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FIVE. SIX. FIVE. SIX. STOP! HE WOULD JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AMEN. ALRIGHT, EVERYBODY, WELCOME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING HERE ON THIS BEAUTIFUL MAY AFTERNOON. ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. DOCTOR GREEN HERE, MR. BATES HERE. MR. SLED HERE, MR. ROZANSKI, MISS FLETCHER, MR. GIVEN, MR. DUBOSE, MR. STAMPS HERE. MR. COTTON HERE.
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ALL RIGHT, FOLKS, ALL COMMISSIONERS, HAVE YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES OF OUR LAST MEETING? SURE YOU HAVE. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS, DELETIONS OR CORRECTIONS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE NOTE OF? MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 6TH, 2020 SECOND. ALRIGHT. MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. MR. BATES.YES. MR. SLED, YES. MISS. FLETCHER. YES. MR. GIVEN. YES. MR. DUBOSE. YES. DOCTOR. GREEN.
YES. MR. STAMPS. MR. COTTON. YES, JAMIE. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE
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PUBLISHED AGENDA FROM FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING? NO, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE FOUR CASES ON THE FORMAL AGENDA. NOTHING. I THINK THIS IS ALL RIGHT. THEN I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PUBLISHED FOR TONIGHT. SO MOVED. SECOND. MOTION MADE AND SECONDED.ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, MR. SLED. YES, MISS. FLETCHER. YES. MR. GREEN. YES. MR. DUBOSE.
YES. MR. GIBBON. YES. MR. BATES. YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS THE PART OF OUR MEETING WHERE, IF YOU ARE A CITIZEN OF COLLIERVILLE AND YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THAT IS NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, I DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS. NOW IS YOUR TIME. CITIZENS COMMENTS. IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO COME ON UP AND TELL US WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND, ALL RIGHT. OR DON'T EVERYBODY RUN UP HERE AT THE SAME TIME THAT PORTION IS CLOSED. WE HAVE NO CONSENT AGENDA. SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ON TO OUR FORMAL AGENDA,
[8.a Case #260738]
WHICH IS CASE NUMBER 260738. AND DON, I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION. YES, SIR. SO TONIGHT I WILL BE DOING A JOINT PRESENTATION FOR THE NEW CUP ON SOUTH HOUSTON LAKE ROAD AND THE EXISTING CUP ON WEST POPLAR AVENUE, WHICH IS RELATED TO A CAR RENTAL USE.THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM FOR 4000 SOUTH HOUSTON LEVEE ROAD IS TO REQUEST APPROVAL OF A CUP TO ALLOW A CAR RENTAL USE. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS SHO HOUSTON LEVEE AND THE APPLICANT IS EAN HOLDINGS. THE PURPOSE OF THE AGENDA ITEM FOR 1990 WEST POPLAR AVENUE IS TO REQUEST APPROVAL TO RESCIND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT ALLOWED A CAR RENTAL USE. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS RADIAN GROUP AND THE APPLICANT IS EAN HOLDINGS, AND BOTH PROPERTIES ARE ZONED SHOPPING CENTER COMMERCIAL. THE CURRENT PROPERTY AT HOUSTON LEVEE IS VACANT AND IS SURROUNDED BY SHOPPING CENTER, COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS AND R3 HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH IS WITHIN A I, WHICH IS WITHIN THE IRONWOOD PD. AUTO USES ARE ONLY ALLOWED IN THE SHOPPING CENTER. ZONING. THIS SHOPPING CENTER. COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT WITH AN APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND SINCE CUPS RUN WITH THE LAND, A REQUEST TO RESCIND A CUP IS ALSO NEEDED TO REMOVE THE PERMITTED RIGHT TO OPERATE A CAR RENTAL BUSINESS AT THE POPLAR ADDRESS. THE APPLICANT WILL ALSO NEED TO SUBMIT A FINAL SITE PLAN AND FINAL PLAT FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL. THE NEW LOCATION ALONG HOUSTON LEVEE WILL ALLOW ENTERPRISE TO OPERATE INDEPENDENTLY, RATHER WITHIN A MULTI-TENANT SHOPPING CENTER. THERE ARE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THE CUP THAT WILL LIMIT OUTDOOR ACTIVITY SUCH AS AUTO REPAIR, OUTSIDE CAR WASHING AND OVERFLOW PARKING ONTO PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. UNLIKE THE PREVIOUS REQUEST IN 2024 ON COWAN ROAD, THERE WILL BE NO MOVING TRUCK RENTAL AT THIS LOCATION. THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A CONCEPTUAL SITE LAYOUT, AND IT SHOWS A MAIN OFFICE OF ABOUT 1600FT■S WITH A CAR WASH BAY ONLY USED FOR THE CAR FLEET. ABOUT 90 TO 100 PARKING SPACES ARE ALLOCATED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, WITH 79 ROUGHLY BEING ALLOCATED FOR THE RENTAL CARS, AND 17 SPACES
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WOULD BE FOR STAFF AND CUSTOMERS. AND SINCE THIS IS ONLY A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT, THIS LAYOUT COULD CHANGE WHEN IT WHEN THEY SUBMIT FOR FINAL SITE PLAN, BUT THE SITE WOULD NEED TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, AND THE DESIGN GUIDELINES. UNLESS THEY REQUEST A WAIVER OR DEVIATION. IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE CUP, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THIS LAYOUT IS APPROVED.AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THEY'LL NEED TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN REGARDING TRAFFIC. THE SITE IS EXPECTED TO PRODUCE 12 PEAK HOUR TRIPS AND IS NOT EXPECTED TO CAUSE ANY ADVERSE IMPACTS ON THE ROADS. THIS SITE WILL SHARE AN EXISTING ACCESS WITH SONIC TO THE NORTH, WHICH IS A FULL MOVEMENT, MEANING THAT VEHICLES WILL HAVE ACCESS TO SOUTHBOUND AND NORTHBOUND HOUSTON LEVEE.
THERE IS ONE ACCESS PROPOSED TO THE SOUTH OF THE SITE AND THIS IS A NEW ACCESS POINT. THIS WILL ONLY BE A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT. AND THAT MEANS ONLY NORTHBOUND ACCESS TO HOUSTON LEVEE IS AVAILABLE FOR VEHICLES TURNING OUT OF THE DEVELOPMENT. ALSO, SIDEWALKS WOULD BE REQUIRED ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE SITE. REIMBURSEMENT TO THE TOWN FOR THE NEW STREET LIGHTS ALONG HOUSTON LEVEE WILL BE CALCULATED WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT COMES WITH THE FINAL SITE PLAN. ENGINEERING STATES THAT ATTENTION WILL BE REQUIRED AND THAT WILL BE REVIEWED WITH THE SITE PLAN AS WELL. AND THERE IS ADEQUATE WATER AND SEWER IN THIS AREA TO ACCOMMODATE THIS DEVELOPMENT. THE CURRENT CUP FOR ENTERPRISE WAS APPROVED IN 2007, AND IT WAS APPROVED TO STORE APPROXIMATELY SIX VEHICLES AND IS LOCATED WITHIN THE BAYLOR STATION SHOPPING CENTER, A GAS STATION, A DONUT SHOP AND AN ARTS ACADEMY ALSO OPERATE WITHIN THAT SAME BUILDING. THE CUP HAS BEEN AMENDED TWICE, AND EACH TIME WAS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES ALLOWED. CURRENTLY, THE SITE AT POPLAR IS ALLOWED TO HAVE A MAXIMUM OF 20 VEHICLES STORED, BUT BECAUSE OF THE HIGH DEMAND AND THE SITE HAS, THE SITE HAS PERIODICALLY BEEN IN VIOLATION OF THEIR Q P AND BECAUSE OF THE. OF THAT DEMAND, THE APPLICANT HAS CHOSEN TO RELOCATE TO SOUTH HOUSTON LEVEE. STAFF DOES RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR 4000 SOUTH HOUSTON LEVEE AS IT IS CONSISTENT, CONSISTENT WITH THE GROUNDS FOR ISSUANCE OF A Q P AND THE. THE USE IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT AND YOU WILL SEE THE EXAMPLE MOTION ON YOUR SCREEN IS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
RECOMMEND THE BMA APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR Q P LOCATED AT 4000 SOUTH HOUSTON LEVEE ROAD, AND THERE ARE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ON YOUR SCREEN. THERE ARE 12 CONDITIONS AND THE APPLICANT IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE 12 CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. THE SECOND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE RESENT TO TO APPROVE RESCINDING THE Q P AS THE CURRENT SITE HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN IN VIOLATION OF THE EXISTING Q P AND A NEW SITE IS PROPOSED ON HOUSTON LEVEE AND THE MOTION FOR THE RESCINDING OF THE CUP IS TO RECOMMEND THE BOARD OF MAYOR AND ALDERMAN APPROVE THE REQUEST TO RESCIND THAT Q P FOR AN AUTO RENTAL USE 30 DAYS AFTER THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE HOUSTON LEVEE LOCATION RECEIVES A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BY THE TOWN OF KERRVILLE. SO THE NEXT STEPS FOR THE APPLICANT WOULD BE A BMA MEETING, WHICH IS SET FOR MAY 26TH, AND THEY NEED TO SUBMIT APPLICATIONS FOR A SUBDIVISION PLAT AND SITE PLAN.
AND THIS DOES CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DON COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR DON? OKAY. WELL, LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KATE THOMPSON. I'M THE PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT AND FACILITIES MANAGER FOR ENTERPRISE MOBILITY HERE IN THE WEST TENNESSEE REGION. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ON THIS, IF YOU WOULD NOT NOT TRYING TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT IF YOU WOULD PUT TELL US YOUR ADDRESS. THAT'S FOR THE RECORD, MY PERSONAL ADDRESS, WHEREVER, WHATEVER ADDRESS YOU WANT, YOUR BUSINESS ADDRESS WILL WORK.
JUST 2424 APPLING ROAD, MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? WELL, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. FANTASTIC. FANTASTIC PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS. LET'S GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. LET'S TAKE UP ITEM ONE. FIRST. MOST. GO AHEAD. MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE APPROVAL FOR THE REQUEST FOR A Q P. WELL, YOU TOOK IT OFF THE SCREEN, DIDN'T YOU? NO, I STOOD THERE. OH THANK YOU. APPROVAL THE Q P FOR THE EXAMPLE WITH THE EXAMPLE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AS THAT'S YOUR THAT'S
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YOUR RECOMMENDATION. I'M HELP ME OUT. THERE WE GO. THERE WE GO, THERE WE GO. THANK YOU.OKAY. TO RECOMMEND THE BMA APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR Q P FOR AN AUTO RENTAL LOCATED AT 4000 SOUTH HOUSTON LEVEE ROAD, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. I HEAR A SECOND.
SECOND. ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, MISS FLETCHER. YES.
MR. GIBSON. YES. MR. DUBOSE. YES, DOCTOR. GREEN. YES. MR. BATES. YES. MR. SLED. YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. AND LET'S TAKE UP 242313. NEXT AND THAT'LL BE THE
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SAMPLE. MOTION IS NUMBER TWO ON THE SCREEN. I WILL GIVE THIS TO SOMEBODY ELSE. YOU'RE IN THE HOT SEAT. GO AHEAD JEREMY. ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO RECOMMEND THE BMA APPROVE THE REQUEST TO RESCIND Q P FOR AN AUTO RENTAL LOCATED AT 1900 1990 WEST POPLAR AVENUE, 30 DAYS AFTER THE Q P FOR 4000 SOUTH HOUSTON LEVEE ROAD RECEIVES A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY BY THE TOWN OF CARNIVAL. SECOND. MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. DO I HEAR ANY DISCUSSION? ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, MR. GIBBON. YES, MR. DUBOSE YES, DOCTOR. GREEN. YES. MR. BATES.YES. MR. SLED, YES, MISS. FLETCHER. YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. AND
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NOW WE'VE GOT CASE NUMBER 260127, WHICH IS EIGHT C ON OUR FORMAL AGENDA. AND I BELIEVE ALLISON'S GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION FOR US. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. SO THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS. IT'S GOOD TO PRESENT TO YOU FOR THE FIRST TIME CONSIDERING I'VE BEEN HERE FOR MONTHS. SO TONIGHT, THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER, THEY'RE REQUESTING APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR PHASE FOUR OF THE OAK GROVE SUBDIVISION.THE SUBDIVISION IS PART OF A LARGER PD, THE BYHALIA CORRIDOR AND THE OAK GROVE PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 1999. THE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. RIGHT HERE IS APPROXIMATELY 24.5 ACRES, AND IT'S LOCATED NORTH OF SHELBY DRIVE AND WEST OF BYHALIA. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT IS R-1. BUT AS PART OF THE PD APPROVAL, AGAIN, IN 1999, THE PROVISIONS ALLOW DEVELOPMENT UP TO R-2 MEDIUM DENSITY, AND THE DEVELOPER PLANS TO CREATE 55 NEW LOTS ON THIS 24.5 ACRE PARCEL FOR DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY. THIS PD TRULY IS A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT IN TERMS OF LAND USES. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY RANGE FROM LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL. THE ENTIRE PD IS APPROXIMATELY 393 ACRES, AND THE OUTLINE PLAN THAT AGAIN WAS APPROVED IN 1999 SHOWS THAT THAT THE ENTIRE PD IS DIVIDED INTO 17 PARCELS. THE OAK GROVE SUBDIVISION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, THAT'S SHOWN HERE IN ORANGE. IT'S LOCATED IN PARCEL L ONE, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED ON YOUR SCREEN. AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS IS THE FINAL AREA TO BE DEVELOPED WITHIN PARCEL L ONE. SO THE LAYOUT IN THE DENSITY THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TONIGHT IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH THAT OUTLINE PLAN THAT I'VE MENTIONED. THE PLAN ALLOWS FOR AN OVERALL MAXIMUM DENSITY IN THAT PARCEL L ONE OF 2.1 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE. WITH THE ADDITION OF THE 55 LOTS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED TONIGHT, THAT WOULD CREATE A DENSITY OF 2.05. SO THEY ARE BELOW THE DENSITY THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED WITHIN THAT PD APPROVAL. THE OUTLINE PLAN DOES REQUIRE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 11,250FT■S. THEY ARE MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT. AND EACH LOT HAS TO HAVE A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 90FT. AND OUR CODE DEFINES LOT WIDTH AS THE MEASUREMENT BETWEEN LOT LINES. THE MEASUREMENT TAKEN AT THE FRONT SETBACK LINE. SO THE PLAT THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT IS SHOWING THE LOT WIDTHS AT THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE. BUT AS PART OF A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH OF THE LOTS MEET THE WIDTH REQUIREMENT AT THAT FRONT SETBACK LINE. BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE MEASUREMENTS ON SOME OF THE FRONT LOT LINES, THEY'RE NOT QUITE MEETING 90FT. BUT ONCE YOU GO BACK TO THIS FRONT SETBACK OF 30FT, LIKELY ALL OF THOSE LOTS WILL MEET THAT 90FT.
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BUT WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. SO THAT IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL FOR TONIGHT. I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION THAT THERE WILL BE EIGHT COMMON OPEN SPACE AREAS THERE HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN GREEN. AND I HOPE THAT YOU CAN SEE THOSE, THE COMMON OPEN SPACE AREAS HERE TO THE SOUTH, A, B AND C, THEY'RE GOING TO CONTAIN THE ENTRANCE SIGN AND THE LANDSCAPING FEATURES THAT ARE COMMON THROUGHOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT. IN FACT, JUST TO JUST TO THE EAST, THERE'S A VERY SIMILAR ENTRANCE THAT'S ALSO PART OF THIS LARGER PD. SO IT'LL BE VERY SIMILAR WITH THE LANDSCAPING AND THE ENTRANCE SIGNS. AND THERE WILL BE CLUSTER MAILBOXES ROUGHLY HERE UP IN COMMON OPEN SPACE G. SO THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE COMPLETED IN THREE PHASES.PHASE ONE WILL START HERE AT THE NORTH. AND IT WILL INCLUDE THIS ROAD CONNECTION TO CYPRESS DOWN. AND IT WILL ALSO INCLUDE A ROAD CONNECTION HERE WHICH IS GOING TO BE AN ALLEYWAY. THIS IS GOING TO CONNECT TO NIXON LEAF LANE, WHICH IS PART OF THE WOODLAWN PD. THIS WAS ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED AND APPROVED TO BE A ROAD CONNECTION, BUT A FEW YEARS AGO, THE WOODLAWN HOA PETITIONED THE TOWN TO TURN THAT INTO EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, WOODLAWN ONLY HAS ONE ACCESS OUT OF THEIR SUBDIVISION ONTO SHELBY DRIVE.
SO THE TOWN AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AGREED. SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THIS FENCE HERE.
AND THERE'S A GATE. THE GATE LOCKS FROM OAK GROVE'S SIDE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A KEY TO THAT LOCK. AND SO WHEN THE DEVELOPER COMES IN AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THEIR ALLEYWAY, IT'S BASICALLY GOING TO BE JUST A CONTINUATION OF THIS EMERGENCY ACCESS. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY CHANGE IN THE OPERATION OF THE GATE, AND THE TOWN AND CFD WILL MAKE SURE TO WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER. SO THAT WAY THAT THIS EMERGENCY ACCESS IS GOING TO BE BLOCKED FOR A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME AS POSSIBLE. SO THAT'S ALL PHASE ONE. PHASE TWO IS GOING TO SEE THIS CONNECTION HERE. I BELIEVE THIS IS NINE OAKS LANE. AND THEN PHASE THREE WILL SEE THIS CONNECTION DOWN HERE TO THE SOUTH TO SHELBY DRIVE. SO WITH THIS MANY ACCESS POINTS, THE AVERAGE TRIPS THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE WILL BE DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE DON'T INTEND TO SEE ANY ANY TRAFFIC IMPACTS. SO AGAIN, AS PART OF THAT PD APPROVAL, THERE WAS AN ALTERNATIVE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WAS APPROVED. THE RIGHT OF WAY WIDTH WAS APPROVED AT 31FT, WITH THE 8.5FT PEDESTRIAN AND UTILITY EASEMENT. THAT'S CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT. THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES. AND AGAIN, THAT WILL BE CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE OAK GROVE SUBDIVISION. THIS IS A SECTION OF THE T DOT ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ALONG SHELBY DRIVE. WE EXPECT THIS TO, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE DRAWINGS ARE COMPLETE. WE EXPECT THIS TO GO OUT TO BID PERHAPS NEXT YEAR AND CONSTRUCTION TO BEGIN IN 2028. BUT WHAT THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE IS A LANDSCAPED MEDIAN IS GOING TO BE INSTALLED ON SHELBY DRIVE AND FOUR TRAVEL LANES, ALONG WITH BIKE LANES ON EITHER SIDE. THESE BIKE LANES ARE GOING TO CONNECT ALL THE WAY TO THE BIKE LANES ON BYHALIA. AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL ABOUT HALF A LITTLE OVER A MILE AWAY, THAT WILL BE SOME NICE CONNECTIVITY, YOU KNOW, FOR BIKE RIDERS. AGAIN, AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT, SIDEWALKS WILL. SO YOU CAN SEE THE SIDEWALKS SHOWN HERE. THESE SIDEWALKS WILL CONTINUE HERE ALONG THE PART OF THE OAK GROVE PROPERTY. THE DEVELOPER HAS PAID A FEE IN LIEU BACK WHEN THE OUTLINE BACK WHEN THE OUTLINE PLAN WAS ORIGINALLY APPROVED IN 1999. SO WE DO HAVE FEE IN LIEU FOR THIS SECTION OF SIDEWALK, BUT THERE ARE THEY'RE GOING TO NEED TO PAY FEE IN LIEU FOR THIS SECTION OF SIDEWALK, AND THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WE WILL HAVE BEFORE THE BMA AS NEXT STEPS. I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT GRADING AND DRAINAGE, SO I WANT TO JUST TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT ON THIS SLIDE AND THEN AGAIN ON THE NEXT SLIDE. SO AS PART OF DOT'S ROAD IMPROVEMENTS, THEY ARE GOING TO BE CHANGING THE GRADE HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE WIDENING THE ROAD. AND THIS SHOWS IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. SO WE CAN SEE HERE THAT THIS IS THIS IS AN EXISTING LOW POINT ON THE SITE. AND SO WATER TRAVELS FROM THE EAST TO THE WEST COMING THROUGH HERE. AND THEN SORT OF
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COMES THIS WAY. SO AS PART OF THE DOT IMPROVEMENTS, THEY DO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE CHANGING THAT GRADING. AND SO THEY HAVE WORKED WITH THE WOODLAWN PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS RIGHT HERE. THEY'RE GOING TO PURCHASE A PORTION OF LAND ROUGHLY HERE, AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO GET AN EASEMENT OF LAND ROUGHLY HERE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO DIVERT THAT CREEK JUST A LITTLE BIT. SO THAT WAY THIS WILL CONTINUE TO FLOW AND THEIR GRADE CHANGE WON'T NEGATIVELY IMPACT DRAINAGE. SO ON THIS SITE, YOU SEE THE TREES IN POST DEVELOPMENT. SO WE DO HAVE REQUIREMENTS. WE TAKE THE TOTAL ACREAGE OF THE SITE AND WE MULTIPLY THAT BY 12. AND THEN WE GET THE FIRST TREE REQUIREMENT. AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT EACH LOT HAS TO HAVE TWO TREES. SO WHEN WE FACTOR ALL OF THAT IN, THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PROVIDE, I BELIEVE IT'S 295 TOTAL TREES. AND THEY'RE SHOWING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO MEET THAT REQUIREMENT. WE DO KNOW THAT SOME TREES WILL BE TAKEN OUT MOSTLY HERE, BUT AGAIN, THEY ARE GOING TO MEET OUR REQUIREMENT. AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT STORMWATER. OUR STAFF ENGINEER IS HERE. IF THERE ARE ANY REALLY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, BUT KIND OF HIGH LEVEL, PART OF THE OUTLINE PLAN REQUIRES THAT THEY CHANGE THE GRADING AND THE SLOPE AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE HAS TO BE SOME CHANGE IN ORDER TO HAVE DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE IT AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE. WATER IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO FLOW WHERE IT FLOWS RIGHT NOW. SO WE'VE GOT LOW SPOTS HERE AND WE HAVE LOW SPOTS HERE. AND IF YOU CAN SEE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BIG ENOUGH ON YOUR SCREENS, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS WILL BE A DETENTION POND THAT'S GOING TO BE ENLARGED FROM WHERE IT IS RIGHT NOW. AND IT'S GOING TO CAPTURE ALL OF THIS WATER THAT CONTINUES TO FLOW SOUTH AND CONTINUES TO FLOW WEST. AND THEN THIS RIGHT HERE IS GOING TO BE THIS LARGE 30 FOOT WIDE.IT ALSO GETS WIDER DOWN HERE, DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE REGRADED FROM WHERE IT IS NOW, JUST TO ENSURE THAT THIS CONTINUES TO BE THE LOW SPOT AND CAPTURES ALL OF THAT WATER AND CONTINUES TO FLOW INTO THE CREEK THAT GOES ALONG THE WOODLAWN PD AND THEN CONTINUES WEST UNTIL YOU GET TO FLEMING ROAD. I DO KNOW I DID HEAR FROM THE RESIDENT WHO LIVES HERE, A MR. YAWKEY. I BELIEVE HE MAY BE HERE TONIGHT AND MAY WANT TO SPEAK. AND WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT THIS AFTERNOON. HIS LOT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A HIGHER ELEVATION THAN THE DEVELOPMENT SURROUNDING HIM. SO WE REALLY DON'T ANTICIPATE THERE TO BE ANY STORMWATER ISSUES TO MR. YAWKEY. BUT AGAIN, OUR OUR STAFF ENGINEERS HERE, AND HE'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION OF THE OAK GROVE PD PHASE FOUR, SECTION C ONE, AND THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS THAT WERE LISTED IN EXHIBIT TWO. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS. WILL THERE BE A RIPARIAN ZONE ALONG THE EDGE OF THE CREEK, OR WILL IT BE COMPLETELY CLEARED AND GRUBBED AND REGRADED? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HERE ALONG THIS THIS CREEK HERE? YES. SO NOT EVERY TREE IS GOING TO BE REMOVED, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE TREES ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED AND IT IS GOING TO BE REGRADED. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. THE ALLEY, THE THE FENCE WITH THE GATE IS STAYING THERE, JUST CONNECTING IT FOR FOR FIRE PROTECTION PURPOSES. THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO THE FENCE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE STANDING HERE ON NIXON WAY, THE FENCE OPENS UP ONTO OAK GROVE PROPERTY. SO THAT WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE THAT WAY. AGAIN, IT JUST MAY BE AN OPERATIONAL FOR ABOUT 48 HOURS WHEN THEY'RE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION WORK. BUT WE'LL COORDINATE WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND WE APPROVE THAT. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. NOW, THE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONER STAMPS. WELL, I'D JUST LIKE TO FEED ON YOUR QUESTION AGAIN WITH THAT PART. THAT 30 FOOT REGRADING IS THE INTENT OF THE DEVELOPER TO MAKE IT A LANDSCAPING FEATURE OF SOME SORT. DESIGN. KEEP IT NATURAL. AND IS THERE A CREEK THAT GOES THROUGH THERE OR. YES, YES. SO YES. SO THERE CURRENTLY IS A CREEK THAT GOES THROUGH THERE AND IT'S MAYBE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE HERE. AND OUR STAFF ENGINEER, STEPHEN RUSSELL CAN. YEAH, I'LL I'LL EXPLAIN. STEPHEN RUSSELL ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, IF YOU'LL GO BACK TO THAT GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLAN, THE ONLY
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SPOT WHERE THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO TOUCH THE DITCH IS WHERE THE STREET CROSSING IS THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A RIPARIAN BUFFER REQUIRED BECAUSE THAT DITCH YOU SEE THERE, IT WAS PUT IN WHEN THIS DETENTION POND OVER HERE TO THE EAST WAS PUT IN. SO THAT WATER DRAINS OUT OF THERE, GOES THROUGH HERE AND COMES THROUGH THIS. AND THIS SWALE DITCH WAS A MAN MADE DITCH. SO THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FROM TDEC TO HAVE THAT RIPARIAN BUFFER. BUT THE ONLY SPOT THERE WILL BE MESSING WITH IT IS RIGHT HERE. THEY'RE PUTTING A PIPE IN FOR THE ROAD CROSSING, AND THERE'S A COUPLE PIPES THAT ARE DRAINED IN BETWEEN THE LOTS TO COME THERE.BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THE DEVELOPER WILL NOT BE DISTURBING THAT DITCH. YEAH, I THINK CREEK IS A LOOSE TERM. MAYBE MADE US THINK NATURAL, BUT I THINK THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LANDSCAPING PLAN OR BY LEAVING SOME TREES, YOU START TO JUST NOT HAVE AN OPEN DITCH, BECOMES A LITTLE MORE ESTHETICALLY FRIENDLY, I THINK IS WHAT WE WERE HOPING THAT WE WOULD LEAVE SOME OF THOSE TREES ALONG THERE AND KIND OF MAYBE HIDE IT. YEAH. AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY GRADING THERE. SO ANY TREES THAT ARE THERE WILL BE THERE REMAIN. YES. OKAY. THEY MAY COME IN THERE. THE DEVELOPER CAN SPEAK MORE. THEY MAY COME IN THERE AND CLEAN OUT SOME UNDERBRUSH JUST TO KIND OF OPEN IT UP. SO THAT'S AS FAR AS REMOVING ANY BIG TREES. THERE ARE NO PLANS TO DO THAT. OKAY.
I'M AWARE OF. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS COMMISSIONER. GOT A QUESTION ON THE CURRENT TIMELINE OF PHASE FOR THE SHELBY DRIVE EXPANSION AND HOW THAT RELATES TO THE TRAFFIC FLOW. ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE TIMELINE OF THAT? YES, SIR. AS FAMILIAR AS I CAN BE, SINCE IT IS DOT. BUT AS FAR AS WE KNOW, CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN IN 2028. AND SO THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY THE DEVELOPER WANTS TO START PHASE ONE UP AT THE NORTH AND JUST SORT OF WORK THEIR WAY SOUTH. SO THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT CONFLICTING WITH THE DEVELOPMENT AT SHELBY DRIVE. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. AND LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. COME ON UP. EVENING, EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. STEPHEN WILLIAMS CRUZ DEVELOPMENT, 3035 CENTER OAK WAY IN GERMANTOWN. AND JAMIE'S GOING TO GET UP AND PASS OUT A QUIZ AFTER ALLISON'S PRESENTATION. SO WE'LL MAKE SURE EVERYBODY WAS LISTENING TO IT. BUT WHAT QUESTIONS WE GOT? I KNOW THE FIRST ONE THAT'S MOST RECENT IS JEREMY'S ON THE DITCH, THE CREEK, WHATEVER WE WANT TO CALL IT. THE NAME OF THE GAME FOR US IS DEVELOPERS.
AND WE'RE NOT NEW AT THIS IS TO DISTURB AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE WITH CONSTRUCTION. DISTURB COULD MEAN DISTURBING NATURAL GROUND TREES. IT COULD MEAN NEIGHBORS. WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS IN AND OUT AS POSSIBLE WITH THIS 30 YEAR OLD SUBDIVISION THAT WE'VE GOT. ANOTHER THING THAT I HEARD, I THINK, MISS FLETCHER, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ALLEYWAY. THAT WAS A CONCERN IN THE BEGINNING. WE ACTUALLY HAD A DIFFERENT PLAT LAYOUT THAT MATCHED WHAT WAS APPROVED, AND I THINK IT WAS 2005 WHERE THERE WAS A LOT RIGHT BEHIND THAT ALLEYWAY. AND WE MET WITH CHIEF WITT AND FIRE MARSHAL JOHNSON, AND WE'RE AGREEING TO PUT IN A PAVED DRIVEWAY. THEY'VE GOT THEIR KNOX BOX. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DISTURB ANY OF THAT. I WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM OFTEN, SO WE'RE WE'RE NOT WORRIED. AND ALLISON HIT IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD. ABOUT 48 HOURS IS ALL YOU NEED TO PUT THAT ACCESS IN. I DID WANT TO CORRECT ONE PORTION. YOU GOT A 99. THE TWO. LET ME SEE IF I CAN DO THIS. DON'T LAUGH AT ME IF I MESS THIS UP. MARK. OKAY, SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE FIRST PHASE, HAVING THIS CONNECTION HERE. OKAY. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO THIS CONNECTION HERE, BUT STOP IT AT THIS LIKE WE OFTEN DO. AND THAT'S PARTLY TO HAVE THE CONNECTION, PARTLY TO HAVE WATER LOOP FOR FIRE. AND THEN THE SHELBY DRIVE CONNECTION WILL BE THE LAST THING WE DO, WHICH WILL TIME OUT. GREAT. WITH THIS PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE DOT CAN COME IN AND DO THE ROAD WIDENING. I'VE WORKED WITH STAFF ENGINEER TIM GWALTNEY ON COORDINATION FOR THAT. AND ANOTHER FACTOR THAT YOU MAY NOT THINK ABOUT THIS IS A THIS WHOLE THING IS A MAGNOLIA HOMES POSTER CHILD. THEY'VE DONE EVERY HOUSE IN HERE BEFORE. I KNEW HOW TO DO ANYTHING WITH THIS STUFF. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR MARKETING, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO START ON SHELBY DRIVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'VE GOT A LOOMING ROAD WIDENING PROJECT, AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY AROUND TO MAKE A LOOP TO MARKET A LOT. SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE INTERIOR PHASE. H IS THE LAST THING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BMA APPROVED YEARS AGO, AND WE'LL JUST CONTINUE ON FROM THERE AND GET THIS THING BUTTONED UP IN THREE PHASES. AND HOW FAST IT GOES DEPENDS ON THAT HOUSING MARKET. SO HOPEFULLY FAST. BUT ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME OR
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ANY CONCERNS THAT YOU WANT TO BRING TO MY ATTENTION? QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT FOLKS, NOW WE'VE GOT SOME CARDS HERE. IF I CALL YOUR NAME, COME ON UP AND TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND TELL US WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND. I'M GOING TO START WITH JULIE ASHWORTH. SHE'S OUTSIDE TALKING IN HER CAR, AND SHE GIVEN HER TIME TO HER HUSBAND. SO, WES, IF YOU'D COME ON UP. HELLO, BOARD MEMBERS. MY NAME IS WES ASHWORTH. I LIVE AT 10815 COLLIERVILLE ROAD HERE IN COLLIERVILLE. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF COLLIERVILLE AND A PRACTICING CIVIL ENGINEER IN COLLIERVILLE FOR 46 YEARS, SO I'VE BEEN HERE A LONG TIME. TOO LONG SOMETIMES, BUT. BUT I HAVE WRITTEN LIKE A 4 OR 5 PAGE DOCUMENT HERE, AND I KNOW YOU JUST GOT IT. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'M GOING TO TRY NOT TO GO VERBATIM, BUT I'M GOING TO READ FROM THIS BECAUSE I CAN'T REMEMBER EITHER. BUT, YOU KNOW, FIRST I'LL ALSO SAY THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THIS HERE. IT. OH, OKAY. SO FIRST ON THIS WOODLAWN DRIVE TO THE WEST RIGHT HERE, I WAS THE ORIGINAL PROJECT ENGINEER FOR WOODLAWN 30 SOMETHING YEARS AGO FOR MIKE RUSSELL. AND AT THAT TIME MR. PEARL LIVED IN THIS HOUSE JUST TO THE WEST OF WOODLAWN DRIVE, RIGHT HERE. AND MR. PEARL SOLD THE LAND TO MR. RUSSELL. AND MR. PEARL DID NOT WANT TO GIVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE ROADWAY. HE DIDN'T WANT A BUNCH OF HOUSES UP IN FRONT OF THE ROADWAY. SO THAT'S WHY THIS LONG ROAD GOES BACK BEFORE HIS HOUSES OR THE WOODLAWN HOUSES START. AND THAT I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT SPEAKS TO WHAT THE ISSUES THAT I AND THE OWNERS ACROSS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT HAVE. SO WE DON'T WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT ANYTHING NORTH OF THIS CREEK THAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE DOING. SO ANY PHASES NORTH OF THE CREEK, WE DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE. IT'S PURELY SOUTH OF THE CREEK. 3373375 YES. YEAH, THIS CREEK RIGHT HERE. SO SO THERE'S THREE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE. ONE IS THE BUILDING SETBACKS. WE DON'T FEEL LIKE THIS PLAN ADEQUATELY, ADEQUATELY AT ALL ADDRESSES THE EXISTING RHYTHM AND NATURE OF THE EXISTING HOUSES ON SHELBY DRIVE IN THIS AREA. THAT'S A FAIRLY OBVIOUS THING. LOT SIZES WITHIN THIS AREA SOUTH OF THE CREEK, WE ALSO FEEL LIKE ARE NOT IN HARMONY AT ALL. WITH WHAT WHAT IS THERE. AND THEN FINALLY PRESERVATION OF EXISTING TREES. AND THEN I HAD ONE OTHER QUESTION IN THIS LETTER, AND I THINK STEVEN CAN ANSWER IT. ANSWER IT PRETTY READILY. BUT THERE IS NO DETENTION, STORMWATER DETENTION FOR THIS SOUTH SIDE OF THE BASIN OF THAT POND. THEY'VE GOT A DETENTION POND RIGHT HERE. IT'S NOT CIRCLING. HOW DO I GET THE CIRCLE? YEAH. I'LL JUST YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD SCREEN. YES. OKAY. SO THIS DETENTION POND RIGHT HERE, THERE'S A RIDGE LINE. YOU'RE GOING TO SAY IT. WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT SCREEN.OKAY. THERE WE GO. OKAY. THERE'S A RIDGE LINE RIGHT HERE. SO THAT WATER FLOWS THIS WAY.
THIS WATER FLOWS THIS WAY. THERE IS A DETENTION POND HERE, BUT THERE SHOULD BE A POND HERE.
UNLESS THIS POND WAS OVERSIZE DURING DESIGN AND I WANTED TO. THE EAST WAS OVERSIZE OVER DETAINED TO ALLOW THESE LOTS TO FLOW DIRECTLY TO THE CREEK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE SATISFIED WITH THAT. I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THE INFORMATION. SO FIRST I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BUILDING SETBACKS. AND THIS IS A GOOD. IF YOU LOOK ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN HERE.
THIS IS MR. YOCKEY'S HOUSE RIGHT HERE. HE'S HERE AND HE'S GOING TO SPEAK LATER. OKAY. AND
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THIS IS THE OLD PEARL HOUSE. I'M NOT SURE WHO OWNS IT RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS IS THE ORIGINAL HOUSE THAT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS. THAT'S THE FIRST HOUSE IN WOODLAWN. YOU CAN SEE THIS, RIGHT? OKAY. AND THEN IF YOU GO BACK TO THE COMPLETED PHASE OF OAKLAWN, THEIR HOUSING DON'T START HOUSES DON'T START UNTIL THEY'RE ABOUT EVEN WITH MR. YOCKEY'S PROPERTY. SO THERE'S ALREADY A CLEAR SET RHYTHM OF THE SETBACKS ON THESE HOUSES. AND IF YOU GO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, MISTER ROGERS, HE'S HERE, HE LIVES. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OFF THIS HERE. HE'S GOT A ABOUT A 600 SQUARE FOOT OR 600FT FROM THE CENTER LINE. IF YOU IF YOU CAN READ ALL THESE. THESE ARE ALL RIGHT. HERE ARE ALL DISTANCES FROM THE CENTER LINE OF SHELBY DRIVE EXISTING TO THE SETBACKS. SO THE. THE SMALLEST SETBACK IS ABOUT 250FT. SO THEIR PLAN COMING IN RIGHT HERE, IT'S 120FT. IT JUST WE DON'T FEEL LIKE IT WORKS AT ALL. SO.THERE'S A I'LL LET MATT TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE. BUT THE CARNIVAL HAS AN ORDINANCE ON THE BOOKS. IT'S 5151-.156I THINK IT IS THAT SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE DEVELOPMENTS NEED TO WORK WITHIN THESE ESTABLISHED SETBACKS. AND WITH THAT SAID.
SO I GET THREE MORE. THAT'S YOUR SIX MINUTES SERIES. WOW. OKAY. TIME FLIES WHEN YOU'RE HAVING FUN. THAT'S IT. OKAY, SO I'LL LET GO. I WILL SAY THAT THE SETBACK HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED WITH OAKWOOD SET OAKWOOD ON POPLAR BY ROB SMITH. TWO YEARS AGO, THEY REQUIRED US TO SET BACK 90FT WHEN THE ORDINANCE HAD 40FT. SO Y'ALL HAVE ALREADY REQUIRED THIS.
I'LL LET THEM SPEAK TO THE TREES. THE LOT SIZES. WE FEEL LIKE TWO ACRE LOTS, FOUR ACRE LOT ON THE OTHER SIDE. THIS THESE 15,000 SQUARE FOOT TO 2000 OR 12,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS DON'T DON'T WORK AT ALL. SO WE WOULD LIKE SOME OF THOSE LOTS COMBINED. AND I'LL TRY TO HAD MORE TO SAY, BUT THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MR. YAWKEY. MR. YOKI, COME ON UP.
HELLO. FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS MATT YOKI 10928 EAST SHELBY DRIVE, COLLIERVILLE. REALLY WHAT I THINK WHAT WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH HERE IS THE RHYTHM, THE CHARACTER, AND THE FLOW OF THE EXISTING PROPERTIES AROUND THERE. AND MY MY YARD IS ROUGHLY 100,000FT■!S, AND IT'S BACKING UP TO PROPERTIES THAT ARE 12 13,000FT■S RIGHT AGAINST ME, WITH NO REASONABLE BUFFER THAT I CAN SEE. AND IN THE CODE, I'LL JUST READ THIS TO YOU, IT'S 1151.154. IT'S UP ON THE SCREEN RIGHT HERE, SUBSECTION SEVEN IS TRANSITIONS. ANY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT SHALL BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE CHARACTER OF SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD AREA. WHEN LOCATE AN AREA WHERE LAND USE TYPES ENTER INTENSITIES OR DENSITIES VARY. THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE DESIGNED IN SUCH A MANNER AS TO PROVIDE FOR GRADUAL KEYWORD. GRADUAL CHANGES IN INTENSITY AND OR DENSITY. SO WHEN I'M LOOKING AT MY YARD BACKING UP TO, I GUESS MINIMUM OF 11,000FT■S, AND IN THE PLATS WE'VE GOT 13, SOME THOUSAND AND 12,000 RIGHT BEHIND ME. I MEAN, I JUST REASONABLY CAN'T SEE HOW THAT IS GRADUAL, A GRADUAL TRANSITION. AND IT ADDITIONALLY AND NUMBER EIGHT, RELATIONSHIP TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES. THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT SHALL INCLUDE ADDITIONAL SCREENING BUFFERING, TRANSITIONAL USES OTHER DESIGN FEATURES AS NECESSARY TO ADEQUATELY PROTECT EXISTING PROPERTIES OR PROPOSED USES OF SURROUNDING PROPERTY. I CAN'T SEE ANY BUFFER REALLY THERE OR ANY. THE TREE LINE WOULD SERVE AS A BUFFER, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD PRESERVE THAT.
AND LIKE WES SAID, WE'RE WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT RHYTHM, CHARACTER FLOW, PROTECTING THE THE VALUE OF THE EXISTING PROPERTIES AND HOW THEY WERE DESIGNED. AND, AND WITH THE
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SETBACK, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO GET SOME EXTRA SETBACK, KEEP SOME TREES AND MAYBE COMBINE SOME OF THE LOTS AND MAYBE A BIG ASK, BUT I'M JUST ASKING TO FOLLOW THE CODE OF WHAT YOU KNOW, OF WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE CITY ORDINANCE. RESPECTFULLY. AND THAT'S THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.THANK YOU, SIR. MR. JOE FINCH. MY NAME IS JOE FINCH. I LIVE AT FOUR, FIVE, SEVEN THREE WEST WOODLAWN CIRCLE, AND I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE WOODLAWN VILLAGE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.
MY GOAL IS BRIEF, IS TO COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE IS TO GET YOU TO RECONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT YOU HEARD, THE ONES THAT I'LL MAKE WHEN I ORIGINALLY SAW THE SUBMISSION OF THE DEVELOPMENT, IT WAS NO SURPRISE. WE'VE KNOWN IT'S COMING. IT'S YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED WITH HIM WHEN WE HAD THE ROAD, WHEN WE TOOK OWNERSHIP OF NIXON LEAF WAY, SO WE KNEW IT WAS COMING EARLY PLANS, PLAN SUBMISSIONS WITH THE TREE PRESERVATION PLANS. WE WERE EXCITED. IT WAS THE BEST LOOKING PROPOSAL WE'D SEEN RELATIVE TO THE NUMBER OF TREES THAT WERE PRESERVED LITERALLY ON THE DRAWING. AND THEN THE MOST RECENT ONE IS HUGELY DISAPPOINTING. IT'S DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT THAN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL IN FEBRUARY.
ON THE MAP, THE COMMON OPEN SPACE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOUR GRANDIOSE CALLING IT A CREEK IS A BIG DITCH. THE TREES IN IT AND IT FEEDS RIGHT INTO OUR PROPERTY AND ANY TREES THAT ARE REMOVED, ANY BRUSH THAT'S REMOVED IS HIGHLY LIKELY TO ACCELERATE THE WATER THROUGH OUR PROPERTY. NOW WE HAVE INDENTATIONS THAT ALLOW IT TO FLOW THROUGH. WE HAD FOUR INCHES OF RAIN THIS PAST WEEK AND WE'VE HAD NO FLOODING, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT THE DRAMATIC REDUCTION IN THE TREES AND THE INABILITY FOR THE RETENTION POND AT THE NORTH END OF THE DEVELOPMENT TO CONTRIBUTE TO CAPTURING ANYTHING. WE'RE AFRAID THAT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN WITH THOSE TREE REMOVALS. SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO REVISIT THAT ASPECT OF IT. AND ALSO THE EXISTING RETENTION PROPOSAL. ANOTHER ELEMENT THAT'S IN THIS PLAN IS THAT THERE'S NO FENCING AGAINST OUR LOT, AGAINST OUR DEVELOPMENT. AND THERE CAN'T BE, BECAUSE THAT COMMON AREA IS A DITCH AND THERE CAN'T BE A FENCE OVER THAT DITCH. SO IT COMPLICATES THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE ANY BUFFER BETWEEN OUR EARLY PART OF OUR DEVELOPMENT AND THIS NEW ONE. SO. THAT'S OUR COMMENTS. AND I BEG YOU TO RECONSIDER AND DISCUSS THIS FURTHER BEFORE DECISIONS ARE MADE. THANK YOU, MR. FINCH. ROBERT ROGERS. GOOD. 3,011,000,002 RELEASED INFORMATION WHEN THE WATER TO. YEAH THAT'S BEEN IN THE YELLOW LINES AND MEASUREMENTS AND SO FORTH. MY NAME IS BOB ROGERS. I'M A RETIRED ATTORNEY AND SHOPPING CENTER DEVELOPER. I LIVE ON A HORSE FARM DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS ENTRANCE, RIGHT AT 20 ACRES. A HOUSE. THE ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, 10895 EAST SHELBY DRIVE. THANK YOU. WE'RE AND I PERSONALLY ON MY PROPERTY CERTAINLY BE IMPACTED BY THE ROAD CONDEMNATION AND EMINENT DOMAIN. LOSING PLENTY OF TREES FROM THAT. BIG TREES, 100 PLUS YEAR OLD TREES. BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS ONE OF THE SPEAKERS BROUGHT UP IS, IS. YOU KNOW, AND LOOKING AT THAT, AND I KNOW IT'S A LONG WAY OFF, BUT THAT'S A THAT'S A LOT OF TREES, YOU KNOW, AND THAT AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT MOST OF THOSE TREES YOU SEE THAT ARE UP HERE, YOU KNOW, SHOWN IN THE
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EXISTING SITUATION. YOU SEE THAT'S WHERE THE THE CREEK OR DRAINAGE DITCH IS. MOST OF THOSE TREES, AS FAR AS THE DEVELOPER'S CONCERNED, THEY REPRESENT THAT. OH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE 96 TREES OR WHATEVER. THE PROBLEM IS THAT WHEN EACH LOT IS SOLD, IT'S NOT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. AND SO SOMEBODY'S BUILDING HOUSES ON EVERY ONE OF THOSE LOTS IN THE MAJORITY, THE HUGE MAJORITY OF THOSE TREES ARE GOING TO THE GROUND. SO WHAT'S THERE NOW THAT WOODLAWN. WANTS THAT BUFFER? WE WANT THAT BUFFER, AND WE WANT IT TO STAY AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, TAKING THAT DOWN TO 14, 15, 16 TREES IN A 30 IN A 60 FOOT EASEMENT AREA IS EXTREME. SECOND THING IS THAT THE ENTRANCE DRIVE WITH THE STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, IS NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO DO IN THREE MINUTES, OBVIOUSLY. BUT AT LEAST YOU CAN SEE THIS, THOSE THOSE THREE YELLOW AREAS ARE THE THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE SUBDIVISION ON THE EAST, THE DRIVEWAY FOR THE SUBDIVISION ON THE WEST AND THE PROPOSED DRIVE. THIS SUBDIVISION, THOSE TWO SUBDIVISIONS DID NOT START WITH THE HOUSES FOR 330FT IN DEPTH. YOU KNOW, NEXT TO MATT'S HOUSE IS A DETENTION POND AND THEN AN ENTRANCE. SAME THING ON THE OTHER SIDE. NEITHER ONE OF THEM HAVE MONUMENTS, JUST NICE NATURAL ENTRANCE DRIVES. WHAT'S BEING BASICALLY PUT FORWARD IS FOR THIS LITTLE AREA. THERE ARE TEN LOTS HOUSES. CUT THE TREES DOWN AND HAVE A BIG SIGN OUT THERE. AND AS YOU LOOK AT THIS OR AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE IT UP CLOSER, THEN WE'VE GOT THE DISTANCES FOR THE HOUSES, BUT WE'VE ALSO GOT THE DISTANCES FOR EACH FOR EACH OF THE ENTRANCE DRIVES. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR, FOR, FOR THEIR ENTRANCE DRIVE TO CONFORM TO THE TWO EXISTING ENTRANCE DRIVES OF THE SUBDIVISIONS ON THE EAST SIDE. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS, IS TO SIT DOWN WITH STAFF AND HAVE JUST A FEW DAYS TO EXPLAIN, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE DETAILS OF ALL OF THIS AND TO SIT DOWN WITH THE DEVELOPER AND SEE IF WE CAN WORK OUT SOME CONDITIONS AND, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF PROTECTION FOR THE TREES, THE CREEK AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE.THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU, MR. ROGERS. THANK YOU, MR. ROGERS. A MOTION. SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. CAN WE GO BACK AND ASK ASK THE APPLICANT SOME QUESTIONS. SURE CAN. SO STEPHEN, I HAVE A. CAN WE GO BACK TO THE MAP OF THE THE PROPOSED ON THE OVERLAY PLAN OF THE TREES. LET'S GO BACK WHERE WE SHOW THE DISTANCES AWAY FROM THE ROAD, PLEASE. THAT WAS THE SPEAKERS. OH, THAT WAS THE THIS ONE. YEAH. THIS ONE. SO STEVE AND I, SO I UNDERSTAND HERE WE'RE 120 FOOT FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE FIRST LOT. THAT'S RIGHT. AND THE MINIMUM DISTANCE THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE ON THE ROAD IS 243 IN 1 SPOT SOUTH RIGHT THERE. THERE'S A 243 FROM THE RIGHT OF WAY TO THE HOUSE. YES. SO IS THERE ANY ANY COMPROMISE HERE THE DEVELOPER MIGHT HAVE INTO TRYING TO HIT THAT. 243 OR COMPROMISING TO KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF THE FRONTAGE ALONG THE ROAD, WHICH MIGHT REQUIRE THAT YOU LOSE ONE LOT. SO I WISH Y'ALL COULD HAVE THE LANDSCAPE PLAN BY CHANCE ON Q. I'VE GOT IT BECAUSE THAT'S A LOT OF LANDSCAPE, LIKE A LOT, A LOT. AND ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU GO BACK TO WHERE WE WERE JUST AT THE HOUSE, I'M SORRY TO MAKE YOU JUMP AROUND. YOU KNOW, I, I DO VERY MUCH HEAR WHAT WE'RE SAYING AND I WISH, I WISH THIS HADN'T COME AT THE FINAL HOUR, BECAUSE I DO MAKE IT A POINT TO WORK WITH CITIZENS IS VERY MUCH MY M.O. AS A DEVELOPER TO SIT DOWN. I TELL EVERYBODY, YOU CAN TELL ME YOUR ISSUES, SCREAM,
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CUSS, AND IF YOU'RE OLD ENOUGH, I MIGHT LET YOU HIT ME ONCE. BUT THE PROBLEM IS THIS. THIS PD IS 30 YEARS OLD, AND THIS LAYOUT MARK WAS APPROVED IN 2005. AND SO 2005, I WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. SO I'M PLAYING CATCH UP HERE AND JUST FINISHING OUT SOMETHING THAT HAD ALREADY STARTED. AND SO COMING IN AND LOSING LOTS WHEN WE'RE ALREADY UNDER THE DENSITY REQUIREMENT, I DON'T THINK IT'S AN OPTION. AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO COME IN. IF YOU CAN SEE THIS ROADWAY SECTION HERE, THAT ROADWAY SECTION IS GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO WHERE IT WIDENS BACK OUT INTO A FOUR LANE. AND SO THAT CHANGES THE CHARACTER OF THE AREA. AND THEN WE ALSO LOOK AT JUST DOWN SOUTH, YOU CAN'T QUITE SEE IT, BUT WOODGROVE ON SHELBY DRIVE IS EVEN CLOSER THAN WHAT WE HAVE.I YEARS AGO, JEREMY, YOU AND I LOOKED AT THE LAST LOT ON WOODGROVE BACK THERE IN THAT CORNER, LOT 112. I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S EVEN CLOSER IN THIS VICINITY. BUT YOU CAN SEE UP HERE WE'VE GOT THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD. WE TALK ABOUT STORMWATER DETENTION. I THINK STEPHEN RUSSELL MADE IT CLEAR THAT THE DETENTION BASIN ON THEIR SIDE WAS OVERSIZE FOR THESE LOTS. AND OUR DETENTION BASIN, WHICH, I MEAN, YOU GO TO SOME OF OUR SUBDIVISIONS, WE THROW LANDSCAPING, WE TRY AND MAKE THESE THINGS LOOK AS PRETTY AS POSSIBLE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. THE OTHER THING IS WE DON'T JUST GO IN AND MOW TREES DOWN. THAT'S NOT NOT OUR PREROGATIVE. LIKE WE SEE PRETTY TREES. WE TRY TO KEEP THEM. OAK HILL SUBDIVISION THAT WE'VE GOT ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF TOWN, DOING EVERYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE THE NEIGHBORS HAVE SOME KIND OF A BUFFER. IT'S JUST REALLY HARD TO FIGURE OUT WHAT A COMPROMISE IS. RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, WHEN I FEEL LIKE THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON CONSENT AGENDA. REALLY. AND I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS THAT? WHAT IS THAT LOT WITH 94? THAT'S THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH, THE ONE RIGHT THERE ADJACENT TO THE 120. OR ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT ONE RIGHT THERE? I MEAN, IT'S AT LEAST 90FT. IT'S AT LEAST 90FT. ALL THESE. AND WELL, IT WAS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL TO, TO SHOW ALLISON GRAPHICALLY SOMEHOW THAT ALL THESE ARE A MINIMUM OF 90FT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE REGULATION. I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF THAT WOULD BE WHAT. 210 223213 IF WE LOST THE 90 FOOT LOT, STILL NOT HITTING THE. 243 BUT YEAH, BUT I'M, I'M, IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE HARD FOR ME TO AGREE TO LOSE A LOT. IT JUST IS WHEN, WHEN WE'VE HAD A 21 YEAR OLD LAYOUT THAT EVERYBODY WAS FINE WITH. QUICK QUESTION. YES, Y'ALL ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH ALL OF THE CONDITIONS THE TOWN IS PUT ON IT, CORRECT? CORRECT. THE QUESTION I AND WE HAVE THIS IS NOT I MEAN, HONESTLY, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE BEEN AT THIS MEETING A MONTH AGO, BUT WE'VE WORKED WITH ALLISON. WELL, SHE HAD DENSITY QUESTIONS BECAUSE YOU GET INTO THE SPIDER WEB OF THESE PDES, AND THANKFULLY MARK'S DONE EVERY ONE OF THEM EXCEPT ONE AMENDMENT. AND YOU I'VE BEEN ON THE DESIGN ENGINEER. THAT'S MY BACKGROUND IS DESIGN ENGINEERING. AND THIS STAFF DOES NOT LET YOU JUST SKATE ON ONE, WHICH IS GOOD FOR ME AND BAD FOR ME AT TIMES. BUT YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN THROUGH THE WRINGER. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. COMMISSIONERS, I HAVE A QUESTION TO ADDRESS THE THE ISSUE ABOUT WHAT TREES WILL STAY AND WHO MAKES THE DECISION ABOUT WHAT TREES WILL STAY. SO IT'S OBVIOUSLY I MEAN, IF THERE'S AN INDIVIDUAL LOT THAT THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT DECISIONS ON THAT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE FOR THAT 120 FOOT BUFFER, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE DEVELOPER'S DECISION. AND YOU GUYS ARE COMMITTED TO PRESERVING THE TREES. IS THAT YES. YEAH. THE GRADING PLAN. YOU CAN PULL BACK UP. OKAY. RIGHT THERE. SO IF YOU LOOK IN HERE, A SOLID LINE LIKE THIS GUY OR THIS GUY REPRESENTS A PROPOSED GRADE. AND SO IF IF THERE'S A TREE THAT'S CLOSE TO THAT, IT MIGHT BE IMPACTED IF YOU HIT THE ROOT SYSTEM. BUT WE TRY AND AVOID THAT AT ALL COSTS. YOU KNOW, WE TRY TO DO THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF GRADING TO MAKE THE SITE BALANCE TO MAKE WATER DRAIN PROPERLY. WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT OUR NEIGHBORS TO HAVE WATER ISSUES IF WE GO IN. ONE GENTLEMAN BROUGHT UP CLEARING THE TREES THROUGH THE CREEK. I HAVE REALLY NO INTENTIONS OF GOING IN AND CLEARING A BUNCH OF
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TREES AND A CREEK BECAUSE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY LIKE, THE NATURAL WOODED AREA. IF YOU GO TO THE MORE NORTHERN PARTS OF THIS SUBDIVISION, THE CREEKS UP THERE TOO, THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY PLANTED MORE TREES IN. JAMIE COULD SPEAK TO HOW MANY TREES I HAD TO PLANT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AS PART OF TREE MITIGATION. I MEAN, IT WAS WELL OVER. WAS IT OVER 100? IT WAS OVER 100 LESS, PROBABLY LESS THAN TWO. LESS THAN TWO. I THINK LIKE 140 IS WHERE I JUST WENT OUT AND PLANTED TO THE POINT WHERE THE PEOPLE GOT MAD AT ME FOR PLANTING TREES. SO WE WANT TO KEEP THINGS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE. IF WE HAVE BUFFERS ON FENCE LINES THERE, THERE WILL BE BACKYARD FENCES ALONG PROPERTY LINES, JUST LIKE YOU KNOW, EVERYWHERE ELSE. LIKE THEY'LL PROBABLY BE A FENCE HERE, BUT YOU KNOW, THOSE WILL BE CONSTRUCTED SO THOSE LOTS CAN DRAIN. JUST GOING BY THE BOOK, WHAT YOU SEE FOR SEVERAL HOMES NORTH OF THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE CONTINUATION OF DOWN HERE. I MEAN, STEPHEN, JUST TO BE CLEAR THOUGH, WHERE THE ROAD IS, YOU'RE GOING TO CLEAR ALL THOSE TREES WHERE THE LOTS. 373, 375 YOU'RE GOING TO CLEAR ALL THOSE TREES UP TO A CERTAIN PART ON THE DITCH. THAT'S WHY. OR CREEK, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT.THAT'S WHY I ASKED IF THERE WAS A RIPARIAN ZONE FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE BECAUSE THREE, 73, 71 AND THREE ALL THROUGH 375, THERE'S GOING TO BE LOTS, RIGHT? THESE ARE ALL LOTS, RIGHT? SO SO I DON'T HAVE TO TOUCH ANYTHING RIGHT HERE UNTIL THE HOMEBUILDER GETS IN. AND THIS IS A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN. THIS IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE. THIS IS JUST CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS NOT THE FINAL PLAT THAT WOULD BE APPROVED WOULD BE PRESENTED FOR APPROVAL. WELL THIS YOU WOULD APPROVE THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS. THIS IS JUST THE CONCEPT CONCEPTUAL AT THIS POINT. I THINK THE POINT THAT I'M MAKING SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS IS THAT'S THE CREEK RIGHT THERE. THEY'RE GOING TO CLEAR ALL THOSE TREES ON THREE, 73, 75. THE ONLY TREES THAT ARE GOING TO REMAIN ARE GOING TO BE FROM THE CENTER LINE OF THE CREEK OUT SO FAR. CORRECT. AND THE BUILDING ENVELOPE, SO THAT YOU USUALLY CALL THAT A RIPARIAN ZONE, THAT YOU ONLY GO WITHIN SO MANY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A RIPARIAN. I KNOW YOU DON'T BECAUSE IT'S NOT A NATURAL AREA, BUT YOU'RE SAYING ALONG THAT CREEK SO FAR OUT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH IT BECAUSE IT COST YOU MONEY TO DEAL WITH IT? WELL, IT'S NOT JUST THAT THOUGH. I MEAN, IT'S A NATURAL FEATURE. LIKE WHEN I COME IN HERE AND BUILD THIS ROAD, ALL THIS IS THE CREEK. AND WHEN I COME AND BUILD THE ROAD, THIS IS THE LIMIT OF CONSTRUCTION WHERE THOSE GRADE LINES ARE. THIS IS NOT GOING TO YOU KNOW, I WISH I KNEW WHEN IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR A DECADE. BUT AT SOME POINT, IF WE APPROVE THIS, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO TO DEVELOP THEM. YES, WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEVELOP IT.
BUT JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER SUBDIVISION IN THIS TOWN, WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS GENTLE AS POSSIBLE WITH IT AND STILL GET THE OUTCOME WE WANT, THE OUTCOME THAT THE TOWN HAS VOTED ON THIS SEVERAL TIMES. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO COME IN AND BRING IT TO FRUITION. AND I THINK THE POINT I THINK YOU JUST MADE A GOOD POINT AS FAR AS THE CHARACTER OF THIS THIS ENTRANCE, I MEAN, THIS ENTRANCE IS NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED UNTIL WE ALREADY HAVE A FOUR LANE ROAD. SO THE CHARACTER OF THAT ROAD AND THAT PROPERTY IS, IS IT'S ALL GOING TO CHANGE AT ONCE. AND OUR TOWN HAS STEEP REQUIREMENTS FOR VEGETATION ON THESE LANDSCAPE PLANS LIKE THESE ARE NOT EASY BUILDS, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE COMPLEXITY OF THAT PLAN. LIKE IT'S IF YOU GO LOOK ON THE ON CARVEL ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A REALLY GREAT ENTRANCE.
YEAH. THAT'S TRUE. IT'S ALL SUBJECT TO CHANGE AT THIS POINT. I MEAN, IT'S ALL SPECULATION RIGHT NOW. WHAT SPECULATION. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT COMMISSIONERS.
CHAIRMAN I'VE GOT A COUPLE QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. STEPHEN VICE MAYOR FOR STAFF TO HERE WE GO. AND OVER THE YEARS AND THIS IS MY QUESTION IS I'M NOT SURE WHAT IS. THERE'S BEEN GENTLEMEN'S AGREEMENTS. I REMEMBER WHEN MIKE RUSSELL DEVELOPED THE WOODLAWN AND THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE HOUSES THEY BROUGHT UP IN THE TRANSITION OF THE LAND AND STUFF. I EVEN REMEMBER WHEN MAGNOLIA DEVELOPED THIS SUBDIVISION AT AT FLETCHER AND SHELBY DRIVE, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION. JAMIE, THIS IS WHERE I'M GOING TO RELY ON YOU TO GIVE US A CALL BACK ON THIS. A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT TRANSITION TO THOSE LOTS THAT WERE TWO AND FOUR ACRE LOTS. AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF, OF, OF HOW THE STREETS WENT ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT AND THE TRANSFORMATION OF R2, R2, A OF SOME SORT THAT THE DEVELOPER HAD TO GO BACK IN THERE AND CORRECT THAT TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS A GOOD TRANSITION. I'M THROWING A LOT OF THINGS AT YOU, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING IN WRITING WITH WITH MIKE RUSSELL AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ON THE SETBACK FOR WOODLAWN, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THEY HAVE PRESENTED TO US HERE WITH THIS SETBACK LINE, AND THEN ALSO THE TRANSITION OF THE LOTS THAT I KNOW THE BOARD HAD TO GO THROUGH WITH MAGNOLIA HOMES IN IN TRANSITION TO A STATE LOTS.
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SURE. SO HOW DOES THAT FALL INTO PLAY WITH HOW THIS IS LAID OUT, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT MAGNOLIA WAS BUILDING AND DEVELOPING OVER THERE? I'M NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH THE WOODLAWN REQUIREMENTS AND AGREEMENTS. I DIDN'T PREPARE THAT FOR TONIGHT. BUT SPEAKING ABOUT THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS REFERENCED AND THE EXPERIENCE AT AT MAGNOLIA PRESERVE, WHICH WAS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE ALLUDING TO AT AT FLEMING AND SHELBY, THAT WAS A BRAND NEW PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. AND THE STANDARDS THAT WERE REFERENCED TONIGHT BY THE NEIGHBOR WOULD APPLY TO A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT. AND THOSE THOSE ARE REAL STANDARDS. AND WE WOULD APPLY THAT. THAT'S THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING HERE TONIGHT. WE'RE CONSIDERING A PRELIMINARY PLAT THAT IS A PART. IMPLEMENTING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS APPROVED IN 1999. SO SOME OF THOSE STANDARDS ABOUT COMPATIBILITY DIDN'T EVEN EXIST YET. THOSE CAME CAME MUCH LATER.SO I'D SAY THOSE ARE REAL STANDARDS. BUT BUT I DON'T I DON'T THINK THOSE APPLY IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING A BRAND NEW PD. THEY'RE NOT SIGNIFICANTLY AMENDING THE PD. WHAT STEPHEN MENTIONED ABOUT A LAYOUT FOR THIS THIS AREA, THERE HAS BEEN A CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT AND A PREVIOUS PLANNER THAT WAS HERE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THE LAYOUT THAT'S BEHIND ME, THIS IS A 2018 VERSION. AND THEN THERE'S A. AND I WAS ABLE TO FIND THIS ONE FROM 2014. BUT THEN IT GOES BACK FURTHER THAN THAT. BUT THERE WAS A THIS CONCEPTUAL LAYOUT FOR ALL OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND THERE WAS A VERY DIFFERENT VERSION OF OUR PD ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRED SOME KIND OF A CONCEPTUAL MASTER PLAN BE PRESENTED. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT MASTER PLAN DATES BACK TO WHAT WHAT THEY WERE SAYING BACK TO AROUND 2005 OR SO. I CAN'T FIND, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE OF WHEN IT WAS APPROVED, BUT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING IN RELIANCE UPON THIS LAYOUT THAT SHOWS THE LOTS ABOUT WHERE THEY WHERE THEY HAVE THEM. SO ALL THAT SAID, ALL THAT TO SAY, I THINK I THINK CRUZ IS TRYING TO IMPLEMENT A PLAN. THEY BOUGHT THIS PROPERTY AND IMPLEMENTING A PLAN BASED IN RELIANCE UPON THIS PLAN. I DON'T THINK WE CAN IMPOSE NEW STANDARDS THAT WERE DEVELOPED LATER AFTER THIS PD WAS WELL ESTABLISHED. THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T REQUIRE LANDSCAPING AND AND NEW TREES.
AND THEY ARE THEY ARE SAVING A BIG CHUNK OF TREES, ALMOST A HUNDRED. THAT WOULD COUNT TOWARDS CREDIT. AND THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE ONES THAT MIGHT THEY JUST MIGHT LEAVE ON THE, ON THE LOTS. BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY PLANT ALMOST 300 TREES THAT THEY NEED IN THE POST-DEVELOPMENT CONDITION, SO THAT THAT WILL HELP WITH THAT. BUT THAT, THAT THIS LAYOUT DOES APPEAR TO BE BINDING AND THEY'RE DEVELOPING A RELIANCE UPON THAT. SO, JAMIE, I HAVE A QUESTION. WHY IS THIS NOT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA? I WANTED TO GIVE ALLISON A CHANCE TO PRESENT TO YOU. SHE'LL BE PRESENTING TO YOU IN JUNE. AND AND THIS IS HER FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT. AND I'M BEING STRAIGHT UP SERIOUS. YEAH. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT OR STAFF? CAN YOU DO THAT TO US? THANK YOU SIR, I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION. I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR OAK GROVE PD PHASE FOUR, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN EXHIBIT TWO. SECOND. ALL RIGHT. MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. DO I HEAR A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT? COMMISSIONERS, I THINK WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THIS IS YOU CAN'T CHANGE CHANGE RULES ON PEOPLE. THIS THIS PD HAS BEEN THERE FROM SINCE, WHAT, 99 OR 98? YEAH. AND THIS IS THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL THIS IS PRELIMINARY.
THIS IS NOT A ANYTHING CHISELED IN STONE AT THIS POINT. YES, SIR. HEARING NO DISCUSSION.
ALLISON. ALLISON. ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL, MR. DUBOSE. YES, DOCTOR. GREEN. YES.
MR. BATES. YES. MR. SLED. YES. MISS. FLETCHER. YES. MR. GIVEN. YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. AND NOW WE'LL MOVE ON TO CASE NUMBER 264780. AND SHE WAS GOING TO
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MAKE THE PRESENTATION. YES. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. THE APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER, CARSON LOONEY IS REQUESTING FOR APPROVAL TO REZONE A 0.3 ACRE TRACT FROM R1 LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO T N TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE INTENT TO DEVELOP A NEW RESIDENTIAL[01:05:02]
DWELLING. THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED EAST OF NATCHEZ PARK LANE SOUTH SIDE OF NATCHEZ STREET AND IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER N AND R1 PROPERTIES. HERE IS A COMPARISON OF THE MAPS SHOWING THE EXISTING ZONING AND THE PROPOSED ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. THE ZONING STANDARDS HIGHLIGHT THE DIFFERENCES IN THE DISTRICTS IN TERMS OF LOT SIZE, LOT WIDTH AND SETBACKS. THE ZONING DISTRICT ALLOWS FOR SMALLER SETBACKS THAN R1, BUT THE DRC ALSO COULD REQUIRE GREATER SETBACKS DURING THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS PROCESS. TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THIS HISTORIC BUILDING PLACEMENT ON THIS BLOCK, THE CURRENT LOT WIDTH IS ABOUT 87FT WIDE, WHICH MEETS THE T N BULK REQUIREMENTS FOR STREET LOADED LOTS, BUT IS NOT WIDE ENOUGH TO BE DIVIDED INTO MULTIPLE STREET LOTS UNDER THE PROPOSED T N ZONING. THE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE HISTORIC OVERLAY, BUT IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE NATIONAL NATIONAL REGISTER. THE HTC WILL REVIEW THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURES AND THE DESIGN OF THE NEW STRUCTURES IN RELATIONSHIP TO ITS PLACEMENT ON THE LOT AND OTHER STRUCTURES ON THE BLOCK. NEARBY DEVELOPMENTS INCLUDE WASHINGTON GATES PD, THE TWININGS OF COLLIERVILLE SUBDIVISION, STRIDENT HEIGHTS SUBDIVISION, FREDE SUBDIVISION AND HOMEWOOD PLACE SUBDIVISION, ALL OF WHICH ARE ZONED T N EXCEPT THE SUBDIVISION. THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE WILL ONLY AFFECT THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY. THE USE OF THE PROPERTY WILL CONTINUE TO REMAIN A SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL. THE EXISTING 1900 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1915, AND SINCE THEN, NO MAJOR RENOVATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE, AND THE LUNIZ PURCHASED THE PROPERTY IN DECEMBER OF 2019. THE PROPOSED REZONING SUPPORTS THE GOALS OF THE 2010 SMALL AREA PLAN AND THE 2040 LAND USE PLAN. BY ENCOURAGING COMPATIBILITY, SINGLE FAMILY INFILL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE TRADITIONAL WITH THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AREA ALONG NATCHEZ STREET. ALTHOUGH THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE RECOMMENDED RANGE AT 2.6 UNITS PER ACRE, THE T N DISTRICT FORM BASED DESIGN STANDARDS ARE INTENDED TO ENSURE NEW DEVELOPMENT REMAINS CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORIC CHARACTER AND ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD PATTERNS OF DOWNTOWN COLLIERVILLE, SUCH AS STRATTON HEIGHTS, HOMEWOOD PLACE, AND THE TWININGS. TRAFFIC IMPACTS, AS WELL AS WATER AND SEWER DEMAND WILL NOT INCREASE SINCE THE PROPERTY IS REMAINING AS ONE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND WILL BE REPLACED BY THE THE ALREADY INSTILLED TOWN UTILITIES. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE ZONING REQUEST AS THE REZONING PROPERTY TO T N IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GROUNDS TO AMEND THE ZONING MAP AND HELP FURTHER IMPLEMENT THE DOWNTOWN SMALL AREA PLAN. THE MOTION IS ON YOUR SCREEN ALONG WITH THE APPLICANT'S NEXT STEPS.AND THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. GOOD AFTERNOON. CARSON LOONEY 195 EAST POPLAR, COLLIERVILLE. I THINK IT'S PRETTY PRETTY MUCH A NO BRAINER. HOPEFULLY EASY CASE FOR YOU TODAY. THE ONLY JOY I HAVE IS THE PAIN OF HAVING TO PAY $2,000 TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE TOWN ALREADY WANTS. QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. I APPRECIATE YOUR POSITIVE VOTE. ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. CALL FOR A MOTION.
CAN YOU PUT THE MOTION UP ON THE SCREEN? THANK YOU. SO WE JUST TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL, I MOVE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF ORDINANCE 2020 604. SECOND MOTION MADE IN SECOND. DO I HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL DOCTOR. GREEN. YES. MR. BATES. YES. MR. SLED YES, MISS. FLETCHER. YES. MR. GIBBON. YES. MR. DUBOSE. YES. MR. STAMPS. YES. MR.
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COTTON. YES. RIGHT. NOW, THIS HOUSE. WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR US? JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK[9 Development Updates (new cases, administrative reviews, etc.)]
UPDATE ON SOME DEVELOPMENT CASES THAT ARE PENDING AND A COUPLE OF QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS.USE THE DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY MAP. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, WHEN WE PULL UP THE MAP. OFF TO THE SIDE, WE'VE GOT A LIST OF THE MOST RECENT PROJECTS THAT HAVE COME IN AND WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE NEW MCDONALD'S. THE BMA DID APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN.
THEY'VE TURNED INTO THE FINAL SITE PLAN FOR THAT SAINT GEORGE'S NATATORIUM ADDITION. I HAD TO LOOK THAT UP. I WASN'T REALLY FAMILIAR, BUT THAT'S APPARENTLY AN INDOOR SWIMMING POOL. SO SAINT GEORGE'S, THEY HAVE A GREAT, GREAT POOL. MY KIDS LEARN TO SWIM THERE AND THEY'RE GOING TO ADD ON ON TO THAT FACILITY, SOUTH CENTER. THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR FINAL SITE PLAN FOR THE THE PROJECT THAT YOU'VE SEEN AND APPROVED OR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE AT A PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN LEVEL, THEY'RE WORKING WITH HTC ON THE BRICK COLOR. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ONE OF THE BIGGEST OUTLYING THINGS, BUT THEY'RE ON THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY TO THE BMA SOON. WE ALSO HAVE AN AMENDMENT TO THE HINTON PRESERVE PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'LL SEE AT YOUR NEXT AGENDA. AND THEY WANT THE GATE, THE STREETS. THEY WANT TO MAKE THE STREETS PRIVATE AND GATE THEM. AND THAT THAT WOULD TAKE AN AMENDMENT TO TO UNDO SOME THINGS OR TO CLARIFY THAT THEY THEY WOULD BE PRIVATE STREETS, THEIR PROS AND CONS TO THAT. SO THAT'LL BE A HEALTHY DISCUSSION ON WHY DO WE HAVE PUBLIC STREETS? WHY DO WHY DO PEOPLE WANT A GATE STREETS AND WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS IF THEY ARE GATED? AND THEN I WANTED TO ALSO TOUCH BASE ON ANOTHER ONE WATER TOWER DISTRICT PHASE TWO. YOU'VE APPROVED THE PRELIMINARY SITE PLAN FOR THIS. THIS IS THE FINAL. THEY HAD MORE DWELLING UNITS THAN 200. THEY DECIDED IT WAS ABOUT 240 SOMETHING THAT THEY HAD. THEY'VE DECIDED NOT TO BUILD ALL OF THOSE. THEY WANT TO RETAIN SOME UNITS THAT THEY WOULD USE INSIDE OF THE HORSESHOE AT A LATER POINT, SO THAT THAT IS MOVING FORWARD. BUT THESE ARE APPROVALS AND ENTITLEMENTS THAT GO WAY BACK PRIOR TO 2012. AND SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NO NET GAIN POLICY. AND THAT'S THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT AS FAR AS NEW NEW APPLICATIONS GO. ANY QUESTIONS ON DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS OR ANYTHING YOU'VE SEEN AROUND TOWN? ANY. YES. THIS RECURRING QUESTION ABOUT OUR FAMOUS HOTEL. YES, YES. AND NATHAN'S HERE. HE PROBABLY KNOWS AS MUCH MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I DO. BUT WE HAVE FILED A LAWSUIT. YES. WE FILED A LAWSUIT IN, I'M SORRY, IN CHANCERY COURT THAT WIND UP IN MELANIE TAYLOR JEFFERSON WENT INTO CHANCELLOR JEFFERSON, WENT IN, WENT INTO. SO WE FILED A LAWSUIT SEEKING INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AND ALSO DAMAGES FOR THE FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT CONTRACT. THE COURT HAS SET A HEARING DATE OF JULY, THE SECOND FOR THE INJUNCTION HEARING. IN THE INTERIM, WE'VE HEARD FROM COUNSEL FROM THE HOTEL DEVELOPER, AND THEY'VE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST IN TRYING TO WORK WITH US TO MEET OUR CONCERNS. SO WE'RE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC THAT WE'VE GOT THEIR ATTENTION AND THAT WE WILL BRING SOME PROGRESS TO THE SITUATION. THAT IT. A COUPLE OF QUICK ANNOUNCEMENTS. TRAINING
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ON FRIDAY SENT OUT AN OUTLOOK INVITE ABOUT THAT TO GET SOME OF YOUR CREDITS ON THE MEETING IN JUNE. WE DO HAVE AT LEAST TWO CASES IN RESERVE. I MENTIONED BEFORE IN THE GATED STREETS. WE ALSO HAVE ANOTHER REZONING REQUEST FOR TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. THIS WAS ON SOUTH STREET. A LADY NAMED SHEILA MCCAULEY HAS PURCHASED A LOT AND SHE WANTS TO BUILD A NEW HOUSE THERE. AND SHE AND THREE OF HER NEIGHBORS GOT TOGETHER, AND THEY'RE GOING TO REZONE ALL FOUR LOTS AT THE SAME TIME. THEY MAY WANT TO ADD ON TO THEIR HOUSE IN TEN AS AS MR. LOONEY'S REALIZING, HAS SOME MORE FLEXIBLE SETBACKS FOR SIDE AND REAR PROPERTY LINES, THE JUNE JULY PLANNING COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE ON A MONDAY NIGHT, JULY 6TH, BECAUSE OF THE FOURTH HOLIDAY. WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT WOULD BE ON THAT AGENDA YET, AND JUST A FRIENDLY REMINDER ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CHARRETTE WEEK FOR NEXT WEEK. THE SCHEDULE IS ON THE SCREEN. I DID SEND THAT OUT EARLIER.THERE ARE A COUPLE OF REALLY BIG THINGS THAT I THINK THAT Y'ALL MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN.
AT 630 ON TUESDAY, WE'LL HAVE A KEYNOTE SPEAKER AT THE AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, COLLIERVILLE HIGH SCHOOL THAT WILL COME IN AND TALK ABOUT PLANNING AND GET US ALL JAZZED UP ABOUT THAT. AND THEN THE BIG CONCLUSION IS ON THURSDAY, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN OPEN HOUSE OUT IN THE LOBBY
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OF TOWN HALL FROM 530 TO 630, AND THEN IN THIS ROOM AT 630 WILL BE THE GRAND UNVEILING OF WHAT CAME OUT OF CHARETTE WEEK. BUT WE'RE REALLY, REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT. THE STEERING COMMITTEE IS WORKING REALLY HARD TO PRODUCE A GREAT PLAN, AND THE CONSULTANTS WILL BE IN TOWN ALL WEEK DOING A VARIETY OF THINGS AND SKETCHING, AND SHOULD BE A LOT OF FUN.THAT'S ALL WE
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