHESTER IN THE FUTURE.
WINCHESTER WILL EXTEND UP HERE AND CONNECT TO WHERE EX WINCHESTER, UM, UM, DEAD ENDS OR TURNS INTO COWEN RIGHT NOW.
UM, ALL OF THIS LAND IS, UH, ZONED RESTRICTED INDUSTRIAL.
UM, THE THOMPSON MACHINERY PURCHASED THIS LAND, UH, A PART OF THE OLD CARTWRIGHT ESTATE.
AND, UM, THEY'RE DEVELOPING IT INTO, UH, THEIR CAMPUS, UH, FOR FOUR OF THEIR SITES.
THEY'RE GONNA CONSOLIDATE ALL OF THEIR OPERATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN MEMPHIS HERE.
UM, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE, UH, A, A WELL WORKING CAMPUS WITH ALL OF THEIR OPERATIONS SIDE BY SIDE, UNLIKE WHERE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW.
AND, UH, THEY SPECIFICALLY CHOSE CARVILLE.
THEY DID, THEY DO WANNA DO A NICE BUILDING, BUT WE ALL KNOW THE, THE JOYS OF DEVELOPING LARGE INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS IN CARVILLE.
IT'S, UH, YOU HAVE TO TO WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE WE GET 'EM RIGHT AND WE'RE HOPING TO HEAR FROM Y'ALL SOME GOOD ADVICE ON THAT.
SO, DISTRIBUTION RIGHT NOW, UH, IT'S ALSO BEING EXTENDED.
UH, IT CURRENTLY ENDS JUST SOUTH 72.
THERE'S TWO INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS, UM, WHERE DISTRIBUTION'S AT 72.
UM, ONE OF 'EM IS A FEDEX BUILDING AND I THINK THE OTHER ONE'S AN IPS BUILDING.
SO WE'RE GONNA BUILD A TWO LANE ROAD BETWEEN OUR SITE AND THE EXISTING ROAD AND CONNECT IT, BUT IT WON'T BE A COMPLETE ROAD.
IT'LL BE TWO LANES OF THE FUTURE, FOUR LANES, WE'RE CROSSING SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY.
AND, UH, WE WANTED TO HAVE A LOOP ON OUR CAMPUS TO BE ABLE TO GET BACK OUT.
AND WE'RE NOT CONNECTING WINCHESTER OR SYCAMORE DUE TO, UM, THE LARGE TRUCKS THAT WILL COME TO THIS SITE.
AND SYCAMORE IS NOT USEFUL FOR, UH, THE LARGE, UH, TRUCKS THAT CARRY THE HEAVY MACHINES IN AND OUT.
UM, THE, THE MAIN BUILDING IS GONNA PHASE HIGHWAY 72.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE GOOD SIDE OF THAT BUILDING AND WE'VE LEFT IS MANY TREES AS POSSIBLE.
ALL OF THIS AREA'S BEEN LEFT TREE.
UH, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN DOWN THERE, YOU CAN SEE, UM, WHERE SOME TREES HAVE BEEN REMOVED BASICALLY ALONG THE FRONT OF IT.
UM, DON KOTICK COULD PROBABLY DROP THE GOOGLE MAN DOWN ON, UH, 3 85 RIGHT NOW, AND YOU'LL SEE IF YOU'VE NOT NOTICED IT COMING THROUGH THERE.
UM, SOMETIMES THERE'S A, UH, TARGET TRUCK IN THE WAY.
KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING.
KEEP GOING TO THE RIGHT, TO THE RIGHT.
OH, SO YOU SEE THE FIRE STATION TURN BACK AROUND.
SO YEAH, YOU CAN SEE IF YOU GO A LITTLE BIT TO THE WEST, YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT'S CLEARED MORE OPEN, BUT THERE ARE TREES ALL ALONG THERE.
UM, YEAH, YOU'RE CATCHING UP WITH THE TARGET TRUCK, BUT, SO YOU CAN SEE THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE WELL THROUGH THE TREES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE THAT'S FACING NORTHWEST, RIGHT? CORRECT, YES.
UM, IF YOU, UM, ACTUALLY GO DRIVE EASTBOUND ON 3 85, I'LL DRAW AN ARROW IN THIS AREA.
LIKE THERE'S STILL REALLY GOOD TREE COVER IN THIS AREA.
YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SEE IT, BUT ONCE YOU GET IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE BUILDING PRETTY WELL.
UM, THE, THE OVERALL ASPECTS OF THE SITE, UM, SO THE, THE, THE WEST WING OF THE BUILDING IS REALLY ALL SHOP AND I'LL HAVE GARAGE DOORS ON BOTH SIDES.
UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS IS HEARING FROM Y'ALL ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE THE GARAGE DOORS LOOK LIKE.
THEY WON'T BE HIGHLY VISIBLE ON THAT, THAT END AND THEN THE YARD FARTHER WEST.
UM, BUT ON THE EAST SIDE, THERE'S NO GARAGE DOORS ON THE SIDE THAT FACES, UH, 3 85.
UM, THE OTHER SITES ARE A LOT SMALLER AND NOT AS, UH, PROBLEMATIC, UM, BUT THEY STILL HAVE A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL ASPECTS TO 'EM.
THE, UH, THE LOT SEVEN, THIS ONE, THE TS BUILDING, IT'S GOT, UM, THREE DRIVEWAYS ON IT.
IT'LL HAVE GARAGE DOORS THAT ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE THE MOST VISIBLE, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SCREENING AND FENCE.
UH, IF Y'ALL HAVE GOT ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, I'LL TRY TO ANSWER 'EM.
IF NOT, WE'VE GOT ARCHITECTS THAT CAN TALK A LOT BETTER ABOUT ARCHITECTURE THAT CAN GO INTO THE DETAILS AND THE MATERIALS AND THE FACADES OF THE BUILDING.
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THANK YOU.DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR JOHN? WELL, JOHN, ARE IS THAT, THAT'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL BRIDGE, I GUESS YOU GUYS ARE BUILDING, RIGHT? OH, YES, YES.
IT'S A VERY SUBSTANTIAL BRIDGE.
IT'S, UH, YEAH, WE WILL, WE WILL BE BRINGING IN THE, THE LARGEST OF THE CATERPILLAR EQUIPMENT TO THE, THE LOT ONE, THE MAIN BUILDING SITE.
UM, THE OTHER SITES, THE TES IS BASICALLY THEIR, UM, POWER UNITS.
IF YOU EVER NEED REALLY SERIOUS POWER, LIKE 18 WHEELER, UH, GENERATORS, THAT'S WHERE THEY WILL BE AT.
AND LOT EIGHT'S A RENTAL BUILDING.
LIKE IF YOU'RE GONNA RENT A BACKHOE OR A DOZER, UH, EXCAVATOR OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES, IT'LL BE FROM THAT BUILDING.
WELL, WILL THE PUBLIC ACCESS JUST THE RENTAL, THE GENERAL PUBLIC OR? SO, UH, NOBODY'S PROBABLY GENERAL PUBLIC THAT RENTS BULLDOZERS OR TRACKHOES, BUT YEAH, I MEAN THE PEOPLE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THESE SITES.
THE THE MAIN ACCESS INTO THE MAIN BUILDING WILL BE FROM THE NEW WINCHESTER AND THERE WILL BE A EXIT OUT TO SYCAMORE, BUT IT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE USED FOR ANY OF THE EQUIPMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT IT'LL BE A, A LOOP ROAD TO SERVE THE CAMPUS.
UM, THE GENERAL PUBLIC WILL COME TO ALL OF 'EM, BUT IT'S THE, THE NATURE OF THE ROAD SYSTEM THROUGH THERE, IT'S THROUGH REALLY UNTIL WINCHESTER EXTENDS OVER TO BA HELL, IT'LL BE JUST PEOPLE COMING TO THESE SITES OR THE OTHER FEATURE SITES.
UH, THE THOMPSON MACHINERY OPERATION HAS ADDITIONAL PROPERTY THAT, THAT IS BEING DEVELOPED WITH THIS, THAT AT SOME POINT THE FUTURE THEY COULD SELL IT TO OTHER INDUSTRIAL USERS GARAGE.
CAN YOU SHOW ME AGAIN EXACTLY WHERE THOSE WILL BE? YEAH, RICK IS GONNA GO INTO A LOT OF DETAIL.
BUT, BUT THE, BASICALLY THE ENERGY BUILDING'S GONNA HAVE GARAGE DOORS ON THAT SIDE AND ON THIS SIDE, THE, THE RENTAL WILL HAVE LIMITED GARAGE DOORS ON IT, AND THE MAIN BUILDING WILL HAVE GARAGE DOORS ALL ALONG BOTH OF THESE WINGS, UH, BOTH SIDES OF THE, THE WEST WING AND ONLY ON LIMITED ON THE EAST AND, UH, NORTH SIDE OF THE MAIN BUILDING.
SO THERE WILL BE NO GARAGE DOORS HERE.
THAT WOULD BE THE, THE MOST VISIBLE PART FROM THE INTERSTATE.
WHAT'S THE MATERIAL? IS THAT BRICK ON THAT? SO, UH, IT'S A MIX OF, UH, MASONRY AND UH, UH, METAL PANELS SIMILAR TO THE, UH, FAUCET BUILDING.
I'LL LET RICK, IF Y'ALL GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, RICK CAN GO IN A LOT BETTER DETAIL.
IF YOU ANY OTHER SITE QUESTIONS, I WOULD LOVE TO ANSWER 'EM.
UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, RICK FROM A TWO H IS THE, UH, THE LEAD ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT THAT HE CAN GET INTO ALL THE MATERIALS AND GARAGE DOORS.
OUR, OUR MAIN GOAL IS TO HEAR AS MUCH FEEDBACK AS WE CAN.
UM, WE, UH, WE UNDERSTAND THE, THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND, AND THESE SIZE AND SCALE BUILDINGS ARE COMPLICATED.
UM, HE'S GOT SOME EXAMPLES TO SHOW YOU ON SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE DID ON THE, UM, THE FAUCET BUILDING, BUT ALSO THE, THE ORACLE PROJECT.
UM, I ASSUME MOST Y'ALL WERE ALL ON THE DRC WHEN THE ORACLE PROJECT CAME THROUGH.
UM, THE, THE NEW ORACLE THAT'S ON THE BAILEY STATION SIDE, NO OTHER SITE QUESTION.
YEAH, THIS IS, I CAN GO THROUGH THE SLIDES.
MY NAME IS RICK MCALLISTER, 65 GERMANTOWN PARKWAY.
SO THAT WAS A LOT, EVERYONE GAVE YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT IT'S A VERY COMPLEX PROJECT BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT BUILDINGS AND THE SCALE.
AND SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE LOOKED AT WAS, OKAY, HOW DO THEY FIT OFF THE SITE? BUT THE SECOND PART WAS HOW DO THEY MEET YOUR GUIDELINES? YOUR GUIDELINES ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TRYING TO APPLY THEM ACROSS ALL BUILDING TYPES AND IT'S DIFFICULT WHEN YOU GET A BUILDING THAT'S 175,000 SQUARE FOOT
THAT'S HOW BIG THE MAIN BUILDING IS.
SO WHEN UNDERSTANDING SORT OF THE, THE COMPLEXITY OF THIS, IT JUST CHANGES YOUR IDEA OF HOW YOU BREAK DOWN A BUILDING LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S, IT, IT BECOMES, UM, YOU STILL DO THE SAME APPROACH.
YOU STILL FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT SMALLER.
HOW DO YOU BREAK IT INTO COMPONENT PIECES? HOW DO YOU DO IT WITH THE, YOU YOU HAVE SOME EXCELLENT, UM, GUIDELINES TO TALK ABOUT MATERIALS AND COLOR AND, AND FIGURE OUT DIFFERENT PLANES.
SO, SO WHAT, WE DID A LITTLE BIT OF THIS JUST WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WITH THE VOLUME OF SPACE AND OH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE FAST AT THIS.
UM, AND WE'LL FOCUS ON THE MAIN BUILDING BECAUSE I THINK WHAT, WHAT WE REALIZED THAT WAS PROBABLY OUR BIGGEST CHALLENGE BECAUSE HOW DO YOU MAKE THAT ONE FEEL
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THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THERE? IT, THIS BUILDING, IT HAS, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, IT'S JUST THE, THE SIZE OF IT.THERE ARE COMPONENT PIECES THAT REALLY DON'T FIT IN YOUR DESIGN ICON, LIKE THE GARAGE DOORS.
UM, AND JUST THE SHEER SIZE OF IT.
HOW DO YOU BREAK UP A WALL THAT'S 40 FOOT TALL? IT REALLY DOESN'T NEED ANY WINDOWS.
IT REALLY DOESN'T NEED ANYTHING.
IT JUST NEEDS TO PROTECT THE ENVIRONMENT INSIDE.
BUT IT HAS A COMPONENT AS YOU'RE SEEING FROM SOME OF THE GOOGLE EARTH.
IT, IT ALLOWS IT TO BE SCREENED NATURALLY.
COMING UP 3 85, THAT'S KIND OF NICE.
SO THIS THING BEING JUST PROMINENT ACROSS THE WHOLE DRIVE, UM, YOU DO JUST CATCH GLIMPSES OF IT.
AND THE PART WHERE YOU SEE THE MOST IS REALLY THIS MAIN BUILDING.
AND, AND IT'S THAT, IT'S THAT OFFICE HEADQUARTER PIECE.
SO BECAUSE OF THAT, YOU'RE ABLE TO USE A LOT OF THE COMPONENTS THAT YOU TALK ABOUT IN THE GUIDELINES.
YOU CAN START BRINGING SCALE AND YOU CAN START BRINGING IN SOME, SOME MATERIALS THAT, THAT PEOPLE ARE USED TO.
WE'RE NOT USED TO WALKING UP THE 40 STORY BUILDINGS OF METAL AND GO, THIS FEELS REALLY GOOD.
BUT WHEN YOU WALK INTO A BUILDING THAT HAS A CANOPY AND HAS SOME STONE BASE AND HAS SOME MATERIALS THAT LOOK LIKE WOOD, MAY NOT BE WOOD, BUT THEY START FEELING LIKE WOOD.
THEY START TO BRING THIS BACK TO A SCALE THAT SEEMS HUMAN.
UM, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF HUMAN INTERACTION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF MACHINERY.
SO WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO ON THIS MAIN BUILDING IS ACTUALLY BREAK IT INTO THREE COMPONENTS.
WE KNOW WE'VE GOT THE HEADQUARTERS, WHICH IS SORT OF THE OFFICE PIECE OUT FRONT.
THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR PRIMARY SORT OF VISTA, UH, THAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE INTO THE BUILDING.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THESE TWO SIDE PIECES.
THEY'RE REALLY, THEY'RE REALLY FUNCTIONAL.
SO THEY'RE BRINGING EQUIPMENT IN AND OUT, AND THEY'VE GOT STUFF THEY'RE DOING INSIDE THERE WITH CRANES AND STUFF.
YOU HAVE TO GO SEE IT WHEN IT'S DONE.
IT'S ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, UH, AS A TOY BOX OF JUST COOL PARTS AND PIECES.
BUT THEY DO STUFF IN THERE THAT'S, THAT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY HUGE IN SCALE.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SEE.
THEY WANT TO KNOW HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE BREAK THIS DOWN? SO THE FIRST THING WAS, OKAY, TAKE THIS LARGE BUILDING.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S GOT AN OFFSET SHIFT TO IT.
THEY VERY WELL COULD HAVE BEEN JUST ONE BIG LONG BUILDING.
WE, WE PURPOSELY MADE THIS SO THAT THE TWO WINGS ARE PUSHED BACK THAT DON'T HAVE AS MUCH DETAIL TO THEM.
AND THEN THE PIECE THAT I'LL SAY REALLY ALLOWS YOU TO PUT THE MATERIALS THAT INTERACT, PUSH THAT FORWARD.
SO THAT HAS THE CANOPY, IT HAS THE GLASS.
I'LL SHOW YOU SOME CLOSER PICTURE OF IT.
BUT THAT HAS, THAT HAS STUFF THAT YOU'VE SEEN AND, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH.
BUT THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS IF WE CAN GET A A, A COLLECTION OF MATERIAL THAT WORKS FOR THE BIG BUILDING SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE IT ON THE SMALLER BUILDINGS.
SO THE IDEA IS YOU GET A COLLECTION OF, I'LL, I'LL SAY IT'S METAL PANEL, IT'S STONE, IT'S THE COLORS.
BUT IF WE APPLY THOSE IN EACH OF THE OPTIONS, THEN WE START GETTING A CAMPUS FEEL.
SO ONE BUILDING DOESN'T FEEL LIKE IT'S STANDING BY ITSELF.
IT ACTUALLY FEELS LIKE IT'S A COLLECTIVE.
YOU'VE BEEN ON CAMPUSES THAT ALL HAVE THE RED BRICK AND THE WHITE, AND THEY, THEY FEEL GREAT BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL PART, YOU REALLY DON'T NOTICE THE SIZE OF THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE A COLLECTIVE.
SO IN THIS INSTANCE, THAT WAS KIND OF THE INTENT, CAN WE MAKE THIS A CAMPUS FEEL BY USING SOME SIMILAR MATERIALS? WE'LL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES, THEN WE'LL ASK FOR YOUR FEEDBACK TO SEE IF WE WERE AT LEAST, UH, TRACKING TOWARDS THE RIGHT THING.
SO, UM, WHEN WE FIRST GOT INVOLVED, WE'RE LIKE, WELL, WHERE ARE SOME OTHER EXAMPLES THAT HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN COLLIERVILLE? WELL, THERE WERE TWO THAT WERE REALLY PROMINENT, AND ONE IS THAT FAUCET CAVING.
IT HAS A LOT OF COMPONENT PIECES THAT WE HAVE.
I CAN SEE 'EM, THEY'RE JUST OVER THE FENCE.
BUT THE WAY THAT THEY'RE INCORPORATED INTO THE BUILDING AND THE WAY THAT THEY PUT THINGS IN FRONT TO DRAW YOUR EYE THERE INSTEAD OF TO THAT COMPONENT MAKES IT PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.
LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS A LOT OF FOCUS ON LANDSCAPING UP FRONT.
LOOKS LIKE THERE WAS SOME IDEA ABOUT PUTTING SOME REALLY NICE FENCING THAT TO AGAIN, SHIELD, BUT ALSO DRAW YOUR EYE TO IT, NOT TO THE STUFF THAT'S BEYOND.
THERE'S SOME INTEREST WITH THE ROOF LINES THAT START GIVING YOU SOME DYNAMIC OF WHAT'S GOING BEYOND.
AGAIN, WE'RE JUST TRYING NOT TO FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT, THAT REALLY AREN'T, IT'S HARD TO MAKE A, IT'S HARD TO MAKE A GR A BIG GARAGE DOOR LOOK REALLY APPEALING.
SO, SO WE'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THOSE THINGS.
THIS, THIS, THIS LOWER BUILDING IS ABOUT AS LONG AS OURS.
THIS, THIS IS A MASSIVE BUILDING.
UM, IT, IT'S NOT HIDDEN BY ANY TREES.
THOSE TREES PROBABLY STILL NEED TO GROW UP A LITTLE BIT.
BUT YOU CAN SEE IT WAS IN THAT THREE PART.
THEY SAID, HOW DO YOU TAKE A BIG BUILDING? HOW DO YOU BREAK IT APART? HOW DO YOU BRING IT DOWN TO SCALE? THAT'S SIMILAR WHAT WE DID WITH OUR MAIN BUILDING.
THEY ALSO STARTED USING SOME, AND I THINK IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL, THEY STARTED USING DIFFERENT VARIED DOCKS.
YOU HAVE TO BRING THESE THINGS DOWN IN PROPORTION AND JUST BECOME OVERWHELMING.
SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE USING, YOU KNOW, SOME CANOPIES, SOME REVEALS SOME DIFFERENT THINGS TO TRY TO SAY, OKAY, HEY, IT'S NOT 40 FOOT TALL.
THE THING YOU'RE ENCOUNTERING IS 18 FOOT TALL.
THEN THERE'S A CORNER THAT'S 25 FOOT TALL.
THEN THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S 35 FOOT TALL.
THAT'S JUST A DIFFERENT WAY TO EXPERIENCE THINGS.
SO WE TOOK THESE AS JUST GOOD BASIS FOR DESIGN AND SAID, WELL, HOW DO WE APPROACH IT? THE TOP IMAGE YOU SEE HERE IS BASICALLY WHAT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THAT LARGE MAIN BUILDING OFF TO THE EAST.
UH, THAT IS A, UH, A WEST, I'M SORRY.
THAT IS A, THAT IS A, A MAJOR.
AM I RIGHT JOHN? EAST OR WEST? SO THE RIDES TO THE
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EAST, RIGHT? TO THE OKAY.UM, I MEAN THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IF IT'S JUST A BOX AND YOU COVER IT MATERIAL AND WE'RE GOING, WELL, THAT'S NOT IT.
AND THEN WE SAID, WELL WAIT A MINUTE.
IF WE TAKE SOME OF THOSE LESSONS LEARNED, THOSE ARE PROJECTS.
LET'S PUT SOME HORIZONTALS IN HERE.
LET'S START BREAKING UP THE MATERIALS.
AND IT WAS USING YOUR DESIGN GUIDELINES GOING, HOW DO WE DO THAT? AND SO WE STARTED, OKAY, WHAT ABOUT SOME BANDING IN THIS THING? WHAT'S THAT? START MAKING IT? DOES IT BREAK DOWN A LITTLE BIT? AND THEN FINALLY GOING, WAIT A SECOND, YOU HAVE SOME THINGS IN THERE, BUT MAYBE 30 FOOT IS WHERE WE WANT TO GO BEFORE WE HAVE A CHANGE OF MATERIAL.
IT ACTUALLY REALLY HELPED BECAUSE WE COULD START USING THAT ALONG WITH THE BASE BASING THAT THESE GUYS HAVE AND START USING DIFFERENT MATERIALS TO GIVE SOME INTEREST TO THE SPACE.
SO THAT WAS A STUDY WE'RE TRYING TO SHOW YOU THAT IT STARTED AS A BOX.
IT SORT OF TURNED INTO A LITTLE MORE ORNATE BOX.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, THAT'S THAT MAIN, UH, SORT OF OFFICE COMPONENT PIECE TWO STORY OFFICE COMPONENT PIECE.
BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE, WE'RE HOPING, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT PERFECT.
THE RENDERINGS ALWAYS BEAUTIFUL SKIES AND THE TREES ARE PERFECT AND THERE'S NO BUGS.
BUT, UM, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE HOPING AS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN, UH, THE INTERSTATE.
YOU SEE THIS OFF THE DISTANCE.
THIS IS AFTER THE TREES PARKED.
YOU GET TO SEE THIS CLEAR VIEW OF WHAT REPRESENTS THOMPSON CAT CON, TOP OF MACHINERIES.
I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT SOME REALLY WONDERFUL THINGS, BUT IF WE CAN MAKE THAT FEEL REALLY APPEALING FROM THE HIGHWAY, I, I THINK THAT GIVES YOU A GLIMPSE OF WHAT THEY DO.
WE DON'T HAVE TO SHOW EVERY GARAGE DOOR AND EVERY WALL.
IT'S GOT A NICE LITTLE OPENING OF THAT BUSINESS.
HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW A LITTLE CLOSER.
YOU CAN SEE THE, THE HORIZONTAL BAND.
WE'RE LOOKING AT USING A SYNTHETIC, SYNTHETIC, IT'S A METAL, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE WOOD, BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S HIGH.
AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM SIDE OF THESE CANOPIES IS THE, IS THE OWNER MAKING A FACE OF ME RIGHT NOW? 'CAUSE SOMETIMES I MAKE A FACE WHEN I TALK ABOUT WOOD
UM, BUT WE REALIZE THAT YOU HAVE TO BRING SOME SOFTNESS, YOU HAVE TO BRING SOME WARMTH TO THIS BUILDING, OTHERWISE IT JUST BECOMES A VERY METALLIC, UH, POSITION.
BUT THIS IS, THIS WOULD BE WELL MAINTAINED AND IT'S CERTAINLY A, A DURABLE PRODUCT THAT'S BEEN USED SUCCESSFULLY.
SO AGAIN, TRYING TO BRING THAT WARMTH, TRYING TO BRING THOSE MATERIALS.
YOU CAN TAKE A PEEK AT 'EM TO GET A FEEL FOR IT.
THE OTHER THING THAT'S OF INTEREST WHEN WE TALK ABOUT A LARGE BUILDING IS HOW DO YOU SKIN IT? WELL, YOU CAN JUST USE WRINKLED METAL.
THAT'S, EVERYONE DOESN'T LOVE THAT.
I MEAN, HAVE A WHOLE HOUSETON OF THAT.
BUT THEY MAKE AN INSULATED METAL PANEL ALSO, WHICH ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE IT'S A FINISHED, MORE FINISHED PRODUCT.
AND I HAVE, I HAVE ONE OF THOSE ALSO.
AND I THINK IT, I THINK IT'S GOOD JUST TO SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO.
LIKE YOU, YOU CAN SEE JUST THOSE TWO MEASURES.
THERE'S JUST A DIFFERENCE OF FINISH KIND OF FEEL.
SO YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN, PROBABLY BEEN IN SEVERAL BUILDINGS THAT HAVE THIS, THIS ONE IS PROBABLY WHAT YOU SEE LESS.
THIS IS MUCH MORE INDUSTRIAL FIELD, BUT WE HAVE 175,000 SQUARE FEET TO COLOR TO COVER.
THIS ONE'S MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT WE THINK THIS ONE MAKES A LOT OF SENSE WHERE THE PUBLIC IS GONNA BE.
SO YOU ASKED WHERE DO THEY INTERACT WITH THE BUILDINGS? EVERY BUILDING HAS A BASICALLY AN ENTRY WHERE THE PUBLIC WILL JUST COME AND BE.
THIS ONE IS PROBABLY HAPPIER BACK WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE COMING TO PICK UP THEIR BOAT.
SO WE WERE TRYING TO USE THIS IN THE AREAS WHERE IT'S REALLY NOT HEAVY PUBLIC USE, JUST AS A MATERIAL, JUST AS A, AS A SINGLE SKIN ON A MATERIAL VERSUS THE, THE INSULATED.
YEAH, I WASN'T SURE HOW TO GET THROWN.
SO THIS DARK GRAY YOU SEE WITH THE, WITH THE THIN LINES ON IT, THAT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF THAT WHITE PANEL SYSTEM YOU SEE THERE.
THAT'S THE INSULATED METAL PANEL.
SO VERY CLEAN, HIDDEN FASTENERS, JUST LOOKS VERY FINISHED.
THE STUFF YOU SEE ON THE TWO WINGS, THOSE ARE, WE CAN GET THE RIB STUFF IN ABOUT SIX DIFFERENT PROFILES AND YOU GET 'EM IN ABOUT 20 DIFFERENT COLORS.
SO WHEN YOU SEE THE RENDERINGS ON THE SIDE WINGS, YOU'LL SEE THAT'S THE MATERIAL WE'RE LOOKING AT.
IT, WE ACTUALLY THINK WE WANT SOME OF THAT DEPTH AND SHADOWING TO MAKE THE BUILDING NOT FEEL SO MONOLITHIC.
BUT WE THINK THE FRONT NEEDS TO FEEL, JUST FEEL A LITTLE A, A A LITTLE MORE PRECISE.
WE SHOWED YOU THE, THE, THE ENTRY FROM, UH, THE, THE HIGHWAY.
BUT NOW THIS IS REALLY WHERE A LOT OF FOLKS ARE GONNA COME IN.
THERE'S A, A NEW BRIDGE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT'S ON THE BACKSIDE, BUT THAT WILL FUNNEL FOLKS IN.
THEY WILL ACTUALLY COME IN AND IF YOU'RE PUBLIC, YOU'LL TURN TO THE LEFT.
SO IT HAS TO SOMEWHAT GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF WAYFINDING.
IF YOU GO TO THE RIGHT, YOU'RE GOING TO PICK UP SOME GIANT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
AND, AND THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, THAT'S, THEY KIND OF KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
SO THIS IS A WAY TO ADDRESS THE PUBLIC.
I WANNA CALL IT THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING, BUT IT KIND OF IS, WE GOTTA DRIVE WE TO GET YOU AROUND TO THE FRONT WHERE YOU SAW THAT, UH, THAT INSULATED METAL PANEL.
SO THIS IS A VIEW, TRYING TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT FEELS LIKE COMING ACROSS THAT BRIDGE.
THERE'S A LOT OF AMENITIES GOING ON HERE.
YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SIDEWALKS, THERE'S A, JOHN DIDN'T SAY THERE'S A WALKING TRAIL THAT'S BEEN PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
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IT'S GONNA BE VERY NICE.I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT LAST ONE.
UM, SO IS THE WHITE STRIPED THING, IS THAT WHAT THE BLACK THING IS IT, IT IT IS IN, BUT PROBABLY NOT AT THAT.
SO THESE GUYS LOVE TO GIVE OUT SAMPLES, BUT THEY NEVER GIVE THE RIGHT SAMPLE.
SO THIS IS A SAMPLE THEY SENT US AND WE, IT WOULD BE A BIGGER, BIGGER SHEET OF THAT I GUESS.
SO THE, THIS IS PRETTY TIGHT OF A, OF A PROFILE.
THEY, THEY SENT US, I WAS HESITANT TO GIVE YOU THIS ONE, BUT SEE THEY, THEY MAKE IT IN ANOTHER PROFILE.
UM, WE JUST NEED A BIGGER WAVE 'CAUSE IT'S SO BIG TO GIVE IT SOME CONTRAST.
I THINK THIS IS GONNA GET LOST TO SO MUCH OF IT.
BUT YES, THAT WOULD BE THE METAL ON THAT.
ON THAT SIDE OF IT, WOULD, THE INTENTION HERE IS YOU PUT A REALLY NICE SIGN THAT HAS SOME HARD MATERIALS TO, IT HAS THE BASE MATERIAL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A STONE BASE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT GIVES US SOME AND A LOT OF, LOT OF, UM, LANDSCAPING.
SO REALLY DRIVE, DRAW YOUR EYE TO THAT.
AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE SIGN, THE LEFT AND YOU'RE AROUND THE, THE BUILDING.
SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S KIND OF THE INTENTION OF HOW WE'RE TRYING TO DO THE WAY FINDING WITH THOSE MATERIALS.
BUT YES, THAT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN THAT LARGE WHITE PANEL IS EXACTLY THAT.
THAT'S UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE SINGLE SKIN MATERIALS.
SHOULD WE GO OVER THE LIST OF THINGS WE'RE SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT OR DO YOU HAVE MORE? I GOT THREE MORE.
OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I'LL GO FASTER.
SO I JUST WANNA SHOW YOU HOW WE TOOK THOSE SAME, THAT SAME LANGUAGE AND APPLIED IT TO THIS IS THE T YES.
YOU ASK A QUESTION THAT, WELL WHERE ARE THE GARAGE DOORS? WELL, THERE THEY ARE.
THE IDEA IS WE CAN BLEND THEM INTO THE COLOR OF THE METAL PANEL.
SO THEY START TO BECOME BACKGROUND.
YOU CAN SEE WE'RE STARTING TO BREAK THAT UP.
THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING HAS THAT, HAS THAT MORE SMOOTH MATERIAL AND IT, IT WILL REPLICATE, HAS A LITTLE BIT OF WOOD LOOK ABOVE THE WINDOWS TRYING TO REPLICATE OR AT LEAST, UH, UH, RELATE BACK TO THE MAIN BUILDING.
YOU CAN SEE IN THE DISTANCE THAT'S THE RENTAL BUILDING.
SO AGAIN, SAME SORT OF LANGUAGE.
YOU CAN AGAIN, TRY TO BREAK DOWN AND SCALE WHEN YOU COME TO THE BUILDINGS FOR, ON THESE RENTAL TS, THEY'RE ONE STORY BUILDINGS THAT YOU'RE GONNA INTERACT WITH THE BACK.
WE WANT THAT TO BE BACKGROUND INFORMATION SO YOU CAN SEE HOW IT KIND OF RISES UP BEYOND AND, AND AGAIN, SAME, SAME APPLICATION.
HOW DO YOU MAKE THE DOORS KIND OF GO AWAY? OH, UH, LOOK AT ME.
UM, SO THERE'S A LOT TO TAKE IN AND WE NEED A LOT OF FEEDBACK BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR TOWN.
THIS IS A REALLY BIG DEVELOPMENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAKES THIS SPACE UNIQUE THOUGH IS IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE SITE, THEY, IT IS SURROUNDED BY TREES RIGHT NOW AND I MEAN HEAVY TREES.
SO IT DOES FEEL LIKE A CAMPUS, THE MAIN BUILDING IS SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES, EXCEPT THAT ONE VIEW POURED IN AND WHERE WE'RE CUTTING THE BRIDGE, BUT IT'S, IT'S HEAVILY TREE NOW.
THEY'VE CLEARED OUT A LOT IN THE MIDDLE.
AND THE SAME WITH TES AND REYNOLD.
THERE'S A REALLY NICE NATURAL BORDER THAT WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S IN FULL BLOOM, IT'S GONNA LOOK.
I MEAN IT'S GONNA FEEL LIKE A REALLY NICE CAMPUS SETTING.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE RIGHT UP AGAINST SOMETHING ELSE THAT, YOU KNOW, IS OF A DIFFERENT NATURE OR VOCABULARY.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT REALLY ALLOWS US TO SORT OF HAVE AN INWARD FEEL OF A, OF A CAMPUS AS YOU'RE DRIVING ON THROUGH THE, AND EXPERIENCE THESE SPACES.
PLEASE LET ME ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
DO YOU WANNA GO DOWN THAT LIST? UM, BEFORE WE, I GUESS ONE QUICK QUESTION FOR DONTA ABOUT THE ORAL.
WHAT, CAN YOU GO OVER THE MATERIALS THAT WAS MADE OUT OF? 'CAUSE I DON'T RECALL EXACTLY WHICH ONE.
JAMIE, DO YOU REMEMBER THE MATERIALS FOR THAT? I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH I OR ELEVATIONS.
THEY, IT WAS A MIXTURE OF A LOT OF THINGS.
UM, AND THEN THEY HAD SOME BRICK GAS PANELS.
THEY ALSO HAD SOME A CM METAL.
WE LOOKED A LOT AT THE FEDEX TECH BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET AS THEY WERE APPROACHING THEIR DESIGN.
SO A LOT OF THOSE, A LOT OF THOSE THINGS WERE PULLED FROM THERE.
FEDEX TECH OR FEDEX, UH, THE TECH CENTER HAS SOME A CM METAL, BUT YOU MIGHT SEE 'EM LIKE A CAR DEALERSHIP OR, UH, SOME HIGH QUALITY METAL THERE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THEY GOT THEIR DESIGN INSPIRATION.
UM, ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO DOWN UNLESS WE HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR THIS GO DOWN THE LIST OF QUESTIONS.
IS THE PROPOSED USE OF METAL AS A PRIMARY BUILDING MATERIAL APPROPRIATE? AND IS IT HIGH QUALITY? WE PUT THIS TOGETHER.
ARCHITECTS HAVE A FEEL ABOUT THE METAL QUALITY.
YEAH, IT DOES APPEAR TO BE, UM, HIGH QUALITY FROM WHAT SAMPLES? UM, THE INSULATED PANELS.
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HIGH QUALITY.AND FOR THE, THE PORTION OF THE, THE PANELS THAT'S ON THE, LIKE THE CUSTOMER ENTRANCE AREA, ARE THERE THOSE, THE ACMS AS WELL OR IT'S RIGHT NOW INSULATE OF HONESTLY, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, SO EVERYONE CALLS IT A LITTLE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
SO CALL LUON, YOU CAN CALL DRY DESIGN.
WE'RE GONNA FIND A PANEL THAT GETS US ABSOLUTELY THE MOST INSULATION VALUE AND STILL GIVES US THAT CLEAN.
UH, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THAT THAT CONCEALED FASTENER LOOK, SO IT DOESN'T LOOK INDUSTRIAL WHEN YOU'RE AT THAT SORT OF, AT THOSE, THOSE ENTRY PIECES.
THE ONE THING THAT IS REALLY NICE ABOUT THE INSULATED METAL PANEL IS YOU DON'T GET THE OIL CANNING THAT YOU SEE ON A LOT OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE MADE OUT OF METAL BECAUSE OF THE FOAM BEING PART OF THE SYSTEM.
LIKE IT, IT DOESN'T DO THE WARPING AND ALL THE MOVEMENT, WHICH IS REALLY NICE.
SO I THINK ON THOSE BIG PIECES, YOU'LL, YOU WON'T SEE ANY DEFORMATION OF, OF, UH, OF THE METAL, WHICH SOMETIMES MAKES THE BUILDING LOOK A LITTLE, IT LOOKS A LITTLE OLDER THAN MAYBE WHAT IT STARTS.
AND YOU, YOU FEEL THOSE WILL HOLD UP FAIRLY WELL.
STRAIGHT LINE WINDS LIKE WHAT WE GET COMING THROUGH HERE WHERE YOU ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU SEE METAL SWAYING IN THE
SO YEAH, SO, SO THE, THE MAIN, AND I'M GONNA PRETEND LIKE I'M THE STRUCTURAL ENGINEER THAT'S WITH ME BACK HERE.
AND HE'LL JUST AGAIN, IF HE'S MAKING FACES, THAT'S JUST HIM.
UM, SO ALL OF THESE HAVE TO GO THROUGH RIGOROUS TESTING.
SO THIS IS A PRE-ENGINEERED METAL BUILDING.
SO THE, IT COMES OF THE KIT OF PARTS THAT BASICALLY SAYS ALL THESE HAVE BEEN TESTED THROUGH CERTAIN, UH, REQUIREMENTS.
AND THOSE HAVE TO BE ACTUALLY CHANGED DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU BUILD THE BUILDING.
SO YOU CAN'T PUT ANYTHING UP WITHOUT IT GOING THROUGH AND BEING APPROVED.
THEY DON'T WANT THE LIABILITY OF THEIR SHEET FLYING AROUND SOMEWHERE.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A REALLY BIG DEAL.
BUT YES, WHEN, WHEN THEY PUT THIS COMPONENT PIECE TOGETHER, THEY PUT THE FRAME AND THEN THEY PUT THE PANEL ON, WELL THEY BASICALLY OWN THAT ENTIRE SYSTEM AND WE GO THROUGH THE CALCULATIONS WITH THEM 'CAUSE WE THEN PUT OUR STAMP AND SEAL THAT SAYS THIS MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS ENVIRONMENT.
IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION THOUGH.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL INSULATION ON THE INSIDE? THERE IS.
SO THE INSULATED METAL PANEL GIVES US, BASICALLY, SO ALL BUILDINGS HAVE TO HAVE A CONTINUOUS BAND OF INSULATION TO THEM.
IT'S JUST PART OF THE ENERGY CODE.
THE INSULATED METAL PANEL JUST PUTS IT IN A SPOT WHERE IT'S, I'LL SAY IT'S A LITTLE MORE EFFECTIVE.
THIS USED TO BE EFIS, THEY JUST PUT METAL ON IT SO IT LASTS LONGER AND WE DON'T GET THE ISSUES THAT EFIS HAD CAUSED OVER ALL THE YEARS.
UM, THIS WILL HAVE THIS, THIS GIVES US BASICALLY ALL OF OUR PROTECTIVE FROM THE, FROM THE ELEMENTS.
BUT INSIDE OF THIS IS AN, IS A COMPLETE INSTALLATION SYSTEM THAT GOES IN THE, ON THE GIRTS OR THE, THE STRUCTURE OF THE SPACE.
SO YEAH, SO WE'LL, WE'LL MEET ALL THE ENERGY CODE.
WE'LL GO INTO A LITTLE FURTHER ON OUR ROOF.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE MOST OF OUR, MOST OF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS ARE.
IT'S, IT IS A, IT'S A DEEPER, THICKER INSULATED METAL PANEL.
SO IT'LL ALL BE ONE COM COMPACT THING, BUT THAT'LL MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE.
UM, THE, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE OF MASONRY THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE? UH, 75% MASONRY HAS A PRIMARY BUILDING MATERIAL.
SO, UM, IT'S BRICK STONE WOOD SIDING, FIBER CEMENT BOARD AND ARTIFICIAL STONE PRODUCTS.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE, UM, ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS THAT HIGH QUALITY ARCHITECTURAL METALS COULD BE APPROPRIATE AS WELL.
BUT 75% IS THE MINIMUM ACQUIRED.
AND I MIGHT WANT TO ADDRESS THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT 'CAUSE WE SAW BRICK BUILDINGS ARE BEAUTIFUL AND THEY ARE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS A CHALLENGE WHEN YOU HAVE A BUILDING THAT HAS THIS MANY OPENINGS AND THIS HIGH MASONRY BECOMES A PROBLEM.
SO YOU ASKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU KEEP THE METAL ON TRYING TO KEEP A PIECE OF MASONRY 30, 40 FEET IN THE AIR FROM MOVING AND FLEXING.
IT'S JUST NOT AS RESILIENT AS THIS.
THE OTHER THING IS WHEN YOU HAVE A, WHEN YOU HAVE AN OPENING OR AS MANY OPENINGS WE HAVE, IT WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF STEEL TO CARRY THE BRICK ANYWHERE ABOVE THE HEAD OF THE GARAGE DOORS AND JUST 'CAUSE OF THE NUMBER.
THAT'S WHY WE THOUGHT, WELL LET'S, LET'S LOOK AT A MATERIAL THAT IS REALLY MADE FOR THIS THAT WOULD BE HEAVY DUTY BUT WOULDN'T CARRY THAT WEIGHT THAT, THAT EXTRA STEEL AND AND STRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED JUST FOR AN AESTHETIC THAT I THINK WE CAN GET FAIRLY CLOSE WITH CHANGING MATERIALS FROM, FROM THAT DISTANCE.
BUT, UM, BUT I, WE, WE LOVE BRICK.
WE DID PUT A, PUT A STONE BASE AROUND, WE'RE TRYING TO USE IT IN ALL THE MONUMENTAL SIGNS.
WE'RE TRYING TO USE IT AS A, AS SORT OF A UNIFYING ELEMENT AROUND ALL OF THE BUILDINGS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE IT AND WE GET TO THE MAINS, WE WILL HAVE THE PILE LASTERS THAT HOLD UP THE, THE COLUMNS.
SO TRY TO INCORPORATE EVERYWHERE YOU CAN SEE IT OR TOUCH IT, BUT MAYBE NOT IN AREAS WHERE IT'S NOT, UH, NOT AS AVAILABLE.
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YOU CONSIDER, UM, TILT UP CONCRETE PANELS INSTEAD? WE DID.IT'S GOT A LITTLE BIT OF THE SAME ISSUE.
SO, UM, TILT UP CONCRETE PANELS ARE AGAIN, FAST, EFFICIENT.
THEY DON'T GIVE YOU SOME OF THE RELIEF THAT YOU MAY WANT.
SOME OF THE TEXTURING, YOU CAN DO A LOT WITH PAINT, YOU CAN DO A LOT WITH.
UM, I, I'LL SAY THE, THE LINER PANEL THAT THEY PUT IN THERE, NOT LINER PANEL, WHAT IS THAT, WHAT IT'S CALLED? YEAH.
REVEAL SAYS SO YOU CAN PUT SOMETHING, A FORM LINER.
SO YOU CAN PUT SOMETHING THERE THAT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE IT'S GOT A LITTLE, THE PROBLEM IS WHEN YOU GET THAT LARGE A SCALE, IT JUST STARTS TO GO AWAY.
AND SO IT'S LIKE LOOKING AT THE GRASS, IT ALL LOOKS LIKE IT'S BEAUTIFUL GRASS UP, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S WEEDS IN THERE.
SO IT'S LIKE WE WE'LL DO A LOT OF EFFORT TO, TO KIND OF PUT A LINE OR A, A PANEL IN IT TO GIVE US THAT FEEL.
BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'D BE PERCEIVED FROM THE DISTANCE AND AT THE SCALE WE'RE AT.
SO THAT'S WHY IT WENT BACK TO A, A PRE INJURED METAL BUILDING FOR, UH, AS A, AS A DIRECTION.
UM, COME BACK TO THAT DISCUSSION.
I GUESS WHAT'S, WHERE'S THE, UM, WHERE'S THE, UM, PRODUCT DISPLAYS? I GUESS THAT MEANS OUTDOOR, UM, EQUIPMENT.
YOU PLAN ON PUTTING THAT OUTDOORS.
THEY, THEY HAVE SOME, I THINK THEY WANNA SHOW OFF THEIR LITTLE YELLOW MACHINERY AND IT, AND IT IS, IT IS REALLY NICE.
SO UNDER THAT, UNDER THAT PORCH, YOU CAN SORT OF SEE YEAH.
AND SHOW WHICH ONE MAYBE THE, YEAH, SO, OH, DO THAT
YEAH, IT'S A, SO THAT, THAT'S GOOD RIGHT HERE.
SO LIKE YOU CAN SEE HERE THEY'RE SHOWING SOME IN THAT COVERED AREA AND WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA PROPOSE A, A SPOT OUT HERE IN THE FRONT AS WELL.
UM, THEY'LL ALL MEET THE, UM, LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THE TOWN'S GOT IN THERE, CUP, UH, YOU KNOW, BEING INSIDE THE SETBACKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
I WOULD SAY KEEP IT AS CLOSE TO THE BUILDING AS POSSIBLE.
UM, YEAH, WE, WE DON'T PLAN ON PUTTING IT LIKE BETWEEN THAT THE LOOP DRIVE AND 85 OUT IN THIS AREA.
UM, I THINK TECHNICALLY WE CAN GET AWAY WITH IT ON THIS SITE 'CAUSE OF THE ROADS ARE LIKE THE, IT'S ABOUT, IT'S GOTTA BE INSIDE THE SOUTH BACKS WHERE YOU CAN BUILD THE BUILDING.
BUT 'CAUSE THIS PROPERTY'S SO BIG, IT'S SUCH A, A NARROW WINDOW AROUND THE OUTSIDE.
LIKE IT'S LIKE WE COULD GET AWAY WAY MORE FROM A, THE CUP PROCESS, BUT THE, THE GOAL IS TO HAVE IT, LIKE YOU SAY, UP CLOSE TO THE BUILDING AND APPROPRIATE INSTEAD OF LIKE LINING EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, OUR GOAL IS NOT TO LINE AT ALL DOWN HERE AND EVERYWHERE.
IT'S REALLY JUST THIS SPOT RIGHT HERE.
IS THE STAFF GOOD WITH THAT OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD DISCUSS ABOUT SOMETHING? IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS IT? I, I ENCOURAGE THAT.
UM, LIKE HOW MANY, I GUESS ARE YOU GOING TO PUT IN YOUR COVENANTS IF YOU HAVE COVENANTS, HOW MANY AND WHERE EXACTLY IT GOES AND HOW ARE YOU GONNA, HOW MANY, HOW MANY COOL TRACTORS ARE YOU GONNA PUT OUT THERE AND STUFF? 2, 3, 3.
UH, WE'D PROBABLY PUT ONE OR TWO OUT IN FRONT TO THE, THE GOAL WOULD BE JUST THAT AREA IN THE FRONT AND IT'LL BE DELINEATED ON THE SITE PLAN OF LIKE, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT.
WE HAVE TO SAY THAT THIS AREA HERE, WHEN WE GO THROUGH THAT SITE PLAN PROCESS WILL HAVE THE, UH, EQUIPMENT DISPLAY AREA.
I CAN'T REMEMBER, IS THIS GONNA FALL INTO THE CUSTOMARY DISPLAY OR THE ANCILLARY DISPLAY? THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT LINE ITEMS. I WOULD SAY CUSTOMARY.
THIS IS CUSTOMARY, BUT, SO WE'LL HAVE IT JUST SHOWN AS LIKE THAT BLOCK OUT FRONT.
THAT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, THE APPROPRIATE TIES TO, TO SHOW THAT EQUIPMENT, WHICH IT'LL BE A LOT MORE NARROW THAN EVEN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT IF WE STUCK IT ALL OUT THERE.
BUT IT'LL BE THE CUSTOMARY, UH, DISPLAY SHOWN.
AND WE WILL DO IT PROBABLY IN THIS AREA IN CONCRETE.
UM, THEIR EQUIPMENT, UH, DOESN'T DO WELL ON ASPHALT OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE OR PAVERS JUST DUE TO THE WEIGHT OF IT.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO IT IN CONCRETE AND THEY'VE GOT SOME WAYS TO DO IT.
AND BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF THEIR EQUIPMENT, WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE TO PROVIDE A WAY FOR IT TO GET BACK AND FORTH WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, TAKING THE GRASS OFF AND UM, CAUSING ISSUES RELATED TO THAT.
BUT THIS IS THE ONLY BUILDING I THINK THAT, THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON HAVING ANY OF THE DISPLAY CORRECT? NO.
THE OTHER BUILDINGS, THEY DON'T, THE RENTAL AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY WON'T HAVE ANY DISPLAYS OUT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDINGS.
I PERSONALLY DO NOT WANT TO SEE THAT, BUT
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I'M JUST ONE VOTE.SO I FEEL LIKE EQUIPMENT, YOU WANT TO SEE THAT
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
UH, UH, NOT ONLY QUESTION WILL BE ON THE MASONRY ISSUE, WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND WE'LL HAVE TO KIND OF TALK WITH STAFF ABOUT THAT.
HOW MUCH IS ALLOWABLE, HOW MUCH IS NEEDED.
I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT IT SEEMS THAT YOU'VE TRIED TO VARY SOME OF THE MATERIALS, VARY SOME OF THE LINEAR APPLICATIONS OF THIS.
UM, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY, OBVIOUSLY YOU COULD PUT MORE MONEY INTO THE, UH, MAIN BUILDING THERE AS FAR AS MASONRY AND THAT KIND OF THING THAN MAYBE SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, SHOP AREA.
THAT LONG WING THAT'S TO THE EAST, YOU KNOW, UM, HERE, I MEAN TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S AN AWFUL LARGE EXPANSION OF A LIGHTER MATERIAL.
THEY'RE NOT DOORS, RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT, BUT THEY HAVE THAT APPEARANCE.
I WAS GONNA SAY THAT TOO, VISUALLY.
YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE A, BUT, BUT I DO THINK YOU DID A, A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, BETTER JOB ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, WHERE THE BRIDGE IS RIGHT HERE MM-HMM
BECAUSE THERE'S SOME VARIABILITY IN THAT AND IT'S NOT, DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? THAT MAKES SENSE.
AND THERE'S SOME LITTLE COLOR, UH, JUST COLOR AREAS.
SO IN, IN THOSE AREAS THAT YOU CIRCLED, I KNOW, UH, THE CONCEPT OF, I MEAN YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE IN DEALING WITH LARGE SPACES OF ANY KIND, WHETHER IT LANDSCAPE OR WHATEVER, ESPECIALLY ON AN AREA WHERE YOU, YOU HAVE A EXPRESSWAY, THE VISUAL IMPACT IS, YOU KNOW, PRETTY, YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE IT DI DIFFERENTIATED A LITTLE BIT.
OTHERWISE JUST FROM LOOKING AT IT LOOKS LIKE ONE SOLID AREA, I KIND OF LIKE THE OTHER SIDE BETTER THAN THE SIDE FOR 3 85.
THAT'S JUST VISUALLY AND THAT'S NOT TAKING IT INTO ACCOUNT.
WHAT KIND OF MATERIALS? I KNOW VISUALLY IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S DIFFERENT TEXTURES IN THIS, MAYBE DIFFERENT SIZES OF THE PANELS, I DON'T KNOW, BUT, BUT IT'S HARD TO TELL ON GRAPHICS.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO ALL KINDS OF COOL STUFF WITH GRAPHICS.
WE USED TO CALL THAT GRAPHIC LIES IN SCHOOL, BUT, UM, BUT, AND I KNOW THAT COLORATION IS, IS VERY DIFFERENT TOO, BUT, UM, I WAS JUST, MY ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE HOW MUCH, UM, MASONRY IS APPROPRIATE FOR A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
I THINK YOU CAN GET SOME VARIABILITY AND IF YOU KIND OF MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE VARIED ON THIS SIDE, I DO LIKE THE WAY YOU DID THE GARAGE DOORS ON THE OTHER SIDE, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT PANEL COMING ACROSS IT, THE TOP, IT DOESN'T AND THAT THERE'S A, THERE'S AN EXTENSION.
IT DOESN'T READ VISUALLY SOME AS MUCH AS A DOOR TO ME.
I THINK, I THINK CII KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING WITH THE, THE LINES AND THE DIFFERENT MATERIALS AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT DOES LOOK LIKE GARAGE DOORS OVER THERE.
UM, ON THE EAST SIDE IS, AND, AND I WAS ACTUALLY WONDERING, I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, THOSE IS THE, BEFORE I ASKED.
THOSE ARE WHY ARE THE TR BUSHES IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE DOORS, YOU KNOW? BUT, UM, AND THEN I, MY, UM, MAIN COMMENT ON C IT'S A LOT OF WHITE, A LOT OF LIGHTER COLOR RIGHT THERE.
I DO LIKE, UM, I DO LIKE THE DARKER, I MEAN, WE CERTAINLY WANNA HAVE A CONTRAST FOR SURE, BUT THERE ON C THERE'S A LOT, LIKE YOU SAID, A LOT OF THE LIGHTER COLOR THAT MAKES IT SEEM MORE WAREHOUSY.
I THINK THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT.
AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
I'M, I'M NOT GONNA STAND HERE AND TELL YOU THAT, THAT THESE ARE THE EXACT MATERIALS BECAUSE WE WILL COME BACK AND SHOW YOU THOSE.
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, THE RENDERINGS, WE'RE TRYING TO VISION THIS, BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING AND YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT.
IT'S WHAT THE TONES, HOW DOES IT FEEL? BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT UNDERSTOOD.
AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ME, THE DARKER FEELS LIKE IT'S NOT SO BIG.
WELL, I WEAR DARK, I WEAR DARK SHIRTS FOR A REASON.
UM, BUT, BUT SOMETIMES THAT DOES, IT GIVES YOU THAT, THAT CONTRAST LETS IT BLEND IN A LITTLE BIT THAN HAVING SOMETHING THAT'S REFLECTING SO MUCH OF THE IMAGE AT YOU.
THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY, VERY GOOD POINT.
UM, BUT IT STILL NEEDS TO BE BROKEN UP SOMEHOW.
I ALMOST FEEL IF WE, THERE'S A COMBINATION OF PUTTING A LITTLE BIT OF THE BOTTOM ONTO B YOU GET THAT, THAT DARK SORT OF BASE, BUT THEN WE COULD BREAK IT UP SO WE DON'T GET LARGE EXPANSES HORIZONTALLY.
MAYBE THAT WOULD GIVE US THAT, THAT RHYTHM THAT WE NEED, BUT NOT MAKE IT SO CLOSE TO THE, THE PROPORTIONS OF THE GARAGE DOORS.
WHAT ARE THEY, ARE THEY GARAGE STORES OR NOT? WE
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DON'T WANT GARAGE DOORS.IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE SOMETHING WE WANT TO WALK TOWARDS.
IS GRAVEL APPROPRIATE PARKING SURFACE? WHERE'S GRAVEL? I CAN SHOW Y'ALL MY FRIEND JOHN.
TELL ME THE, UH, THE GRAVEL, UH, AREAS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
IT'S NOT SHOWN UP WELL ON THESE.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE, UH, THIS IS THE RENTAL BUILDING, THE ONE NORTHWEST CORNER THAT WE'VE GOT SOME AREA IN THE BACK FOR CERTAIN TYPES OF EQUIPMENT TO BE ON GRAVEL, SOME OF THE EQUIPMENT IT'S BEST TO BE UNLOADED AND LOADED ON THE GRAVEL INSTEAD OF ON CONCRETE OR ASPHALT.
AND THE, ON THE MAIN BUILDING WE HAD DELINEATED WHERE THAT'S GONNA BE.
YET THIS, THE OVERALL SITE DESIGN VIDEO WOULD BE A, A, A SMALL WING OVER ON THE WEST SIDE AND UH, POTENTIALLY ON THE TES BUILDING.
THEN THIS IS THE SAME SLIDE, CHUCK.
SO I WENT ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
HAVE TO GET JAMIE TO TRAIN Y'ALL BETTER THEN Y'ALL CAN TRAIN ME BETTER
BUT OVERALL GOAL FOR THE HAVING THE GRAVEL AREA WOULD BE A SMALL AREA THAT'S NOT VISIBLE AT ALL FROM ANY ROADWAY THAT'S ONLY USED FOR THE EQUIPMENT.
THAT JUST NEEDS TO BE LOADED, UNLOADED ON, ON GRAVEL AND NOT ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING.
WE'RE JUST
ALRIGHT, I THINK WE'RE BACK IN OUR PRESENTATION.
ALRIGHT, SO, UH, LIKE THAT AREA WOULD BE, YOU SEE THE LIGHT COLOR BACK THERE IN THIS AREA HERE.
AND POTENTIALLY SOME OF THIS AREA OVER HERE WOULD BE WHAT WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE ON THE GRAVEL.
HOW IS THAT CONTAINED? HOW SO IT'LL HAVE, UH, APPROPRIATE MEASURES WHETHER IT'S, YOU KNOW, LIKE CONCRETE CURVING OR, UH, STRIPS OF METAL OR, WE HAVEN'T DESIGNED ANY OF THAT YET, BUT UH, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, GRAVEL EROSION RUNOFF.
AND THE MACHINERY WILL BE SITTING ON TOP OF THAT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
AND IS THAT CUSTOMER ACCESS OR WILL IT ALL BACK THE GATE? OH NO, NONE OF THE GRAVEL AREA WOULD BE STORAGE.
SO JUST STORAGE, LIKE A STORAGE.
SO LIKE EVEN ON THE MAIN BUILDING, THE ONLY THING THAT'S CUSTOMER ACCESS IS JUST THIS FRONT WING HERE, WHICH YOU ACCESS BY COMING ACROSS THE, THE BRIDGE AND COMING IN THIS WAY.
UM, THE, THE, THERE'S GATES AND FENCES, UM, ON THE TS BUILDING HERE, THAT WILL BE ONLY FOR EMPLOYEES AND THE SAME ON THE RENTAL BUILDING.
AND THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE BACK ON THE GRAVEL WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE TRUCKS AND THE TRAILERS LOADING AND UNLOADING THE EQUIPMENT.
UM, THE TYP TYPICAL CUSTOMER PULLS IN AND PARKS IN THE PARKING LOT IN THE FRONT AND GOES INSIDE, UH, WORKS OUT WHATEVER YOU WORK OUT WHEN YOU IN A BULLDOZER.
UM, SO A QUESTION FOR STAFF WOULD BE, HAVE YOU EVER HAD THAT BEFORE IN THIS ZONING? DID YOU EVER APPROVE IT OR DENY IT? UH, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, I CAN'T REMEMBER ANY SITES HAVING GRAVEL.
UM, I KNOW OUR MAIN CONCERN ABOUT GRAVEL IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IT KICKS UP DUST AND IT CAN MAKE A SITE APPEAR UNCLEAN AND YOU KNOW, YOU GET YOUR CARS GET DIRTY.
UM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE WAS AN ORDINANCE PASSED A COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT MAYBE PROHIBITED GRAVEL UP TO A CERTAIN EXTENT.
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KNOW IF JAMIE WANTS TO ELABORATE ON THAT ORDINANCE ABOUT GRAVEL DRIVEWAYS.I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT RELATES TO THIS CASE.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF INDUSTRIAL WAS AN EXCEPTION OR NOT.
UH, GRAVEL IS ALLOWED, UM, IN GENERAL INDUSTRIAL, UM, IN CERTAIN CERTAIN CON CONTEXTS.
THIS IS RESTRICTED INDUSTRIAL.
UH, SO TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS, THEY WOULD, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT VARIOUS OPTIONS WITH THEM.
A A A VARIANCE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE THE RIGHT PATH 'CAUSE WE'D HAVE TO PROVE A HARDSHIP AND TO SELF-IMPOSED HARDSHIP.
SO THEY MAY ASK FOR A CODE AMENDMENT TO ALLOW FOR GRAVEL, JUST FOR A USE LIKE THIS IN RESTRICTED INDUSTRIAL.
BUT RESTRICTED INDUSTRIAL IS OUR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AREA.
WE DO TRY TO PROTECT IT MORE, MORE SO THAN THE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL.
UH, WE DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF LIGHT, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL GEN RESTRICTED INDUSTRIAL, BUT YOU MIGHT SEE IT ALONG PROGRESS ROAD LIKE WHERE CCO LABEL IS KIM STATION, THAT AREA WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO, TO HAVE A, A NICER APPEARANCE ALONG THE MAJOR, MAJOR ROADWAYS.
UM, SO IF, IF WE WERE TO ALLOW IT, IT WOULD NEED TO BE ON A PRETTY LIMITED BASIS AND NOT REALLY VISIBLE AND NOT, NOT NEAR RESIDENTIAL.
SO WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING DRC DECIDES OR THE ZONING BOARD? THE MAYOR AND BOARD WOULD DECIDE ULTIMATELY I SEE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, BUT I'M SURE THEY WOULD WELCOME ANY THOUGHTS FROM THE THE DRC.
IT DOES CHANGE THE LOOK THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN I KNOW FROM THIS IS ALL WE HAVE TO GO BY OBVIOUSLY, BUT, UM, AND, AND OVER THERE IN THE CORNER MAY NOT, MAY NOT BE VISIBLE, YOU KNOW, TO THE MASSES, BUT, YOU KNOW, GRAVEL DOES CHANGE THE LOOK OF A PROPERTY.
SO I KNOW AS FAR AS GRAVEL GOES, I MEAN IN MY EXPERIENCE WITH HEAVY EQUIPMENT, I JUST RECENTLY HAD A BOBCAT THAT BLEW A HYDRAULIC CYLINDER AND THE STUFF WAS ALL OVER EVERYWHERE.
AND SO THAT, THAT, I WAS WONDERING IF THAT'S KIND OF AN IMPACT.
WHAT KIND OF IMPACT COULD THAT POTENTIALLY ADD? THE FACT THAT YOU'RE SO CLOSE TO THE CREEK WITH THE EPA AND YOU KNOW, YOU GET EPA PEOPLE TO SHOW UP, YOU KNOW, AND STUFF.
THEY JUST SHOWED UP AND THERE WAS SOME FORM OF LEAKAGE FROM AN OLD, LIKE AN OLD BULLDOZER OR SOMETHING, OR A HYDRAULIC SYSTEM OR HYDRAULIC TANK OF SOME KIND.
I MEAN, IS THAT A, A POTENTIAL PROBLEM? I'LL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON THAT.
UH, I KNOW THAT T DECK DOES REGULATE PROXIMITY TO CREEKS.
SO WE HAVE ONIC CREEK THERE AND TRIBUTARIES OF THAT.
SO THERE WILL BE BUFFERS AND REQUIREMENTS THERE, BUT I HAVE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT AS TO WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCE IS.
UH, NUMBER ONE GOAL IS THAT ALL THE EQUIPMENT THAT'LL BE HERE WILL BE FIXED.
AND THIS ISN'T THE, THE JOB SITE WHERE HYDRAULIC HOSES DO BLOW SOMETIMES, BUT THIS IS WHERE THEY TAKE IT TO GO GET IT FIXED, UM, FROM THE, THE T DECK, UH, SLASH EPA AND STREAM BUFFERS.
SO WE ARE PROVIDING EXCESSIVE STREAM BUFFERS THAT ARE REQUIRED DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, BUT THAT'LL STAY IN PLACE EVEN AFTER CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OF T DAC, BUT OBVIOUSLY 'CAUSE OF THE NATURE OF THE CREEK WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ADJACENT TO THE CREEK.
AND THE WAY THE STORM WATER RUNS OFF, THERE'S, IT WOULD TAKE A, A VERY EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF HYDRAULIC FLUID TO EVER ACTUALLY CAUSE AN ISSUE WITH EPA OR T DECK.
BUT WITH OUR EXPERIENCE ON ALL OF THESE KIND OF SITES, EVEN LIKE WHEN WE DID A FAUCET PAVING, UH, RIGHT CONSTRUCTION TO THE NORTH OF THEM, UM, LIKE THOSE SITES ALL HAVE THOSE KIND OF SAME EXPERIENCES AND, AND TECHNICALLY IT'S PROBABLY ACTUALLY NO DIFFERENT THAN WHEN IT RUNS OFF ON CONCRETE.
THE, THE ONE THING YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAVE HYDRAULIC FLUID RUN OFF ON ASPHALT BECAUSE THEY DON'T GO WELL TOGETHER AND YOU END UP HAVING ALL YOUR PAVING, UH, DETERIORATE.
UM, SO WHICH IS WHY ON THIS SITE WILL EITHER HAVE A, LIKE A SOLID GRADED, UH, C SIX 10 GRAVEL OR CONCRETE ANYWAY THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, HAVE EQUIPMENT.
'CAUSE IF YOU HAVE A HYDRAULIC HOSE ISSUE ON ASPHALT, THAT'S WHEN YOU START HAVING THE, THE REAL ISSUES WITH IT.
BUT THE WAY THE SIDE WILL BE GRADED AND THE, THE, THE GRAVEL STONE ARROW WILL BE GRADED AS WELL.
IT WILL NOT BE DIRECTED STRAIGHT TOWARDS THE CREEK.
UM, THERE'LL DEFINITELY BE, UH, APPROPRIATE FILTRATION.
UH, SITES LIKE THIS ALSO HAVE, UH, WILL HAVE UH, FUEL TANK FARMS AND FUELING THINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'LL DEFINITELY BE, UH, ALL THE PERMITTING THROUGH ALL BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE STATE WILL UH, GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT PROCESS.
UM, UH, A FEW OF THE THINGS I'VE HEARD FROM TONIGHT, UH, ONE OF 'EM IS OBVIOUSLY WE'RE BRINGING Y'ALL SOME METAL SAMPLES AND SHOWING YOU RENDERINGS.
UH, WE DO THINK THAT THE BIGGEST, UM,
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DECISION THAT WILL BE MADE IN THE FUTURE IN THIS PROCESS.AND, UH, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO GET Y'ALL SOME INFORMATION.
UH, WE'RE GONNA WORK ON GETTING Y'ALL SOME DIFFERENT BUILDINGS THAT MAY BE IN THE MID-SOUTH.
IF YOU WANNA GO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL LARGE SCALE OF SOME OF THESE METALS IS WHAT'S THE DECISION, HOW'S THE DECISION MADE ON WHAT IS THE HIGH QUALITY METAL THAT'S LISTED IN THE DESIRED GUIDELINES THAT SEPARATES US FROM HAVING TO HAVE 75% PURE MASONRY? WE HAVE TO HAVE IT AS A HIGH QUALITY METAL.
AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO SEND DOCUMENTS OVER AND, AND LET Y'ALL LOOK AT 'EM AND GET Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK AND THE STAFF'S FEEDBACK ON WHAT'S A HIGH QUALITY METAL.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT IS, UM, DESCRIBED IN DETAIL IN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.
I KNOW THAT THERE'S THINGS LIKE, UH, THE A CM PANELS THAT HAVE BEEN USED ON SOME OF THE CAR DEALERSHIPS, THE METAL THAT WAS USED ON FAUCETS BUILDING THAT HAVE QUALIFIED AS THAT.
UM, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT MATERIAL WAS USED ON THE ORACLE BUILDING.
WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA GO LOOK AT THAT MORE, UM, KNOWING THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED THROUGH THE TOWN.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO GET FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL.
WE KNOW WE'RE NOT GONNA GET IT TONIGHT ON THINGS LIKE THE HIGH QUALITY METAL.
UM, I THINK THE ADVICE ABOUT LIKE SOME OF THE, UH, THE MASSING ON THE BUILDING AND SOME OF THE LOOKS IS DEFINITELY HELPFUL.
BUT, UM, IF WHATEVER ELSE Y'ALL GOT MORE, UM, WE DO HAVE OUR LANDSCAPE ARCHITECT HERE.
UM, CHET WINSTEAD WITH A TWO HI DON'T THINK THERE'S A AS MUCH TO TALK ABOUT NOW.
HE, HE HADN'T DONE A LOT OF LANDSCAPE DESIGN OBVIOUSLY.
UM, HE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING AND HE'S GOING TO PROVIDE LANDSCAPING IN THE APPROPRIATE PLACES.
LIKE SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE EXPECT TO, TO HAVE WELL LANDSCAPE WOULD BE LIKE WHERE WE'VE GOT THAT ENTRY MONUMENT WHEN YOU COME IN FROM WINCHESTER AND CROSS THE BRIDGE, HAVING THE APPROPRIATE LANDSCAPING THERE TO HELP BREAK UP THE BUILDING.
OBVIOUSLY IT WON'T ALL BE, UH, THE APPROPRIATE SIZE THE DAY WE PLAN IT, BUT THE GOAL IS THAT IT'LL HEAD THERE.
UM, AND CERTAINLY IT'LL BE, UH, MATURE BY THE TIME WINCHESTER GETS CONNECTED IN SEVERAL YEARS IN THE FUTURE BEFORE WE'VE GOT MORE TRAFFIC COMING THROUGH THIS INDUSTRIAL AREA.
BUT ANYTHING ELSE Y'ALL WANNA GIVE FEEDBACK WOULD BE GREAT.
MAYBE SHOW THE SITE, UM, BECAUSE I KNOW GOOGLE IT'S WINTER.
MAYBE SHOW THE SITE IN THE SUMMER.
YEAH, IT JUST KINDA HELPS TO SEE 3 85, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE SEEING IN SPRING.
THE, UM, THE, THE TREES ON THAT WEST SIDE.
I THINK I, I ENCOURAGE Y'ALL TO ACTUALLY, I'M SURE Y'ALL ALL DRIVE DOWN 3 85 AS YOU CROSS OVER SYCAMORE EASTBOUND ON 3 85.
LOOK OVER TO THE SITE AND SEE THE TREES THAT WE'VE LEFT.
'CAUSE THAT'S GONNA BE OUR YARD SIDE.
THAT THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW ARE STAYING.
UM, THE ONLY TREES THAT, I MEAN THERE MAY BE SOME TREES THAT ONCE THE SITE WAS CLEARED, SOMETIMES THE, THE SMALL TREES DON'T END UP MAKING IT.
BUT WE'LL ALSO BE PLANTING SUPPLEMENTAL.
I MEAN, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE STREET TREES AND MEETING ALL Y'ALL'S GUIDELINES AND MEETING OUR OH, LOOK AT YOU NUMBER OF TREES PER ACRE.
SO, UM, THEY'LL DEFINITELY BE THE, THE ASPECTS OF THE TREES THAT ARE OUT THERE.
BUT, UH, I THINK MOST OF Y'ALL KNOW HOW TO GET AHOLD OF US THROUGH THE STAFF, EITHER DIRECTLY.
ANY, ANY THOUGHTS Y'ALL HAVE THAT Y'ALL WANT TO REACH OUT? UM, WE WANT TO HEAR Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK IN THE, FROM A OVERALL SCHEDULE PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THE NEXT TWO MONTHS WE'LL BE SUBMITTING THE TES AND THE RENTAL BUILDING.
THOSE ARE THE TWO SMALL NORTHERN ONES.
WE'VE STILL GOT A LOT OF DESIGN ASPECTS TO WORK ON ON THE MAIN BUILDING.
AND THEN THAT'LL COME IN SOMETIME THIS FALL.
AND THEN THE TRAINING BUILDING WILL BE THE LAST BUILDING THAT, THAT WE BRING IN AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS ON.
BUT AS, AS Y'ALL HAVE IDEAS OR THOUGHTS, UM, JUST LET US KNOW.
WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FEEDBACK.
I'M SURE Y'ALL GOT A FEW MORE THINGS TO TELL US TODAY, BUT I THINK MATERIAL CALLOUTS AND MAYBE PERCENTAGES WOULD BE GOOD.
AND FENCE HEIGHT AND THE MATERIALS ON THAT.
I, I DO THINK ALL OF OUR FENCES WE'RE GONNA PROPOSE ON THIS SITE ARE GONNA BE THE EIGHT FOOT INDUSTRIAL FENCES.
UH, UH, A SIX FOOT FENCE ADJACENT TO ANY OF THESE BUILDINGS WOULD NOT DO VERY MUCH.
IF YOU HAD A HUNDRED PERCENT METAL HIGH QUALITY, THAT WOULD BE APPROVED ALLOWED, IS THAT WHAT HE'S SAYING? IF THE DRC AGREES WITH IT, UM, 'CAUSE IT'S ONLY A CAN BE APPROVED ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS BY THE DRC.
DO YOU WANT US TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF THESE OR WE JUST WANT TO, I THINK WE HAVE THE TREES HANDLE.
WILL EXISTING TREES BE PRESERVED? I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT MM-HMM
UM, ROLL UP DOORS AND SERVICE BAY BE SCREENED.
SCREENED MEANING THE FENCE SCREENED WITH LIKE LANDSCAPE INFANTS IN, UH, ASKING.
I THINK THERE WAS ON THE TES YOU COULD ADD SOME TREES, UM, FROM THE WINCHESTER VIEW.
WE HAVE DESIGN LANDSCAPE LANDSCAPING YET.
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PACKAGE, IT WASN'T THE PART WE WERE MOST CONCERNED ABOUT.IS THE, THE METAL PANELS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE AND THEN WILL ALL STORAGE BE INDOORS? I THINK YOU ANSWERED THAT.
NO, I GUESS IS IT'S GONNA BE IN THE BACK, CORRECT? SORRY.
THE, UM, THE, THE MAIN STORAGE, UM, IT'S REALLY NOT WHAT WE WOULD CALL TYPICAL OUTDOOR STORAGE.
I MEAN, WE WILL HAVE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT IN DIFFERENT PLACES ON THE SITE, UH, MAINLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE MAIN BUILDING.
AND, UM, ON THE RENTAL BUILDING IT'LL BE ON THE WEST SIDE.
SO LIKE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE RENTAL BUILDING AND THE WEST SIDE OF THE MAIN BUILDING, UM, THEY WON'T HAVE STORAGE OUT HERE IN FRONT OF THE DOORS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THEY'LL BE BRINGING EQUIPMENT IN AND OUT.
UM, THE ENERGY BUILDING, THE TS BUILDING WILL BASICALLY HAVE THE, THE, THEY'RE LOOK SIMILAR TO A, JUST A REGULAR TRACTOR TRAILER, BUT IT'S THE, THE LARGE GENERATORS.
THEY'VE GOT METAL PANELS ON THE OUTSIDE.
IT'S JUST NOT EQUIPMENT THERE, BUT LIKE THEY'VE GOT SMALL SIZE THAT LOOK LIKE A SINGLE AXLE ENCLOSED TRAILER ALL THE WAY UP TO THE 18 WHEELER.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE GOT THE, SOME OF THE LINES SHOWN ON.
YEAH, SO LIKE ON THE, THE ENERGY BUILDING, LIKE YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'VE GOT THE, THE SMALL TRAILER PARKING AREA SHOWN.
THAT WOULD BE WHERE THE SMALLER TRAILERS ARE.
THEN WE WOULD PUT SOME OF THE LARGER TRAILERS FARTHER AWAY SO THAT THE FENCE ACTUALLY HAD THE PERSPECTIVE TO SCALE, UH, TO SCREEN THE TRAILERS.
AND SOME OF THE OTHER ONES MAY BE IN THE BACK HERE.
QUESTION THE STORAGE, IS THAT GOING TO BE THE BROKEN DOWN PIECES? SO THE, THE BROKEN DOWN PIECES ARE TYPICALLY NOT STORED ON SITE.
THEY'RE BROUGHT ONTO THE SITE AND THEN THEY'RE REPAIRED AND THEN THEY LEAVE.
UM, THEY SO THE PIECES SITTING OUT, THEY'LL LOOK YES.
THEY'RE, THEY, THEY WILL NOT HAVE A JUNKYARD OF EQUIPMENT.
THEY, THEY ARE NOT IN THE JUNKYARD BUSINESS OF, OF THE HEAVY EQUIPMENT WORLD.
THE, THIS IS THE, THE HIGHEST END OF IT.
IT'S NOT THE THE SALVAGE REPAIR SMALL.
NO, THESE ARE MILLION DOLLAR PIECES OF EQUIPMENT.
IT'S, IT, IT'LL BE, UH, A LOT OF PROPERTY, UH, EXPENSE CAPITAL ON SITE.
IS THERE ANY DETENTION BASINS OUT HERE OR? YES, WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME DETENTION.
UM, TYPICALLY IN THE TOWN OF CARVILLE, THE, THE WAY THE, THE ZONING AND ORDINANCES ARE WRITTEN, WE DON'T DETAIN ON THE LOWER 25% OF A DRAINAGE BASIN.
'CAUSE THE GOAL IS TO ACTUALLY GET THE WATER OUT BEFORE ALL THE OTHER WATER.
BUT BECAUSE OF THE SCALE AND THE MASS OF THIS SITE AND THE IMPERVIOUS AREA, WE WILL HAVE SOME DETENTION AREAS.
UM, WE'VE WORKED SOME WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE AIMING TO DO ABOUT HALF OF WHAT WE WOULD NORMALLY DO IF THIS WAS AN UPSTREAM.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOTTEN ON CONCRETE RIGHT NEXT TO US.
THE GOAL IS TO GET THE WATER OUT.
OUR MAIN GOAL IS WE NEED TO MANAGE THE VELOCITIES AND THE SCOUR OF THE WATER.
WE OBVIOUSLY DO NOT WANT ANY ISSUES.
SO, WE'LL, WE WILL HAVE DETENTION ON ALL OF THE SITES.
THE TRAINING BUILDING'S THE ONLY ONE THAT PROBABLY WON'T HAVE ANY SUBSTANTIAL DETENTION ON IT, BUT WE'VE GOT DETENTION.
UM, SO SOME OF THESE SITES, LIKE ON THE RENTAL, LIKE OUR MAIN DETENTION'S GONNA BE HERE, THERE'S A, A SMALL STRING ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF THAT SITE THAT IT'LL DRAIN INTO.
WE'LL HAVE SOME, UM, TYPICAL, UM, UH, DRY DETENTION PONDS ON THE FRONT OF THE TES BUILDING.
AND WE'VE GOT A LARGE BASIN PLANNED RIGHT HERE AND POTENTIALLY ONE OVER HERE AS WELL ON THE MAIN BUILDING.
JUST A MATTER OF CURIOSITY, HAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE CREEK ITSELF? I MEAN, IS THERE A OBSTRUCTION PROBLEM? SOMETIMES THE CREEKS AROUND HERE GET PRETTY BAD.
THIS CREEK IS AS CLEAN, UH, AND AS U-SHAPED, UM, AS CAN BE.
WE'VE WALKED DOWN SEVERAL SECTIONS OF IT.
UM, THROUGH OUR SUBDIVISION INFRASTRUCTURE PACKAGE, WE HAD TO HAVE ONE PIPE TIE INTO IT AND SOME OTHER AREAS.
THERE'S SOME, SOME EXISTING WASH AREAS THAT GO INTO IT THAT WE'RE CLEANING UP AND DIRECTING OUR WATER INTO IT.
UM, KIN CREEK HAS BEEN A LOT BETTER SINCE THEY BUILT 3 85 WHEN THEY DUG THE BIG BORROW PIT BEHIND THE BUMPERS.
HARLEY DAVIDSON AND THE OTHER ONE CLOSE TO 72, THE BAR PIT WERE ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO THE CREEK AND THEY ACTUALLY PROVIDE A, A GREAT LEVEL OF DETENTION AS THE CREEK COMES IN.
IT ACTUALLY SPILLS INTO THAT AREA, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE NOT HAD ANY FLOODING IN THE LAST 20 YEARS.
YOU, YOU, YOU'RE QUITE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
WHERE WE AT? ONE MORE QUESTION.
WITH THE 3 85 AND OUT OF THE BUILDINGS, WHAT IS THAT SITE LINE AND DIFFERENCE IN GRADE? IS IT KIND OF, SO THE, THE EAST SIDE, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.
THE, THE ROAD IS PROBABLY THREE FEET OR FOUR FEET HIGHER THAN OUR SITE ON THE WEST SIDE WHERE THE BRIDGE COMES OVER.
UM, BUT THAT'S THE AREA THAT WE DO HAVE ALL THE EXISTING TREES PROTECTED THAT'LL GIVE US THE BEST SCREENING, WHICH IS PART OF THE REASON WE'VE GOT THE, THE SHOP SIDE OVER ON THE, THE SIDE THAT'S PROTECTED FROM THE VIEW, UM, BETTER WITH ALL THE TREES.
ALRIGHT, WELL, UM, DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH INFO? DO DOES STAFF HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION OR
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DO YOU WANT US TO COMMIT TO ANYTHING? I FEEL LIKE STAFF DOES HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION AT THIS POINT.BECAUSE I, I FEEL LIKE THE METAL IS, THE METAL AND THE GRAVEL ARE THE THINGS THAT WE'RE, WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A, A STRONG ANSWER ON.
AND OF COURSE LANDSCAPING, BUT THAT'S NOT BEEN DRAWN YET.
UM, JOHN, DO YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT, WE DID EXPECT TO GET THE SOLID ANSWER ON THE METAL.
UM, THE, THE MASSING AND THE SCALE WAS THE, THE BIGGEST THING.
I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL ON THAT, ON THE METAL.
UM, RICK'S GOING TO, UH, GET Y'ALL SOME MORE DATA, SOME MORE SAMPLES, AND WE'RE GONNA LOOK AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY BUILDINGS WITH SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT MATERIALS TO LOOK AT.
UM, AND TRY TO CONTINUE TO, TO GET SOME FEEDBACK.
UM, WE'LL TRY TO ROUTE AS MUCH EVERYTHING THROUGH DON QUATA AND LET HER GET FEEDBACK FROM Y'ALL AND ROUTE IT BACK TO US.
UNLESS Y'ALL GOT SOMETHING Y'ALL WANNA PERSONALLY REACH OUT.
UM, THE, UM, SOME OF THE ASPECTS ARE JUST THE NATURE OF AN INDUSTRIAL SITE AND, AND DEALING WITH THE WAY THE DESIGN GUIDELINES ARE WRITTEN.
I MEAN, THERE'S, UH, TIDBITS IN THERE ABOUT REMOTE WALLS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT MAKE IT EASIER FOR Y'ALL.
THE NOT HAVING THE SOLID DEFINITIONS ON LIKE WHAT EXACTLY IS A HIGH QUALITY METAL.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE LEANING ON Y'ALL'S DECISION TO, TO MAKE SURE IT LOOKS GOOD.
I CAN PROMISE Y'ALL THOMPSON WANTS IT TO LOOK GOOD.
THEY DIDN'T CHOOSE TO BUILD THIS IN CARVILLE.
THEY COULD'VE DONE LIKE MOST OF THE INDUSTRIAL FOLKS AND HAVE GONE DOWN TO MARSHALL COUNTY WHERE THERE'S NO RULES.
THEY, THEY WANTED TO BE IN A GOOD SPOT AND HAVE A QUALITY OPERATION.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU, YOU CAN'T BUILD ALL THIS WITHOUT STILL PAYING ATTENTION TO THE BUDGET.
I KNOW THAT'S NOT Y'ALL'S JOB TO, TO, TO HELP US FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THE BUDGET WORK, BUT, UM, WE HAVE TO FIND A LINE.
WE CAN'T DO, YOU KNOW, THE TAJ MAHAL TO SELL CATERPILLAR EQUIPMENT.
I PERSONALLY WELCOME THOMPSON.
I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT Y'ALL ARE COMING OUT HERE.
WE, WE HOPE THAT WILL BE A GREAT ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE TEAM? WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S TIME AND LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING THROUGH ALL THIS WITH Y'ALL IN THE FUTURE.
[8 Development Updates (new cases, administrative reviews, etc.)]
FROM THE STAFF, GET TO IT, STILL HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.THESE YOU MAY GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF, UM, THAT NEW ALTERNATIVE EQUIVALENT COMPLIANCE PROCESS.
AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY, MATH AND MAYBE SOME THINGS THAT HAVE COME IN.
UM, I'LL BE, I'LL BE BRIEF ON THIS ONE.
THIS IS A CHANGE THAT WE ADDED IN MAY TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT WHAT THIS DOES IS IT GIVES THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IT GIVES THE DRC, IT GIVES THE MAYOR AND BOARD SOME FLEXIBILITY WHEN IT COMES TO DESIGN MATTERS.
SOMETIMES DESIGN GUIDELINES CAN BE REALLY RIGID AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS A WAIVER, LIKE I WAS TALKING ABOUT WITH THE, THE GRAVEL, THAT IT CAN BE HARD TO PROVE A HARDSHIP, BUT SOMEBODY MAY HAVE A, AN ALTERNATIVE, UH, WAY OF DOING THINGS THAT'S JUST AS GOOD MEETS THE INTENT OR THEY'RE ABLE TO MITIGATE, UH, WHAT WHATEVER IT IS.
BUT THE INTENT OF THE, OF THE GUIDELINE OR, OR REQUIREMENT IS STILL MET.
UM, SO WE WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING THAT WOULD PROVIDE SOME FLEXIBILITY WITHOUT HAVING TO GET A, A VARIANCE OR DO A FULL BLOWN WAIVER FROM THE DESIGN GUIDELINES.
UH, SO AS, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER TODAY, AN AN EXAMPLE OF THAT MIGHT BE WITH LIKE, WITH OUR, OUR MULCH UH, REQUIREMENTS OR OUR, OUR REQUIREMENT FOR ORGANIC MULCH.
UM, RIGHT NOW THAT, THAT IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.
UH, AND THE REASON BEHIND THAT, THE LEGISLATIVE INTENT IS, IS TO TRY TO MAINTAIN WHAT CAR CARVILLE HAS BECOME KNOWN FOR, WHICH IS A LOT OF GREEN SPACE AND LANDSCAPING.
AS YOU DRIVE THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY, YOU CAN REALLY TELL A BIG DIFFERENCE DRIVING FROM, UH, OTHER PARTS OF, OF, OF THE AREA INTO OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU CAN TELL WHEN YOU'RE IN CARVILLE, YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF LANDSCAPING AND GREEN SPACE ALONG THE ROADWAY.
AND WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID LIKE A ZERO SCAPE.
UM, WHICH LIKE OUT WEST FOR A LOT OF REASONS, THEY HAVE THIS, SOMETIMES IT'S PART OF THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, IT'S THE DESERT.
UM, BUT IT ALSO, IT FOR, BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAVE A, A SHORTAGE OF RAINFALL.
THEY ALSO CAN'T HAVE A, A LOT OF VEGETATION.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO, UM, GO DOWN THAT PATH YET.
WE MAY COME TO IT, BUT OUR AQUIFER HAS A LOT OF WATER.
SO, UH, THERE'S NO NEED TO HAVE A LOT OF ZERO ESCAPE.
UM, SO TWO, TWO REAL LIFE EXAMPLES, AND MARIA ALLUDED TO THIS EARLIER.
UM, THIS, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE THE DRC EXERCISE SOME, SOME, UH, UH, DISCRETION.
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TOO, AND GRANTED A WAIVER IN THAT CASE.BUT IN THIS CASE, WE, WE WOULD CALL IT THE, WE, WE DIDN'T USE THIS TERM, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.
THAT'S A PROVEN ALTERNATIVE, EQUIVALENT TO, UH, OUR, OUR STANDARDS AND BULL, UH, PROVED THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE THE, THE ROCK AND STILL DO IT IN A LIMITED WAY AND, AND, AND AESTHETICALLY RESPONSIBLE WAY AND MEET, MEET THEIR NEED AS FAR AS THE DRAIN IS CONCERNED, AND STILL HAVE A VERY GREEN, GREEN SITE.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT IS AN EXAMPLE.
AND THEY DID AGREE TO SOME CONDITIONS.
AND SO WE EXPECT WITH THIS ALTERNATIVE EQUIVALENT COMPLIANCE PROCESS, THERE WILL BE MITIGATION AND CONDITIONS THAT WOULD, WOULD COME OUT OF IT.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE, AND I, I WISH GRAYSON'S OUT IN THE HALLWAY RIGHT NOW, BUT, BUT GRAYSON AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT MERCEDES WHEN THAT CAME THROUGH AND THAT THERE'S, THERE WERE REQUIREMENTS FOR A BERM, UM, AROUND THE CAR LOT.
SO, AND WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS, CERTAIN USES HAVE VERY, VERY SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS.
AND THE CUP PROCESS IS VERY RIGID.
YOU'VE GOTTA, YOU GOTTA MEET THOSE STANDARDS.
THERE'S NO WAIVER OR, OR VARIANCE.
AND SO WITH THIS PROCESS, IT WILL ALLOW FOR AN ALTERNATIVE.
AND IN THIS CASE, A BERM WAS REQUIRED AROUND THEIR NEW PARKING LOT OVER AT THE MERCEDES DEALERSHIP.
AND IT DIDN'T MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE.
THERE'S, IT'S UP AGAINST ANOTHER DEALERSHIP, SUNRISE TO THE NORTH, THERE'S TO TOPOGRAPHICAL CHANGES.
AND THEY COULD PROVIDE LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD DO THAT, THAT WOULD DO A BETTER JOB THAN, THAN THE BURBS WOULD DO.
BUT THE ORDINANCE WAS SO RIGID WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY FLEXIBILITY.
SO THERE IS A PROCESS WHERE, UH, THEY COULD GO AND ASK THE, THE MAYOR AND BOARD FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY, UH, DO THIS, THIS ALTERNATIVE EQUIVALENT PROCESS.
AND, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION IN THAT REGARD.
AND IT REALLY HAS TO DO WHETHER THE DRC IS MAKING A RECOMMENDATION OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S MAKING A RECOMMENDATION.
IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE, THE GUIDELINE OR THE STANDARD LIVES.
IF IT LIVES IN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, WE'LL BE COMING TO Y'ALL FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO THE MAYOR AND BOARD.
AND IF IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT THAT'S IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
AS WE'RE DOING THESE, UH, WE, WE WILL STAFF WILL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AS WELL.
SO WE'LL TRY TO CALL BALLS AND STRIKES AND LET LET YOU KNOW IF WE'RE CONCERNED, LIKE WE DID EARLIER TODAY ABOUT, UH, ABOUT A WAIVER IF IF WE, IF WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT A SOLUTION OR, OR WHAT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
AND WE'LL DO THE SAME THING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A SLIGHT ADDITIONAL FEE IF THEY'VE GOTTA COME TO THE DRC WHEN THEY OTHERWISE WOULDN'T, THE APPLICANT WOULD PAY $200.
IT'S JUST A VERY MINIMAL AMOUNT TO HELP WITH PUBLIC NOTICE AND A LITTLE BIT OF OUR TIME.
UH, BUT THERE'S A FEE AND THERE'S NOT A SPECIAL REFORM OR THAT THAT WILL REQUIRE, BUT THEY, THEY WILL PUT INTO THEIR COVER LETTER OR WE'LL EXPECT THEM TO PUT IT INTO THEIR COVER LETTER, WHAT ANY, ANY TYPE OF WAIVER OR ALTERNATIVE EQUIVALENT REQUEST THAT THEY'RE CLAIMING AND ANY MITIGATION.
SO I, I IMAGINE THERE'LL BE SOME BACK AND FORTH WITH STAFF BEFORE Y'ALL SEE IT.
THEN WE'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHETHER WE THINK THEY HAVE POSSIBLE THEY HAVE $200 TO COME BEFORE THE DRC JUST TO COME BEFORE THE DRC.
IT'S 500 IN GERMANTOWN, IS IT? OH, WOW.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO UP OUR UP OUR GAME.
WELL THEY CAN PUT THAT $300 TOWARDS ROCK.
THE FOLKS THAT WE TALKED WITH EARLIER TODAY.
SO
UM, WE'VE TRADITIONALLY HAD TO REALLY WORK HARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THIS JUSTIFIED.
IF, I MEAN, IF, IF THIS ALTERNATIVE, UH, EQUIVALENT COMPLIANCE, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT ANYMORE.
WE CAN JUST SAY THIS IS MORE APPROPRIATE WITHOUT STATING A REASON.
I THINK IT'S STILL GOOD TO SAY THE REASONS.
LIKE I, I BELIEVE IF YOU BELIEVE THAT BULL WITH THEIR, THEIR ROCK, IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS A LIMITED USE AND IT BECAUSE THEY'VE CHOSEN A REALLY, AN AESTHETICALLY PLEASING STONE.
I THINK, I THINK YOU COULD SAY THAT, THAT THAT, AND THERE'S STILL, THEY STILL HAVE A LOT OF GREEN SPACE ON THE SIDE THAT TREMENDOUS S AMOUNT OF GREEN SPACE THAT MIGHT BE A REASON OR WITH THE BERM.
I I, I DO THINK FOR THE MINUTES FOR DEFENSIBILITY AND JUST SEEING PEOPLE IN THE GROCERY STORE AND PEOPLE DO WONDER LIKE, WELL, WHY'D YOU DO THIS FOR THEM AND NOT FOR THEM? YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT IT'S IT'S HELPFUL.
WE'VE ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT YEAH.
AND WE LEARN EVERY, EVERY MEETING WE LEARN WHAT Y'ALL THINK AND, AND WHAT, AND WHICH OUR PREFERENCES ARE.
AND I THINK THIS BOIL ONE, UM, COMPARED TO THE WHOLE SITE AND LIKE, IT'S MORE LIKE THE PERCENTAGE WAS SO SMALL MM-HMM
BUT IF YOU WENT, IF YOU DID THIS ON A SMALLER SITE MM-HMM
THEY WANTED 75 SQUARE FEET, AND IF THAT WAS LIKE HALF 50% MM-HMM
THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
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THIS, THIS WAS A PRETTY SIMPLE AND WE, WE ACTUALLY ACQUIRED THEM TO HAVE DECORATIVE WATT ROCK, WHICH IS VERY EXPENSIVE.
IT WAS A SPECIFIC, 'CAUSE THEIR ROOF SLOPE WENT RIGHT DOWN INTO THAT CORNER.
SO I THINK THAT, I BELIEVE THAT WAS WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED.
A REALLY TALL, UH, YEAH, THEY WERE DUMPING WATER OFF THE, OFF THAT ROOF AND IT WAS GOING A COUPLE OF STORIES TO THE GROUND AND WITH THAT, THAT VELOCITY, IT WAS WASHING OUT ANY MOLDS THAT THEY HAD.
AND THEY COULD HAVE MADE CHANGES TO THE BUILDING, BUT THEN, THEN IT WOULD'VE STARTED, IT WOULD'VE MESSED WITH THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING.
AND THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER MITIGATION STRATEGY, IS THAT WE DIDN'T WANT TO ALTER THE, THE AESTHETICS OF THE BUILDING WITH A, WITH A DIFFERENT SOLUTION.
IS THAT, THAT'S ALL ON THAT ONE ON, ON THAT PARTICULAR PROCESS.
UH, SHEILA'S, SHE'S BEEN WITH US ABOUT A YEAR, SO, AND SHE'S, SHE'S MOVING, I DON'T THINK WE DID ANYTHING
BUT SHE HAS FAMILY IN, UM, THE DALLAS, TEXAS AREA AND SHE WANTS TO BE CLOSER TO FAMILY.
UM, SO SHE'LL BE GOING TO BE A PLANNER, PLANNER TWO.
SO SHE'S GETTING A PROMOTION AND GONNA WORK FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE'RE CONTINUING ON WITH THAT.
THE STEERING COMMITTEE MEETS ONCE A MONTH.
UH, WE'RE REALLY PICKING UP STEAM AFTER THE MAY CHARETTE.
UH, THERE'LL BE OVER THE NEXT 30 DAYS, THERE'LL BE SOME MAPS THAT'LL BE BECOME PUBLIC, SOME DRAFT CHAPTERS.
SO WE'RE RE REALLY GETTING INTO TO SOME OF THE, THE FINE DETAILS.
BUT IT'S, IT'S VERY EXCITING TO, TO BE AT THIS STAGE.
WE'RE STILL ON TARGET FOR AN ADOPTION NEXT.
SO YOU, EVEN THOUGH WE MIGHT HAVE SOME DRAFTS OUT THERE, WE'VE STILL GOTTA COMMUNICATE WITH THE PUBLIC AND LET 'EM KNOW WHAT IT SAYS.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
UH, EVEN THIS WEEK WE'VE SEEN JUST A LOT OF, A LOT OF MOVEMENT WITH, WITH THE CONSULTANT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE DOING A LOT OF WORK BEHIND THE SCENES.
SO GOOD, GOOD STUFF TO SHOW IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS OR SO.
UM, YOUR NEXT MEETING, WE KNOW OF AT LEAST ONE CASE, PROBABLY TWO AUTOZONE.
UH, YOU'VE ALREADY MET WITH THEM IN A WORK SESSION, BUT BECAUSE, BECAUSE IT'S, UH, A CASE BY CASE TYPE MATERIAL, THEY, THEY NEED YOUR FORMAL RECOMMENDATION.
UH, I KNOW YOU FELT GOOD ABOUT IT AT THE WORK SESSION ABOUT USING THE, THE REAL STUCCO.
UH, BUT IF WE CAN PUT THAT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, SINCE YOU'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT THAT BEFORE, FEEL FREE TO PULL IT OFF IF YOU NEED TO.
UM, BUT THEY'VE GOTTA GET A FORMAL RECOMMENDATION.
SO WE WOULD BRING THAT TO YOU.
AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER CASE THAT I WAS GONNA SHOW YOU ON THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY MAP.
UH, IT'S JUST SOUTH OF AUTOZONE, IT'S NEXT TO CENTRAL CHURCH.
UM, THEY, THEY HAVE A DRIVEWAY THAT GOES OUT TO HOUSTON LEVY AND THEY WANNA PUT IN A MULTI-TENANT RETAIL CENTER.
AND THE FIRST TENANT WOULD BE DOMINO'S, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE SPACE FOR MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE OTHER TENANTS WITHIN THAT BUILDING.
AND THEY, THEY HAVE SOME MATERIALS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE BOX TOO.
THEY HAVE A METAL, OR IT'S NOT METAL, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A FAUX WOOD THAT WE HAVEN'T QUITE SEEN BEFORE.
WE'VE SEEN SOME OF THIS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT IN, UH, MAYBE, MAYBE A MCDONALD'S USED IT BEFORE, UH, AT HOUSTON, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT.
BUT THEY, THEY'RE PLANNING QUITE, QUITE A LOT OF IT.
AND THEY MAY HAVE SOME OTHER DESIGN GUIDELINE WAIVERS THAT THEY WANT TO ASK ABOUT AS WELL.
MAY THEY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE TOO MUCH PARKING IN THE FRONT YARD.
THEY MIGHT, THEY MIGHT REDUCE THAT AND MOVE IT TO THE SIDE OR REAR, BUT THEY MIGHT WANT TO WAIVER THERE.
SO WE'LL KNOW MORE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
BUT I'M, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'LL SEE THEM AT YOUR AUGUST MEETING AS WELL.
IS THAT WHERE AN A EC? FORGIVE ME.
SO WHERE THE A EC WOULD COME IN OR? I I'M STILL TRYING TO, THEY COULD, YEAH.
I'M STILL TRYING TO LEARN HOW ALL THOSE EXACTLY.
THEY COULD SAY WELL, BECAUSE ALTERNATIVE, RIGHT? YES.
SO INSTEAD OF GETTING A WAIVER, THEY SAY, THEY SAY WE WANNA HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE PARKING UP FRONT, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO PUT A DOUBLE HEDGE IN INSTEAD OF A SINGLE HEDGE.
SO INSTEAD OF FIGHTING FOR WHAT THEY WANT, THEY'RE OFFERING AN ALTERNATIVE INITIALLY.
OR THE, THE WOOD IS MORE OF A, IT'S LESS OF A WAIVER AND MORE OF JUST MAKING SURE THAT IT'S A QUALITY MATERIAL.
IT'S, IT LOOKS, IT'S LIKE TREKS THAT GOES ON A, A DECK.
IT'S, IT'S MORE, IT'S MADE MORE FOR A BUILDING RATHER THAN A, THAN A DECK THAT IT'S THICKER AND IT'S, YOU CAN TELL THAT THERE'S DIFFERENCES IN THE, THE COLOR THAT'S INTEGRATED INTO IT, BUT THEY, THEY WANNA SHOW YOU ALL THESE THINGS.
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OR, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE, BUT HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND TRAIN US ABOUT DIFFERENT MATERIALS THAT COULD, LIKE I THINK WE USED TO HAVE A LIGHTING WORKSHOP.YEAH, THAT'D BE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT WOULD JUST, THAT'D BE AWESOME.
OR EVEN JUST EXPLAIN FOR NEW PEOPLE ESPECIALLY YEAH.
AND THEN TALK ABOUT LIKE THE QUALITY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE A PRODUCT PERSON OR A ARCHITECT OR REMEMBER CURTIS USED TO KNOW EVERYTHING.
I KNOW CURTIS, MAYBE CURTIS WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION.
HE LIKE THAT HE MIGHT LIKE THAT HE DID SAY THAT WE COULD CALL THAT'S TERRIBLE STUFF.
SO WE COULD MAYBE DO A HYBRID APPROACH WHERE WE COULD DO STAFF WHERE WE, WE TALK ABOUT PICK THE MATERIALS THAT ARE ALLOWED AND MAYBE WHERE WE'VE ALLOWED THEM, BUT ALSO GET, GET AN ARCHITECT'S HELP.
AND I KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME ARCHITECTS AND MAYBE WE COULD LEAN ON Y'ALL TO AND SAY, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS OR THAT? AND WE'LL, WE'LL ALL COLLABORATE AND SHARE WHAT WE KNOW.
OR IF THERE'S LIKE A VIDEO ONLINE THAT'S ALREADY DONE.
I DON'T KNOW WHO EVEN WATCH IT AT HOME AND NOT BO BOTHER YOU GUYS, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
SO I DON'T SAY THE WORD SWAYING METAL ON, UH, RECORDING
I THINK IT'S ALL, UM, SHOULD WE DISMISS? WHAT DO YOU THINK? ALL RIGHT.