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UH, WELCOME TO THE JUNE 11TH DESIGN REVIEW HEARING.WE HAVE A QUORUM, SO I WILL ASK, UM, YOU TO CALL ROLL COMMISSIONER JORDAN.
UM, SO THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, GRAB A CARD IN THE BACK.
THERE'S ALSO AGENDAS AND, UM, THERE IS A 10 MINUTE TIME CAP ON, UM, OPPOSITION TO SPEAKING.
SO I KNOW THAT A FEW OF YOU, UM, DONATED YOUR TIME, SO, ALL RIGHT.
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ON.WE, UM, WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING.
SECOND, UM, ANY DISCUSSION? UH, WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ROLL, UH, COMMISSIONER P PEELER? YES.
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THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? NO, THERE ARE NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA.IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS SUBMITTED? MOTION TO APPROVE.
SECOND, UH, WOULD YOU CALL ROLL? YES.
UM, ALRIGHT, SO CITIZEN COMMENTS.
ARE THERE, IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING NOT ON THE AGENDA? OH, SORRY.
[9.a Case #260822 – Schilling Farms Planned Development Area 2 (The Water Tower District, Phase 2) – Review and Discuss Previous Conditions of Approval related to a Final Site Plan for 200 multifamily residential units on 13.13 acres located on the west side of Schilling Boulevard West and south of Poplar Avenue.]
UM, OUR FIRST CASE, IT, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A FORMAL VOTING ITEM.WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESS AND THIS CASE NUMBER 2 6 0 8 2 2.
AND DON CUETA HAS A, UM, ALLISON AS A PRESENTATION SOMEONE DOES.
UH, SO YEAH, TONIGHT YOU GUYS ARE, UM, RE-REVIEWING THE, UH, FINAL SITE PLAN FOR, UM, FOR THE WATER TOWER DISTRICT AND SHILLING FARMS. UH, YOU GUYS REVIEWED THE PRELIMINARY, UH, SITE PLAN IN APRIL OF 2025.
YOU REVIEWED AND, UH, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH 19 CONDITIONS.
UH, AND BASED ON A FEW OF THOSE CONDITIONS, Y'ALL WANTED TO SEE A FEW ITEMS BROUGHT BACK TO YOU.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT TONIGHT.
UH, AND THOSE ITEMS WERE, UM, BUILDING MATERIAL, A LIGHTING PLAN, AND LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING.
AND, UH, AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED, THIS IS A, UH, NON-VOTING ITEM, REALLY JUST HERE TO REVIEW.
SO QUICKLY, JUST TO RECAP, UM, WHEN, WHEN Y'ALL REVIEWED THIS LAST YEAR, UH, THERE WERE MORE DWELLING UNITS THAN THERE ARE NOW.
NOW THERE'S 200, UH, THERE'S 23 DIFFERENT, UH, THERE'S 23 DIFFERENT BUILDINGS AND SEVEN DIFFERENT BUILDING TYPES.
THOSE BUILDING TYPES RANGE FROM TWO STORY TO THREE STORY.
UH, BASED ON SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM, UM, THE DRC AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND FROM THE PUBLIC, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS, UH, SWITCHED UP SOME OF THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE CLOSEST TO THAT WESTERN BOUNDARY LINE.
SO NOW, UH, THE STRUCTURES THAT ARE NEAREST, ESPECIALLY THE SOUTHWEST, ARE, UM, GONNA BE, UM, TWO STORY, WHEREAS THEY, THEY, BEFORE THEY WERE TALLER, UM, THERE ARE 430 PARKING SPACES AND IT'S GONNA ALSO INCLUDE A POOL, OUTDOOR KITCHEN, AND A DOG PARK.
SO THE FIRST THING THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT IS THE BUILDING MATERIALS.
UM, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR 75% MASONRY AND 20% TRANSPARENCY.
I DON'T THINK THAT THIS TABLE WAS PROVIDED WHEN Y'ALL REVIEWED THIS BACK IN APRIL OF 2025.
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NOW IT'S HERE.AND NOW WE CAN CONFIRM THAT THEY ARE MEETING THAT 75% MASONRY AND THE 20% TRANSPARENCY FROM THE PRIMARY FACADE.
SO THE NEXT THING WE WANNA TALK ABOUT IS THE LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING REQUIREMENT.
UM, SPECIFICALLY THIS AREA THAT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN RED, UH, THIS IS WHERE THE DOG PARK IS GOING TO GO.
THIS IS WHERE THE TRASH COMPACTOR ENCLOSURE WILL BE.
AND THIS IS WHERE THE PORTER FARM RESIDENTS ARE.
SO THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE'RE GONNA FOCUS ON IN TERMS OF LANDSCAPING AND SCREENING.
SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
SO IF YOU LOOK RIGHT HERE, WHERE THE START OF THE TRAIL, WHICH IS THIS, THIS IS A NICE LITTLE WALKING TRAIL.
THIS IS COMMON OPEN SPACE THAT'S OWNED BY PORTER FARMS. SO YOU CAN SEE DOWN HERE THE PORTER FARMS, HOA, THEY HAVE PLANTED QUITE A BIT OF, UM, LOOKS LIKE HOLLY BUSHES THAT THEY'VE PLANTED ALONG HERE.
SO ONCE THOSE GROW UP, THAT'LL BE NICE SCREENING.
AND THEN THIS IMAGE HERE IS LOOKING FROM THE TRAIL ONTO SHILLING FARM'S PROPERTY.
UH, A LOT OF THIS THAT YOU CAN SEE IT'S SCRUB BRUSH, UH, IS WHAT THE PORTER FARMS RESIDENTS WOULD SEE FROM THAT COMMON OPEN SPACE.
UM, THERE'S SOME CHINESE PRITT IN THERE, WHICH IS AN INVASIVE SPECIES.
THERE'S SOME POISON IVY, THERE'S SOME POISON OAK, THERE'S SOME DEAD TREES.
UH, THE A THE APPLICANT WILL GET IN THERE, THEY WILL CLEAR OFF SOME OF THAT DEBRIS, SOME OF THE INVASIVE SPECIES, OBVIOUSLY THE POISON IVY AND THE POISON OAK.
UM, BUT THEY ARE COMMITTED TO LEAVING A GOOD BIT OF THE TREES AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT HERE.
UH, SO I, I DON'T BELIEVE A TREE PROTECTION PLAN WAS PROVIDED, UH, BACK IN APRIL WHEN, WHEN Y'ALL REVIEWED THIS PRELIMINARILY.
SO NOW HERE WE CAN SEE, UM, THAT THEY ARE COMMITTED TO PUTTING IN THIS TREE PROTECTION PLAN.
AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S NOT GONNA BE JUST ONE CLAIM, YOU KNOW, STRAIGHT BUFFER.
I BELIEVE ONE OF THE RESIDENTS OF PORTER FARMS WAS ASKING IF THERE WAS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, 10 FEET WHERE THEY WOULDN'T TOUCH ANY OF THAT VEGETATION OR WOULD IT BE 15 FEET.
UM, AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE CONSISTENT AND THEY WILL TOUCH SOME VEGETATION AGAIN, CLEARING OUT SOME OF THAT SCRUB BRUSH.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE TREE PRESERVATION PLAN, THE CLOSEST THAT IT WILL BE, IT'S ABOUT 24 FEET FROM THAT WESTERN LOT LINE.
AND THEN THE FURTHEST IT WILL BE WILL BE ABOUT 74 FEET AWAY.
SO THERE WILL BE, UH, QUITE A FEW TREES WITHIN THIS AREA.
YOU CAN SEE THEM HERE, INCLUDING TWO SPECIMEN TREES.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SOME VEGETATION, AGAIN THAT WAS TOO SMALL TO BE SURVEYED, SO SOME OF THAT WILL ALSO REMAIN.
UM, AND THEN ANOTHER CONCERN THAT THE RE ACTUALLY, SORRY, LEMME GO BACK HERE.
THERE WAS A, UM, THERE WAS A CONDITION THAT STAFF PUT ON THERE WHERE WE ASKED THE APPLICANT TO CONSIDER ADDING SOME EVERGREENS RIGHT HERE ALONG THIS WESTERN LOT LINE.
UM, AND WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS DECIDED TO DO INSTEAD AGAIN, IS TO PUT UP THIS TREE PROTECTION TO SAVE A LOT OF WHAT'S EXISTING.
UM, BUT THE PLAN IS NOT TO PUT ANY ADDITIONAL VEGETATION ALONG THIS WESTERN BOUNDARY LINE IN THE DOG PARK.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, IT'S NOT HERE ON YOUR SCREEN, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL LANDSCAPING PLAN NORTH OF HERE, THERE WILL BE QUITE A BIT OF VEGETATION, UM, UP NORTH OF HERE, SORT OF, UM, BLOCKING THE, THE, THE PARKING LOT AREA.
UH, BUT AGAIN, HERE IN THE DOG PARK, THEY ARE NOT PLANNING ON PUTTING, UM, ADDITIONAL VEGETATION.
THEY WANNA JUST LEAVE WHAT'S THERE.
UH, SO ANOTHER, UM, CONCERN FOR SCREENING WAS THE TRASH COMPACTOR.
SO I BELIEVE THE ELEVATION WAS PROVIDED TO YOU GUYS IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, THE COMPACTOR ITSELF, UM, SORRY, THE ENCLOSURE ITSELF IS GONNA BE A LITTLE OVER, UH, 11 FEET TALL.
AND THEN THE TRASH COMPACTOR WILL BE EIGHT FEET, SIX INCHES.
SO THERE WILL BE TWO FEET DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UM, THE TOP OF THE TRASH COMPACTOR AND THEN THE TOP OF THAT ENCLOSURE.
UM, THERE WILL BE SOME, UH, PRETTY FAST GROWING VEGETATION THAT THE APPLICANTS HAVE CHOSEN, UM, THESE HOLLIES AND THEN THE CAROLINA CHERRIES.
AND JUST SO THAT WE CAN ORIENT OURSELVES THIS IS THAT THIS IS THAT COMMON OPEN SPACE.
THIS IS THAT SHARED LOT LINE, AND THIS IS THE COMMON OPEN SPACE IN THE TRAIL HERE.
UM, SO THESE CHERRY TREES, ONCE THEY'RE MATURE, WILL BE ABOUT 15 TO 25 FEET TALL.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THE COMPACTOR ITSELF IS A LITTLE OVER
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11 FEET.SO, UM, THIS IS A, THE CHOICE OF THESE TREES, AGAIN, ONCE THEY'RE MATURE AND THEY GROW ABOUT ONE TO TWO FEET A YEAR, UH, ON AVERAGE, UM, STAFF DOES BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE A NICE SCREENING OF THAT TRASH COMPACTOR ENCLOSURE.
AND THIS WAS A RECENT SITE VISIT.
THIS IS FROM PHASE ONE, SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, IT IS A, YOU KNOW, BRICK ON THREE SIDES AND THEN THE GATE OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO ACCESS.
AND THEN THIS PHOTO HERE, UH, THIS WAS TAKEN FROM, I GUESS I WANNA, OKAY, GOOD.
YEAH, SO, SO DON COTA HAS IT RIGHT THERE.
SO, UM, THIS TRASH COMPACTOR IS, IS IN THE CORNER, UM, OF THE PHASE ONE OF THE WATERTOWN DISTRICT AND THEN THAT PARKING LOT TO THE SOUTH THAT IS, UM, A A APARTMENT COMPLEX.
AND SO ABOUT WHERE THAT WHITE TRUCK IS, IS WHERE THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN.
THIS PHOTO HERE ON THE BOTTOM WAS TAKEN.
SO YOU CAN SEE THE VEGETATION THAT THEY'VE PLANTED HERE.
UM, IT'S ALREADY GROWN QUITE A BIT.
THESE WERE, I BELIEVE, THREE FEET WHEN THEY WERE PLANTED.
AND NOW YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY SEVEN FEET TALL.
UM, SO THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT, UH, ON PHASE TWO.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS AN IMAGE TAKEN JUST SOUTH OF THAT COMPACTOR AND STAFF ANTICIPATES THAT THE NEW ENCLOSURE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING FOR PHASE TWO WILL LOOK VERY SIMILAR TO THE ENCLOSURE, UM, THAT THE LANDSCAPING FOR, UH, PHASE ONE.
UH, SOMETHING ELSE THAT, UH, THE DRC ASKED TO SEE WAS A LIGHTING PLAN.
SO THEY DID PROVIDE A PHOTOMETRIC PLAN, AND I KNOW THIS CAN GET, UH, A LITTLE CONFUSING.
WE USE FOOT CANDLES AND THAT CAN BE A LITTLE, UM, SORT OF ABSTRACT.
BUT, UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE THIS SOUTHWEST PROPERTY LINE, WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING IS THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED IS ONE FOOT CANDLE, BUT WHEN WE SAY THE MAXIMUM ALLOW, THAT MEANS THE LIGHT SOURCE ITSELF.
AND SO ONCE IT'S SHINING DOWN ONTO THE PROPERTY LINE, IT'S GONNA BE MUCH LESS.
AND WE CAN ZOOM INTO THIS PHOTOMETRIC PLAN SPECIFICALLY HERE, UH, AT THE DOG PARK, WHEN YOU ZOOM IN, YOU CAN SEE IT'S, YOU KNOW, 0.2 8.27.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE BELOW WHAT IS WHAT WE REQUIRE.
SO EVEN THOUGH THE LIGHT SOURCE ITSELF WOULD BE ONE FOOT CANDLE WHEN YOU GO DOWN AND MEASURE AT THE PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN 10 FEET AWAY, THE LIGHT THAT THE, THE TYPES OF LIGHTING THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING ARE WELL WITHIN THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS FOR, UM, FULL CUTOFF AND TO LIMIT THE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
SO THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE TYPE OF, UM, THE TYPE OF LIGHT FIXTURES THAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON INSTALLING.
SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE LOOKING, WE ARE NORTH OF THE ROUNDABOUT.
SO THE MAJORITY OF THE, UH, THE LIGHTS THAT ARE GONNA BE INSTALLED AGAIN ALONG THIS PARKING AREA, THEY ARE A TYPE S ONE.
IT'S 25 FEET TALL THAT IS WITHIN THE, UH, ALLOWED RANGE FOR, UH, THIS DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
WHEN WE LOOK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH, KIND OF NEAR THIS ROUNDABOUT, WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THE RESIDENCES.
AND IF YOU LOOK, I'VE CIRCLED HERE, THIS IS A TYPE P, UM, THE, THE, THE POLE ITSELF IS 14 FEET, UM, BUT THE LIGHT SOURCE IS GONNA BE 13 FEET, 10 INCHES.
SO AGAIN, IT'S WELL BELOW, IT'S BELOW WHAT OUR REQUIREMENT IS, UH, WITHIN, YOU KNOW, 50 FEET OF, UM, A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENT ZONING DISTRICT.
AND NOW WE'VE MOVED A LITTLE BIT FURTHER SOUTH.
NOW WE'RE HERE IN THE DOG PARK AREA.
UM, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A DIFFERENT TYPE S TWO, BUT AGAIN, THE SAME HEIGHT, VERY SIMILAR, UH, TO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED JUST NORTH OF HERE IN THE PARKING LOT.
AND THEN ONCE YOU GET AROUND THIS TRASH COMPACTOR, THESE ARE GONNA BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, PEDESTRIAN, UH, STYLE BALLARD LIGHTING.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING MAYBE THREE FEET OFF THE GROUND.
UM, THE FOOT CANDLES FOR THESE THINGS ARE, ARE, ARE REALLY MINIMAL.
AND AGAIN, ALL OF THESE LIGHT SOURCES ARE FULL CUTOFF.
SO BASED ON ALL OF THAT, STAFF HAS DETERMINED THAT THE CONDITIONS, UM, FROM THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN HAVE BEEN MET.
AND, UH, I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.
AND I KNOW THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE, THEY COULD ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE TOO.
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FOR STAFF? OKAY.UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO, UM, COME UP AND SPEAK? UH, WE DON'T HAVE A, UM, LES BINKLEY BOYLE INVESTMENT COMPANY, 5,900 POPLAR.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PRESENTATION.
WE'RE JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS OR BE AVAILABLE IF Y'ALL HAVE DISCUSSIONS THAT WERE NEEDED.
UM, DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR, UH, APPLICANT? NOPE.
I HAD A COMMENT ABOUT THE, UM, LANDSCAPE PLAN.
I NOTICED YOU HAD INDIAN HAWTHORNE, AND I KNOW WHEN WE HAD THAT BIG FREEZE THAT WAS, THAT KILLED A LOT OF INDIAN HAWTHORNE.
SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT'S POSSIBLY GONNA BE A PROBLEM IN THE FUTURE.
WE'LL NOTE THAT AND IF WE CAN SUPPLEMENT THE MATERIAL.
WE'LL, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE? UM, WELL I, I GUESS I DO.
I I WAS NOT HERE BEFORE AND I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS DOG PARK AND WHERE, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT THE DIAGRAM ON THE LEFT UNDER TREE PRESERVATION PLAN.
UM, WHERE IS THE DOG PARK IN RELATIONSHIP TO THIS BUFFER OF THE TREES AND THE, THE, UH, COMPACTOR LOCATION? UM, THE DOG PARK, IT GOES, YOU'RE, THIS IS THE GENERAL ZONE OF THE DOG PART.
YOU CAN TRY TO SEE, I'M KIND OF MIMICKING THE IMAGE TO THE RIGHT WHEN I'M DRAWING IT.
SO IT, IT'S ENCOMPASSED KIND OF WHOLE NORTH SOUTH, SO IT'S NOT A SEPARATE, IT'S NOT A SEPARATE AREA.
I MEAN IT'S, IT'S INCORPORATED IN WITH THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND ALL THAT.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO, YES, SIR.
UM, OKAY, WELL WE HAVE SOME CARDS AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UM, GUSTAVO, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK FIRST AND YOU'D HAVE, UM, FIVE MINUTES AND THEN BARBARA WOULD HAVE HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, MY ADDRESS, 1 26 PEYTON ROUND LOOP EAST COLVILLE.
SO GOOD EVENING, UH, CHAIRPERSON, DO HART AND COMMISSIONERS.
I'M A RESIDENT OF PORTER FARMS PHASE SEVEN AND VICE PRESIDENT AT THE HOA.
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION AND THE TOWN STAFF FOR THE TIME, FOR THE EFFORT AND THE THOUGHTFULNESS YOU HAVE INVESTED IN THIS PROJECT.
MANY OF THE CONDITIONS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY IMPOSED BY THE COMMISSION REFLECT CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE RAISED AS NEIGHBORS, UH, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT THOSE CONCERNS WERE HEARD AND TAKEN SERIOUSLY.
SO I ALSO WANNA THANK, UH, BOYLE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY FOR TAKING THOSE CONCERNS SERIOUSLY.
SO TONIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK BRIEFLY ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVE THAT IS AT THE HEART OF GREAT DESIGN.
AND THIS IS THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION.
AND THAT CONCEPT IS THE CONCEPT OF EMPATHY.
SO IN MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE, I WORK WITH TECHNOLOGY, PRODUCTS AND CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE DESIGN.
AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT PRINCIPLES WE USE IS CALLED HUMAN-CENTERED DESIGN.
BEFORE WE DESIGN SOMETHING, WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE EXPERIENCE OF THE PEOPLE WHO WILL LIVE WITH THAT OUTCOME.
EVERY DAY WE ASK QUESTIONS LIKE, WHAT WILL THEY SEE? WHAT WILL THEY HEAR, WHAT WILL THEY SMELL? HOW THEY, HOW WILL THEY EXPERIENCE THIS PLACE FIVE, 10, OR 20 YEARS FROM NOW? I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO APPLY THE SAME LENS TONIGHT AS, AS YOU EVALUATE THE PROJECT.
IMAGINE STANDING IN THE BACKYARD OF A PORTER FARM'S HOME ON A WARM, WARM SUMMER EVENING.
IMAGINE CHILDREN PLAYING OUTSIDE, IMAGINE NEIGHBORS SITTING ON THEIR PATIOS AFTER WORK.
IMAGINE LOOKING TOWARD THE WATER TOWER DISTRICT AND EXPERIENCING THE EDGE WHERE THESE TWO COMMUNITIES MEET.
THE QUESTION IS NOT SIMPLY WHETHER THE PLANS MEET MINIMAL REQUIREMENTS.
THE QUESTION IS WHETHER THE DESIGN CREATES A THOUGHTFUL AND RESPECTFUL TRANSITION BETWEEN EXISTING RESIDENTS AND FUTURE RESIDENTS.
THAT TRANSITION IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT ALONG THAT WESTERN EDGE
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OF THE PROPERTY THAT WE WERE REVIEWING EARLIER.THE MATURE TREES AND VEGETATIONS THAT AND VEGETATION THAT EXIST TODAY DO MUCH MORE THAN PROVIDE SCREENING.
THEY CREATE PRIVACY, THEY REDUCE NOISE, THEY SOFTEN VIEWS, THEY PROVIDE HABITAT, AND THEY CREATE A SENSE OF SEPARATION BETWEEN DIFFERENT LAND USES, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL.
ONCE MATURE VISIT VEGETATION IS REMOVED, IT CANNOT BE REPLACED OVERNIGHT.
A NEWLY PLANTED TREE MAY TAKE YEARS TO OR DECADES TO PROVIDE THE SAME BENEFIT THAT AN EXISTING MATURE TREE ALREADY PROVIDES TODAY.
I WOULD ALSO APPRECIATE CLARIFICATION REGARDING CONDITION 19, WHICH DID REQUIRE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AT THE DOG PARK TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE SCREENING AS NE AS A NEIGHBORING RESIDENT REVIEWING THE PLANS, I HAVE STRUGGLED TO IDENTIFY THE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING THAT HAS IF IT HAS BEEN ADDED.
AND, UH, IT WAS MA MADE CLEAR TO THE COMMENTS THAT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE BEEN ADDED.
SO I REALLY, I RESPECTFULLY ASKED THE COMMISSION TO EXAMINE THAT AREA CAREFULLY.
IF EXISTING VEGETATION IS REMOVED, WHAT WILL PROVIDE THAT SCREENING THE CONDITION 19 INTENDED TO ACHIEVE DURING THE YEARS REQUIRED FOR NEW LANDSCAPING TO GROW? SO THAT QUESTION GOES DIRECTLY TO THE PURPOSE AND INTENT OF THE CONDITION.
I ALSO LIKE TO ADDRESS THE PROPOSED FRESH COMPACTOR.
THIS COMMISSION PREVIOUSLY REQUIRED ADDITIONAL SCREENING AROUND THE COMPACTOR, RECOGNIZING THE SENSITIVITY OF ITS LOCATION NEAR EXISTING HOMES.
UPON REVIEWING THE EXISTING COMPACTOR AND DOC DOCUMENTED CONDITIONS THERE, EVEN WITH WALLS AND LANDSCAPING, WE HAVE STRONG CONCERNS THAT WASTE MATERIALS WOULD BE EXPOSED AND TOO CLOSE TO OUR HOMES.
SO IMAGINE WHAT WOULD, WOULD IT FEEL LIKE, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DISTANCE WE HAVE HERE IF IT'S 90 FEET OR LESS, BUT IF I DROP A BUNCH OF TRASH OVER THERE, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SMELL IF IT WAS IN THE COM DE COMPOSITION DURING THE SUMMER? PROBABLY WOULD.
THAT'S HOW WE WOULD EXPERIENCE A COMPACTOR WITHIN FEET OF OUR PROPERTY.
LANDSCAPING CAN SCREEN THE VIEW, BUT IT CANNOT FULLY SCREEN ORDERS, IT CANNOT FULLY SCREEN FLIES, IT CANNOT FULLY SCREEN COLLECTION TRUCKS AND OPERATIONAL ACTIVITY.
THAT'S WHY THAT PROXIMITY MATTERS.
AND WE HAVE, UH, KINDLY REQUESTED CONSIDERATION OF MOVING THAT COMPACTOR FURTHER NORTH ON THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE HOTEL WHERE THE HOTEL HAS THEIR OWN COMPACTOR.
SO, AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT ASKING THAT THIS PROJECT BE STOPPED.
WE RECOGNIZE THE GROWTH IS PART OF COLOR VIEW'S FUTURE AND WE SUPPORT THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT.
WE WANT THE WATER TOWER DISTRICT TO SUCCEED.
AS I WAS TELLING WES, WE ENJOY WALKING THERE.
WE ENJOY GOING TO THE RESTAURANTS.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A TRANSITION AREA THAT REFLECTS THE SAME LEVEL OF CARE, QUALITY AND ATTENTION THAT HAS BEEN INVESTED THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
A TRANSITION THAT PRESERVES MEANINGFUL VEGETATION WHERE POSSIBLE, A TRANSITION THAT PROVIDES EFFECTIVE SCREENING, A TRANSITION THAT MINIMIZES THE IMPACTS FROM THE DOG PARK AND TRASH COMPACTOR.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, A TRANSITION THAT DEMONSTRATES RESPECT FOR BOTH FUTURE RESIDENTS AND THE FAMILIES.
THEY ARE ALREADY CALLED PORTER FOR FARMS AT HOME.
AS YOU REVIEW PLANS TONIGHT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER NOT ONLY WHETHER THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL HAVE BEEN TECHNICALLY ADDRESSED, BUT WHETHER THE INTENT BEHIND THOSE CONDITIONS HAVE TRULY BEEN FULFILLED.
BECAUSE AT ITS BEST DESIGN IS NOT JUST ABOUT BUILDINGS, PLANS AND COMPLIANCE, IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, BARBARA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN US AT THE MICROPHONE? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
BARBARA PRATT, ONE 30 PEYTON RUN LOOP EAST COLLIERVILLE.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE TRASH COMPACTOR PHASE TWO OF THE WATER TOWER DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT.
MY HOME IS THE CLOSEST TO THE LOCATION, BUT MY FELLOW RESIDENTS SUPPORT MY COMMENTS.
UH, TO SUMMARIZE A STUDY THAT I SENT TO YOU ALL TO THE DRC THIS WEEK, UM, I'D LIKE TO FIRST COMMENT ON CONGRATULATIONS TO THE RIBBON CUTTING TO BOTH BOYLE AND THE TOWN.
IT REALLY IS A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY.
WE APPRECIATE THE FOCUS OF THE TOWN AND THE DEVELOPER ON PROVIDING SCREENING AND LANDSCAPING TO SHIELD THE TRASH COMPACTOR.
HOWEVER, CONCERNS STILL EXIST AS THE DISTANCE OF THE COMPACTOR TO THE NEARBY RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
THE CURRENT WATER TOWER COMPACTOR SITE IS SURROUNDED BY COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS, PARKING LOTS AND COULD ALSO BE ACHIEVED IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PHASE TWO PROJECT, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO COMMERCIALLY ZONED PROPERTY AND THE NEW HOTEL'S COMPACTOR.
REGARDLESS OF PROPERTY MANAGEMENT'S BEST EFFORTS OR CONCERNS ARE ESCALATED BY HUMAN NATURE'S DISREGARD FOR THE USE OF TRASH
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RECIPROCAL.UH, SEVERAL, UM, SEVERAL UH, APARTMENT COMPLEXES WE'VE SEEN, INCLUDING THE EXISTING WATER TOWER COMPACTOR WHERE TRASH HAS BEEN LEFT TO THE SIDE OR ON TOP OF THE COMPACTOR, ALTHOUGH YOU CAN'T SEE IT FROM THE GROUND LEVEL.
OUR CONCERNS THE PROXIMITY IMPACT ARE EQUAL TO OR MORE PRESSING THAN THAT OF LANDSCAPE SCREENING FOREMOST IS VECTOR CONTROL COMPACTORS ACT AS A PRIMARY ATTRACTANTS FOR RODENTS, INSECTS AND OTHER PESTS.
AND THE PROPOSED GIVE OR TAKE A HUNDRED FEET DISTANCE FROM MY PROPERTY OR FROM MY HOME.
THESE VECTORS ARE WELL WITHIN THE TRAVEL DISTANCE TO INFILTRATE NEARBY HOMES.
RESEARCH RECOMMENDS DISTANCES OF 250 FEET OR GREATER TO A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
IN CONCLUSION, WE ASK THE DRC TO URGE THE RELOCATION OF THE COMPACTOR AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES POTENTIALLY TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.
THANKS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE AN OPTIONAL REBUTTAL FOR THREE MINUTES IS OPTIONAL.
WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO JUST OKAY.
UM, SO I DO, I GUESS I DO WANNA STATE THIS BODY CANNOT CONTROL WHERE OR RECOMMEND WHERE THE COMPACTOR GOES, JUST HOW IT'S SCREENED.
SO DO YOU ALL WANT TO DISCUSS AMONGST OURSELVES, UH, ANY IDEAS, THOUGHTS OTHER THAN THAT? IS THERE, I WILL MAKE A COMMENT AS AS TO WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
THE UM, THE AREA THAT, THAT BUFFER AREA, WHICH HE HAD SAID HAD POISON OAK, POISON VY PRI, WHICH IS INVASIVE SPECIES.
HOWEVER, IT DOES CREATE A BIT OF A SCREEN, SOMETIMES A VERY GOOD SCREEN AND IN CLEAN CLEANING THAT OUT.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ADDITIONAL EV EVERGREENS, WHAT HE SAID IS EXACTLY CORRECT, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SCREEN IT ADEQUATELY.
SO MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE RETHOUGHT AND ADD SOME MORE SCREENING TO THAT AREA.
DO SOME CLEANING OUT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, POISON IVY AND THAT KIND OF THING IN THERE AND LEAVE CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF THAT, PROVE IT OR SAY WILD HOLLIES OR WHATEVER THAT COULD BE MARKED IN THE FIELD.
I MEAN THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD THINK WOULD CREATE A A LITTLE BETTER SCREEN ALSO WOULD HELP DIFFUSE SOME OF THE SMELL THAT CAME OUT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, I KNOW THAT IT, MY PERSONAL OPINION, IT IS A VERY WIDE BUFFER AND THERE IS A LOT OF TREES, BUT IT'S HARD TO JUDGE WHAT WILL LOOK LIKE ONCE IT'S CLEANED UP.
SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME GAPS AND IT WOULD BE USEFUL TO HAVE A FEW TREES ADDED.
WILL THE DOG PARK HAVE ANY TREES? THEY CAN YOU? YEAH, IT SHOULD JUST, YES.
JASON MALTS BULL INVESTMENT COMPANY.
YEAH, IF YOU, I CAN SEE IT ON HERE.
YEAH, THERE ARE QUITE A FEW EXISTING TREES THAT ARE LOCATED THAT WILL REMAIN THESE THAT ARE HERE.
IN THE TREE PROTECTION PLAN, I BELIEVE THESE THAT ARE SHOWN HERE, THOSE ARE ALL EXISTING LARGER TREES.
I BELIEVE THE, THE, I'M SORRY THAT ONE IS NOT THAT I THINK WAS JUST A LEADER, BUT, UM, I THINK THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENT, LIKE FOR THE SURVEY IS I THINK IT'S EIGHT INCHES OR, OR BIGGER.
AND SO THERE ARE SOME OTHER TREES IN THERE THAT ARE SMALLER THAN EIGHT INCHES THAT WERE NOT JUST PICKED UP ON THE TREE SURVEY.
UH, WHAT WE, OUR, OUR PREFERENCE EVEN AS WE GO IN TO CLEAN UP, IS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT IN A WAY THAT MAKES IT LOOK GOOD AND MAKES IT USEFUL FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR THE RESIDENCES, UH, HERE WITHIN THE MULTI-FAMILY TO USE, BUT ALSO AS WELL AS TO KEEP THE SCREEN.
SO IT IS NOT OUR INTENTION TO GO IN THERE AND CLEAR EVERY EVERYTHING OUT, BUT SOME OF THAT MATERIAL THAT'S IN THERE, IF SOME OF THAT GETS CLEANED OUT, SOME OF THE OTHER STUFF'S GONNA GROW BETTER.
'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE CEDAR TREES THAT ARE JUST GONNA DROP TICKS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE USEFUL AND HELPFUL FOR US.
AND IF YOU GO IN AND IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT THEM, YOU PROBABLY SEE THAT MANY OF THEM ARE, ARE DEAD OR CLOSE TO DEAD EXCEPT AT THE VERY TOP.
AND SO THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT WE REALLY WANT TO GET RID OF.
BUT SOME OF THE UNDERBRUSH WE WOULD NEED TO 'CAUSE EVEN AS THAT ONE
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PHOTO, I THINK UH, UH, THE COMMISSION KNOWS THAT IT IS BULL'S INTENTION TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE ATTRACTIVE TO, FOR THE RESIDENTS AND FOR THE TOWN.I DON'T KNOW IF I FULLY ANSWERED YOUR, YOUR QUESTION OR NOT, BUT MM-HMM
THE ACTUAL PHOTO OF THE PROPERTY.
THE BOTTOM LEFT IS, OR AN EXAMPLE.
THE BOTTOM LEFT IS, IS THE PROPERTY, UH, LOOKING AT THE ONE, EVEN AT THE BOTTOM.
I WAS THINKING EARLIER WITH THEIR TREES.
THEIR TREES, THEY'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH SUN, THEY'RE NOT GETTING ENOUGH SUNLIGHT AND ENOUGH WATER TO BE ABLE TO GROW.
UH, 'CAUSE THEY PLANTED THAT THEREFORE FOR SCREENING THEMSELVES.
AND THOSE AREN'T GROWING WELL AT ALL.
'CAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GETTING ANY SUNLIGHT BECAUSE OF HOW HEAVY AND DENSE THAT VEGETATION IS RIGHT NOW.
AND SO I CAN ONLY THINK THAT IF WE, THAT IF SOME OF THIS IS LIGHTENED UP SO IT DOES GET A LITTLE BIT MORE LIGHT THAT THEIR TREES THAT THEY'VE ALREADY PLANTED ARE GOING TO GET MORE DENT AS WELL, THAT IS GONNA HELP PROVIDE THAT SCREENING THAT EVERYONE THAT EVERYONE IS LOOKING FOR.
YOU HAVE TO IN ORDER TO HAVE DOGS ON THERE.
IN ORDER TO HAVE A DOG PARK, A LOT OF THAT HAS TO GO AWAY.
SOME OF, SOME OF THAT WILL HAVE TO BE, BUT IT'S A PRETTY LONG, IT, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY BIG DOG PARK.
UH, OVERALL, UH, ALLISON, WOULD YOU MIND CAN WE GO BACK? YEAH, THERE YOU GO.
SO IF YOU SEE, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA SKETCH IT ON THE OTHER SIDE HERE.
UH, IF YOU GET MY NON-STRAIGHT LINE, I MAY GET THE DOG PARK PRETTY CLOSE HERE.
THAT FENCE, I MAY HAVE MISSED THAT FENCE JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT IS THE DOG PARK.
AND WHAT WE WOULD DO WHEN WE, UH, WE ARE NOT GOING TO INSTALL THAT DOG PARK FENCE JUST DIRECTLY LINEAR.
THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN DO THAT AND KEEP, UH, AND KEEP SOME OF THE SPECIMEN TREES.
YOU CAN EVEN SEE WE EVEN ALREADY TOOK INTO ACCOUNT THE ONE THAT WAS HERE.
BUT EVEN AS WE GO ALONG THROUGH HERE, IF WE HAVE NICER TREES, WE'RE GONNA DODGE THAT, THAT FENCE ON THAT WEST LINE IN AND OUT.
UM, OBVIOUSLY STAYING ON OUR PROPERTY TO, TO DO SO, BUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE OUR INTENT TO, TO DO IT THAT WAY.
BUT IT'S A PRETTY LARGE, IT'S A, IT'S A PRETTY LARGE AREA.
SO ARE YOU GONNA CLEAR THE UNDERBRUSH INSIDE THE TREE PROTECTION FENCE AREA? SOME OF IT WOULD BE, SOME OF THE UNDERBRUSH WOULD NEED TO BE, WOULD NEED TO BE CLEARED.
THAT TREE PROTECTION FENCE TYPICALLY IF, UNLESS I'M MISTAKEN, UH, ALLISON, THAT IT'S TO PROTECT THOSE, THOSE LARGER TREES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THOSE EIGHT INCH PLUS TREES.
BUT IT'S ALSO THERE TO HELP US SO THAT WE CAN GO IN THERE AND SELECTIVELY DO THAT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SELECTIVELY CLEAR THAT OUT.
AND THEN LAST, I WOULD THINK THAT IF AT IF AFTER WE DID THAT AND WE PLANTED, IF WE NEEDED TO PUT A FEW MORE ADDITIONAL EVERGREENS OR SOMETHING ALONG THAT EDGE THAT WE COULD, THAT, THAT WE PROBABLY COULD, COULD DO THAT.
BUT DOING THAT, SHOWING IT ON THE PLAN NOW DOESN'T NECESSARILY PUT IT AT THE RIGHT LOCATION.
SO, BUT CHRISTINE, WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO WALK WITH STAFF AT THAT TIME AND IF THERE'S OBSERVATIONS THAT THE STAFF HAS THAT WE NEED SOME SUPPLEMENTAL PLANNING, I I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL WOULD WANT TO HANDLE THAT.
YEAH, I I'M JUST SAYING LIKE IT'S, WELL THAT'S, ARE YOU GUYS GONNA CUT, GET RID OF THE POISON IVY? UH, SOME OF IT, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY SOME OF IT.
BUT MOST PROBABLY SO, BUT UH, IT WOULDN'T, IT NEEDS TO BE TIDIED UP.
AND, UM, COME BACK WITH SOME MORE.
I I CAN'T RECOGNIZE MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE.
UM, DO YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION OR WE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR APPLICANT? WITH THIS ONE THERE WON'T BE A MOTION.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE, WHAT'S THE ELEVATION OF OF THAT? IS IT FLAT? AND I APOLOGIZE, LIKE I SAID.
BEFORE I DID A QUICK DRIVE THROUGH.
I'M GOING TO DRIVE THROUGH AGAIN, BUT IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND IF THERE'S AN ELEVATION DIFFERENCE.
THERE'S IT FLAT IN THERE OR THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ELEVATION DIFFERENCE ACROSS THAT, ACROSS THAT AREA THAT THERE'S NOT TON.
IF, IF, IF I MAY, UM, JASON IS CORRECT, THERE IS NOT.
UM, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE IS ABOUT A TWO FOOT ELEVATION DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UH, THIS COMMON OPEN SPACE AND THE DOG PARK.
SO THERE WILL NOT BE DRAINAGE FROM THIS SITE.
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UH, THIS SITE IS NOT GONNA BE ABOVE THE COMMON OPEN SPACE.THIS SITE IS, IS IT'S A VERY, UH, GRADUAL SLOPE DOWN, BUT THERE IS ABOUT A TWO FOOT DIFFERENCE.
WHAT IS THE COMMON OPEN SPACE? LIKE IS IT BRUSH OR IT'S THIS THE ONE RIGHT THERE.
SO VI VI VISUALLY THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE IS, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY, IS IS CLEANED OUT.
SO FROM A BUFFER PERSPECTIVE, THE BUFFER GOES AWAY AND THEN OTHER PLANTS ARE POTENTIALLY PLANTED IN THERE OR THEN AROUND THE, THE TRASH MORE THE COMPACTOR, THE THE COMPACTOR ENCLOSURE.
AND, AND I'LL JUST, UH, MIND Y'ALL LIKE EVEN LIKE WHAT THAT PICTURE WAS.
I MEAN IT IS A FULL MASONRY WALL.
UH, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S 11, LIKE 11 FOOT, TWO INCHES TALL AND FULLY, FULLY ENCLOSED.
AND THEN WE'LL BE LANDSCAPING, WE'LL BE LANDSCAPING AROUND IT.
I MEAN, WE CHOSE NOT TO, WHETHER OR NOT DON WOULD'VE, UH, LET US DO IT OR NOT.
UH, WE CHOSE NOT TO DO LIKE A, A CEDAR A A A CEDAR ENCLOSURE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, WELL HIGH ENOUGH TO TO TO BE ABOVE THE COMPACTOR HEIGHT.
WELL, SO THIS PROJECT WAS ALREADY APPROVED BACK IN APRIL, SO WE DON'T VOTE.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING YOU ALL NEED FROM US? UH, CHAIR? NO, WE, WE DON'T.
UH, AGAIN, THIS WAS JUST, UM, FOR YOU GUYS TO REVIEW AND TO MAKE THIS BODY AWARE THAT STAFF HAS REVIEWED AND STAFF DOES BELIEVE THAT THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN MET.
UM, AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE GOING TO THE BMA IN JULY, UH, FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT APPROVAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT THE TRASH COMPACTOR, THAT THERE WAS DEBRIS POSSIBLE LAYING AROUND.
WHO WANTS THAT? THAT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, BEING OFF IN A TERRIBLE AREA WHERE THEY DOT DON'T KEEP ANYTHING CLEAN.
IS THAT NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NOT TRASH LAYING AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, OR THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE TO MAKE SURE THAT BOTH, WE DO HAVE A CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM, OCCASIONALLY WE'LL, UM, SITE APARTMENTS IF THEIR TRASH IS PILING UP.
UM, I KNOW THE TOWN WE DON'T TAKE, WE THEY GET PRIVATE TRASH SERVICE, BUT CODES WILL CITE ANY BUSINESS THAT HAS A OVERFLOWING DUMPSTER.
WELL, THEY HAVE A DEFINITE POINT ABOUT THAT IF THAT IS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN AND IF IT'S HAPPENED IN OTHER PLACES IN THE CITY, THAT'S A CONCERN.
BUT THAT'S REALLY ON YOU GUYS.
YEAH, I I AND ON THE CITY, I COMPLETELY AGREE.
UM, DURING A LEASE, WE'RE IN A LEASE UP, SO PEOPLE ARE MOVING IN EVERY DAY AND UM, WE HAVE TO TEACH THEM WHERE TO PUT THEIR TRASH IF THEY'RE DOWN THE CHUTE OR SOME PEOPLE JUST THROW IT OVER THE TOP.
AND I THINK, UM, THE, THE SOME NE THE NEIGHBORS FLEW DRONE OVER OUR PROPERTY, WHICH IS ACTUALLY PRETTY INVASIVE, WE THINK AND COMPROMISE THE PRIVACY OF OUR RESIDENTS, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER MATTER.
BUT, UM, SO WE GET THAT AND WE, WE, THEY HAVE TO LEARN WHERE, WHERE TO PUT IT.
BUT UM, WE HAVE VALET TRASH, SO IT'S REALLY A MOVE IN THING.
AND, AND I DOUBT ANY OF US, WHEN WE MOVE SOMEWHERE, ALL OF OUR TRASH FARM MOVE IN CAN FIT EXACTLY IN THE CONTAINER THAT WE ROLL OUT TO THE STREET.
SO, UM, THAT'S JUST A MANAGEMENT THING.
AND, AND, AND WE WE'RE DEALING WITH IT AND PEOPLE LEARNING WHERE TO, WHAT TO DO, HOW TO OPERATE RESIDENTS.
WE ALLOWED, UH, THE RESIDENTS TO COME AND SPEAK, BUT NOTHING'S BEING DONE ABOUT THAT.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, THEY CAME TO SPEAK AND SHOW THEIR CONCERNS.
SO WHERE DOES THAT GO NOW? WELL, THEY'RE GONNA GO TO THE BMA, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO RETURN AND, AND STATE THEIR CONCERNS AGAIN? THEY'RE, THEY MAY HAVE, THEY'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THE BOARD MAYOR AND ALDERMAN MEETING ON THE 13TH.
BUT AT THAT TIME, GENERALLY THE BMA DOES NOT ADD CONDITIONS BECAUSE GENERALLY THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS ALREADY SIGNED BY THE TIME IT'S, IT'S BEFORE THE MEETING.
UM, STAFF WE ARE STILL REVIEWING, UM, AND PROVIDE, WILL BE PROVIDING COMMENTS FOR
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THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, UM, FOR THE JULY MEETING.AND SO I KNOW Y'ALL CAN'T ADD ANY CONDITIONS.
UM, AND I JUST, I STAFF DOES BELIEVE THAT THEY'VE MET ALL THEIR OF THE CONDITIONS AND THEY MEET THE DESIGN GUIDELINES AND THE ZONING AND ORDINANCE, BUT WE WERE ADDRESSED WITH RESIDENTS CONCERNS.
YEAH, SO THEY AREN'T, SO THERE REALLY WAS NO POINT FOR THEM TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
IT DOESN'T REALLY GO ANYWHERE.
UM, JAMIE MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BETTER THAN I CAN.
I WOULD, THE, ONE OF THE POINTS AND ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE UNDERSTOOD WHEN THE DRC LAST YEAR ASKED TO BRING THIS BACK, UH, THE DRC DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
THE RESIDENTS DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION, STAFF DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
SO I WOULD SUBMIT THAT INFORMATION IS SOMETHING NOW WE ALL LEARN A LOT MORE ABOUT WHAT THE PLANS ARE.
WE'VE GOT BETTER TREE PRESERVATION PLANS, WE'VE GOT BETTER LANDSCAPING PLANS, WE HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE CONTEXT.
WE KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT'S BEEN PLANTED ON THE HOA SIDE, WHAT THE SITUATION IS THERE.
UH, WE'VE WALKED THE PROPERTY WITH THE DEVELOPER AND WE UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE DOG PARK AND WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THEM ABOUT, UM, WHAT COULD HAPPEN THERE, UM, AND HOW ADDING ADDITIONAL PLANTS IN THE MIDDLE OF A FOREST IS NOT NECESSARILY THAT A HEALTHY THING, UH, FOR THE PLANTS.
UH, THEY, THEY COULD REALLY STRUGGLE TO SURVIVE.
SO I THINK THERE, THERE'S SOME AMBIGUITY ABOUT THAT, THAT BUFFER.
UH, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF THAT, BUT I DID HEAR THAT SOME ADDITIONAL, WE HAVE LEARNED MORE INFORMATION TONIGHT THAN WE DID COMING INTO THE, INTO THE BUILDING.
SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, UM, THAT SAME INFORMATION WILL BE CONVEYED TO THE BMA OR MINUTES WILL BE CONVEYED TO THE BMA ALONG WITH THE PLANS AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND.
AND IF THE RESIDENTS COME AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, OR IF THEY DECIDE TO SPEAK WITH THE BMA ABOUT THAT, UM, THEY'LL EXPRESS THEIR CONCERNS.
BUT THEY'LL ALSO HAVE THE, THE DIS WHAT WE'VE LEARNED HERE AT THIS MEETING ABOUT HOW ALL THAT FITS TOGETHER AND WHAT THE DEVELOPER'S INTENTIONS ARE FOR THAT.
SO THAT'S, I I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? I DO HAVE A COUPLE ANNOUNCE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
WELL, I THOUGHT THEY WERE ON HERE.
ANDREW, COULD YOU CLICK THIS OFF THE SCREEN? I'M NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENED TO THE, THE POWERPOINT.
I DON'T WANNA MESS ANYTHING UP, BUT I WILL SAY WE DID HAVE A OKAY STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING.
I HAD ANNOUNCEMENTS IN HERE JUST A SECOND.
WE A STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING ON JUNE 2ND.
I THINK MR. ALDERMAN ROBBINS YOU WERE THERE.
I THINK IT WAS A REALLY PRODUCTIVE MEETING.
SO WE'RE GETTING A LOT CLOSER TO, TO GETTING TO AN UPDATED LAND USE PLAN.
UM, ALSO NEXT MONTH WE WILL HAVE A NON-VOTING MEETING FOR SEVERAL BUILDINGS WITHIN THE THOMPSON MACHINE CAMPUS, WHICH IS OVER, UM, SYCAMORE AND NORTH OF 3 85.
THEY ARE SUBMITTING SEVERAL SITE PLANS IN THE FUTURE AND THEY HAVE SOME INTERESTING ELEVATIONS AND I THINK THEY WOULD, UM, BENEFIT FROM SOME DRC FEEDBACK.
AND SO WE'LL HAVE A UNINVITED NON-VOTING ITEM ON THAT DAY.
UM, AND THAT'S ALL I REALLY HAVE.
ALSO, WE WILL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, JAMIE, WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVE MEANS OF COMPLIANCE THAT WAS PASSED BY THE BMA ON THE 11.
SO THERE WILL BE, WE WERE DOING SOME TRAINING ON THAT.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING Y'ALL NEXT MONTH.