SOME GUYS. I SLID OFF THE ROAD. IT SHOULD BE ABOUT AN HOUR. YEAH. WHERE ARE YOU? IS IT 
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RIGHT WHERE? JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY. WELCOME. ANGELA. CALL THE ROLL, PLEASE. 
          DOCTOR GREENE, MR. BATES HERE. MR. SLED HERE, MR. ROZANSKI HERE, MISS FLETCHER, MR. GIVEN MR. DUBOSE HERE. MR. STAMPS, MR. COTTON HERE. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE MINUTES 
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TO APPROVE FROM OUR MAY 7TH MEETING. I'M ASSUMING EVERYONE LOOKED AT IT. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS OR CORRECTIONS? NO, SIR. THERE ARE NO ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA. DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED. MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, MR. SLED. YES. MR. BATES. YES. MR. ROZANSKI ABSTAINED. 
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MR. DUBOSE. YES. MR. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. DON JUST SAID THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE PUBLISHED AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. SO DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE? SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. ANGELA. 
          MR. SLEDD. YES. MR. ROZANSKI YES. MR. DUBOSE. YES. MR. BATES. YES. MR. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, THIS IS THE PART OF THE PROGRAM WE GET TO THAT IF YOU ARE A CITIZEN OF COLLIERVILLE AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, IT'S YOUR TIME. DON'T EVERYONE RUN TO THE PODIUM AT ONCE. OKAY, CITIZENS, COMMENTS ARE CLOSED. WE HAVE NO 
          [8.a  Case # 261049]
CONSENT AGENDA TO APPROVE. TONIGHT. WE HAVE A FORMAL AGENDA OF TWO ITEMS. AND CASE NUMBER 261049. I THINK THAT SHEILA'S GOING TO PRESENT THAT FOR US. AND I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF. YES. COMMISSIONER ROZANSKI LET THE RECORD REFLECT IS AS RECUSED HIMSELF ON THIS MATTER. GOOD EVENING. THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER SHEILA MCCAULEY, ALONG WITH TWO OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS, IS REQUESTING APPROVAL TO REZONE A 0.8 ACRE TRACT FROM R3 HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO T N TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE INTENT TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS AND ADDITIONS OR PURSUE RECONSTRUCTIONS OF THEIR EXISTING HOMES. THE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED SOUTH OF WEST SOUTH STREET AND EAST OF SYCAMORE ROAD, AND ALL ARE CURRENTLY ZONED R3. HERE IS A COMPARISON. MAPS SHOWING THE EXISTING ZONING AND THE PROPOSED ZONING FOR THE PROPERTIES. THE ZONING STANDARDS HIGHLIGHT HIGHLIGHTED IN THE. HIGHLIGHT THE DIFFERENCES IN THE TABLE BELOW BETWEEN THE TWO DISTRICTS IN TERMS OF LOT SIZE, LOT WIDTHS AND SETBACKS. THE ZONING DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR SMALLER SETBACKS THAN R3, BUT THE HTC COULD REQUIRE GREATER SETBACKS DURING THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS PROCESS TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE HISTORIC BUILDING PLACEMENTS ON THIS BLOCKS. THE PROPERTIES ARE WITHIN THE HISTORIC OVERLAY, BUT IS NOT THAT THEY ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTER, SO THE HTC WILL REVIEW ANY DEMOLITIONS OR ADDITIONS OR ANY NEW CONSTRUCTIONS ON THESE SITES AND THE NEARBY DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDE CENTRAL SQUARE, C, M BOOTH SUBDIVISION AND THE CARLTON SUBDIVISION. THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE WILL ONLY AFFECT THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTIES. THE USE OF THE PROPERTIES WILL CONTINUE TO REMAIN SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE FOUR AFFECTED PROPERTIES ARE 187, ONE, 81177 AND 171 WEST SOUTH STREET. EACH OF THEM HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME BUILT ON THEM. BETWEEN 1980, 1928 AND 1946. THE PROPOSED REZONING SUPPORTS THE GOAL OF THE 2010 DOWNTOWN SMALL AREA PLAN AND THE 2040 LAND USE PLAN BY ENCOURAGING COMPATIBLE SINGLE FAMILY INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITH TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AREA ALONG SOUTH 
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STREET. IF REZONE TO T N, THE DENSITY OF THE INTENDED DEVELOPMENTS WILL REMAIN. 4.9 UNIT DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, WHICH IS WITHIN THE RECOMMENDED DENSITY OF THE 2040 LAND USE PLAN. THE T N DISTRICT FORM BASED AND DESIGN STANDARDS ARE INTENDED TO ENSURE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENTS REMAIN CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC CHARACTER AND ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD PATTERN OF THE DOWNTOWN COLLIERVILLE. TRAFFIC IMPACTS, AS WELL AS WATER AND SEWER DEMAND WILL NOT INCREASE SINCE THE PROPERTIES WILL REMAIN AS ITS CURRENT USE, WHICH IS SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND THE CURRENT PROPERTIES ARE ALREADY WITHIN WELL ON TOWN UTILITIES. 
          THE EXAMPLE, THE EXAMPLE MOTION IS ON YOUR SCREEN, ALONG WITH THE APPLICANT'S NEXT STEPS, AND I. THAT ENDS STAFF PRESENTATION AND I AM OPEN AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. 
          ONE QUESTION. THE PROPERTY TO THE FARTHEST TO THE EAST. IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE THE PROPERTY IS CUT IN HALF. GOOD. OH THIS ONE. THE LOT LINES AREN'T AS ACCURATE, BUT WITH THE PROPER SURVEYOR IT WOULD. IT PROBABLY WOULD, EVEN IF IT IS SOMEWHAT ON THERE. BUT MAYBE THE APPLICANT COULD ADDRESS THAT MORE. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. OKAY. THANK YOU MA'AM. THE APPLICANT. SCOTT ROZANSKI TEXTURE 108 EAST MULBERRY. WHAT WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE PROPERTY LINES? THE PROPERTY DISPLAYED THEM ON OUR MAP TO THE FARTHEST TO THE EAST. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S HALF OF A LOT INSTEAD OF A FULL LOT. YES, BUT IT'S THEY'RE ALL LOTS. THEY'RE ALL FULL LOTS. OKAY. IT'S JUST IT JUST APPEARS SO NONCONFORMING. OKAY, THAT IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT IT PROBABLY WAS DIVIDED BEFORE THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, SPLIT. AND, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, IT'S, THEY'RE FULL LOTS. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S FOUR PROPERTIES AND WE ONLY HAVE 8/10 OF AN ACRE. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. ARE THEY INTENDED ON TEARING THEM DOWN. OR THERE'S THE 177 IS GOING TO BE TORE DOWN. THAT'S THE SECOND ONE IN FROM THE RIGHT. IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE. IT'S BEEN ADDED TO A NUMBER OF TIMES. IT'S NOT IN GOOD CONDITION. AND SO IT'S GOING TO BE BROUGHT DOWN AND THEN SHOULD START IMMEDIATELY TO PUT A NEW HOUSE ON IT. ACC APPROVED IT. YES. HD, HTC WILL HAVE TO APPROVE THE NEW. THERE WAS NO SENSE IN APPROVING A HOUSE PLAN UNTIL YOU GET THE ZONING. YEAH, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM. THE PROPERTIES IT WAS SHOWN TO BE 60FT, BUT WHEN THE SURVEYOR ACTUALLY MEASURED IT, IT'S ONLY 55FT WIDE. AND THE SAME THING WITH THE LENGTH, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE 150 SOME FEET LONG, AND IT'S ONLY 133FT LONG. SO THE SETBACKS BECAME REALLY RESTRICTIVE. ON TRYING TO GET A HOUSE ONTO THE PLOT LAND. SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SCOTT? THANK YOU SIR. DO I HEAR A MOTION COMMISSIONERS. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2026-04. SECOND MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. DUBOSE. YES. MR. BATES. YES. MR. SLED YES. MR. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT, NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO OUR SECOND ITEM, CASE NUMBER 260830. AND I 
          [8.b Case #260830]
BELIEVE ALLISON ALLISON'S GOING TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION. THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. SO THIS IS A A PD AMENDMENT FOR THE HINTON PRESERVED PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESHER. THE HINTON PRESERVE PD WAS APPROVED IN 2022. IT'S FOR 84 LOTS. AND THERE ARE GOING TO BE A MIXTURE OF R1 LOW DENSITY ZONING AND R 25 LOW DENSITY ZONING. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT THE ROADS AND THE SIDEWALKS WITHIN THE PD BE MADE PRIVATE AND GATED. WHEN THEY WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED, THEY WERE ALL GOING TO BE PUBLIC, THE APPLICANT STATES. THE AMENDMENT REQUEST IS IN RESPONSE TO MARKET DEMAND FOR 
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ENHANCED PRIVACY, SECURITY AND EXCLUSIVITY. THE APPLICANT ALSO STATES THAT THERE WILL BE BENEFITS TO THE TOWN AND THAT THOSE BENEFITS INCLUDE THE POTENTIAL FOR INCREASED PROPERTY TAX REVENUE AND THE REDUCED COST TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE. IF THEIR PRIVATE ROADS, THE TOWN WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO IN AND REPAIR THOSE ROADS. HOWEVER, EVEN IF THE ROADS. IF THIS IS APPROVED AND THE ROADS ARE PRIVATE, THE UTILITIES UNDERNEATH THOSE ROADS WOULD STILL BE PUBLIC. SO THE TOWN WOULD STILL INCUR THE COST OF MAINTAINING THOSE UTILITIES UNDERGROUND, WHICH WOULD BE WATER AND SEWER. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THIS AMENDMENT REQUEST STAFF DOES NOT FEEL LIKE THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE SETTING FOR A GATED COMMUNITY. FOR ONE, IT'S LOCATION. IT'S RIGHT ALONG MINOR ARTERIAL, A MINOR COLLECTOR, WHICH IS FLEMING ROAD. IT ABUTS A PUBLIC PARK, WHICH IS HINTON PARK. YOU CAN SEE HERE ON YOUR SCREEN THERE HAS BEEN A PLANNED PUBLIC PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION TO HINTON PARK AND TO FLEMING GARDENS, PLANNED FOR OVER 25 YEARS. AND THEN IT'S ALSO ADJACENT TO DEVELOPED SUBDIVISIONS WITH LOCAL ROAD CONNECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PLANNED FOR OVER 25 YEARS. ADDITIONALLY, MAKING THESE ROADS PRIVATE WOULD NOT MEET THE INTENT OF THE TOWN'S TRANSPORTATION OR LAND USE POLICIES, AND IT WOULD ALSO BE IT WOULD CONFLICT WITH THE PRIOR PLANNING COMMISSION IN BMA'S DECISIONS REGARDING THIS PD. AND ON TOP OF ALL OF THAT, JUST TO STATE THE OBVIOUS, IT WOULD CREATE FOR A LESS EFFICIENT PUBLIC SERVICES FOR THE RESIDENTS WITHIN THE AREA. SO THIS IS JUST TO GIVE US A SORT OF BROAD LOOK AT THE CONTEXT OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND JUST TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE FUTURE PLANNED ROAD CONNECTIONS THAT WOULD BE DISRUPTED IF THESE ROADS WERE TO BE MADE PRIVATE. SO YOU'RE LOOKING HERE AT THE LOCKWOOD SUBDIVISION, THERE'S 132 LOTS WITHIN THIS SUBDIVISION. THEY HAVE FRONTAGE ON HOUSTON LEVEE. THERE IS A REQUIRED ROAD CONNECTION HERE TO THE FUTURE TO FLEMING GARDENS. WHEN FLEMING GARDENS WAS WAS PLATTED OVER 25 YEARS AGO, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO STUB OUT THIS STREET HERE TO CONNECT TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN LOCKWOOD. THEY WERE ALSO REQUIRED TO STUB OUT HERE TO CONNECT TO FUTURE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA. ADDITIONALLY, THEY HAVE A. THEY HAVE A CONNECTION STREET HERE, WHICH IS MIDNIGHT SUN TO CONNECT TO FLEMING ROAD. AND THEN THEY'VE GOT THEIR TWO ACCESS POINTS ONTO SHELBY DRIVE. THESE CONNECTIONS, THIS WHOLE NETWORK OF CONNECTIONS IS PART OF THE TOWN'S VISION FOR THE INTERCONNECTED ROAD SYSTEM THAT WOULD HELP MANAGE TRAFFIC AND CONGESTION, AND I'LL HIT ON THIS A LITTLE BIT LATER. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE LAND SOUTH OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, IT'S UNDEVELOPED. AND THE TOWN PREDICTS THIS IS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAPPEN IN COLLIERVILLE IS IN THIS PART OF TOWN SOUTH OF SHELBY DRIVE. SO AGAIN, JUST TO RECAP, THE PD WAS APPROVED IN 2022. WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS THE PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED. AND AS I MENTIONED, THEY DO SHOW TWO PUBLIC PUBLIC STREET CONNECTIONS AS WELL AS THREE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS. THESE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS. 
          AND I'M SORRY YOU CAN'T SEE THE SIDEWALKS VERY WELL, BUT YOU CAN SEE HERE ON FLEMING ROAD AS PART OF THE TOWN'S FUTURE ROAD EXPANSION PLANS, FLEMING ROAD WILL BE WIDENED AND THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS ALONG FLEMING ROAD. WHEN THIS WAS APPROVED, THERE WAS A SIDEWALK CONNECTION THAT WAS REQUIRED, A PUBLIC SIDEWALK CONNECTION THAT WAS REQUIRED TO HOOK UP TO FLEMING ROAD. 
          ADDITIONALLY, SIDEWALKS PUBLIC SIDEWALKS WERE REQUIRED HERE THAT WOULD CONNECT TO THE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE IN FLEMING GARDENS. ON TOP OF THAT, THERE IS A PUBLIC PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION THAT WAS REQUIRED TO HOOK UP TO HINTON PARK. I'LL TOUCH ON THIS LATER AS WELL. 
          THERE IS A HINTON PARK MASTER PLAN THAT SHOWS MAJOR EXPANSIONS OF THE ATHLETIC FIELDS AND ADDITIONAL EXPANSIONS OF THE GREEN BELT. SO THIS IS WHY THIS PUBLIC PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION WAS REQUIRED IN HINTON PARK. BECAUSE THE GREENBELT RUNS RIGHT THROUGH THE PARK AS PART OF THE APPROVAL FOR THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS PRETTY COMMON. I KNOW THE COMMISSION WILL KNOW THIS TO HAVE A 31.5FT ROAD WITH 8.5FT PEDESTRIAN AND UTILITY EASEMENTS ON EITHER SIDE. THAT IS PRETTY TYPICAL FOR OUR PD VERSUS HAVING A 50 FOOT PLATTED RIGHT OF WAY. IT'S A 31.5FT PLATTED RIGHT OF WAY WITH THOSE 8.5FT PEDESTRIAN 
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CONNECTIONS ON EITHER SIDE. AS PART OF THE CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT IN 2022, CONDITION TEN STATES THAT THE PEDESTRIAN EASEMENTS SHALL REMAIN PUBLIC. 
          SO IF THIS IS APPROVED, THAT WOULD BE IN DIRECT CONTRADICTION TO WHAT THE TOWN STATED IN 2022. AS PART OF THE AMENDMENT REQUEST, THE APPLICANT DID MEET WITH STAFF PRIOR TO SUBMITTAL, WHICH IS VERY COMMON, AND STAFF SHARED OUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE EFFECTS THAT THIS WOULD HAVE ON OUR PLANNED ROAD CONNECTIVITY. SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT, THE APPLICANT DID PROPOSE SOME SOME GATE HOURS. AND THOSE HOURS ARE SHOWN HERE ON YOUR SCREEN. 
          STAFF DOES NOT FEEL THAT THIS IS SUFFICIENT FOR ONE, IF YOU CREATE ROADS AND SIDEWALKS THAT ACT AS QUASI PUBLIC DURING CERTAIN SEASONS, ON CERTAIN DAYS OF THE WEEK AND AT CERTAIN TIMES WILL ONLY CREATE NAVIGATION AND ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES. THIS IS VERY CONFUSING TO PEOPLE. I DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS GOING TO HELP THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT THEY CAN ACCESS THESE ROADS AT THESE CERTAIN TIMES, AND, YOU KNOW, IT CHANGES DEPENDING ON THE SEASON. IT CHANGES DEPENDING ON THE DAY. THAT IS NOT THAT IS NOT HELP WITH THE EFFICIENT MOVEMENT OF TRAFFIC. IN ADDITION, THESE HOURS WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR THE TOWN TO ENFORCE. THE STATED OPENING HOURS AND CLOSING HOURS ARE OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN'S REGULAR WORKING HOURS. THE TOWN WOULDN'T HAVE THE STAFF TO DEDICATE TO RANDOMLY SHOW UP TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE GATES ARE OPEN WHEN THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO REMAIN OPEN, AND I'LL HIT ON THIS AGAIN. BUT THESE HOURS CONFLICT WITH THE PARKS HOURS THAT THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. SO AS I'VE STATED, THE REMOVAL OF THIS PUBLIC ACCESS WILL HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION AS WELL AS PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION. SO WHEN WE USE THE IT MODEL, WHICH IS REALLY JUST A TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS MODEL THAT THEY USE TO CALCULATE AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS, WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, HINTON HINTON IS ESTIMATED TO GENERATE 800 VEHICLE TRIPS PER DAY. SO WITHOUT THESE PLANNED CONNECTIONS, ALL OF THESE TRIPS WILL BE REQUIRED TO GO ALONG FLEMING ROAD. THAT IS NOT CREATING THE EQUITABLE DISTRIBUTION OF TRAFFIC THAT THE TOWN ENVISIONS. AND IF ANYTHING, IT'S GOING TO CREATE CONGESTION HERE ALONG FLEMING ROAD. RIGHT NOW, THIS IS A FOUR WAY STOP CONSIDERING ALL OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ANTICIPATE HAPPENING SOUTH OF HERE. WE REALIZE THAT THIS FOUR WAY STOP IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO BE LONG TERM SOLUTION, BUT FOR NOW, THAT IS A FOUR WAY STOP. SO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LEAVE ALL OF THESE 800 TRIPS GETTING ONTO ONTO SHELBY DRIVE WILL HAVE TO USE FLEMING ROAD VERSUS CUTTING THROUGH FLEMING GARDENS. AND ADDITIONALLY, THIS WILL IMPACT THE CONNECTIVITY FROM FLEMING GARDENS AND LOCKWOOD. AGAIN, THESE TWO SUBDIVISIONS WERE APPROVED AND CREATED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE PART OF AN INTERCONNECTED ROAD SYSTEM. AND IF THIS IS APPROVED, WE ARE TAKING A BIG CHUNK OF THAT AWAY. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT FLEMING GARDENS AND HOW MANY LOTS ARE THERE, FLEMING GARDENS PRODUCES ABOUT 2500 AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS, AND LOCKWOOD WOULD CREATE ABOUT 1200 AVERAGE DAILY TRIPS. AGAIN, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A LOT, BUT WHEN YOU GIVE PEOPLE MULTIPLE OPTIONS, MULTIPLE ROUTES TO TAKE, YOU'RE NOT FORCING THEM ALL ONTO 1 OR 2 MAIN ROADS. YOU REALLY ARE SPREADING THAT TRAFFIC OUT AND YOU'RE CREATING LESS OF CONGESTION AND LESS OF A HEADACHE FOR ANY TRAVELERS WITHIN THIS AREA. IN ADDITION TO THE IMPACTS TO THE VEHICLES, THERE'S ALSO IMPACTS TO THE PEDESTRIANS. AS I MENTIONED, THERE ARE THREE PUBLIC PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS INSIDE HINTON, AND ONE OF THOSE INCLUDES THE CONNECTION TO THE PARK. WHEN THESE CONNECTIONS ARE COMBINED WITH THE FUTURE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ALONG FLEMING ROAD, THE INTENT IS IT WOULD PROVIDE A PERMANENT PUBLIC PEDESTRIAN ACCESS INTO THE PARK FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTS ALONG FLEMING ROAD. PART OF THE TOWN'S PLANS FOR FLEMING ROAD WOULD INCLUDE WIDENING IT TO A THREE LANE ROAD AND INSTALLING SIDEWALKS, AND THOSE SIDEWALKS WOULD CONNECT INTO HINTON PARK, WHICH WOULD THEN PROVIDE CONNECTION INTO HINTON PARK PRESERVE PD, WHICH WOULD THEN PROVIDE CONNECTION INTO HINTON PARK. AS I STATED, THE HOURS THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING FOR THE GATE, THOSE MAY 
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CONFLICT WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THE PARK AND CONVERTING. CONVERTING THIS INTO A GATED COMMUNITY CAN EFFECTIVELY PRIVATIZE WHAT WAS INTENDED TO BE A PUBLIC CONNECTION. THIS REALLY WOULD UNDERMINE THE BROADER COMMUNITY'S GOALS TO CREATE AN ACTIVE TRANSPORTATION AND RECREATION NETWORK. SO THESE ARE THIS IS A PAGE FROM THE 2040 LAND USE PLAN. AND THIS WE HAVE A WHOLE SECTION, A WHOLE CHAPTER DEDICATED TO TRANSPORTATION AND CONNECTIVITY. SO I WILL READ SOME OF THESE. THE POLICIES IN THIS SECTION WERE DERIVED FROM OUR TRANSPORTATION POLICY EFFORTS. AND WE STATE THAT THE TRANSPORTATION VISION OF THE FUTURE OF COLLIERVILLE IS A CONGESTED, MANAGED, INTERCONNECTED, MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM AND THAT A STRUCTURE OF SIDEWALKS THAT CONNECT ALL SIGNIFICANT POINTS WITHIN THE TOWN SO THAT PEDESTRIANS CAN HAVE SAFE ACCESS TO SCHOOLS, COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES AND BUSINESSES. A GREEN BELT NETWORK, INTERCONNECTING NEIGHBORHOODS, SCHOOLS, PARKS AND COMMERCIAL AREAS, AND SERVING AS AN ALTERNATIVE FORM OF TRANSPORTATION. WE ALSO WANT NEIGHBORHOODS TO PROVIDE SIDEWALKS AS AN ALTERNATIVE MODE OF TRAVEL, LINKING ALL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SCHOOLS, PARKS, AND CHURCHES. AND WE ALSO WANT TO PROVIDE FOR THE INTERCONNECTION OF NEW NEIGHBORHOODS WITH EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS. AND SO WHEN WE LOOK HERE ON THE RIGHT, THIS TOP IMAGE IS SHOWING WHAT WE DON'T WANT, WHICH IS REALLY ONE ACCESS POINT. NONE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CONNECTED. ALL OF THE TRAFFIC HAS TO FLOW ONTO THESE COLLECTORS, CREATING CONGESTION. WHAT WE DO WANT IS A COMMUNITY WHERE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS ARE CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER. VEHICLES AND PEDESTRIANS HAVE MULTIPLE CONNECTIONS, MULTIPLE ROUTES TO TAKE TO GET AROUND. AND THIS IS HOW WE CREATE AN EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT AND EQUITABLE TRANSPORTATION NETWORK. THIS IS NOT THIS IS THE OPPOSITE. SO THESE ARE FROM OUR SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS. AGAIN, WE HAVE A WHOLE SECTION DEDICATED TO CONNECTIVITY. DEVELOPMENT SHALL PROVIDE ROADWAYS THAT ARE PERMANENTLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, EXISTING STREETS AND ADJACENT OR ADJOINING AREAS SHALL BE CONTINUED IN NEW SUBDIVISIONS. SUBDIVISIONS SHALL REQUIRE SUFFICIENT EXTERNAL ACCESS POINTS TO THE EXISTING OR FUTURE ROAD NETWORK. NOW, THERE ARE SOME EXCEPTIONS. WAIVERS CAN BE GRANTED IN EXTREME CASES WHERE LIMITED FRONTAGE, NATURAL FEATURES OR SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES PRECLUDE THE REQUIRED CONNECTIONS. SO I DO WANT TO STATE AS A POLICY, COLLIERVILLE IS NOT ANTI GATED COMMUNITY IN ALL CIRCUMSTANCES. 
          AS WE KNOW, KAVAL HAS GATED COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE SEVEN GATED COMMUNITIES. BUT IN AN AREA LIKE THIS, WHICH IS THIS IS WHERE THE GATED COMMUNITY WOULD BE IN AN AREA LIKE THIS WITH HIGH POTENTIAL FOR FUTURE GROWTH. WE WANT TO KEEP THESE ROADS CONNECTED AND WE WANT TO KEEP TRAFFIC FLOWING. ALL OF THIS ZONED FAR, THIS IS WHAT HINTON WAS ZONED UP UNTIL A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN IT WAS REZONED, AND NOW IT'S GOING TO BE 84 LOTS. THERE IS ROUGHLY, I THINK, TEN ACRES FOR SALE RIGHT NOW RIGHT HERE ACROSS FROM HINTON. ALL OF THIS IS DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL. THE TOWN HAS A FUTURE ROAD CONNECTION HERE. SO WE REALLY DO ENVISION DEVELOPMENT AND INTERCONNECTIVITY HAPPENING ALL ALONG THIS AREA. AND IF WE GET THIS OFF, THAT WOULD TRULY WOULD DISRUPT THE TOWN'S FUTURE PLANS. SO AGAIN, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENY RESOLUTION 2610. THAT WOULD MAKE THE ROADS AND SIDEWALKS GATED AND PRIVATE, AND FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. THE SUBDIVISION IS ALONG A MINOR COLLECTOR. THE SUBDIVISION ABUTS A PUBLIC PARK WITH PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS THAT ARE INTENDED FOR PUBLIC USE. THE SUBDIVISION IS ADJACENT TO A DEVELOPED SUBDIVISION WITH ROAD CONNECTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PLANNED FOR OVER 25 YEARS. THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT MEET THE INTENT OF THE TOWN'S TRANSPORTATION AND LAND USE POLICIES, AND THE PROPOSAL DOES NOT COMPLY WITH PRIOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND BMA DECISIONS REGARDING THE CONDITION THAT THE THE PEDESTRIAN EASEMENTS BE REMAIN PERMANENTLY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. SO THERE IS A MOTION ON YOUR SCREEN. AS YOU SEE, THE MOTION IS IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. 
          THE MOTION IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION. WE HAVE BEEN ADVISED BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY THAT MOTION SHOULD ALWAYS BE MADE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE. BUT AGAIN, IT IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DENY THE RESOLUTION REQUEST, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. MCCARTY. GOOD 
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EVENING. JOHN MCCARTY. 198 PROGRESS ROAD HERE IN COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE. I'M WITH MCCARTY GRANBERRY ENGINEERING. WE'VE GOT THE MAGNOLIA HOMES TEAM WITH US HERE, THE DEVELOPER AND THE HOME BUILDER AND THE DEVELOPMENT. CLEARLY, ALLISON IS NOT A FAN OF OUR PROPOSAL, BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION TO FIND OUT IF THERE IS SOME COMMON GROUND TO REACH, AN AGREEMENT TO MOVE IT FORWARD. SOME OF THE THE MAIN REASONS WHITNEY WITH MAGNOLIA HOMES IS GOING TO GO OVER HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. IT'S A IT'S A MARKETING SALES DRIVEN ISSUE. A LOT OF THEIR HOME BUYERS, THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF LISTENING TO THEM, HEARING WHAT THEY WANT, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR. THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE DEVELOPMENTS RECENTLY APPROVED IN GERMANTOWN WITH GATED COMMUNITIES AND A SIMILAR MARKET HOME STYLE, AND MAGNOLIA HAS BEEN GETTING A LOT OF PRESSURE FROM FOLKS THAT WANT TO BUY MAGNOLIA HOME TO HAVE THE SAME THING. WE'VE WORKED ON SEVERAL OF THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS IN GERMANTOWN. ONE OF THEM, WE DID NOT DEVELOP GATED AND THEN WENT BACK THROUGH THE CITY PROCESS IN GERMANTOWN AND DID CONVERT IT TO GATED. THE LAST ONE WE DID ACTUALLY DID HAVE A STUB STREET THAT STUBBED INTO IT THAT GERMANTOWN ALLOWED US NOT TO CONNECT INTO GOING OVER SOME OF THE THE ISSUES FROM A TRANSPORTATION STANDPOINT, THE THE FLEMING GARDENS TO THE WEST OF US. THERE ARE A FEW HOUSES THAT ARE IN THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER THAT IF WE DID CONNECT TO THEM, THEY WOULD HAVE A SLIGHTLY SHORTER DRIVE TO GET OUT. BUT THOSE HOUSES HAVE BEEN IN PLACE FOR OVER 20 YEARS, AND THEY'VE DEFINITELY GOT USED TO THE DRIVE THAT THEY DO MAKE. THEY ALSO, WITH THE RECENT CONNECTION OF LOCKWOOD PHASE THREE AND FOUR TO THE WEST, HAVE THE HAVE MULTIPLE ROUTES. THERE WAS ALREADY THREE CONNECTION POINTS OUT OF FLEMING GARDENS. I DID SPEAK TO ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES OVER AT GRANT THAT MANAGED THE LOCKWOOD. HE TOLD ME THAT THERE WAS NO INTENTIONS OF THEM EVER GETTING LOCKWOOD, THAT THAT WASN'T THE STYLE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY WOULD PLAN TO EVER COME IN AND GATE AND THAT WE COULD SAY THAT TONIGHT. HE ACTUALLY. I ASKED HIM TO COME TO THE MEETING. HE SAID HE WOULD BE FISHING OUT BACK IF Y'ALL KNOW CORBIN. HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO BRING THE FISH UP TO SHOW IF HE CAUGHT IT. I HOPE HE DOES. THE. SOME OF THE POINTS THAT ALLISON MADE ARE DEFINITELY CORRECT ABOUT WHAT THE LAND USE MANUAL SAYS, BUT I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS TO HAVE GATED PRIVATE STREETS, BUT TO HAVE THEM OPEN DURING THE DAY. THERE HAVE BEEN CONVERSATIONS BACK AND FORTH WITH THE STAFF OF WHAT WERE THE HOURS AND THE SHIFT. PROBABLY THE EASIEST WAY TO ADDRESS IT. IF WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE GATES AND HAVE THEM ACTUATED ON HOURS, WHATEVER THE HOURS OF HINTON PARK ARE, IS THE HOURS WE'D HAVE THOSE GATES TO OPERATE. SO IF THE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION, WHICH IS THE ONLY REAL LIMITING FACTOR, WOULD BE THE TIMING. IF HINTON PARK'S OPEN, YOU CAN COME THROUGH OUR GATE, YOU CAN COME THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU CONNECT TO IT. I DO BELIEVE FLEMING GARDENS DOES HAVE A PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION AS WELL TO IT. I'VE NEVER WALKED THROUGH THAT CONNECTION. ALL OF THE THE OTHER ASPECTS THE FIRE ACCESS, THE UTILITY ACCESS, THE TOWN OF CARNIVAL'S EMERGENCY SERVICES ARE WELL EQUIPPED TO TO USE GATES THAT THEY DO IN THESE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS, EVEN IF THEY'RE GOING TO CUT THROUGH TO THE OTHER SIDE. ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, UTILITY FOLKS CAN DO THAT AS WELL. AS FAR AS OTHER ASPECTS OF IT, WE DO PERSONALLY THINK THAT THERE'S NO IMPACT TO THE TRAFFIC ON FLEMING ROAD. I THINK A FEW OF Y'ALL ARE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHEN WE BROUGHT THE PROJECT THROUGH AND EVEN ACTUALLY REDUCED THE WIDTH OF FLEMING ROAD, IT'S THE LEAST TRAVELED STREET IN THE TOWN OF CARNIVAL. EVERY TIME I WAS OUT ON THE PROJECT ON SITE, THERE WAS NEVER A CAR THAT PASSED IT. THERE'S SOME NOW BECAUSE OF THE BRIDGE OUT ON HOLMES ROAD. SOME PEOPLE CUT THROUGH THERE. IT IS STILL THE LEAST TRAVELED STREET. 
          IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT THREE THREE LANE SECTION, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A FLEMING ROAD IN FRONT OF US. COMPARED TO THE SOUTH, TWO THIRDS OF PETERSON LAKE THAT HAS A LOT MORE HOUSES ON IT THAN THAT. TRAFFIC IS ACTUALLY NOT A PROBLEM, IS A GOOD WAY TO THINK ABOUT IT. I'M GOING TO LET WHITNEY SPEAK TOWARDS THE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SHE CAN BRING FROM THE REAL ESTATE SIDE. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, FOR THE RECORD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. I'M SORRY. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS REQUEST. 
          MY NAME IS WHITNEY HARVEY WITH MAGNOLIA HOMES VICE PRESIDENT OF SALES AND MARKETING AT 193 CARTWRIGHT FARM LANE HERE IN COLLIERVILLE. MAGNOLIA HOMES HAS BEEN BUILDING IN COLLIERVILLE AND THE SURROUNDING AREA FOR NEARLY FOUR DECADES. DURING THAT TIME, WE HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF HELPING HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES CHOOSE COLLIERVILLE AS THEIR HOME. MANY OF THOSE FAMILIES ARE RELOCATING FROM OTHER STATES AND MAJOR METROPOLITAN MARKETS, SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF COLLIERVILLE REPUTATION FOR QUALITY OF LIFE, EXCELLENT 
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SCHOOLS, BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOODS, AND STRONG COMMUNITY VALUES. AS SOMEONE WHO HEARS FROM POTENTIAL BUYERS AND CITIZENS EVERY DAY, I WANTED TO SHARE PERSPECTIVE FROM THE FRONT LINES OF THE HOUSING MARKET. MAGNOLIA HOMES IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF ATTRACTING RELOCATION BUYERS TO COLLIERVILLE THROUGH OUR MARKETING, SALES AND REFERRAL NETWORKS. BECAUSE OF THOSE RELATIONSHIPS, WE ARE OFTEN AMONG THE FIRST TO HEAR WHAT PROSPECTIVE RESIDENTS WANT BEFORE THEY EVER MOVE HERE. ONE OF THE MOST COMMON REQUESTS THAT WE HEAR FROM RELOCATION BUYERS IS INTEREST IN GATED COMMUNITIES. IN MANY OF THE MARKETS, THEY ARE RELOCATING FROM. CONTROLLED ACCESS NEIGHBORHOODS ARE A STANDARD HOUSING OPTION AND AN EXPECTATION FOR MANY EXECUTIVE MOVE UP AND EMPTY NESTER BUYERS. 
          THEIR MAIN DESIRE IS ADDITIONAL PRIVACY, THEN SAFETY AND EXCLUSIVITY. PERHAPS MOST RELEVANT TO THIS DISCUSSION, RESEARCH CONDUCTED RIGHT HERE IN SHELBY COUNTY BY UNIVERSITY OF MEMPHIS PROFESSORS FOUND THAT HOMES IN GATED COMMUNITIES CONSISTENTLY COMMITTED HIGHER VALUES THAN COMPARABLE HOMES IN NON GATED ONES, AND CONTRIBUTED TO NOTABLE RISING PROPERTY VALUES IN PROXIMITY AS WELL OVER TIME. IN ADDITION, IT HAS BEEN FOUND THAT RESIDENTS PURCHASING IN GATED COMMUNITIES TEND TO MAKE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENTS IN THEIR HOMES AND GREATER COMMUNITIES, LEADING TO STRONGER SUPPORT FOR LOCAL SCHOOLS, BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS. WHILE GATED COMMUNITIES ARE NOT NEW TO COLLIERVILLE, THEY REMAIN A RELATIVELY LIMITED HOUSING OPTION COMPARED TO THE DEMAND WE SEE TODAY. THIS WOULD BE A BENEFIT TO THE TOWN AND THAT IT WOULD PROVIDE ANOTHER HOUSING CHOICE FOR FAMILIES WHO ARE CONSIDERING COLLIERVILLE AS THEIR NEXT HOME. IN MY OPINION, A HEALTHY HOUSING MARKET OFFERS A VARIETY OF OPTIONS FOR DIFFERENT LIFESTYLES AND PREFERENCES, AND THIS HELPS ENSURE COLLIERVILLE REMAINS COMPETITIVE WHILE CONTINUING TO UPHOLD THE HIGH STANDARDS OUR COMMUNITY EXPECTS. IMPORTANTLY, WE DO RESPECT AND UNDERSTAND YOUR NOTES ON CONNECTIVITY. 
          THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT INTENDED TO ELIMINATE CONNECTIVITY OR CREATE ANY BARRIERS. THE MANAGED ACCESS APPROACH PRESERVES PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR ACCESS DURING KEY, DAYTIME AND STATED PARK HOURS, WHILE ALLOWING RESIDENTS ACCESSIBILITY DURING EVENING HOURS. WE BELIEVE THIS CREATES A THOUGHTFUL BALANCE BETWEEN CONNECTIVITY AND HOMEOWNER PREFERENCE. I WOULD ALSO RESPECTFULLY NOTE THAT HERON PRESERVE IS FIRST AND FOREMOST A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. RESIDENTS WILL CONTINUE TO UTILIZE FLEMING ROAD, SHELBY DRIVE, HINTON PARK AND THE SURROUNDING TRANSPORTATION NETWORK, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THE COMMUNITY IS GATED. ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT BENEFITS FOR THE TOWN IS THAT THE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS WITHIN HIDDEN PRESERVE WOULD BE UP TO TOWN OF COLLIERVILLE CODES AND STANDARDS, BUT WOULD BE PRIVATELY OWNED AND MAINTAINED, REDUCING FUTURE MAINTENANCE OBLIGATIONS AND LONG TERM INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS FOR THE TOWN AND ITS RESIDENTS. 
          SIGNIFICANT COSTS WOULD REMAIN WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS. RATHER THAN BECOMING FUTURE PUBLIC LIABILITIES. AT MAGNOLIA HOMES, WE HAVE ALWAYS SOUGHT TO BE MORE THAN BUILDERS. WE STRIVE TO BE LONG TERM PARTNERS IN HELPING COLLIERVILLE GROW THOUGHTFULLY AND RESPONSIBLY, AND WE ARE PROUD SUPPORTERS OF OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS, CHARITIES, BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS. AS SOMEONE THAT HEARS DIRECT FROM PROSPECTIVE RESIDENTS EVERY DAY, I CAN CONFIRM WE ARE REQUESTING SOMETHING BUYERS ARE ALREADY ASKING FOR. WE ARE STRIVING TO ENCOURAGE PROSPECTIVE NEW CITIZENS TO CHOOSE US AND THE TOWN OF COLLIERVILLE VERSUS ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY, LARGELY GERMANTOWN, BASED ON THIS GATED OPTION. AS JOHN MENTIONED RECENTLY, FIVE COMPETING NEWER NEIGHBORHOODS IN GERMANTOWN HAVE GONE BACK AND RECEIVED APPROVAL FOR GATES TO BE IMPLEMENTED. TO GAIN AN ADVANTAGE, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION AS WE BELIEVE THIS REQUEST ALIGNS WITH MAGNOLIA'S LONG STANDING COMMITMENT TO BEING A RESPONSIBLE COMMUNITY PARTNER AND REPRESENTS A BALANCED SOLUTION THAT BENEFITS FUTURE RESIDENTS, CURRENT HOMEOWNERS, THE TOWN, AND THE LONG TERM STRENGTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. ONE THING WE KNOW IS THAT BUYERS HAVE MORE CHOICE THAN EVER BEFORE. OUR GOAL IS TO ENSURE COLLIERVILLE REMAINS THE COMMUNITY THEY CHOOSE. THANK YOU. Y'ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WE WOULD LOVE TO TRY TO. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY DATA STATING WHAT A GATED SUBDIVISION PROPERTY VALUE IS OVER A NON GATED SUBDIVISION? IT IS HARD TO TELL IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS. I ASKED REGGIE THIS QUESTION. HE THOUGHT AT LEAST $50,000 MORE ON THE HOME VALUE. SOME OF THE ONES WE'VE SEEN IN GERMANTOWN ARE ACTUALLY MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT. MOST PEOPLE ARE SCARED TO PROMISE ANY NUMBERS IN FRONT OF A PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY MEET, AND SOMEBODY COULD COULD POINT BACK AT THEM. I WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THAT. WHAT ABOUT ANY ANNUAL EXPENSE THAT MAYBE THE CITY WOULD NOT INCUR BECAUSE IT'S GATED? THE STREET MAINTENANCE IS VERY EXPENSIVE. I THINK IF YOU EVER BUG OUR ALDERMAN ABOUT THE WHY DO WE NOT PAY MORE STREETS? THEY WILL QUICKLY REMIND US HOW EXPENSIVE IT IS AND THE ROAD MILES THAT THEY DO ADD. I THINK THEY ADDED THREE MORE MILLION DOLLARS THIS YEAR. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER OFF THE 
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TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I CAN TELL YOU AT TODAY'S VALUE IT'S PROBABLY, I'M GUESSING ON THIS, DON'T HOLD ME TO IT. SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 150 AND $225,000 TO RESURFACE THE STREETS IN THEIR IN TODAY'S VALUE. AND YOU EXTRACT THAT OUT OVER TIME, THAT NUMBER WILL GO UP EXPONENTIALLY. IS THAT THE ONLY EXPENSE THAT THE CITY WOULD INCUR? SO, NO, THERE ARE LIKE THE STREET SWEEPING AND OTHER MINOR THINGS LIKE THAT. THE STORM DRAINAGE AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT WOULD BE INCURRED AS WELL IF THERE WERE PRIVATE. THE THE WATER AND SEWER WOULD REMAIN PUBLIC AND THE HOA WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT. CORRECT. THE OTHER ONE, THE STREET LIGHTS, THE STREET LIGHTS WOULD BE PRIVATE IF THEY'RE ON PRIVATE STREETS OF THE TOWN WOULD NOT PAY THE MLG AND W LEASE ON THOSE, AND WE WOULD INSTALL PRIVATE STREET LIGHTS THAT WE WOULD PAY FOR. THE QUESTION FOR MR. MCCARTY, IN ADDITION TO THE. ARE YOU GOING TO FENCE THE OLD PROPERTY IN. OR ARE YOU GOING TO WALL THE PROPERTY IN. IT'S THE SAME FENCE THAT WAS PROPOSED DURING THE ORIGINAL DEVELOPMENT. WE DO HAVE FENCES ON IT. I BET DON COULD HELP ME WITH REMEMBERING WHAT THOSE WERE. STANDARD LIKE WROUGHT IRON STYLE ALONG THE FLEMING LOW ELEVATION. THE. THE WEST SIDE AND THE NORTH SIDE WAS WOOD, MATCHING SOME OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTIAL FENCES THAT WERE BACK THERE. AND I THINK WE GAVE THE HOMES ALONG HINTON PARK THE OPTION. IF THEY WANTED A FENCE, THEY COULD DO THE WROUGHT IRON STYLE THAT OPENED AT THE PARK, BUT I THINK WE LIMITED THEM, NOT BEING ABLE TO PUT UP A PRIVACY FENCE AGAINST THE PARK SIDE. I'M GOING FOR FLEMING ROAD. YEAH, YEAH, DEFINITELY. NO, NO TALL, YOU KNOW, FENCES TO ACTUALLY BLOCK THE VIEW TO FLEMING ROAD. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. MCCARTHY. THANK YOU JOHN. THANK YOU. DO I HEAR A MOTION, COMMISSIONERS. GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, CHAIR, IF IF I MAY, I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT STATED THAT FLEMING IS THE LEAST TRAVELED ROAD IN COLLIERVILLE. THAT MAY BE TODAY. BUT AGAIN, AS WE POINTED OUT, THE MAJORITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT COLLIERVILLE THINKS THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IS GOING TO BE IN THIS PORTION OF COLLIERVILLE. SO RIGHT NOW IS, IS FLEMING NOT WELL TRAVELED? I WOULD CONCUR, THAT'S CORRECT. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO BE 25 YEARS FROM NOW. AND THAT IS NOT HOW THE TOWN IS PLANNING ON SPENDING OUR TRANSPORTATION DOLLARS. WE ARE ANTICIPATING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A LOT MORE TRAFFIC IN THIS AREA. 
          THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PLANS TO TO WIDEN. FLEMING WE HAVE PLANS TO WIDEN SHELBY DRIVE. WE HAVE PLANS TO CONNECT HOUSTON LEVEE, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED SOMETIME IN PROBABLY THE NEAR FUTURE. I ALSO WANTED TO STATE, I KNOW THE APPLICANT STATED THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO CREATE BARRIERS, BUT THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. THEY ALSO SAID, YOU KNOW, WE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY VALUES WOULD GO UP AND ROAD COSTS WOULD GO DOWN. WE CANNOT PUT A MONETARY VALUE ON CREATING INTERCONNECTED NEIGHBORHOODS SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE CHOICE AND CREATING INTERCONNECTED PEDESTRIAN PATHWAYS. WE CANNOT PUT A MONETARY VALUE ON THAT. AND IT IS STAFF'S BELIEF THAT IF WE MAKE A SHORT TERM DECISION TO SAVE MONEY ON ROAD COSTS, WE'RE GOING TO REGRET THAT IN 25, 30 YEARS, WHEN ALL OF THIS IS DEVELOPED AND WE'RE STUCK WITH QUITE A BIT OF CONGESTION ON SOME OF THESE MAIN ROADS. ALSO, I DID WANT TO NOTE, IF WE LOOK HERE, WHERE WE LOOK AT WHEN WAIVERS MAY BE GRANTED, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MONETARY VALUE OF OF ANYTHING. AND I DO WANT TO PULL THIS UP. THIS IS HINTON PARKS MASTER PLAN I MENTIONED. I SAID I WAS GOING TO MENTION THIS, SO THIS IS THE NORTHERN PART THAT BUTTS UP TO THE HINTON PRESERVE PD. YOU CAN SEE HERE THERE'S GOING TO BE THREE ADDITIONAL ATHLETIC FIELDS RIGHT NOW. THE PARK CLOSES AT 8 P.M. BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT PARKS LIKE JOHNSON PARK, WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF BALL GAMES GOING ON, JOHNSON PARK DOESN'T CLOSE UNTIL 11 P.M. SO IN THE FUTURE, WHEN COLLIERVILLE IMPLEMENTS OUR MASTER PLAN, THERE IS THE POTENTIAL THAT HINTON PARK HOURS COULD GO UNTIL 9:00 10:00, AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THE GATES ARE APPROVED, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE PEDESTRIAN GATES OPEN 30 MINUTES BEFORE THE PARK OPENS, 
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AND REMAIN OPEN 30 MINUTES AFTER THE PARK CLOSES. SO IF WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE THE FUTURE HOURS OF HINTON PARK CHANGE, IT IS GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT THAT THE GATE HOURS ALSO CHANGE. SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY BE GETTING INTO A SITUATION WHERE THE GATES ARE REQUIRED TO REMAIN OPEN UNTIL 11:30 P.M. AND OPEN AT 5:30 A.M. I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IS GOING TO SATISFY THE MARKET THAT MAGNOLIA IS WANTING TO ATTRACT. IF THEY'RE WANTING TO ATTRACT A MARKET THAT WANTS A GATED COMMUNITY, MY ASSUMPTION IS THAT THEY WANT IT GATED THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME, NOT JUST FOR 5.5 HOURS. AND AGAIN, THAT'S ASSUMING THAT THE HINTON PARKS HOURS WILL LIKELY STAY OPEN LATER AGAIN TO ACCOMMODATE FUTURE GAMES HERE. SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE A SHORT TERM DECISION THAT IN THE LONG TERM, WE REGRET BECAUSE IT GETS US IN A PICKLE AND WE THROW 25 YEARS OF PLANNING OUT THE DOOR FOR, AGAIN, A, A SHORT TERM FINANCIAL DECISION. THANK YOU CHAIR THANK YOU. MA'AM. DO I HEAR A MOTION, COMMISSIONER? DISCUSSION. I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE. SECOND, MA'AM, DO I HEAR DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TWO OF US ARE ON THE COMMITTEE FOR THE 2050 PLAN, AND ALL THE PROPERTY DOWN SOUTH OF HOLMES ROAD IS BEING PROJECTED TO GO TN. WHICH LEADS TO THE THING ABOUT MORE TRAFFIC, MORE THINGS. 
          AND I GUESS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WOULD HAVE, AND I DO HAVE FOR THE TEAM IS WHAT IS THE GOAL OF HAVING THE GATED COMMUNITY? I MEAN, THE GOAL IS HAVING IT EXCLUDED FROM EVERYBODY ELSE. AND IS THAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IN COLLIERVILLE? I MEAN, I YOU KNOW, I LIVE OVER OFF OF ASHTON WOODS AND, YOU KNOW, WE YOU WIND BACK THROUGH THE PROPERTIES AND YOU CAN STAY OFF OF COLLIERVILLE, ARLINGTON. AND IT'S NOT LIKE YOU HAVE MASSIVE PEOPLE SPEEDING THROUGH. OH, UNLESS THEY'RE GOING TO THE SCHOOL IN THE MORNING. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT. AND THEN WE, I WAS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN 22 WHEN WE PUT THESE REGULATIONS IN. AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HERE WERE TO. I JUST DON'T SEE WHY THIS IS NECESSARY. AND DO WE WANT. WE. THE REFERENCE WENT BACK TO MEMPHIS AND GERMANTOWN, BASICALLY ON THE EAST SIDE OR WEST SIDE. WHAT DO WE WANT TO HAVE A BUNCH OF GATED COMMUNITIES BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE LEADS TO ANOTHER. AND IF THAT BECOMES THE THE NORM, THEN YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE LITTLE ISOLATED AREAS. AND SO I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS. OTHER DISCUSSION FROM A BUILDER'S STANDPOINT. I MEAN, I SEE THE MARKETABILITY OF IT. AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, MEMPHIS HAS ITS OWN SAFETY CONCERNS. SO I LIVE IN A GATED COMMUNITY. 
          ONE OF THE REASONS I LIVE, I MOVED THERE, SO I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR IT AND I UNDERSTAND THE CONNECTIVITY ISSUES AND MAYBE SOME MINOR TRAFFIC ISSUES. I THINK THEY'VE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS WITH THE HOURS OF THE GATE TO MAYBE AMEND TO WHAT YOU SAID, 30 BEFORE AND 30 AFTER. I'M SURE THEY PROBABLY WOULD WOULD DO THAT. I KNOW IT HELPS FOR MARKETABILITY AND SAFETY CONCERNS, WHETHER IT'S 5.5 HOURS, IT IS FIVE AND A HALF SLEEPING HOURS THAT PEOPLE FEEL LIKE MAYBE THEY'RE NOT AS AWARE AS THEY WOULD BE DURING DAYLIGHT AND, AND MORE AWAKE HOURS, BUT SO I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF IT BECAUSE I'M A FAVORITE. JUST AS, AS I KNOW I LIVE IN ONE AND I THAT'S THE REASON I LIVE THERE. I HEAR OTHER DISCUSSION. GOT A QUESTION. IS THIS A VIABLE DEVELOPMENT WITH OR WITHOUT THE GATED ASPECT OF IT? IT IS VIABLE. BOTH DIRECTIONS. OKAY. I, I TEND TO WALK ABOUT FOUR MILES A DAY. I KNOW I DON'T LOOK LIKE IT, BUT I DO LOVE THE SCREEN. SO I DO WINE THROUGH NEIGHBORHOODS. WHEN I DO THAT. 
          AND THE CONNECTIVITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE I CAN GO FROM MY NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET TO THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD AND GET MY THREE AND A HALF TO FOUR MILES IN WITHOUT THE IMPAIRMENT OF A GATE. SO FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD PROBABLY NOT BE IN FAVOR OF HAVING TO HAVE TO DODGE AND WALK AROUND. AND I'M IN FAVOR OF GOING THROUGH SUBDIVISIONS AND HAVING SOME CONNECTIVITY. WE'RE IN FAVOR OF THE CONNECTIVITY, WHICH IS WHY WE'VE ACTUALLY PROMISED TO HAVE THEM OPEN BASICALLY ALL DAY, EVERY DAY. THE THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS, OVER 90% OF THE TRAFFIC HAPPENS BETWEEN THE 630 IN THE MORNING AND AND 8 P.M. 
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IN THE EVENING. AND SO I'VE NOT SEEN A LOT OF MY CLIENTS DO GATED COMMUNITIES WHERE THEY'RE OPEN DURING THE DAY. AND I DO THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT MAKES THIS ACTUALLY A VIABLE REQUEST IS BECAUSE OF THAT. MR. DISCUSSION. ANGELA, I GOT A QUESTION, JOHN. HOW WOULD THAT BE ENFORCED? WHO WOULD BE ENFORCING IT? WHAT IF THEY DECIDE NOT TO THAT THE OR THE TIMER DOESN'T WORK OR WHATEVER? AND WHO ENFORCES THAT? SOMETHING THAT COLLIERVILLE POLICE IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME THROUGH AND THEN WRITE A TICKET BECAUSE THE GATES AREN'T UNLOCKED WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE. FROM A TECHNICAL STANDPOINT, THE PD WILL BE APPROVED WITH THE LANGUAGE, HOWEVER IT'S APPROVED THROUGH HERE. MOVING THROUGH THAT TRANSFERS ONTO THE PLAT, AND THAT IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT OF THE HOA. THE HOA WOULD BE THE KEEPER OF THAT OPERATION. OBVIOUSLY THERE WOULD ALWAYS BE COORDINATION, LIKE IF WE PROMISE TO BE OPEN WHEN PARKS OPEN OR SOME, YOU KNOW, THE HOURS BEFORE OR AFTER HINTON PARK THAT WOULD FOLLOW THAT THEY WOULD DO IT USUALLY THE FIRST 8 TO 10 YEARS OF A DEVELOPMENT. THE THE BUILDER ACTUALLY MANAGES THE HOA BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL OWNED MOST OF THE LOTS IN IT, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BURDEN THE RESIDENTS. SO THEY CARRY THE BURDEN OF THE COST AND THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION. ONCE IT'S TRANSFERRED TO THE HOA, THEY'LL HAVE A PRESIDENT AND, YOU KNOW, VOTING BODY, BUT THEY WOULD BE THE ONES LEGALLY, IF IT'S ON THE PLAT, THEY'RE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THAT OR COME TO THE TOWN AND, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH IT. USUALLY WHEN WE DO SEE THINGS LIKE THIS HAPPEN, IF THEIR GATES ARE BROKEN OR ONE OF THEM IS BROKEN, THEY END UP JUST HAVING TO LEAVE IT OPEN TO TO MEET WHATEVER THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE. AND. YOU MENTIONED IF IT'S ONLY FIVE HOURS, IT'S ONLY IT'S STILL FIVE HOURS. I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA. BUT WOULD WOULD THE APPLICANT ENTERTAIN THAT? THAT'S JUST ALL IT IS. IT'S FIVE HOURS EVERY NIGHT. THAT'S IT. SO 11 TO 4 OR 11 TO 5, WHATEVER THAT IS. THAT'S JUST SET. I THINK WHAT KYLE WAS SAYING IS THAT THERE IS A PEACE OF MIND AT NIGHT THAT THE SECURITY EXISTS. AND THAT'S THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THESE GATES. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE HOME BUYERS WANT THEM SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE HOOLIGANS RUNNING THROUGH YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK WE'VE ALL SEEN THEM IN CORALVILLE. WE DON'T HAVE A REAL CRIME PROBLEM IN CARNIVAL, BUT WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, CAR DOORS OPENED AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND THIS BEING ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, I THINK THE NEW PEOPLE MOVING TO TOWN ARE PROBABLY THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY WORRY ABOUT IT. I THINK IF THERE'S A SET OF HOURS THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK THAT THAT WORKS, WHETHER IT'S I THINK NINE WOULD PROBABLY BE THE LATEST. I WOULD SUGGEST, YOU KNOW, THEN LIKE THE 9 TO 6 HOURS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE RANGE. I, I, YEAH, I JUST WAS ASKING THE QUESTION I, SCOTT MENTIONED EARLIER, ME AND HIM ARE BOTH ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE, THE BIGGEST BLOCK OF UNOCCUPIED PROPERTY IN COLLIERVILLE IS SOUTH OF YOUR PROPERTY. CORRECT. AND WE KNOW THAT IN TEN YEARS IT'S GOING TO BE FLEMING'S NOT GOING TO BE A A ROAD I LIKE TO RIDE A BIKE ON. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE A BUSY ROAD. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THE CONNECTIVITY THROUGH THE PARK IS IMPORTANT TO EVERYBODY. JUST LIKE TERRY WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT, I THINK NONE OF US OPPOSE A GATED COMMUNITY JUST SO IT'S I THINK THIS WOULD BE A HARD SELL TO YOUR CUSTOMERS BEING THAT WE'RE GATED, BUT WE. THE ONLY WAY WE COULD GET IT WAS ONLY. YOU'RE ONLY GOING TO BE GATED FOR FIVE HOURS A NIGHT. I THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BRING YOU THE BENEFIT THAT YOU THINK. 
          MAYBE BECAUSE IT'S NOT TRUE. IF I WAS LOOKING FOR A GATED COMMUNITY, JUST LIKE KYLE SAID, IF HE BOUGHT ONE, IF I DON'T KNOW IF HE WOULD HAVE BEEN A BUYER, IF HE WERE ONLY GOING TO TOLD IT WAS GOING TO BE CLOSE FIVE HOURS A NIGHT, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IT'S THE RIGHT SITUATION FOR THE RIGHT PLACE. I WOULD SAY TO THE TRAFFIC CONCERNS ON FLEMING, I'D NEVER PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO WHAT THE CURRENT AND THE FUTURE TRAFFIC PROJECTIONS ON FLEMING WERE UNTIL WE DID THIS PROJECT AND THE ONE RIGHT UP THE STREET. SO FLEMING DEAD ENDS AT COLLIERVILLE ROAD ON THE NORTH AND IT DEAD ENDS ON HOLMES ROAD ON THE SOUTH. I MEAN, IT'S A BASICALLY A FARM TRAIL SOUTH OF THERE. THEY DID SHOW ME THE I GUESS IT'S THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN THAT'S PROPOSED IN THE 2050 PLAN. THE NEW PLAN. ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE, UNLESS THEY'RE GOING TO SOMEWHERE ELSE ON FLEMING ROAD, ARE GOING TO GO WEST OR EAST ON COLLIERVILLE ROAD, SHELBY DRIVE OR HOLMES ROAD. SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE TRAFFIC GROWTH, BUT I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT A THREE LANE ROAD THROUGH THERE, EVEN WITH ALL OF OUR TRAFFIC ONLY GOING OUT ONE DIRECTION. BUT REALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S PROBABLY CLOSER TO 95% OF THE TRAFFIC WILL HAPPEN WHEN THE GATES ARE OPEN. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RESTRICT THE ACCESS FROM THE FLEMING GARDENS OR THE LOCKWOOD PEOPLE. FOR THE FEW THAT IT DOES MAKE IT MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM TO COME THROUGH US. SO I REALLY THINK OF OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ISSUES THAT THE TRAFFIC ON FLEMING IS PROBABLY THE LEAST THING TO ACTUALLY BE CONSIDERING. CHAIR. ANOTHER DISCUSSION. THANK YOU JOHN. ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 
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MR. BATES. NO. MR. DUBOSE NO. MR. SLEDD YES. MR. ROZANSKI NO. MR. COTTON. NO. ALL RIGHT. DON, 
          [9  Development Updates (new cases, administrative reviews, etc.)]
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO COME BEFORE US THIS EVENING? I DO HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS. 
          JUST A FEW. OF COURSE. WE HAVE OUR DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY MAP. YOU CAN GO CHECK OUT FOR ANY NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN TOWN I CAN GET. ALSO, I HAVE MIKE HERE. HE MAY TALK ABOUT THE STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING THAT WE HAD ON THE SECOND. BUT BEFORE HE GETS UP HERE, COME ON THE UPCOMING MEETINGS FOR JULY. JUST KEEP MAKE NOTE THAT IF WE DO HAVE A MEETING, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE THE SIXTH, WHICH IS A MONDAY. THE ONLY THING THAT COULD BE POSSIBLY ON THE AGENDA IS THE ML GWQP SOLAR FARM. BUT THAT KEEPS GETTING PUSHED BACK AND THERE ARE NO ITEMS FOR THE AUGUST PC JUST YET, BUT MIKE CAN UPDATE US WITH THE STEERING STEERING PLANNING COMMITTEE. GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSION AFTERNOON. 
          WHATEVER TIME IT IS, IT'S BEEN A DAY TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE. WE ARE APPROXIMATELY HALFWAY THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN EFFORT. AS DON MENTIONED, THE STEERING COMMITTEE DID MEET ON TUESDAY. A LOT OF THAT DISCUSSION WAS BASED ON RESPONSE AND REFLECTION ON WHAT WOULD OCCUR DURING WHAT WE CALL DESIGN WEEK. IT WAS A THREE DAY INTENSIVE DESIGN CHARRETTE, AND ONE OF THE MAIN COMPONENTS THAT WE NEED TO REALLY GET ACCOMPLISHED WAS FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO IN TERMS OF LAND USE, THIS FUTURE LAND USE MAP, OR AS WE'RE CALLING IT, FUTURE LAND USE CHARACTER MAP, AS MENTIONED BY MR. MCCARTY, IT'S THE INDICATION RIGHT NOW IS IT COULD BE A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PARADIGM SHIFT FROM WHAT THE 2040 PLAN IS IN TERMS OF THE LEVEL OF ACTIVITY WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT. FORTUNATELY, AS NOTED, TWO OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT ARE ON THAT, AND WE'RE PROVIDING OR WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK. STAFF WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED AT HOW COMFORTABLE THE COMMUNITY WAS. THE MAP THAT OR THE MAPS. I SHOULD SAY THAT THE STEERING COMMITTEE ARE REVIEWING ARE BASED ON TWO DIFFERENT SCENARIOS MODERATE GROWTH AND AN INTENSE GROWTH. AND BOTH OF THOSE MAPS RECEIVED THE SAME NUMBER OF VOTES DURING THE DESIGN WEEK SESSIONS. THAT INDICATES THAT AT LEAST THE CITIZENS THAT PARTICIPATED AT THAT EVENT ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA OF MOVING IN TERMS OF A MORE INTENSIVE ACTIVITY. IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THIS MIGHT NOT BE URBAN SETTING. IT COULD STILL BE SUBURBAN. THEY MENTIONED ABOUT THE T N DISTRICT, GOOD REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT THE T N DISTRICT IS, IS THE NEW RESIDENTIAL AREA JUST EAST OF THE SQUARE. THAT'S A GOOD REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE, BUT IT IS TYPICALLY IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO COMMERCIAL OR OTHER MIXED USE OPTIONS, WHERE IT'S A WALKABLE ENVIRONMENT AND GIVING FOLKS SOMETHING TO WALK THROUGH. NEXT STEPS. THE NEXT STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING WILL HAVE A FINAL DRAFT PLAN OR DRAFT MAP TO THE TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE, AND WE'LL BEGIN THE DISCUSSION REGARDING TRANSPORTATION. WE ARE ANTICIPATING HAVING THE FINAL DRAFT BEFORE THE END OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, AND WE'LL BE HAVING MULTIPLE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY, GOING OUT TO NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, POTENTIALLY HAVING A COUPLE EVENTS LATE THIS YEAR AFTER THE ELECTION TO REALLY GET PUBLIC FEEDBACK, BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TESTING THE ASSUMPTIONS WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FINAL PLAN THAT'S PRESENTED TO Y'ALL FOR CONSIDERATION, AS WELL AS TO THE BMA, IS TRULY REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. AND I'M AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK
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