* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:02] ALRIGHT, SORRY. YEAH. [1 Call to order] ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GONNA CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER AND WE START WITH THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE. CHAIRMAN FRAZIER. COMMISSIONER HUTH? HERE. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? HERE. COMMISSIONER FLOYD Q. CHAIRMAN. LETRELL HERE. ALRIGHT. [3 Selection of Officers] AND WE'LL START WITH SELECTION OF OFFICERS. UM, ANY NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIRMAN? UH, NOMINATE, UH, COMMISSIONER. ELECTORAL AS CHAIRMAN. SECOND. ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? MOVE TO SET. SET. ACCLAMATION. . IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH THAT, THEN THAT'S FINE. DO WE NEED TO VOTE OR CAN WE? OKAY. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? YES. COMMISSIONER HUTH? YES. COMMISSIONER FLOYD? YES. COMMISSIONER LETRELL? YES. ALRIGHT. FOR, UH, NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIRMAN. LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. FRAZIER. FLOYD. FLOYD. SORRY, . I WAS LOOKING HERE. I'LL SECOND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHERS? MS. FOLK? COMMISSIONER FLOYD? YES. COMMISSIONER HETH? YES. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? YES. CHAIRMAN LETRELL? YES. ALRIGHT. AND FOR SECRETARY OF NOMINATIONS. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS. FIRST, SECOND. ALRIGHT. COMMISSIONER FLOYD? YES. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? YES. COMMISSIONER HUDSPETH? YES. CHAIRMAN LETELL? YES. ALRIGHT. AND [4 Approval of Minutes] MOTION FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 20TH, 2025. WASN'T HERE. SO, UH, THE MINUTES AS THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRINTED, ANY CHANGES, ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? IS THAT A MOTION? A MOTION TO ACCEPTANCE EXCEPT FOR THAT AS IT PRINTED. OKAY. UM, COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS, I'LL ABSTAIN FROM THIS. OKAY. COMMISSIONER FLOYD? YES. COMMISSIONER HUTH ABSTAIN. COMMISSIONER LULL? YES. [5 Approval of Agenda (additions/deletions)] ALRIGHT. AND ANY, UH, CHANGES OR ADDITIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? CHAIRMAN, THERE ARE NO CHANGES OR ADDITIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT UH, LINE ITEM IS CITIZEN COMMENTS. NOW THIS IS NOT IN REGARD TO OUR FORMAL AGENDA. THIS IS OUTSIDE OF CASE NUMBER 2 5 3 3 8 4. SO IF THERE'S ANY GENERAL COMMENTS THAT CITIZENS WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IN REGARDS TO THE TOWN, PLEASE COME FORWARD. ALRIGHT, [7.a Case #253384 – 560 Bray Station Road – Request Approval of a Variance to allow a single-family dwelling to encroach into the required side yard setbacks.] I'LL TAKE THAT AS A PASS AND WE WILL NOW MOVE ON TO OUR FORMAL AGENDA. UH, JUST AS A MOMENT TO CLARIFY KIND OF HOW THE PROCESS WORKS, SINCE WE HAVE PROBABLY PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER BEEN TO THESE MEETINGS BEFORE. UH, THE TOWN'S GONNA PRESENT, UH, THE, THE CASE. UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE TOWN, THEN WE'RE GONNA ASK THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD, UH, AND TALK ABOUT THE CASE. WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE APPLICANT QUESTIONS AT THAT POINT. IF YOU'VE FILLED OUT ONE OF THE BLUE CARDS AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, YOU'LL COME TO THE FRONT, TO THE MICROPHONE. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THREE MINUTES. IF YOU START TO RAMBLE, THEN I'LL CUT YOU OFF AT THREE MINUTES, BUT IF YOU'RE LIKE TWO SECONDS OVER, I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE GRACE AND, UH, WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT. AND THEN AFTER THAT WE'LL HAVE AN OPEN DISCUSSION UP HERE. ONCE WE HAVE OPEN DISCUSSION, THAT'S NOT A TIME FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE TO TALK, SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE Y'ALL A LITTLE RUNDOWN OF HOW IT'LL LOOK. SO, UH, LET'S START, UH, WITH OUR ONLY CASE, UH, TODAY, CASE NUMBER 2 5 3 3 8 4 5 60 BRACE STATION ROAD. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. GOOD EVENING. AND YEAH, THE APPLICANT JEFF BRAMLETT WITH CUSTOM RE RESIDENTIAL DESIGNS ON BEHALF OF PROPERTY OWNERS. BRANDON AND AMY SMITH IS REQUESTING FOR A VARIANCE TO ALLOW A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING TO ENCROACH INTO THE REQUIRED SIDE YARD [00:05:01] SETBACKS. THE PROPERTY IS ZONED FAR FOREST AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL AND IS SURROUNDED BY OTHER FAR AND R ILL LARGE LIVE PROPERTIES AND IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF BRACE STATION ROAD. THE PROPERTY OWNERS PURCHASED THE VACANT LOT IN 2023. THE LOT HAS REMAINED UNDEVELOPED UNTIL NOW AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE INDICATING THAT A DWELLING WAS EVER CONSTRUCTED ON THE SAID PROPERTY BEFORE THE 1970S. THE BRACE STATION ROAD AREA CURRENTLY HAS PUBLIC WATER SERVICES AVAILABLE BUT NOT PUBLIC SEWER SERVICES. THE PETITIONERS AT THE TIME DECLINED THE PROPOSAL FOR SUE SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE TO MAINTAIN THE AREA'S EXISTING CHARACTER LEAVING PROPERTIES SERVICED BY SEPTIC TANK SYSTEMS AND THE TOWN DOES NOT HAVE IT WITHIN ITS FIVE YEAR BUDGET TO INSTALL SEWER LINES IN THIS AREA. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED SOMETIME BETWEEN 1952 AND 1974. THE 1976 COLLIERVILLE ZONING MAP SHOWS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND OTHER PROPERTIES ON THE EAST SIDE OF BRACE STATION ROAD AS ZONED R ONE AND 1988. THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES AND OTHER PROPERTIES ON THE EAST SIDE OF BRACE STATION ROAD. WERE REZONED FROM R ONE TO RL IN ORDINANCE 88 DASH 34 IN 2000. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SURROUNDING AREAS ALONG BRACE STATION ROAD WERE REZONED FROM RL TO FAR TO INCREASE THE LOT SIZES AND PRESERVE THE RURAL CHARACTER DUE TO THE REZONINGS IN 1988 AND IN 2000, MANY LOTS ALONG BRACE STATION ROAD ARE LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING. WHILE MANY LOTS MEET THE FIVE ACRE MINIMUM, SEVERAL LOTS DO NOT MEET THE FAR WITH REQUIREMENT, DESPITE NON-CONFORMING LOT WIDTH, SEVERAL OF THE HOMES MEET THE FAR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. THE FAR ZONING DISTRICT INTENDS TO PRESERVE A RURAL LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL CHARACTER WITH DEEP SETBACKS AND THE STANDARD REQUIREMENT FOR IT. THE STANDARD REQUIREMENT FOR A MINIMUM FIVE ACRE LOT SIZE AND A MINIMUM LOT WIDTH OF 350 FEET. THE REQUIRED SETBACKS IN FAR INCLUDE A HUNDRED FEET FOR THE FRONT YARD, 150 FEET FOR THE SIDE YARD WITH NEITHER SIDE BEING LESS THAN 75 FEET AND A 75 FOOT REAR YARD. THE VARIANCE WOULD ALLOW FOR A NEW SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING TO ENCROACH 15 FEET INTO THE REQUIRED SIDE YARD SETBACKS ON BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH SIDES. THE SUBJECT LOT IS ABOUT 292 FEET WIDE. WHILE THE PROPOSED HOME IS APPROXIMATELY 170 FEET WIDE, THE PROPOSED 9,000 SQUARE FOOT DWELLING WILL REDUCE THE TOTAL SIDE YARD SETBACKS FROM 150 FEET TO 122 FEET. CURRENTLY THE BUILDABLE WIDTH FOR THE SUBJECT LOT IS APPROXIMATELY APPROXIMATELY 140 FEET UNDER FAR ZONING STANDARDS. THE RECO, THE REQUESTED VARIANCE, IS COMPARABLE TO THE BUILDING ENVELOPES ALLOWED FOR FAR LOTS. THE MINIMUM BUILDABLE WIDTH FOR A 350 FOOT WIDE FAR LOT IS 200 FEET, WHICH IS ABOUT 57.1% OF THE WIDTH OF THE LOT. IF THE VARIANCE IS EXCEPT IS APPROVED, IT WOULD HAVE A MAXIMUM BUILDABLE WIDTH OF 170 FEET, WHICH WOULD, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT 58% OF THE LOT WIDTH BASED ON THE SUBSTANDARD LOT WIDTH OF 292 FEET. THE SEPTIC TANK SYSTEM IS A SEPTIC TANK [00:10:01] SYSTEM IS NEEDED FOR THE HOME SINCE THERE IS NO PUBLIC SEWER AVAILABLE. AND THE APPLICANT STATES THAT THE PROPOSED SEPTIC T SYSTEM LIMITS THE PLACE PLACEMENT OPTIONS FOR A NEW DWELLING PRIOR TO THE INSURANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT MUST RECEIVE DOCUMENTATION FROM THE SHELBY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT DEMONSTRATING THE SEPTIC TANK SYSTEM HAS BEEN APPROVED. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT INDICATES ON JANUARY 7TH OF THIS YEAR TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT THEY CANNOT FIND ANY EXISTING PENDING OR APPROVED WELLS OR SEPTIC TANK SYSTEMS FOR THIS PROPERTY. THEY NOTE THAT THEY HAVE NOT, THAT THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES ON THIS PROPERTY SINCE ABOUT 1978. THE APPLICANT PROVIDED EXHIBIT SEVEN, WHICH IS SHOWN ON THE SCREEN TO SHOW THE PROPOSED LOCATION OF THE SEPTIC TANK SYSTEM ON THE LOT INFORMATION DEMONSTRATING THE SOIL TYPES OR OPINIONS OR SOIL SCIENTISTS OR ENGINEERING STATING THAT TWO SEPTIC FIELDS ARE NEEDED FOR THIS LOT AND THE PROPOSED LOCATIONS OF THE FIELDS BEING THE MOST SUITABLE SOILS ON THE LOT HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED. THE APPLICANT ALSO STATES THAT THERE ARE LARGE MATURE TREES LOCATED ALONG THE REAR AND SIDES OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO PRESERVE THE EXISTING MATURE TREES. PROVIDE AN ESTABLISHED PRIVACY SCREENING FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THEY CONTRIBUTE TO THE EXISTING RURAL CHAR RURAL CHARACTER OF THE AREA. AND REPLACING THESE TREES WILL REQUIRE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME TO REACH A COMPARABLE SIZE AND LEVEL OF SCREENING. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING THE REMOVAL OF A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF DEAD TREES IN ADDITIONAL TREE REMOVAL COULD FURTHER IMPACT EXISTING ONSITE DRAINAGE AND WATER RETENTION CONDITIONS. THE LOT TOPOGRAPHY INCLUDES AN APPROXIMATE 10 FOOT CHANGE IN ELEVATION FROM THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY TOWARDS THE FRONT, WHICH INFLUENCES THE PLACEMENT OF THE HOME ON THE LOT IN THE DRAINAGE CONSIDERATIONS. IN 2019, A VARIANCE WAS GRANTED TO THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7 41 BRAY STATION ROAD AFTER THE APPLICANT DEMONSTRATED A TRUE HARDSHIP BY A DRAINAGE DITCH RUNNING DIRECTLY THROUGH THE LOT, WHICH SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED THE BUILDABLE ENVELOPE. THE VARIANCE ALLOWED FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SIZABLE HOME WITHOUT ADVERSE IMPACTS TO THE CHARACTER OF BRACE STATION ROAD. THE ZONING ORDINANCE STATES THAT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHALL A NON-CONFORMING LOTS OF NEIGHBORING LANDS, STRUCTURES OR BUILDINGS IN THE SAME DISTRICT BE CONSIDERED AS THE BASIS UPON A VARIANCE WHICH IS GRANTED BY THE BOARD. THERE ARE SEVERAL ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS THAT WOULD MEET THE ZONING ORDINANCE SUCH AS THE FOLLOWING. ONE THE APPLICANT COULD RE APPLY TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO RL. HOWEVER, THIS IS UNLIKELY DUE TO IT ONLY BEING A, A SINGLE LOT AND A SIMILAR REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED TO BRACE STATION ROAD BUT IT WAS NOT RECOMMENDED BY THE STAFF. UH, TWO, THEY COULD, THE APPLICANT COULD REQUEST TO AMEND THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO REDUCE, REDUCE THE MINIMUM SIDE SETBACKS FOR FAR TO MATCH RL. THREE, THEY COULD REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE PRI PRIMARY DWELLING, WHICH COULD LESSEN THE REQUIRED SEPTIC TANK AREAS AND POTENTIALLY ALLOW FOR A STRUCTURE TO FIT WITHIN THE REQUIRED SETBACKS. FOUR, THEY COULD RECONFIRM THE RECONFIRMING FORM THE DESIGN, SORRY, SUCH AS DETACHING THE GARAGE AND RELOCATING IT BEHIND THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE, WHICH COULD REDUCE THE OVERALL WIDTH OF THE HOUSE AND ALLOW IT TO FIT WITHIN THE BUILDABLE ENVELOPE. AND LASTLY, THEY COULD, UM, ROTATE THE HOUSE ABOUT 90 DEGREES, UM, WHICH THE APPLICANT EXPRESSES THE, HIS CONCERNS OR THEIR CONCERNS FOR THE, FOR THIS OPTION BECAUSE IT WOULD IMPACT THE APPROVED SEPTIC [00:15:01] FIELDS LAYOUT AND IT WOULD LIKELY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL TREE REMOVAL, WHICH IS WHAT THEY SEEK TO PRESERVE. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL BECAUSE THE STANDARDS OF A VARIANCE HAVE BEEN SATISFACTORILY ADDRESSED AND THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WILL LIMIT THE POTENTIAL ADVERSE IM IMPACTS. THIS RECOMMENDATION IS BASED UPON THE APPLICANT'S ASSERTION REQUIRING TWO SEPTIC FIELDS TO PLACE A DWELLING ON THIS LOT AND THE LOCATION SHOWN IN EXHIBIT SEVEN IS ON IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE LOCATIONS FOR THE SEPTIC SYSTEM. ON THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT YOU CAN SEE THE LIMIT, LIMITED BUILDABLE ENVELOPE FOR ANY HOUSE, ANY NEW HOME ON THIS LOT. IF THEY WERE TO AVOID THE SEPTIC FIELDS, SAVE TREES AND WORK WITH THE EXISTING TOPOLOGY. IF THOSE CONSTRAINTS ARE ACCURATE, THEN THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO ABILITY TO UTILIZE THE FULL FAR ENVELOPE. YOU SEE IN THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT. DOCUMENTATION HAS NOT BEEN PROVIDED FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO SUPPORT THIS ASSERTION. STAFF HAS ANALYZED THE APP APPLICABLE TESTS TO SEE IF THE VARIANCE IS WARRANTED IN THIS CASE. THE RESULTS CAN BE FOUND IN EXHIBIT NINE. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RESULTS, I HAVE THEM AS BACKUP SLIDES. THE EXAMPLE MOTION IS ON YOUR SCREEN ALONG WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVALS AND THE APPLICANT'S NEXT STEPS. ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE, UM, THAT HAS, THAT SHOWS THE HOUSES TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THIS LOT WITH THIS? YEAH, RIGHT THERE. OH, THIS ONE? YEAH, THAT'S FINE. OKAY. UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO THE LOT TO THE NORTH. IS THAT AN APPROVED ACCESSORY STRUCTURE OR WAS THAT THERE PRIOR TO THE PROCESS? YES. SO THAT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WAS BUILT IN ABOUT 1980. SO AROUND THE TIME WHEN THE LOTS WERE BEING REZONED FROM R FROM R ONE TO RL TO RI MEAN FAR, SORRY. SO THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE THERE WAS ALREADY PLACED, SO IT'S KIND OF A LEGAL NONCONFORMING, BUT IF IT CAME IN FRONT OF US TODAY, THEY WOULD REQUIRE A VARIANCE IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD THAT TODAY, CORRECT? YES. YES SIR. OKAY. UM, AND I WOULD SAY THE ONLY REASON THEY WOULD NEED A VARIANCE IS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE SIDE YARD. YEAH. SHEILA, YOU SAID THAT THIS WAS REZONED TO FAR IN 2000, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. AND THEN PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I HEARD YOU OF OUR BOARD, I THINK YOU SAID AT ONE POINT THAT WE CANNOT COMPARE FOR THIS SITUATION OR THIS SCENARIO, OTHER NON-CONFORMING LOTS ON BRAY STATION. YES. CORRECT. SO MANY WORDS. IS THAT ACCURATE? YEAH, CORRECT. ALRIGHT. UM, AND JUST AS CONFIRMATION, YOU DID SAY NONE OF THE SOIL SCIENTISTS EXPLORATION DOCUMENTS OR DESIGN OF SEPTIC SYSTEMS OR PERMITS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO STAFF FOR REVIEW, NOT BY SHELBY COUNTY, BUT THIS EXHIBIT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT. UM, BUT WE, WE HAVEN'T RE RECEIVED ANY FORMAL DOCUMENTATION FROM THE SHELBY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. UH, DO WE KNOW WHERE THIS CAME FROM BY CHANCE? LIKE I KNOW THE APPLICANT, THE APPLICANT AND THE APPLICANT COULD CERTAINLY SPEAK TO IT WHEN THEY COME UP. YEAH, I'D BE INTERESTED TO KNOW WHEN THEY DO COME UP TO ADDRESS, IS IT NORMAL FOR THEM TO HAVE A SEPTIC RECOMMENDATION AND NOT BE SUBMITTED TO BE DONE? 'CAUSE I WOULD THINK THEY WOULD NEED TO SUBMIT IT TO GET APPROVAL. THE BUILDING PERMIT WILL NOT ISSUE OR THE BUILDING ENC CLOSED DEPARTMENT WOULDN'T ISSUE A BUILDING PERMIT UNTIL THEY GET CONFIRMATION FROM THE SHELBY COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. SO THEY COULD SUBMIT IT AND THEN BEFORE THEY GET THE PERMIT ISSUED, THEY WOULD NEED TO HAVE HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVAL FOR THAT SEPTIC TANK. BUT TO CLEAR UP ANY MISUNDERSTANDING I MAY HAVE THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION AROUND THE TWO SEPTIC TANKS ALL DEPENDS ON THE HOUSE BEING IN ITS CURRENT STATE AS FAR AS SIZE AND THAT TYPE. SO FROM WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SEPTIC IS OBVIOUSLY BASED ON [00:20:01] A SIZE REQUIREMENT FROM THE HOUSE. AND THEN JUST FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SOIL SCIENTIST COME TEST FOR PERCOLATION ON THE PROPERTY. AND THEN IF SHELBY COUNTY, WHICH I BELIEVE THEY DO FOLLOW A MIRROR, TENNESSEE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENT AND CONSERVATION STANDARDS, YOU'LL HAVE A SEPTIC AREA THAT'S YOUR MAIN SEPTIC, BUT YOU'RE ALSO REQUIRED TO HAVE AN EQUALLY SIZED SECOND BACKUP SYSTEM FOR EITHER EXPANSION OR IF THERE'S A TOTAL FAILURE OR IT'S DEEMED IT CAN'T WORK, IT'S GOTTA GO TO THE BACKUP SYSTEM. GOTCHA. UM, WHICH DOES, WHICH DOES MAKE IT A LITTLE HAIR AT TIMES. UH, HAS THERE BEEN ANY, ANY KIND OF WORK DONE ON, UH, THE LOT OR, UM, CONSTRUCTION? UM, WELL, SO FAR THEY'VE TAKEN UP SOME OF THE DEAD TREES AND I GUESS GRADED THE FRONT OF THAT, BUT THAT'S ALL THAT'S BEEN DONE AS FAR. OKAY. SO JUST EARTH WORK. MM-HMM . ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? HAVE THERE BEEN ANY OTHER, UM, PLANS OR, UH, ALTERATIONS TO THE PLANS PRESENTED TO THE STAFF? UH, NOT BY THE CURRENT APPLICANT. ALL RIGHT. ONE MORE. ONE MORE. YEAH. YES. THESE RULES WERE IN PLACE BEFORE THE LAND WAS BOUGHT AND THESE, THESE PLANS WERE PRESENTED AS WELL? YES, SIR. IN YEAR 2000. ALL RIGHT. IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IN THE MICROPHONE FOR THE RECORD PLEASE. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA LEAD OFF WITH, GO RIGHT AHEAD. AND THEN AFTER THAT WE'LL ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS. UH, JEFF BRALET CUSTOM RESIDENTIAL DESIGN. UM, I'M JUST HERE TO FIELD ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THE CASE, LET YOU KNOW HOW WE GOT HERE TONIGHT. OKAY, WELL, I'LL START WITH THIS. I MEAN, OKAY, OBVIOUSLY THAT YOU KNEW AS A DEVELOPER, YOU KNEW THE RULES ABOUT HAVING THE VARIANCE ON THE SIDES AND EVERYTHING, BUT THEN THE HOUSE WAS DESIGNED TO, WITHOUT THAT IN MIND OR NO SIR. THE, THE LOT DOESN'T MEET THE, THE FAR REQUIREMENTS AND WE WERE WORKING OFF THE TABLE THAT'S PROVIDED BY THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THAT WE HAD A 50 FOOT SETBACK, OUR FRONT LINE IS 292 FEET WIDE AND THE MINIMUM FOR AFAR IS 350 FEET. SO WE WERE OPERATING WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT WE HAD 50 FOOT SETBACKS AND WE'RE WELL OFF OF THAT. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART THAT SHE PROVIDED, THE PERCENTAGE OF THE DISTANCE OF, OF BOTH SIDES OF THE HOME IS THE SAME AS IF IT WAS 350 FEET WIDE OR THE 292 FEET WIDE. BUT IT ZONED CORRECT. BUT THE ONLY WAY WE FOUNDS FOUND OUT, WHICH IS 75 ON THE SIDE, BUT THE ONLY WAY WE KNEW THAT THIS WAS IN, UM, INDEXED IS WAS WHEN WE APPLIED FOR A PERMIT, BUT IT WAS IN 2000 ZONE TO FARM. WE HAVE TABLES THAT WE FOLLOW. THERE'S A CHART THAT'S PROVIDED. UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STANDARDS FOR THE FAR LOT THREE 50 FEET, WE ARE 292 FEET WIDE, WHICH WITH A, WITH A RL LOT, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE A 50 FOOT SETBACK SIDE, YOUR SETBACK, NOT A 75. UH, I GET THAT, BUT IT'S NOT ZONED R ONE, IT'S OUR R IT'S, IT IS ZONED FORM, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T HAVE THE WIDTH THAT IT WOULD NORMALLY HAVE OUR SIZE, THAT'S WHAT IT'S, THE ZONE IS IT'S NOT INFORMATION THAT'S READILY AVAILABLE. WE DID NOT FIND OUT ABOUT THIS UNTIL WE APPLIED FOR OUR, OUR PERMIT. OUR SURVEYORS MILESTONE COULD NOT EVEN GIVE US SETBACK INFORMATION. THEY HAVE ACCESS TO EVERYTHING. I WILL INTERJECT THAT CARVILLE DOES HAVE A-A-G-I-S DATABASE THAT'S GOT THE ZONING. UM, HAS STAFF VERIFIED THAT IF YOU GO TO THIS PROPERTY ON THE TOWN'S DATABASE, THAT YOU COULD VERIFY THAT IT WAS ZONED FAR OH. AND IF IT, IF IT DID IN FACT, UH, UH, RESONATE WITH THE TABLES AS WELL. UM, I MEAN THEY, THEY COULD GO TO THE MAPS, UH, CARVILLE MAP GALLERY, SEE WHAT IT'S ZONED, AND THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO KNOW TO GO TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE TO, AND LOOK AT THE BULK REQUIREMENTS FOR FAR ZONING DISTRICTS. BUT THE, THE ZONING ORDINANCE IS LINKED ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE. SHEILA, WAS THERE A TABLE THAT EXPLAINED THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE RL AND THE, UM, THE FAR THAT I'M REFERENCING THAT, THAT I WAS REFERRING TO? THAT'S WHERE I GOT MY INFORMATION FROM. THAT'S, I, I DON'T BELIEVE I HAVE ONE IN, IN MY SLIDES, BUT, UH, DONTA DO YOU THINK YOU CAN PULL IT? I HAVE ONE IN MY INFORMATION IF YOU'D LIKE TO. ARE YOU PULLING THIS TABLE FROM THE TOWN ZONING ORDINANCE? YES. THIS, I DON'T, I DON'T SECTION 1 51, [00:25:01] I THINK, YEAH, THERE WAS NO MALICIOUS INTENT. WE DIDN'T, WE WERE NOT TRYING TO IGNORE ANY KIND OF GUIDELINES. I MEAN, I'VE BEEN WORKING IN THIS CITY FOR 21 YEARS, UM, CERTAINLY AND UM, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK GREAT LINKS TO DESIGN A HOME THAT MAINTAIN PRIVACY THAT FITS INTO THE, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAVE UTILITARIAN AREAS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE DESIGN THAT THAT GIVES BOTH NEIGHBORS PRIVACY TO THE BACKYARD. UM, ON THE NORTH SIDE IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S A MASTER SUITE THAT THERE'S NO ENTERTAINING ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOME THAT GIVES YOU NOTHING BUT PRIVACY TO THE NORTHERN NEIGHBOR. UM, WHILE THEY REVIEW THIS TABLE, DO YOU HAVE THE SUBJECT DOCUMENTATION THAT I'VE BEEN ? WE HAD TO PUT A HALT ON THAT BECAUSE IT'S AN EXPENSIVE PROCESS AND UNTIL WE GOT APPROVED IT, WE, I MEAN, IF WE HAVE TO REDESIGN THE HOME, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT AGAIN. WE, WE WERE IN COMMUNICATION WITH A, A COMPANY THAT GAVE US THOSE TWO AREAS. OKAY. AND, AND, AND, AND LIKE YOU INDICATED, IT'S SUCH A LARGE HOME, WE HAVE ONE AREA, WE NEED A BACKUP AREA. THERE'S ANOTHER AREA IN THE FRONT YARD WHERE WATER WAS BEING HELD THAT'S REALLY NOT GOOD FOR A SEPTIC FIELD THAT WE HAD TO AVOID AS WELL AS FOUNDATION COST. UM, THAT'S WHY THE HOME HAS KIND OF NESTED THE WAY IT IS IN BETWEEN THOSE THREE ZONES. UM, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T EVEN TAKE, I WAS UNDER AN UNDERSTANDING IT WAS A 50 FOOT SETBACK AND I STAYED 61, ALMOST 62 FEET OFF THE SIDELINES. UM, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE SOUTHERN LINE, IT'S NOT EVEN A STRONG LINE. IT'S, IT'S IN AND OUT, YOU KNOW, DESIGN OF THE ARCHITECTURE, IT'S JUST A REAR MOTOR COURT. UM, YEAH, THERE WAS, SO I'M WAS LOOKING AT YOUR SHEET, I MEAN, AND IT CLEARLY SHOWS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FAR AND, AND RL. YES, SIR. UM, SO YOU'RE, ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WERE WORKING UNDER THE ASSUMPTION? YES, SIR. RL? YES, SIR. OKAY. I HAD NO REASON TO DIG ANY DEEPER. YEAH. SO THE TOWN HAS THE PROPERTY. 'CAUSE I MEAN, I'VE LOOKED AT ZONING, IT HAS IT AS FAR YES SIR. VERY CLEARLY. AND IT HAS BEEN SINCE 2000. YES, SIR. OKAY. I THINK DAWN'S PULLING THAT UP NOW. DO YOU WANT THIS BACK? YEAH, I SEE IT. I MEAN, I WOULD AGREE THAT I DON'T THINK, THANK YOU. I WON'T SPEAK FOR EVERYONE, BUT IF I WERE TO ASSUME, WE WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU HAD NO MALICIOUS INTENT. I MEAN, CERTAINLY A HOME OF THIS CALIPER ON A ESTABLISHED ROAD LIKE BRAY STATION THAT WILL FIT THE BILL CERTAINLY ISN'T A, A MALICIOUS INTENT. NO, NO, SIR. I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE UNFORTUNATE INSTANCES WHERE THE ZONING MAP CLEARLY SHOWS THAT AS FAR UNFORTUNATELY. UM, AND WHILE I'VE LOOKED AT THAT CHART MANY TIMES IT'S, IT'S TOUGH TO LOOK AT NOW FROM THE OTHER SIDE, IF YOU WERE TO STAND OUT, UH, AT THE NEXT HOUSE, NEXT DOOR AND LOOK AND SAY, CAN YOU TELL IF IT'S 12 FEET OR 14 FEET CLOSER THAN WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, WHICH IS NOT EVEN THE FULL DEPTH OF A PARKING STALL WIDTH. NO, SIR. IT'S THREE STEPS. IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD DO THAT, UH, THAT'S AN AMAZING FEAT. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT FOLKS THAT LIVE AROUND HERE, SOME OF THEM I'M SURE WERE THERE IN THE 2000 HEARING WHEN IT WENT TO FAR OR UNDER THE PRESUMPTION THAT IT WOULD HAVE THESE SETBACKS. SO IT'S TOUGH. MM-HMM . I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND. I DO. IT'S JUST WE HAD NO REASON WHEN I'M FOLLOWING THIS CHART TO, TO PURSUE ANY OTHER INFORMATION, I, I'VE NEVER HAD TO GO TO A ZONING. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 40 YEARS AND I'VE NEVER GONE TO A ZONING MAP TO FIGURE OUT WHERE, WHAT MY SETBACKS WERE. I MEAN, THE, THE 75 THAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS VERY UNFAIR TO THIS LOT. I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LACKING DIMENSION OF THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE THAT MAKES UP THE DIFFERENCE OF WHAT WE'RE LACKING FOR THE, THE 75 FOOT SETBACK. THANK SHEILA. CAN YOU GO TO YOUR SUGGESTIONS PAGE? I'LL BE, I I'LL BE HONEST, IT'S TOUGH FOR ME TO SAY GO THE VARIANCE ROUTE. WHILE I DO AGREE WITH SOME OF THESE POINTS, BUT I, I THINK MAYBE FOR THE LEGAL VEHICLE OF PUSHING THIS THROUGH IS WELL, WE'LL HAVE IS LOT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION AT THE END BETWEEN US, SO LET'S HOLD THAT THOUGHT. OKAY. IF YOU DON'T MIND ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, ONE OF THE, UH, CRITERIA FOR, FOR [00:30:01] US IS TO IDENTIFY HARDSHIP. ARE THERE ANY ARTICULABLE HARDSHIPS THAT THE APPLICANT OR YOU CAN PROVIDE TO THIS BOARD? YES, SIR. I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE, WE HAVE TWO ZONES THAT THERE ARE ONLY, UM, WITH I THINK WITH THE, UM, THE SEPTIC, YOU KNOW, ENGINEERS THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT ARE APPLICABLE FOR THIS LOT. AND IF YOU GO TO THE, TO THE SITE PLAN THAT HAS THE DRAWING THAT SHOWS, SO IF YOU, YOU SEE THAT THIS IS THIS REAR AREA HERE, YOU CAN GO USE THE PEN. OH, I NEED THE PEN. SORRY, I MOVED THE, I WRONG. OKAY. THIS, THIS ZONE IS, IS ONE, THIS IS ONE, THIS AREA WAS HOLDING WATER. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR SEPTIC FIELD LINES, NOR IS IT GOOD FOR FOUNDATION. SO YOU CAN REALLY SEE HOW, UM, I'VE TRIED TO STAY BETWEEN THOSE TWO, UH, THE BAD DIRT AREA AND THEN OUR TWO POTENTIAL SEPTIC AREAS. WE HAVE A HEAVY TREE LINE THAT WE WANTED TO NOT DISTURB. WE ALSO WANT TO TRY TO MAINTAIN ALL THE TREES ON THE NORTHERN LINE AS MUCH AS WE COULD. THE ONLY TREES THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED ARE THE DEAD TREES THAT WERE CREATED BY THE HOLDING WATER AREA. IN, IN THIS, THIS FRONT AREA. UM, THERE ARE TREES ALONG THIS SOUTHERN LINE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAINTAIN, BUT THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH POTENTIAL NEW UTILITIES COMING IN AND WITH TREES BEING THERE AND WIND DAMAGE TAKEN OUT LINES. SO THERE'S A CONSIDERATION OF TAKING, UH, THAT TREE DOWN AS WELL. OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S, IT'S A REALLY SMALL AREA THAT WE HAVE TO KIND OF DESIGN IN. SO MY HARDSHIP IS, IS WHAT I'M KIND OF HEMMED INTO OF TRYING TO MAINTAIN EXISTING TREES WORKING WITH TOPOGRAPHY AND POTENTIAL SEPTIC AREAS. IF I HAD TO DESIGN THE HOME DEEPER, I WOULD GET INTO THE WET AREAS, THE SEPTIC FIELDS, AND POSSIBLY HAVE TO TAKE DOWN MORE QUALITY TREES, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS VERY ATTENTIVE TO THE, TO THE, UM, TO THE AREA. I MEAN, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? WHAT, WHAT, I'LL HAVE ONE MORE AND THEN I'LL QUOTE WHAT, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GET AN ACTUAL DEFINITION OF AREA? I MEAN, IF YOU HAVE A, A BASIC FLOW THAT YOU CAN BALLPARK SIZE AND I MEAN IF THESE ARE BALLPARK SIZES, JUST SOME DIMENSIONS. I MEAN, BECAUSE SOME OF THAT, UH, PURDUE, WHEREVER IT IS ON YOUR SCREEN GETS PRETTY FAR INTO THAT TREE LINE. YES SIR. THAT'S TO THE EAST AND UP FRONT WE'VE GOT A TRAPEZOID THAT'S ALSO COVERED IN TREES. SO WELL, UM, THE GC UH, PRICE HAZE, THE DRUNK CONTRACTOR HAS HAD THE COMMUNICATION DIRECTLY WITH, HE MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION A LITTLE BIT BETTER. UM, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S A REALLY A MATTER OF US CONTINUING THE PROCESS WITH 'EM, BUT WE PUMPED THE BRAKES UNTIL WE GOT THIS APPROVED. WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO, UH, PAY FOR THAT PROCESS AND THEN REDESIGN THE HOME AND THEN PAY FOR THE PROCESS AGAIN. I MEAN, ULTIMATELY IF, IF WE HAD TO DESIGN THE HOME DEPOT, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO SOME OF THOSE AREAS. AND LIKE YOU INDICATED EARLIER, YOU, YOU, YOU DO NEED A POTENTIAL BACKUP, UM, FOR A HOME OF THIS SIZE OR EXPANSION OR, OR ANY KIND OF A DISASTER SITUATION. SEPTICS ARE, ARE, ARE PROBLEMATIC TO SAY THE LEAST. AND THEY'RE NOT A LIFETIME PRODUCT. THEY HAVE TO BE REDONE. OKAY. AND BEING THAT THE CITY DOESN'T PROVIDE SEWER FOR US, THAT'S ANOTHER HARDSHIP THAT WE HAVE THAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, CAN WE SAY THE ALTERNATIVES AGAIN? WHICH OF THE, HAVE YOU LOOKED THROUGH ALL THESE ALTERNATIVES? LIKE ONE OF 'EM WAS TO, TO CHANGE THE GARAGE. THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, IF YOU DETACHED THE GARAGE, WOULD THAT ACTUALLY ALLOW IT TO HAVE THE SETBACKS THAT WAS REQUIRED BY ZONING? I BELIEVE THERE'S DIFFERENT SETBACK REQUIREMENTS. IF OUR STRUCTURE'S DETACHED, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT A STRUCTURE MUCH CLOSER TO A SIDELINE. BUT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE. OKAY. I MEAN THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP US FURTHER AWAY FROM 'EM. YEAH. WELL I THOUGHT YOU OKAY? NO MORE QUESTIONS. OKAY. THANK YOU SIR. YES SIR. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL NOW START WITH THE UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS. UH, MR. RAY DE PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I MISPRONOUNCE THAT IT'S HAPPEN ALL THE TIME. RAY DE THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH YOU TODAY. ALRIGHT. GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND THEN YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU SIR. MY NAME IS RAY DENO. I LIVE AT 5 34 BREY STATION ROAD AND I'M THE SMITH'S IMMEDIATE NEIGHBOR. I ASK THE BOARD TO DENY THIS VARIANCE AS THE APPLICANT DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIRED BURDEN OF PROOF AS OUTLINED IN [00:35:01] CODE 1 51 0.309. SIMPLY PUT ONE, THERE IS NO HARDSHIP. TWO, A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT IS BEING SET. THREE, IT ADVERSELY IMPACTS THE NEIGHBORS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, FOUR. THIS ISSUE IS INTENTIONALLY SELF-IMPOSED BY MR. SMITH. I MOVED TO BRACE STATION FOR THE PRIVACY THAT FAR ZONING LAWS PROVIDE. NOW IT SEEMS THE LAWS THAT PROTECTED MY PRIVACY ARE BEING SACRIFICED IN THE NAME OF AN OVERREACHING DEVELOPER. TONIGHT WE LEARNED THAT AN OWNER CAN DESIGN A PROPERTY IN VIOLATION OF ZONING LAWS, SUBMIT IT, HAVE IT DENIED, AND MAKE NO CORRECTIONS. THEN THEY CAN REQUEST A VARIANCE TO AVOID THOSE VERY VIOLATIONS. THEY CAN BLAME THE HARDSHIP ON A POTENTIAL FUTURE ISSUE, PROVIDE NO VALIDATING DOCUMENTS AND HAVE IT FORWARDED TO THIS BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION. THIS IS NOT A VARIANCE REQUEST DUE TO THE HARDSHIP OF THE LAND, BUT RATHER FOR THE PREFERENCE OF DESIGN. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS A SELF-IMPOSED OBJECTIVE THAT CAN BE MODIFIED WITH REAL OPTIONS AT ANY TIME BY MR. SMITH. FOR REFERENCE, I'VE ACQUIRED THE PREVIOUS NEIGHBOR'S PROPOSED BUILD FROM THAT VERY LOT. I FOLLOW THEIR BUILD FOR ALMOST THREE YEARS WITH NO NEED FOR A VARIANCE. THESE TWO OWNERS TALKED. YOU WILL NOTE THE SHAPE OF THE BUILDINGS ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL EXCEPT MR. SMITH BALLOONED ANOTHER 2,500 SQUARE FOOT PLUS IN SIZE AT JUST UNDER 10,000 SQUARE FEET. THIS IS A BEHEMOTH BUILD THAT DWARFS THE NEIGHBORS. ADD THIS VARIANCE WITH A 19% CUT ON BOTH SIDE LOT LINES AND THE RESULTS HAVE AN OFFENSIVE COMPOUNDING EFFECT. NEIGHBORS WILL LOSE THEIR PRIVACY. THE SERENITY OF RURAL LIVING AND THEIR PROPERTY VALUE WILL BE PENALIZED. MR. SMITH CLEARLY KNOWS COLLIERVILLE CODE AND HOW TO WORK AROUND IT. THIS IS A BLATANT ATTEMPT TO EXPLOIT THIS BOARD'S VARIANCE PRO PROVISIONS TO MEET HIS PERSONAL WANTS AT THE EXPENSE OF THE LAW. IN THE PLEADING NEIGHBORS TO THE BOARD, I SIMPLY ASK YOU FOLLOW AND ENFORCE COLLIERVILLE CODE AS IT IS INTENDED. DENY THIS BRAZEN ATTEMPT TO CREATE A LOOPHOLE AND REJECT THIS PROPOSAL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU RAY AND GOOD JOB ON YOUR TIME. , I SAY THAT SINCERELY. UM, . I GUESS IT LITERALLY. ALL RIGHT. KAREN STONE, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. WHOOPS. HI, I AM KAREN STONE. I CAN'T SEE WITH MY GLASSES ARE WITHOUT THEM, SO I'M GONNA HOLD THIS PIECE OF PAPER UP HERE CLOSE. MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED TO 5 96 BRACE STATION LAST YEAR. WE'RE THE NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH WITH THE LITTLE SHOP CLOSE TO THE FENCE. IT WAS BUILT WAY BEFORE THEY CHANGED TO FAR AND IT'S GRANDFATHERED IN. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HOUSE THAT'S BUILT IN 85 TO GET THE PLEASURE OF A SHOP BY THE FENCE. WE FELL IN LOVE WITH BRACEY STATION. WE MOVED HERE FROM BRENT, BRENTWOOD, TENNESSEE WHEN WE RETIRED JUST LAST YEAR. THE BIG TREES, THE LOTS WITH LARGE SPACES BETWEEN THE HOUSES, WHICH ARE SET BACK FROM THE QUAINT LITTLE ROAD THAT HAS NO SIDEWALKS. WE FEEL THAT THIS PROPERTY, THIS STREET IS UNIQUE AND QUAINT AND CHARMING AND WE WOULD LOVE FOR IT TO STAY THAT WAY. WE BELIEVE THE APPLICANT SHOULD HAVE RECONFIGURED THE DESIGN AS SOON AS THEY FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS A 75 FOOT SETBACK. WHY BUY A PROPERTY THAT DOES NOT FIT YOUR NEEDS? WHY TRY TO GET A VARIANCE WITHOUT FIXING THE DESIGN? AS SOON AS YOU FOUND OUT YOU'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE, I WOULD SAY REDESIGN SHOULD COME BEFORE CRYING HARDSHIP TO FIT IN THE WHOLE 9,500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE, YOU MIGHT NEED TO UTILIZE SOME OF THE BACKYARD AND THERE APPEARS TO BE PLENTY OF SPACE. FURTHER DESIGN OF THE HOUSE SHOULD NOT DETERMINE IF THERE IS A HARDSHIP. I BELIEVE THERE IS. THERE IS OR THERE IS NO HARDSHIP ON THE LAND. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO WITH THE DESIGN IS MY UNDERSTANDING. I THINK THEIR HARDSHIP IS THEY'RE TRYING TO FIT [00:40:01] A VERY BIG HOUSE INTO A SPACE THAT IT WON'T FIT INTO. MY HUSBAND AND I BELIEVE IN COLLIERVILLE. WE LOVE IT HERE. SO PLEASE DON'T TAKE AWAY THE THING, THE VERY REASONS THAT WE CHOSE BRACE STATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. RIGHT. ALRIGHT, NEXT UP WE'VE GOT SUSIE SCOTT AND MURRAY SCOTT HAS YIELDED HIS THREE MINUTES TO YOU, SO YOU HAVE UP TO SIX MINUTES IF YOU NEED. IT WON'T TAKE THAT LONG, BUT UP SIX. BUT GO AHEAD AND SAY, I JUST WANTED TO HELP WITH MY NERVES ALL. JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FIRST. ALL RIGHT. MY NAME IS SUSIE SCOTT AND I LIVE AT BRACE STATE. IT'S SIX 60 BRACEY STATION. I'VE LIVED THERE SINCE MARCH OF 1999. THE EAST SIDE OF BRAY STATION CONSISTS OF 22 5 ACRE TRACKS. IT WAS ORIGINALLY KNOWN AS BRAY STATION MEADOWS. IT WAS ANNEXED IN THE SIXTIES. THE WEST SIDE OF BRAY WAS ANNEXED IN THE EIGHTIES. IT WAS ORIGINALLY KNOWN AS SHEA MEADOWS AND CONSISTED OF OF LOTS OF APPROXIMATELY 10 ACRES. MY HUSBAND AND I SIGNED THAT ORIGINAL FAR REZONING PETITION. IT WAS UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY THE BMA IN 2000. DESPITE THE FACT THAT NONE OF THE 22 5 ACRE TRACKS HAVE 350 FEET OF LINEAR FOOTAGE, THE AVERAGE IS 291.3 FEET. I HAVE THE LIST OF EVERYBODY'S LINEAR FOOTAGE. UM, ALL OF THE EXISTING RESIDENTS DID MEET THE SIDELINE SETBACK. THE SPIRIT OR INTENT OF THE ZONING LAW AS ENACTED WAS TO PRESERVE THE PRIVACY THAT THE REQUIRED SETBACKS GUARANTEED BY PREVENTING THE CREATION OF FLAG LOTS AND THE PRE AND THE PREVENTION OF FUTURE REMODELING REPLACEMENT OR NEW BUILDS FROM ENCROACHING ON NEIGHBORS. THE REASONABLE INTENDED OUTCOME WAS THE PRESERVATION OF AN OPEN AND RURAL APPEARANCE. THIS INTENTION OF THE ZONING LAW WAS EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THAT ALL OF THE LOTS WERE NON-CONFORMING WITH THE FAR FRONTAGE REQUIREMENT OF 350 FEET. AS STATED IN THE TOWN'S ZONING GUIDELINES, I BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO CREATE A LOOPHOLE BASED ON LOT WIDTH BY PRETENDING THAT THE LOT IS WIDER THAN IT IS. ON JANUARY 9TH, THE STAFF POSTED THE CASE EXHIBITS EXHIBIT NINE. ITEM SIX SAID THAT THE SIZE COULD BE REDUCED. AND IN ITEM SEVEN OF TODAY'S REPORT THEY LISTED SEVERAL ALTERNATIVES WHICH YOU SAW, UH, BEFORE YOU, WHICH WOULD PROVIDE REASONABLE USE OF THE LOT IMMEDIATE IN IN TODAY'S REPORT. IMMEDIATELY BELOW THAT LIST THEY THEN RECOMMEND APPROVAL SAYING ALL OF THE STANDARDS HAVE BEEN SATISFACTORILY ADDRESSED BY THE STAFF'S OWN ADMISSION. THE APPLICANT HAS NOT PRESENTED ANY ALTERNATIVES. THE ONLY ADDITION IS THIS ARTIFICIAL WIDTH HYPOTHESIS. I WAS HONESTLY SHOCKED TO SEE THAT THE TOWN STAFF HAS CHOSEN TO ENDORSE THIS PETITION FOR VARIANCE TO SAY THAT IF THE LOT OR 350 FEET WIDE, THEN THE BUILDING ENVELOPE WOULD BE 170 FEET IN WIDTH AND THAT NO VARIANCE WOULD BE NECESSARY. THAT'S PURE FANTASY. THAT IS SETTING PRECEDENT THAT EACH BRACE STATION HOMEOWNER COULD REMODEL OR REPLACE HIS HOME AS IF HIS LOT WAS 60 FEET WIDER THAN IT ACTUALLY IS. THIS LOT AT FIVE 60 BRACE STATION HAS NEVER BEEN 350 FEET WIDE. MR. SMITH IS A REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL. HE PURCHASED THIS 293 FOOT WIDE LOT KNOWING THAT IT WAS ZONED FAR AND THAT ANY FUTURE BUILD WOULD NEED TO MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS. THIS BOARD'S JOB IS TO ENSURE THAT ALL INTERESTED PARTIES ARE TREATED FAIRLY. I DO NOT SEE HOW GRANTING THIS VARIANCE TO ALLOW THE APPLICANT TO BUILD AS IF HIS LOT IS 60 FEET WIDER THAN IT ACTUALLY IS, IS FAIR TO THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORS WHOSE HOMES, DESPITE HAVING LOTS OF LESS THAN 350 FEET IN WIDTH DO MEET THE 75 FOOT SETBACKS. I ASK THAT YOU PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF THE [00:45:01] ADJACENT NEIGHBORS BY REJECTING THIS VARIANCE REQUEST AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, AND LAST WE HAVE DAVE RYLANDER. LET'S GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE. YEAH, AND I'M GONNA BORE YOU WITH ALL THOSE STATISTICS EITHER. SO WHEN I TALK DAVE RYLANDER, I LIVE ON FOUR 70 BRAY STATION ROAD. UH, WE MOVED HERE, UH, OVER 25 YEARS AGO. WE BOUGHT A VACANT LOT AND WE BUILT A HOUSE AND WE BOUGHT THAT SPACE FOR THE SAME REASON THAT YOU HEARD RAY AND KAREN TALK UP BEFORE WE'RE ABOUT HAVING SPACE SEPARATION FROM NEIGHBORS. UH, ENJOY THE ENVIRONMENT. SO, AND I'M ALSO PRESIDENT OF THE BRAY STATION HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. SO I'M GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT APPROACH, UH, THAN WHAT THE THREE P PREVIOUS PEOPLE DID. WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS TAKE YOUR BZA HAT OFF AND I WANT YOU TO PUT ON YOUR PERSONAL CONSUMER HAT JUST LIKE YOU'RE GONNA GO BUY A CAR OR A VEHICLE. AND SO WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, THE FIRST THING YOU DO IS YOU SAY, DOES THIS VEHICLE MEET MY NEEDS? OKAY, DOES IT HAVE THE RIGHT GAS MILEAGE? DOES IT HAVE THE RIGHT LOOKS? DOES IT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS. AND ONCE YOU SEE THAT, THEN YOU MOVE TO THE NEXT PHASE. AND THAT IS WHAT ARE THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF BUYING THIS? UH, WHAT IS THE WARRANTY? IS IT THREE YEARS, 36,000 MILES AND ALL THAT STUFF. ONCE YOU SEE THAT AND AGREE TO THAT, THEN YOU PAY YOUR MONEY TO BUY THAT PRODUCT. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT UH, RAY AND KAREN DID IS THEY SAW HOUSES SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT, OR IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS THAT THEY BOUGHT THAT THEY, IT MET ALL THEIR NEEDS. IT HAD THE SEPARATION FROM NEIGHBORS, IT HAD THE OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO, AND THEN THE AFTER THEY SAW THAT, THEN THEY PROBABLY LOOKED AT, WELL, WHAT ARE THE CODES? WHAT ARE THE UH, VER WHAT ARE THE DISTANCES BETWEEN MY HOUSE AND THE NEXT HOUSE? AND ONCE THEY AGREED TO THAT, THEN THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE. SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID. BUT I WANT TO TAKE YOU BACK DOWN TO THE CAR EXAMPLE. SO LET'S SAY YOU BOUGHT THAT CAR AND YOU'RE DRIVING IT AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GET A NOTICE FROM THE CAR COMPANY THAT SAYS, WE'RE CHANGING OUR WARRANTY. IT'S NOT 36 MONTHS, IT'S 81% OF THAT. YOU ONLY GET 29 MONTHS, 29,000 MILES. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL BECAUSE YOU ALREADY BOUGHT THAT CAR BASED UPON THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS THAT YOU SAW WAY BACK WHEN, WHEN YOU BOUGHT IT. AND THAT BRINGS US TO THIS ISSUE. YOU TAKE YOUR BZA HAT OFF OR YOU, YOU PUT YOUR BZA BACK HAT BACK ON AND NOW YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT, YOU'RE JUST LIKE THE CAR COMPANY. DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE VARIANCES AFTER PEOPLE HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT THE PRODUCT? WHAT DOES THAT DO? WHAT DOES THAT, HOW WILL PEOPLE LOOK AT THE BZA? IF YOU SAY, LOOK, I WANNA BUY THIS AND I WANT A VARIANCE BECAUSE OF THAT, WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE REPUTATION OF THE BZA IN THE TOWN OF COLLIERVILLE? SO I THINK WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IS EVERY PERSON THAT IS ON BRAY STATION BOUGHT THEIR HOUSE, BOUGHT THEIR LOT UNDERNEATH THE FAR CODE THAT HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR 25 YEARS. WHY WOULD YOU MAKE A CHANGE TODAY? JUST FOR ONE LOT. SO HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF THAT OCCURRED TO YOU? SO ANYWAY, PLEASURE TO TALK TO YOU. APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ALRIGHT, I HAVE A MOTION PLEASE. CHAIRMAN LORE, I WANTED TO ASK YOU IF YOU WANTED TO GIVE A CHANCE FOR THE APPLICANT TO HAVE A REBUTTAL OR TO FOR ANY MORE COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT OR PROPERTY OWNER? SURE, YEAH. THAT IF THEY HAVE, I'D LIKE COME FORWARD IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD OR ADDRESS ABOUT THE CITIZEN'S COMMENTS. BRANDON SMITH. I'M THE PROPERTY OWNER. UM, I THOUGHT I GOT LUCKY WHEN I BOUGHT THAT LOT. I WONDERED WHO ON EARTH WOULD SELL SUCH A BEAUTIFUL LOT AND WHY WOULD THEY SELL IT? COULDN'T FIGURE IT OUT. I'M STARTING TO SEE THAT. UM, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU THOUGH IS MY FAMILY AND I BOUGHT THAT LOT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO. WE'VE LIVED IN COLLIERVILLE FOR 23 YEARS. UH, I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, I'M NOT A HOME BUILDER. I'M NOT A DESIGNER. AND SO I RELY ON OTHER PEOPLE TO HELP ME GUIDE, HELP GUIDE ME THROUGH THAT PROCESS. AND I THINK THEY'VE DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB. THE NEIGHBORS SEEM TO BE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE HOME THAN ANY OF THE OTHER ISSUES. UM, I'LL SPEAK TO THAT. THE [00:50:01] HOME THAT WE'RE BUILDING WILL NOT BE THE LARGEST HOME ON BRACE STATION OR THE SECOND OR THE THIRD OR THE FOURTH OR THE FIFTH LARGEST. UH, THERE ARE AT LEAST FIVE HOMES THAT WILL BE LARGER. WE INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED THE HOME IN SUCH A WAY THAT THEY WOULD MAINTAIN PRIVACY AND WE WOULD MAINTAIN PRIVACY. IT'S A WIDER LOT, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE, UH, TOPOGRAPHICAL ISSUES THAT WE'VE GOT AND THE SEPTIC TANK ISSUES, BUT ALSO SO THAT OUR WINDOWS ARE LOOKING IN FRONT AND BEHIND THE HOUSE INSTEAD OF IN OUR NEIGHBOR'S LAWN AND THEM SAME WAY. UM, THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR US. WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE QUAINT, CHARMING LOOK OF BRACE STATION AND LOOK TO MAINTAIN THAT. OUR HOPE IS TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT INCREASES PROPERTY VALUES AROUND US, HELPS ADD TO WHAT'S THERE AND NOT TAKE AWAY. UM, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM OUR STANDPOINT, WE'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING MALICIOUS OR RECKLESS. WE'VE FOLLOWED THE PROCEDURES AND GONE ONE STEP AT A TIME. UM, SOME OF THE LETTERS INSINUATE THAT MAYBE WE'VE BEEN RECKLESS AND GOTTEN AHEAD OF OURSELVES. ANYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE ON THE LOT HAS BEEN DONE THROUGH PERMIT. UM, SO WE'VE GONE STEP BY STEP AND AS WE'VE HAD ISSUES COME UP LIKE THIS, UH, WE'RE DOING THE SAME AS OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE DONE. AND, UH, REQUESTING A VARIANCE 10 OUT OF THE 18 LOTS ON THAT STREET DON'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF 75 FOOT SETBACK FROM STRUCTURES. WE'RE NOT BUILDING ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA LOOK ANY DIFFERENT OR FEEL ANY DIFFERENT FOR THE NEIGHBORS. AND WE'RE HOPING TO ADD A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY TO THE ROAD THAT I THINK ONCE BUILT. EVERYONE WILL APPRECIATE US THERE. THANK YOU. THANKS SIR. ALRIGHT. I HAVE A MOTION. PLEASE PUT THERE MOTION. MOTION. THANK YOU. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE TO ALLOW A SINGLE, UH, DWELLING TO ENCROACH INTO THE REQUIRED SIDE YARD SETBACK, SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS TO APPROVE IN EXHIBIT B OR TWO. EXCUSE ME. CAN I GET A SECOND? SECOND. ALRIGHT, NOW IT'S TIME THAT WE HAVE OPEN DISCUSSION. SO WE'LL BE TALKING AMONGST OURSELVES, BUT YOU'RE ABLE TO HEAR EVERYTHING THAT WE SAY. SO FOR OUR NEW PEOPLE ON THE BOARD, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU'S SPEAKING TO YOUR MICROPHONE WHEN YOU'RE COMMENTING. UH, FOR THE RECORD, UM, WHO WANTS TO START? I'LL, I'LL START. HEATH HUT SMITH. UM, I'M NOT A BUILDER, I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE AGENT, BUT TO ME TO TRY TO JUSTIFY THAT THIS WAS ZONED FAR AND NOT TO FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES AND TRY TO FOLLOW OTHER GUIDELINES IS HARD FOR ME TO, TO SAY THAT THERE IS A CAUSE FOR, UH, A STRUGGLE OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU BUY THE LAND, YOU'RE GONNA KNOW WHAT IT'S ZONED FOR. UH, AND YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW THOSE GUIDELINES. SO FOR ME, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO ACCEPT EXPERIENCE. AND, AND FOR ME, UH, WHEN YOU'RE CONSIDERING THESE VARIOUS, THE FIRST THING THAT YOU WANT TO, UH, IDENTIFY IS, ARE THERE STRONG, UH, HARDSHIPS OR THINGS THAT THE APPLICANT CANNOT AVOID THAT MAKES THEIR PROPERTY, UH, NOT USEFUL? UH, I'M HAVING A PROBLEM IDENTIFYING THAT THOSE, UH, HARDSHIPS THAT WILL REDUCE THE USE OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY. YEAH. I'LL, I'LL ADD TO THAT. BEING IN NN LAND DEVELOPMENT, AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN IN WORKING IN THIS TOWN, UH, WORKING FOR A DEVELOPER MYSELF, WHICH IS , UH, BOTH SIDES ARE, ARE VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT THEY BOTH HOLD A LITTLE BIT WEIGHT. UM, I, I RESONATE WITH THE BRAY STATION FOLKS THAT HAVE COME UP HERE, SOME OF WHICH THAT WERE ON THAT ORIGINAL DOCKET TO, TO SIGN ON TO THE FAR REZONING. UM, AT THE SAME TIME, IT SEEMS LIKE THE SMITH FAMILY WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THIS ROAD. AND, UH, WITH THE ARCHITECTS BACKGROUND, I HAVE NO DOUBTS THAT THEY COULD, THEY COULD MAKE SOMETHING WORK HERE BUT TO, TO COME IN, UM, AND BACK INTO SOMETHING, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE DON'T HAVE MORE OF THE SEPTIC DESIGN. UM, WHICH IS, HE'S RIGHT, IT IS AN, IS AN EXPENSIVE PROCESS. UM, BUT BRACE STATION SETS A HIGH STANDARD IN, IN OUR HIGH STANDARD TOWN. SO I, I ALSO HAVE TROUBLE BEING OKAY WITH GRANT A VARIANCE BECAUSE WE DO SET A PRECEDENCE FOR EVERYONE ELSE WHO COMES TO US. SO ALONG THOSE LINES, I MEAN, I COULD SEE WHERE THAT, YOU COULD SAY THAT WITH THE SEPTIC TANKS, IT'S, IT'S LIMITING THE LOT. BUT IF THE [00:55:01] SEPTIC TANKS WEREN'T WHERE THEY WERE PLACED, WOULD IT CHANGED THE, THE, THE PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE OF IT, THE HOUSE GOING ON THE SIDE TWO SIDES AND I DON'T SEE THAT. WELL, I MEAN IF THEY DID HAVE A SEWER MAIN TO TAP INTO, IF THEY HAD A SEWER MAIN THAT THAT, BUT THEY KNEW OPENS UP THE SEPTIC STIC. YEAH. SO IT'S A BIG, YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK AT, LOOK AT TOPOGRAPHY WHEN, AND, AND THEY DID YOU, YOU LOOK AT TOPOGRAPHY AND IT'S A, IT'S A BIG THING. DIRT IS NOT CHEAP AS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S CHEAP AS DIRT DIRT'S NOT CHEAP. RIGHT. UM, SAME THING. SEPTIC IS IS ALSO NOT, NOT CHEAP AND IS CUMBERSOME AND IS A PROCESS, UM, AND LIMITING. SO, BUT WITH YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH BUILDING, IF THOSE SEPTIC TANKS WERE THERE, WOULD THAT HOUSE STILL FIT ON THE LOT? IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WOULD UNLESS THEY TURNED IT COMPLETELY SIDEWAYS. WHICH YOU WOULDN'T WANNA DO THAT EITHER. NO. YOU, YOU WOULD LOSE THE, I'M SURE JEFF DID A GREAT JOB OF THE FRONT ELEVATION. I'M SURE IT'S BEAUTIFUL. UM, IT IS SURE. BE A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ELEVATIONS IN THE PACKET, IT IS A BEAUTIFUL HOUSE. UM, BUT IT CAN FIT, I THINK IT WOULD BE , I'M GONNA SAY THIS LIGHTLY BECAUSE THE DESIGNER, UM, HATES TO HEAR THE WORD REDESIGN 'CAUSE THEY'VE WORKED HARD. UM, BUT THERE IS SOME MORE ROOM. IT IS A LARGE HOUSE. I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY CREATIVE WAYS THAT THEY COULD DO IT, BUT I WILL NOT IMPOSE MYSELF TO REDESIGN SOMETHING. YEAH. SO, OKAY. I THINK EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SET UP HERE HOLDS, UH, GREAT VALUE. UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT KIND OF STOOD OUT WAS WHEN THIS WAS THOUGHT BY THE, UH, DESIGNER TO BE, UH, AN RL, THERE WASN'T A HARDSHIP. IT WAS ONCE, IT WAS REALIZED IN ESSENCE THAT IT WAS AN FAR, THAT THE HARDSHIP CAME INTO PLAY. UH, ONCE AGAIN, I, I AGREE WITH STEVE HERE THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY MALICIOUS INTENT AT ALL. I JUST, UH, I THINK THIS IS WHY WE'RE HERE AND, AND FOR THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE THAT THE TOWN GIVES PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO, TO BREAK THE LAW. THERE'S A PROCESS AND EVERYONE'S FOLLOWING THE PROCESS. SO, UH, THAT'S FINE. THE PROCESS IS HERE FOR A REASON. UM, SO I THINK WE'RE FOLLOWING THE PROCESS AND I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE ALL KIND OF IN THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS. SO WITH THAT, I RECOMMEND WE GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE. COMMISSIONER FLOYD? NO. COMMISSIONER HUTH? NO. COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS? NO. CHAIRMAN LETRELL? NO. ALRIGHT. SO GET BACK WITH THE TOWN AND, AND SEE WHAT, UH, Y'ALL CAN GET WORKED OUT AS FAR AS WHATEVER YOUR NEXT STEPS MAY BE. UM, ALL RIGHT. FOR THE CITIZENS WHO CAME OUT, THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. WE AP ALWAYS APPRECIATE THAT. UH, LET'S NOW MOVE [8 Announcements] ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. CHOOSE. UM, ALL RIGHT, SO, SO I WILL BE STAFFING OR SUPPORTING THE BZA MEETINGS FROM NOW ON. SO YOU'LL SEE ME WHENEVER WE HAVE A BZA MEETING AND JAMIE WILL BE MY BACKUP , UM, OR LIFEGUARD ACTUALLY. UM, WE HAD A PLANNING TECH, ANDREW, THIS IS HIS FIRST BZA MEETING. UM, HE WILL BE REPLACING LYNETTE. SO HE WILL BE DOING THE MINUTES AND RUNNING THE BZA MEETING. SO THERE'S ANDREW THERE AND HE'S BEEN WITH US SINCE JUNE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. JUNE. YEAH. WE HAVE A NEW PLANNER, UM, STARTING ON THE 20TH NEXT MONTH, UH, OR NEXT WEEK. I'M SORRY. SHE'S A MEMPHIS NATIVE. SHE'S MOVING BACK HOME. AND ALSO THERE'S SOME STATE REQUIRED TRAINING FOR 2026. THERE'S FOUR HOUR, FOUR HOURS MINIMUM REQUIRED BY THE STATE. AND THIS IS, THIS HAS TO BE DONE BY THE 31ST OF DECEMBER FOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND VZA. UM, THERE ARE, JAMIE'S GONNA BE WORKING ON A MEMO FOR TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES AND HE'LL, HE'LL SEND IT OUT TO YOU. UM, FOR NOW, THERE ARE NO ITEMS ON THE FEBRUARY BZA MEETING, BUT THE DEADLINE IS ON THE 27TH. SO SOMETHING COULD COME IN. AND ALSO, I GAVE YOU SOME LITTLE CARDS. THERE'S A QR CODE ON THE BACK. YES. IF YOU COULD TAKE, THERE'S A SURVEY YOU CAN TAKE FOR THE COMMUNITY. TAKE THAT BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH. I THINK IT EXPIRES AT THE END OF THE MONTH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE NOW. QUIN, I'M GONNA SAY THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN, I'M GOING TO THOUGH. , UH, I'M ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. UH, YOU BRACE STATION FOLKS, TAKE THE SURVEY. THIS [01:00:01] IS, OR EVERYBODY TAKE THE SURVEY, BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT YOU GUYS. , TELL YOUR FRIENDS ABOUT IT. TELL YOUR FRIENDS FRIENDS ABOUT IT. TELL YOUR HOAS ABOUT IT. UH, BECAUSE THIS DATA IS GONNA BE QUANTIFIED USED AND QUALA, SHEILA, ANDREW, LYNETTE, ALL THE STAFF IS WORKING TOGETHER WITH A FIRM OUT WEST THAT IS COMING, UH, FOR THIS 2050 COMP CLAIM. AND IT IS AN AMAZING THING TO BEHOLD. SO GET THE WORD OUT IF YOU DON'T MIND. ALRIGHT, WELL THERE'S NOTHING ELSE. MEETING ADJOURNED. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.