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OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, PLEASE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL GREEN. HERE, GODDARD. HERE. SLED. ROZANSKI. FLETCHER. GIVEN. DEVOS STAMPS. HERE.
COTTON. YES. HERE. COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE OUR NEXT ITEM TO APPROVE OUR MINUTES OF
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OUR OCTOBER 2ND MEETING. I ASSUME THAT YOU'VE ALL HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS? I HEAR NONE. I CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE.APPROVE. OCTOBER 2ND, 2020 FIVE MINUTES. SECOND MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
GODDARD. YES. SLED. YES. FLETCHER. YES. GIVEN. YES. DUBOSE. STAMPS. YES. GREEN. YES.
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COTTON. YES. JAMIE. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE PUBLISHED AGENDA FOR TONIGHT? THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CHANGES. I'LL LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT TWO ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS OR ANYTHING ABOUT THOSE CASES, AND EXPECT THOSE TO STAY ON UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE FORMAL AGENDA. WE DID HEAR ABOUT ITEMS EIGHT B AND EIGHT C. THOSE ARE THE CASES RELATED TO THE MLK W HYBRID ENERGY SITE REZONING AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AND GMW HAS ASKED FOR A DEFERRAL UNTIL THE TOWN COULD INVESTIGATE SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO APPLY AN INDUSTRIAL ZONING TO THAT AREA.AND SO THAT'S THE SOONEST THAT THEY MIGHT SEE THAT. YOU ALL MIGHT SEE THAT AS THE JANUARY PLANNING COMMISSION. SO THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE IS B AND C, B AND C WOULD BE DEFERRED TO JANUARY. COMMISSIONERS, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS DESCRIBED BY MISTER GROSS? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS DESCRIBED BY MR. GROSS. SECOND MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SLED. YES. FLETCHER. YES. GIVEN. DUBOSE. STAMPS. YES.
GREEN. YES. GODDARD. YES. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER. LADIES AND
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GENTLEMEN, WE ARE PART OF OUR MEETING TONIGHT WHERE WE HAVE NOW. WE HAVE A LOT OF BLUE CARDS, AND YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT. BUT IF YOU'RE HERE AND YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK ON ANYTHING THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, BUT YOU JUST WANT TO SPEAK ON, YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING ON YOUR CHEST THAT YOU NEED TO GET OFF ABOUT THE TOWN OR SOMETHING GOING ON IN TOWN. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE FOR CITIZEN COMMENTS. AND SINCE I DON'T SEE ANYONE RUNNING TO THE MA'AM WE HAVE. YES, MA'AM. IS THAT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA? NO, NOT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THERE'S A GENERAL COMMENT.ABOUT YOU. OKAY. THAT WILL IF YOU WOULD, MA'AM, COME UP AND STATE YOUR NAME AND TELL US WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND. OKAY. HELLO. OKAY. NOW. EXCELLENT. OKAY. TELL THEM YOUR NAME. MY NAME? NO. TELL ME YOUR NAME. MY NAME. YES. YOU GO TO. NO. YOU GUESS, YOU KNOW. OKAY. TELL ME YOUR ADDRESS. 540 80. 85. OKAY. AND DO YOU WANT TO TELL THEM ABOUT THE ANTS AND THE PARK? AND WHAT HAPPENED WITH YOUR OWN HALLOWEEN? WITH YOUR COSTUME? YEAH. GO AHEAD, TALK IN THE MICROPHONE. I DON'T KNOW PART, BUT BUT. THERE WAS ANTS ON MY COSTUME. OKAY. AND HOW DID IT MAKE YOU FEEL WHEN THE ANTS GOT ON YOUR COSTUME? WELL, WELL, WELL, WELL, I. HA HA HA. SHE 321. OKAY. HOW DID IT MAKE YOU FEEL WHEN THE ANTS WERE ON YOUR COSTUME? DID IT HURT, MA'AM? NO,
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BUT IT'S IN THE MICROPHONE. ALSO, MY BUTT WAS MY. BUT MY COSTUME. OKAY. AND HOW DO YOU THINK THE ANTS FELT WHEN YOU RODE ON THEIR ANTHILL? WELL, THEY UPSET, OKAY, BUT. THAT'S OKAY. AND MY OTHER DAUGHTER WANTS TO. YES. CAN YOU TELL THEM YOUR NAME? YOUR. COULD YOU TELL THEM YOUR ADDRESS? YES. YEAH. FIVE, 540. POTATO DRIVE. YEAH. IT'S ANOTHER. COSTUME.OKAY. YEAH. OKAY. MOMMY. I5I5. KNOW I FIVE NOW. YEAH. SHE'S FIVE NOW OKAY. CAN YOU TELL THEM YOUR NAME. CHLOE. MARIE LUCAS. YES. AND YOU KNOW YOUR ADDRESS. YEAH. 55402 HARRIS.
ESTATE. DRIVE. SAY, YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT THE ANTS AT THE PARK? YEAH. GO AHEAD.
TELL US TODAY. AND. AND AND AND. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I'LL JUST. I KNOW SOME OF THEIR SPEECH WAS NOT HEARD, SO I WILL JUST ADD THAT WE WENT TO THE PARK ON HALLOWEEN AND MCCREA PARK. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. OH, MY NAME, I'M SORRY. MY NAME IS JODY MARIE JONES. LUCAS, 540 HARRIS ESTATE DRIVE, COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE, 38017. AND AGAIN, WE WENT TO THE PARK ON HALLOWEEN AND THEY'RE TRYING TO TELL YOU ABOUT EXPERIENCE. WHICH PARK? NIKKI MCCRAY PARK. OKAY, OKAY.
AND SO I JUST START OFF AND SAY, WHEN I WAS YOUNG, MY DAD USED TO TAKE MY FAMILY DOWNTOWN AND WE WOULD USE A PIECE OF CARDBOARD AND SLIDE DOWN THIS BIG OLD HILL. WELL, NOW THAT I'M OLD, I HAVE CHILDREN, AS YOU CAN SEE. AND ON HALLOWEEN, AFTER EXERCISING AND EATING CANDY AND CHASING AND THROWING LEAVES AT EACH OTHER, MY SON ASKED IF HE COULD ROLL DOWN A HILL. AND WE ALL DID. AND THEY JUST TOLD YOU WHAT HAPPENED WITH ANTS GETTING ON THE COSTUME AND BITING THEM. AND SO, ON BEHALF OF THE CHILDREN, I'M ASKING FOR THE TOWN TO APPLY FOR A PARK AND RECREATION GRANT FROM THE STATE OF TENNESSEE. AND FOR GREG CLARK, OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS, RECREATION AND CULTURAL ARTS, TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR RESIDENTIAL, COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL COMMUNITIES TO INVEST IN A VISION OF GROWTH AND INNOVATION. FOR NIKKI MCCRAY PARK AND ACTUALIZE A STRESS FREE MOVE FOR THE NUMEROUS AMOUNT OF ANTHILLS THAT ARE PARKED TO A NEW HABITAT. THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HEAR FROM US. THANK YOU MA'AM. ARE THERE ANY OTHERS? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE
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ON. COMMISSIONERS, DO I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA? MOTION TO APPROVE CONSENT AGENDA. SECOND. MOTION MADE IN SECOND. AND, ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.FLETCHER GIVEN. DUBOSE. STAMPS. YES. GREEN. YES. GODDARD. YES. SLED. YES. COTTON. YES. MOMMY.
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OKAY. ALL RIGHT. OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE FORMAL AGENDA TONIGHT IS CASE NUMBER 252698. AND I BELIEVE, JAMIE, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION. THAT'S CORRECT. THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO CONSIDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. OR SOMETIMES WE CALL IT A CUP FOR A DUPLEX AT 544 HARRIS STREET. APPLICANT IS MS. INC. BENJAMIN BOMMARITO REPRESENTS THAT GROUP.AND HE'S HERE TONIGHT. THE PROPERTY OWNER IS CHARLOTTE TATE. THE LOCATION IS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HARRIS STREET BETWEEN HIGHWAY 72 AND WEST STREET. THE LOT SIZE IS 0.33 ACRES. THE ZONING IS R-3, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND THERE ARE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE EMAILED OUT EARLIER TODAY AND WANTED AND SOME WERE FOR THE PROJECT, SOME WERE AGAINST THE PROJECT. ONE WASN'T INCLUDED. THAT CAME IN A LITTLE BIT LATER, AND I DID GET A
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LETTER FROM A GUY NAMED JOHNNY BROOKS, AND I WOULD SAY THAT HE WAS ALSO SPEAKING AGAINST THE REZONING OR THE OR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AND HIS REASONS WERE THAT IT'S INCONSISTENT WITH THE THE PREDOMINANT SINGLE FAMILY PATTERN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THAT'LL BE ENTERED AS EXHIBIT 11. THE PUBLIC COMMENTS. SO BEFORE WE GET TOO MUCH FURTHER, I MIGHT EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS IS FOR. AND IN COLLIERVILLE, WITH OUR ZONING, WE HAVE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT WHERE YOU DON'T NEED REALLY MUCH REVIEW AT ALL. YOU MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO JUST OCCUPY A SPACE OR JUST WORK WITH CODES IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, ALL ADMINISTRATIVE, TO BE ABLE TO TO CHANGE THE USE OF A PROPERTY OR TO BUILD A BUILDING. OR WE HAVE SOME USES THAT ARE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH IS AND WHEN IN SOME DISTRICTS A DUPLEX MIGHT BE ALLOWED, NOT ALL DISTRICTS, BUT IN SOME THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS. IT'S IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE TOWN HAS SAID. YES, BUT YES, IT'S ALLOWED THERE. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S A GOOD FIT. SO WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THERE'S SEVERAL QUESTIONS THAT WE ASK. DOES IT MATCH THE LAND USE PLAN. IS IT GOING TO CREATE ADVERSE IMPACTS. IS THERE ADEQUATE WATER AND SEWER THINGS LIKE THAT. SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE DOING TONIGHT IS WE'RE CONSIDERING THE YES.BUT AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT DOES IT MEET ALL THE CRITERIA TO LOCATE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT THIS LOCATION. AND THAT'S WHAT I'LL GET INTO. SO WITH THE THE PROPERTY IT'S KNOWN AS LOT NUMBER TWO OF THE BURKMAN SUBDIVISION. SO IT'S AN OLDER SUBDIVISION. IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. THERE IS AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON THE PROPERTY THAT WAS BUILT IN 1955. AND IT'S BEEN DAMAGED IN RECENT YEARS BY FIRE. AND IT'S BOARDED UP AND IT IS IN DISREPAIR. THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO DEMOLISH THIS BUILDING, AND INSTEAD OF PUTTING A SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSE BACK, THEY'VE ASKED THEY'VE APPLIED TO PUT A DUPLEX BACK, WHICH BY DUPLEX I MEAN TWO DWELLING UNITS ON ONE ONE PROPERTY, ONE LOT. THEY WOULD BE PHYSICALLY ATTACHED TO EACH OTHER. SO ONE STRUCTURE WITH TWO DWELLING UNITS INSIDE RIGHT THERE. THERE'S ONLY ONE DWELLING ON, ON THE PROPERTY.
SO THERE'S NO DOCUMENTED HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE FOR THIS, THIS DWELLING. IT'S NOT IN THE THE LOCAL HISTORIC DISTRICT, THE LOCAL HISTORIC OVERLAY. AND IT'S NOT IN THE NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT. SO AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE STUDIED ALL PROPERTIES THAT WERE OVER 50 YEARS OLD RECENTLY. WE DO THAT EVERY TEN YEARS OR SO. THIS PROPERTY WAS STUDIED AND WAS DETERMINED TO NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE NATIONAL REGISTER. SO WE DO NOT BELIEVE IT HAS ANY HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE. THIS IS A CONCEPTUAL DRAWING THAT THE APPLICANT GAVE US, AND I'LL BE QUICK TO SAY THIS IS NOT BEING APPROVED TONIGHT. YOU'RE JUST SAYING WHETHER THIS DUPLEX SHOULD BE LOCATED AT THIS PROPERTY OR NOT. THERE WILL BE A SEPARATE APPLICATION PROCESS TO ACTUALLY APPROVE THE DESIGN DRAWINGS, BUT THE APPLICANT WANTED TO SHOW YOU AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE BOARD WHAT THEY PLAN TO DO. AND SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU SEE A PICTURE OF A DWELLING. IT'S GOT TWO, TWO DOORS, TWO HOUSEHOLDS THAT WOULD BE THERE. AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU CAN SEE WHERE IT WOULD SIT ON THE LOT.
IT WOULD SIT ABOUT 30FT FROM THE ROAD, WHICH IS ABOUT WHERE THE OTHER HOUSES OUT THERE SIT RIGHT NOW. THEY WOULD HAVE TWO DRIVEWAYS INSTEAD OF SHARING A DRIVEWAY, AND WOULD BE ABOUT 24FT FROM THE SIDE. PROPERTY LINES WITH THE 77 FOOT DEEP BACKYARDS. RATHER LARGE BACKYARD. RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT PLANNING ANY GARAGES OR CARPORTS, AND THEY'VE TOLD US THAT THEY PLAN TO TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO KEEP COSTS DOWN. THEY'RE TRYING TO PROVIDE A A LOWER PRICE POINT, SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T OUT OUTPACE OR OUT OUT PRICE.
POTENTIAL RENTERS IN THE FOR THIS DUPLEX AND THE SCALE WOULD MATCH AND BLEND IN WITH THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. THE EXISTING HOUSES ALONG THE STREET ARE ALL ONE STORY, MAYBE ONE AND A HALF STORY. YOU MIGHT SEE A LITTLE DORMER ON ON ABOVE A ROOF LINE, BUT THEY'RE MOSTLY ONE STORY HOUSES IN THIS AREA. THERE'S A RECOMMENDED CONDITION OF APPROVAL THAT WOULD REQUIRE THE STRUCTURE STRUCTURE TO BE NO GREATER THAN ONE AND A HALF STORY, TO TRY TO BLEND IN WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND AS THEY GET FARTHER IN THE PROCESS, THE DESIGN GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.
WE DO HAVE GUIDELINES THAT APPLY TO ALL ATTACHED DWELLINGS ALL THE WAY FROM DUPLEX LIKE THIS, ALL THE WAY UP TO A LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEX. AND SO SOME OF THE STANDARDS MIGHT NOT MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF SENSE FOR ONE DUPLEX ON A SMALL LOT, BUT WE'LL HAVE TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS. ON, ON THOSE ON THAT SITE. AND IF THEY'RE ASKED FOR ANY WAIVERS, THEY MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION. SO THERE MAY BE
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ADDITIONAL PUBLIC MEETINGS IF THIS IS APPROVED. THERE ARE MINIMUM BULK REQUIREMENTS IN THE R-3 ZONING DISTRICT FOR DUPLEXES. AND THEY DO MEET THOSE, THEY DO EXCEED. THE LOT IS OVER 12,000FTā !S. AND R-3 ZONING DOES ALLOW FOR DUPLEX BY CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, BUT ALSO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHENEVER WE LOOK AT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE THE LONG RANGE PLAN, THE LONG TERM VISION. THE 2040 PLAN IS WHAT WE CALL IT TO DETERMINE TO DETERMINE IS DO WE ANTICIPATE ATTACHED DWELLINGS LIKE LIKE A DUPLEX. DO WE ANTICIPATE DUPLEXES IN THIS AREA. AND SO THE THE ANSWERING THAT QUESTION A DUPLEX IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE THE 2040 POLICY POLICIES FOR THIS AREA. THIS AREA IS WHAT WE CALL THE A SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD PLACE TYPE. SO THERE'S A WHOLE THERE'S A WHOLE SECTION OF THE 2040 PLAN DEVOTED TO THAT, THAT PAGE AND A LARGE PORTION OF THE RESIDENTIAL HOUSING STOCK IN CARTERVILLE, NORTH OF POPLAR, SOUTH OF 385 IS IS DESIGNATED AS THE CONVENTIONAL SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD PLACE TYPE. AND IT SAYS THAT THE PREDOMINANT LAND USE WILL BE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, AND IT DOESN'T MENTION ANY OTHER TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL. AND FOR THAT REASON, SINCE THE DUPLEX IS NOT ANTICIPATED OR NOT LISTED ON THIS PAGE, A DUPLEX WOULD NOT BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS LOCATION PER THE 2040 PLAN. SECONDARY USES MIGHT INVOLVE LIKE CHURCHES OR GREEN SPACES. BUT BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. AND IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, ON THIS BLOCK ARE ALL SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOUSES. ALSO, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE 2040 PLAN, THERE ARE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT TALK ABOUT HOW DENSE A NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD BE, HOW MANY HOUSES PER ACRE. AND IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA, THE TEAL COLOR ON YOUR MAP SHOWS BETWEEN TWO AND A HALF TO THREE UNITS PER ACRE FOR THE MAXIMUM DENSITY FOR FOR THE AREA. SO IF A DUPLEX, IF THERE ARE TWO DWELLING UNITS ON THIS PROPERTY, IT'S GOING TO BE SLIGHTLY OVER SIX UNITS AN ACRE. SO THAT'S ANOTHER AREA WHERE IT DOESN'T QUITE FIT WITH THE 2040 PLAN AND IT DOESN'T MATCH. IT'S MORE DENSE. ANOTHER WAY TO SAY IT IS IT'S MORE DENSE THAN WHAT WE ANTICIPATED. THE TEAL COLOR IS ESSENTIALLY THE DENSITY OF WHAT IS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, AND DOESN'T ANTICIPATE INFILL WITH WITH HIGHER DENSITY. IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THERE ARE SOME OTHER DUPLEXES OUT THERE IN THIS AREA, SO WE LOOKED PRETTY FAR DOWN HARRIS STREET ON THE OTHER SIDE OF OF HIGHWAY 72 THERE. THERE'S A DUPLEX THERE ON HARRIS STREET RIGHT ACROSS FROM NEAR THE THE OLD SKATING CENTER. AND THEN WHEN YOU GO DOWN SOUTH STREET, THERE'S SOME DUPLEXES THERE. THERE'S SOME ON COLLEGE STREET, POPLAR AVENUE, ONE ON MILL STREET. AND THE BMA HAS RECENTLY APPROVED SEVERAL PAIRED TOWNHOUSES OR DUPLEXES FOR A PROPERTY THAT THE GREEN'S OWN. BUT IT'S UNDEVELOPED ON NORTH ROWLETT STREET, SO THERE ARE SEVERAL IN THIS AREA. A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES ARE ZONED R3. SOME OF THESE DUPLEXES MAY EVEN PREDATE OUR MODERN ZONING AND MAY BE LAWFUL NON NON-CONFORMING STRUCTURES. I KNOW AT LEAST THE ONE ON ON POPLAR AVENUE IS. SO IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD DID WANT TO CITE A REASON TO ALLOW DUPLEX IN THIS AREA, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO CITE THAT THERE ARE DUPLEXES IN THIS THIS AREA. SO AGAIN, DESIGN THE DESIGN GUIDELINES WILL APPLY.AND WE'LL LOOK AT THAT DURING THE SITE PLAN AND BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS. TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES. AND ALSO DURING THAT TIME WE'LL LOOK AT THINGS LIKE LANDSCAPING AND BUFFERING THE WATER AND SEWER CONNECTIONS AND THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE SITE. SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE CANNOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL BECAUSE THE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DOES NOT MATCH THE LAND USE PLAN AS I DESCRIBED EARLIER. BUT IT IS WORTH NOTING THAT THERE ARE SOME DUPLEXES IN THE AREA, AND THERE ARE ALSO SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES. THE APPLICANT, IN TALKING WITH THEM, I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS A PERCEIVED NEED THAT THE HOUSE IS IN DISREPAIR. THEY DIDN'T THINK THAT THEY COULD PROFITABLY REPLACE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE WITH ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, AND BEING ABLE TO SELL THAT OR RENT THAT OUT. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO AND BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE TOLD US, HELP STABILIZE THE AREA, HELP ADDRESS THIS, THIS BLIGHTED PROPERTY AND IMPROVE THIS EYESORE, AND EVEN ADDRESS SOME AFFORDABILITY ISSUES THAT THAT WE KNOW THAT EXISTS IN OUR COMMUNITY. SO THAT THAT IS PART OF THE DYNAMIC OF THIS REQUEST.
AND IF THE ANSWER IS NO TO THIS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND BOARD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE
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THE APPLICANT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S HERE TO WORK WITH OUR HARDEEVILLE 2050 PLAN, OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE'RE JUST NOW STARTING TO DEVELOP TO FIND SOLUTIONS THAT MIGHT HELP STABILIZE THE NEIGHBORHOOD. MAYBE DUPLEXES ARE THE ANSWER. MAYBE. MAYBE THERE ARE OTHER ANSWERS TO HELP STABILIZE AND IMPROVE IMPROVE THE AREA. BUT THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT VENUE AND PROCESS TO TALK ABOUT. WHAT ARE THE LAND USE PLAN POLICIES AND WHY? WHY ARE THEY THERE AND COULD THEY CHANGE TO HELP FURTHER ENCOURAGE STABILIZATION AND IMPROVEMENT OF THE AREA? SO SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS IF YOU RECOMMEND THIS. EITHER WAY, IF YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL, EVEN IF YOU DON'T RECOMMEND APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT COULD GO ON TO THE BMA FOR A DECISION. ULTIMATELY, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS DECIDED BY THE MAYOR AND BOARD, SO THIS COULD BE ON THE MAYOR AND BOARD'S NOVEMBER 24TH AGENDA. IF THEY APPROVE THAT, THERE WOULD BE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND IF THEY WOULD SUBMIT FOR A FINAL SITE PLAN, WE WOULD REVIEW THAT ADMINISTRATIVELY. UNLESS WE FIND THAT IT DOESN'T MEET SOME KIND OF TOWN STANDARD. AND IN THAT WAY, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMISSION AND MAYOR AND BOARD THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS TO GET WAIVERS OF THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, AND THEN THEY COULD GET THEIR BUILDING PERMIT AND DEMOLITION PERMIT. THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION AND I'M AVAILABLE. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS, I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THERE A CONCERN, JAMIE, ABOUT IF WE WERE TO VOTE YES ON THIS, THAT IT WOULD SET A SOME SORT OF PRECEDENT AS WELL FOR FUTURE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE SOMEONE MAY WANT TO COME IN IN A SINGLE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND PUT A DUPLEX IN THERE, THAT WE WOULD SET A PRECEDENT FOR THAT. IN A WAY, YES. BUT WE TRY TO BE CAREFUL WITH THE WORD PRECEDENT. NATHAN TELLS ME A LOT. HE'S LIKE, JUST REMEMBER, EVERY CASE IS A CASE BY CASE BASIS. YOU LOOK AT THE FACTORS OF THAT CASE. SO IF SOMEBODY ASKS FOR THIS IN THE MIDDLE OF ROSEWOOD PLANTATION OR WELLINGTON FARMS, WHERE IT'S THE SAME LAND USE POLICIES, BUT THERE WAS NO CONTEXT, BUT THERE ARE NO DUPLEXES IN THE AREA, THAT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT SITUATION. SO IF YOU DO FIND GROUNDS EXIST, YOU MIGHT WANT TO REFERENCE WHY THIS CASE IS DIFFERENT BASED ON SOME OF THOSE THOSE OTHER CASES. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. WE WILL BE GOING OVER THE LOT SIZES IN THE PROXIMITY. AND YOU HAVE THE LOT SIZES, THE PROXIMITY OF THAT IN COMPARISON TO THE OTHER ONES. OH, I DON'T HAVE IT QUANTITATIVELY PULLED UP, BUT I CAN ZOOM IN THE MAP BEHIND ME. YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THIS BLOCK WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE THE HOUSE. AND I JUST HIGHLIGHTED THE HOUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THEY'RE ALL ABOUT THE SAME WIDTH. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT LARGER COMPARED TO SOME OF THE OTHER LOTS. THERE'S SOME REALLY NARROW LOTS AS YOU GET CLOSER TO HIGHWAY 72, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE NEW INFILL WE'VE SEEN IN THE HISTORIC OR RIGHT OUTSIDE THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE SQUARE. SO THOSE KIND OF DIMENSIONS AND LOT PLACEMENT, BUT A PRETTY, PRETTY ECLECTIC AREA, BUT ALL SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. WHAT'S THE TIMELINE ON THE 2050 PLAN? WE THINK IT WILL TAKE ABOUT 18 MONTHS AND WE'RE ABOUT A MONTH IN. SO IT'S VERY, VERY EARLY. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BIG KICKOFF IN THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER, THAT WEEK OF DECEMBER 15TH, TRYING TO GET SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND PUBLIC FEEDBACK EARLY ON. THERE'S A STEERING COMMITTEE THAT'S FORMED, BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TILL WE GET TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT. AND EVEN THEN, IF WE CAME UP WITH IDEAS ON HOW TO HOW TO COME UP WITH NEW ZONING TOOLS OR WE'VE GOT TO FIX THIS OR THAT, THEN WE'D HAVE TO DEVELOP THOSE NEW ZONING TOOLS. SO IT MIGHT BE A COUPLE OF YEARS OUT BEFORE WE COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT THE NEEDS ARE, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SOLUTIONS ARE, AND ACTUALLY CHANGE SOME OF THESE POLICIES.A GOOD 2 TO 3 YEARS. AWAY. COMMISSIONER JAMIE, I'LL TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED THAT THERE WAS A CARD THAT WAS SENT OUT TO SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS. HAVE YOU HAD ANY FEEDBACK FROM NEIGHBORS OR ANYBODY APPROACHED THE TOWN ABOUT ABOUT THIS REQUEST? WE DID HAVE SOME. THERE WAS SOME COMMENTS. THERE WERE THREE COMMENTS IN SUPPORT. THERE WERE THERE WAS A HANDWRITTEN LETTER AND THEN AN EMAIL AGAINST THE THE CASE. OTHER QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. HELLO, BENJAMIN BOMMARITO 1011 WEST POPLAR, COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE. SO THE THE PROPOSED DUPLEX, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT PRESIDENCY. IF WE DO APPROVE THE THE CURRENT
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STREET DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY TYPE OF STRUCTURE WHEN IT COMES TO LOT SIZE AND LAYOUT. THE THE CURRENT LOT IS 0.33 ACRES AND ACROSS THE STREET IS 0.18 ACRES. BUT WHEN WE REFER TO JAMIE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE NARROW LOTS, THERE'S ONE HOUSE DIVIDING. 544 TO THE NARROW LOTS ON OUR LEFT.THEY'RE ALL SUB 30 FOOT WIDE, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH 93FT, SO WE ARE SEVEN FEET SHY OF JUST BEING ABLE TO BE A DOUBLE. THERE'S TWO LOTS AND SPLIT IT DOWN THE MIDDLE. SO WITH WITH THAT THE YOU KNOW OF COURSE THE STANDARD IS DIFFERENT. ONE THING THAT WASN'T MENTIONED IS TRIPLEXES AND WEST STREET WHERE IT MEETS HARRIS. THERE CURRENTLY IS A TRIPLEX AND IT IS 400FT FROM OUR CURRENT 544 HARRIS STREET. SO THERE ISN'T ANY DUPLEXES, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE IMMEDIATE. BUT THERE IS A TRIPLEX IMMEDIATELY AT THE END OF THE STREET. YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY AND YOUNG LIKE HOMEOWNERSHIP. AND THIS JUST BRINGS MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR YOUNGER INDIVIDUALS TO OWN A PROPERTY IN COLLIERVILLE. AND SO THEY CAN WORK AND LIVE IN COLLIERVILLE IF, IF THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO. LET'S SEE.
THE WE TALKED ABOUT THE 2040 PLAN AND HOW IT OVERLOOKS THE DENSITY. BUT THAT'S REALLY IT DOESN'T FACTOR IN THE CURRENT DENSITY OF THAT STREET, ESPECIALLY WITH THE THE LOTS TO THE EAST. AND JUST HOW PACKED IN THEY ARE WITH THE HOUSE SEPARATION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND HOW MUCH WILL BE ABLE TO OFFSET IT FROM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MATCH IT ON THE FRONT AND THE OFFSET ON THE SIDES. IT'S GOING TO MATCH THE CURRENT CHARACTERISTICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND JUST BE UPDATED. AND IT'S MORE OF A MODERN DUPLEX THAN YOUR TRADITIONAL OFFICE STYLE DUPLEX, OR SOMETHING THAT THAT APPEARS TO BE A MOTEL. SO THAT'S. OKAY.
SO I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I HEARD WHAT YOU SAID.
THE LOT IS 93 FOOT AND THE ADJACENT LOTS ARE 30 FOOT LOTS. TO THE EAST THERE IS ONE HOUSE AND THEN THERE ARE FIVE HOMES. THEY ARE ALL SUB 30FT WIDE. WE ARE AT 544, 93 FOOT WIDE, AND THEN WE ARE AT 544 .33 ACRES. ALL THE HOUSES ACROSS THE STREET ARE 0.18 ACRES, SO THERE'S NOT REALLY A STANDARD OR A PATTERN, PARTICULARLY FOR THIS STREET CURRENTLY. HOW WIDE IS THE CURRENT HOUSE? IN COMPARISON TO WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON BUILDING? IT? OUR CURRENT PLAN TO BUILD WOULD GIVE US 24 FOOT OFF OF THE PROPERTY LINE ON EACH SIDE. WE.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE HOW WIDE THE CURRENT HOUSE IS AND WHERE IT LAYS OUT. THERE WE GO, ABOUT 50FT WIDE ACCORDING TO THIS AREA. SO IF ANYTHING WOULD BE, WE'D BE. 44 WITH OUR PROPOSED IDEA. OF COURSE, WE'D GO THROUGH PLANNING AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE WOULD BE MORE NARROW, SLIGHTLY DEEPER AND CENTERED. MR. STAMPS? YEAH. IS THE INTENT TO KEEP THIS AS AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY TO RENT IT OUT, OR WILL IT BE SOLD? WE'D LIKE TO SELL IT THEORETICALLY, UNLESS I PERSONALLY WOULD ENTERTAIN PURCHASING JUST AS A FIRST HOME OPPORTUNITY AND THEN RENT THE OTHER SIDE OUT. YES, SIR. BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANY FIRM PLANS RIGHT NOW. NO PLANS? NO AGREEMENTS? NO, SIR. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. WAS THERE ANY CONSIDERATION OR STUDY DONE FOR
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BUILDING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD? IT WAS CONSIDERED, BUT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTERISTICS ALL BEING SO DIFFERENT AND THERE BEING A TRIPLEX AND THERE BEING NARROW HOMES. THIS IS ONE OF THE LARGEST LOTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SO IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO TO HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING THAT IS JUST ON A LARGE LOT NEXT TO STUFF THAT'S SO COMPACT AND DENSE. AS I JUST READ WHAT, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND SOMETHING BECAUSE WE GOT A 93 FOOT LOT. I THINK YOU'RE SAYING I DON'T. WE'RE CONFUSING TERMINOLOGY HERE.THEY'RE SAYING THAT THE LOTS ADJACENT ARE 30 FOOT LOTS. IT SEEMS REALLY NARROW, BUT I'M GOING TO GO WITH. YES, SIR. I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IF THAT'S TRUE, THEN YOU COULD FIT TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THIS LOT. AND THAT'S PROBABLY MORE CONDUCIVE TO WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOKS LIKE. AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE DIRECTION THAT THE 2040 PLAN WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU GO. AND WE WOULD SUPPORT THAT COMPLETELY. WE ARE AT 93FT. I BELIEVE IT IS REQUIRED 50FT TO BUILD. SO IT'D HAVE TO BE 100 FOOT WIDE LOT. SO IT WOULD BE 3.5FT SHORT ON EACH SIDE. BUT WE COULD STRUCTURE TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND SPLIT THE LOT DOWN THE MIDDLE, YOU KNOW, UPON APPROVAL, IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING ENTERTAINED. IF I COULD INTERJECT REAL QUICK AND SAY, LIKE, AND HERE'S WHERE MAYBE OUR EXISTING ZONING TOOLS START TO BREAK DOWN A LITTLE BIT. YOU CAN SEE THESE 30 FOOT WIDE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED TO HAVE WITH THE ZONING DISTRICT THAT REQUIRES A 50 FOOT WIDE LOT SIZE. SO THEY'RE WHAT WE CALL LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING. OR SOME PEOPLE SAY THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED IN.
BUT SO WE'VE APPLIED THAT TO THIS AREA. BUT THE ZONING IS NOT REALLY A GOOD FIT FOR THAT.
WE DO HAVE SOME OTHER ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ALLOW FOR MORE NARROW LOTS, LIKE NEAR THE SQUARE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD. BUT RIGHT NOW THAT ZONING DISTRICT ISN'T USED OUTSIDE OF THE THE DOWNTOWN AREA. SO MAYBE WE GO THROUGH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PROCESS AND WE LEARN THAT.
AND WE STUDIED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE REALIZED, WELL, MAYBE THE PREDOMINANT LOT SIZE IS LESS THAN WHAT R3 ALLOWS NOW. AND WE RETOOLED R3 OR WE COME UP WITH MAYBE, MAYBE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD CAN HAPPEN IN THIS AREA, OR MAYBE THIS AREA IS ABSORBED INTO THE DOWNTOWN AREA IN SOME WAY. SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE POLICY CHANGES THAT WOULD HAPPEN. AND WE AND BEFORE COMING TO YOU TONIGHT, WE DID TALK STAFF TALKED WITH THE APPLICANT ABOUT REZONING ALL THESE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES. AND IF THEY HAD ASKED TO REZONE THIS TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WOULD BE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION BUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY. THAT TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T FIT THE THE CONVENTIONAL SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD PLACE TYPE. SO WE'VE GOT TO RETHINK THESE POLICIES AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOR THIS, THIS, THIS AREA AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THE RIGHT TOOLS. BUT THERE ARE SIGNS SUCH AS THE LOT WIDTH, THAT THE OUR TOOLS MIGHT NOT BE THE RIGHT TOOLS FOR THIS AREA.
THAT WAS THAT WAS MY OH, YOU GOT THAT RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. JAMIE, CAN YOU SHOW US THE THE TRIPLEX OR DO YOU. YES. THAT IS 191 WEST STREET.
THAT'S AT THE END OF THE STREET. AND I NEGLECTED TO MENTION THAT ONE. AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THERE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME DOORS ADDED. THIS IS THE OLD WALKER GROCERY STORE AND IT IS ZONED COMMERCIAL AND IT IS NOT. YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT AND IT JUST CONVENIENTLY SHOWS YOU WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE AND AFTER. BUT THIS IS ZONED COMMERCIALLY. IT IS NOT ZONED FOR A TRIPLEX.
IT'S BEEN CONVERTED TO A TRIPLEX AT SOME POINT. IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN LAWFULLY DONE. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WERE DWELLINGS THERE BEFORE. AS PART OF WALKER'S GROCERY, IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF THERE WERE DWELLINGS THERE, THEY MAY HAVE SOME CLAIMS TO THERE BEING DWELLINGS, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD ONE TO POINT TO BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE GONE THROUGH. THEY SHOULD HAVE COME THROUGH THIS, THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS, AND WE WOULD HAVE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS. BUT THE ANSWER WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR A TRIPLEX. YOU GOT TO YOU GOT TO FIND ANOTHER ZONING DISTRICT OR WE'VE GOT TO RETHINK IT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S PROPERLY PERMITTED AND DOCUMENTED AS A MULTI-FAMILY HOME. THAT WAS FROM MY RESEARCH. OF COURSE, I'LL HAVE MORE TOOLS AND KNOWLEDGE, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS LEGALLY A MULTIFAMILY HOME. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU SIR. ALL
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RIGHT. WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. AND WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK, SINCE WE'VE GOT SO MANY, I KNOW THAT MISS VIRGINIA STRICKLAND HAS SIGNED A CARD AND SHE'S DONATED HER TIME TO MISTER RICK BENTLEY. JULIA BENTLEY HAS ALSO SIGNED A CARD, AND RICK BENTLEY HAS SIGNED THE CARD. WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ASK Y'ALL IS. OR MISS BENTLEY, ARE YOU GOING TO DONATE YOUR TIME TO MISTER BENTLEY? NO, SIR. OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET ALL THIS STRAIGHTENED OUT HERE. WELL, LET'S START OFF THEN, MISTER RICKY BENTLEY. AND OF COURSE, THAT'S HE'S GOT TIME FROM VIRGINIA STRICKLAND. YES. MY NAME IS RICKY, AND I'M. I LIVE AT 129 WEST STREET, COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO ADDRESS ALCORN VILLAGE. I'M A RESIDENT OF ALCORN VILLAGE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY NO REZONING TO THE CUP. HARRIS ON HARRIS STREET AT 540 FOR A DUPLEX AT THAT AT THIS SITE, THE MINISTER FACING OF THE SINGLE FAMILY LIVING AREA. THIS WILL CAUSE POSSIBLE YEAR TO YEAR LEASING. ALSO UNWANTED POSSIBLE CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES. WITH DUPLEX BEING THERE. WE HAVE NOW ON BOTH SIDES OF SINGLE FAMILY LIVING QUARTERS AND THOSE INDIVIDUALS THERE ALSO ENJOY THE LIFESTYLE OF A SINGLE LIVING QUARTERS AND THEY PROBABLY WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE A DUPLEX PUT IN THAT AREA BECAUSE YOU GOT EVERY DAY, I MEAN, EVERY YEAR, POSSIBLY A CHANGING OF WHO'S GOING TO BE IN THAT DUPLEX AREA. ALSO, THE THE SITE HASN'T STATED ABOUT THE PARKING WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE. IT MAY AFFECT ON BOTH SIDES. I WALK AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY ABOUT THAT DUPLEX AND THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND MOST OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS AGAINST THE DUPLEX. WE NOTICED THAT FROM THE STORE. WE HAD WHAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER.WE HAD INDIVIDUALS IN THAT DUPLEX IN AND OUT. SO WE KNOW THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A CHANGE OF WHO LIVED THERE, WHO, WHO'S COMING IN. THE PROBLEM THAT MAY EXIST FROM CHANGING OF THOSE RESIDENTS. ALSO DURING THE DUPLEX, IT DON'T FIT THE FACING OF THE AREA. WE HAVE SINGLE HOMES AND THEN YOU YOU SPEAKING OF BRINGING A DUPLEX IN THAT'S GOT DOUBLE DOORS. PEOPLE'S COMING IN FROM DIFFERENT AREAS OF OFF OF EACH OF THOSE SIDES OF THE DUPLEX IN OUR AREA. WE USED TO HAVE SINGLE PARENTS, SINGLE CARS, MOMS, DAD, THE KIDS. THAT'S NEXT DOOR TO THAT DUPLEX. NOW THEY DON'T KNOW WHO MAY BE IN THERE. IN THAT AREA. I MENTIONED CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES.
IT COULD BE SOMEONE THAT'S WHO KNOWS FROM OUT OF MEMPHIS, OUT OF THE SURROUNDING AREAS.
THAT'S BAD. THEY DON'T KNOW IT. THEY HAVE THEIR CHILDREN OUT PLAYING. THEN WE THEY MAY WIND UP AND FIND OUT THAT SOMEONE IN THAT AREA MAY HAVE A SEXUAL BACKGROUND, THAT THEY IS NOT THEY ARE NOT AWARE OF. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT CONCERN THE NEIGHBORHOOD EXTREMELY. ALSO, THE ARCHITECT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IS A HISTORICALLY I HEARD HIM SAY, ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN HERE SAY THAT IT MAY NOT BE IN THE HISTORIC, BUT HE SAID HE DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT IT WAS A HISTORICAL SITE, BUT HE HE DIDN'T STATE THAT IT WAS NOT A HISTORICAL SITE. IN OUR VIEW, IT MAY BE A HISTORICAL SITE BECAUSE IT'S THE FIRST AND ONLY BLACK NEIGHBORHOOD IN THAT AREA.
SO WE SEE THAT AS A HISTORICAL SITE FOR US, THE BLACK CIVILIANS THAT LIVE THERE. AND NOW WE HAVE MORE CHANGING OF FACES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WE ACCEPT. BUT WE KNOW THOSE PEOPLE AND WE ARE WE ARE FEELING COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW. AND AND LANDLORDS.
HE STATED THAT HE MAY HAVE SOMEONE LIVE ON ONE SIDE AND THEN RENT THE OTHER SIDE. WELL, TO US, LANDLORDS COME AND GOES. SOME COME TAKE CARE OF THEIR DUPLEXES, SOME DON'T. SOME MAY
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COME EVERY MONTH, SOME MAY COME EVERY YEAR. WE DON'T KNOW. THAT'S THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ARE AGAINST DUPLEX IN THAT AREA. THE DUPLEX THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET. I CAN RECALL WHEN IT WAS BUILT, IT WAS BUILT THERE WHEN THE TIME THEY BUILT. WOOD FERN AVENUE, THOSE PEOPLE KNEW THE PEOPLE THAT MOVED THERE, BECAUSE THOSE WERE SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT CAME FROM SOME OF THEIR RESIDENTS, THAT WAS OVER ON THEIR WESTERN SIDE OF COLLIERVILLE, OFF OF HALEY ROAD. WE STILL KNEW THOSE PEOPLE. WE FELT COMFORTABLE WITH THEM BEING AROUND US. WE SAY NO TO THE DUPLEX, FIND ANOTHER SITE. ALCORN SUBDIVISION IS NOT THE AREA FOR US. THANK YOU, MR. BENTON. I WANT TO KNOW. I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT REAL QUICK. NO, MR. BENTLEY, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. I WANT TO IF YOU WOULD STAND. I'VE GOT A QUICK QUESTION, BECAUSE I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING IN MY OWN MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD. MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT I THOUGHT THAT THE THE CONCEPT WAS TO BUILD THIS IN EACH DUPLEX OR EACH SIDE WAS FOR SALE. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THAT, BUT OKAY.OKAY. SO SO YOU MIGHT IN FACT RENT. YOU MIGHT IN FACT BE IN A RENTAL MARKET. I EITHER OWN IT PERSONALLY AND LIVE OCCUPY ONE SIDE OF IT OR WILL SELL THE ENTIRE THING. I WILL NOT RENT OUT BOTH SIDES. OKAY, SO IT'S EITHER. THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT FOR ME, MISS JULIA BENTLEY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JULIA BENTLEY AND MY ADDRESS IS 129 WEST STREET. AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF THE ALCORN SUBDIVISION FOR ABOUT 40 YEARS NOW. I'VE RAISED MY FAMILY THERE, AND I HAVE GRANDCHILDREN THAT COME THERE AND VISIT US ON A REGULAR BASIS.
BUT I'M HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THE APPROVAL OF A CUP OR CONSOLIDATED USE OF PERMIT. I JUST DON'T THINK THAT A DUPLEX WILL FIT IN THIS AREA. IT KIND OF DEFACES THE VALUE OF THE HOMES THAT ARE ALREADY THERE. IT'LL BE A NICE NEW HOUSING, I'M SURE, BUT IT JUST WON'T FIT THERE. IT'LL BE LIKE A SORE THUMB THAT STICKS OUT. AND I KNOW THAT THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED ABOUT THE MULTI-USE BUILDING THAT'S NOT FAR FROM THERE. THAT PARTICULAR BUILDING WAS GRANDFATHERED INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD. I DON'T KNOW HOW TRUE THAT IS, BUT THAT WAS A STATEMENT WHEN I LOOKED UP THE INFORMATION. AND WE ALREADY KNOW THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT BUILDING, PEOPLE ARE HANGING OUT THE DOORS. IT'S IN AND OUT. THEY MAY HAVE SOMEBODY IN THERE FOR THREE MONTHS, SIX MONTHS. I MEAN, IT'S JUST A SWINGING DOOR WHERE PEOPLE ARE IN AND OUT, AND THAT'S JUST THE KIND OF PEOPLE USUALLY THAT SOMETHING LIKE A DUPLEX ATTRACT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT WILL BE VERY APPEALING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AT THIS TIME. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD I ALSO TALK TO, AND THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY I DO ABOUT BRINGING A DUPLEX. WE'RE NOT IN ANY WAY OPPOSED TO BRINGING A SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO THAT AREA, BUT I BELIEVE A DUPLEX WILL BE OUT OF ORDER IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT THAT WAY. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A NICE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WHERE WE HAVE ONE FAMILY THAT COMES IN AND THEY START TO BECOME PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ALL GET ALONG AND DO WHAT NEIGHBORS DO, BUT IF WE BRING IN A DUPLEX, WHO KNOWS WHO OUR NEIGHBORS WILL BE? WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ONE NEIGHBOR ONE WEEK AND ANOTHER NEIGHBOR NEXT WEEK. SO I'M ASKING YOU, PLEASE OPPOSE THIS APPROVAL FOR THIS CUP OR CONSOLIDATED UNIT PERMIT. I JUST DON'T BELIEVE IT'S THE RIGHT PLACE. AND AGAIN, AS HE STATED IN THE 2040 PLAN, THAT IS NOT PART OF THE 2040. SO SINCE WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOWN THE ROAD, WHY WOULD WE APPROVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS TONIGHT? IT REALLY DOES NOT BELONG IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, ESPECIALLY ONE THAT'S A SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD ALREADY. AND I THINK IT SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE THAT WAY. AND I HOPE THAT AS A BOARD THAT YOU WILL LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE THINK WOULD BE APPROPRIATE IN OUR AREA. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, MISS BENTLEY. JODY LUCAS. OH, OH, THAT WAS THE ONE LADY WITH KIDS. SHE MAY BE ELSE. OKAY, WELL, WE'LL COME BACK. ANNETTE KING. MY NAME IS
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ANNETTE KEY AND I LIVE AT 549 HARRIS ESTATE DRIVE, COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE. I ECHO THE SENTIMENTS OF THE BENTLEY'S AND REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH OF OTHER TO SAY, BUT WE REALIZE THAT THIS PROPERTY IN THIS CURRENT STATE IS AN EYESORE AND SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. SO WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR OF IT BEING DEMOLISHED AND SOMETHING BEING PLACED THERE THAT WOULD BE MORE APPEALING. THIS IS A PEACEFUL NEIGHBORHOOD, WITH THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES BEING FAMILY OWNED AND OCCUPIED. WE REALIZE THAT THERE ARE SOME RENTAL PROPERTIES AND A MULTIFAMILY UNIT IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY, BUT IT IS OUR HOPE THAT A NICE SINGLE FAMILY HOME BE BUILT ON THIS SITE. TO ME, DUPLEX MEANS RENTAL, AND WITH RENTAL, OUR EXPERIENCES BEING THAT HAS CAUSED NOTHING BUT PROBLEMS AND MOST OF THE RENTAL HOMES IN OUR AREA. THAT TRIPLEX DOWN AT 191 REST ROAD HAS HAD SOME QUESTIONABLE TENANTS, TENANTS IN AND OUT, AS WAS STATED BEFORE, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO AVOID SIMILAR ISSUES IF POSSIBLE WITH LIMITING OCCUPANCY OF THIS LOT TO A SINGLE, HOPEFULLY PEACE LOVING FAMILY AND THOSE WHEN THEY SPOKE ABOUT THE OTHER LOTS BEING SMALLER AND CRAMPED, THOSE LOTS WOULD BE AT LEAST 20 YEARS PRIOR TO THE HOMES IN THE NEWER PART OF THE SUBDIVISION ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE STREET.THAT'S WHY THEY ARE ALL CRAMPED LIKE THAT. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CONSISTENCY IN JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH A NICE LOT SIZE, A NICE BACKYARD, FRONT YARD AND SIDE YARDS. SO WE ASK THAT YOU NOT USE THIS. NOT CONSIDER REZONING THIS WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS KEY HAROLD SMITH. HI, I'M HAROLD SMITH, MY PROPERTY IS MY HOME IS 570 HARRIS STREET. THAT'S ON THE CORNER OF HARRIS AND WEST. THE. WHAT WAS GEORGE WALKER STORE FRONT FACE MY PROPERTY. MY PROPERTY FACES SAINT JAMES CHURCH. I ALSO HAVE A HOME AT 4480 FLEMING ROAD. AND SO I'LL GO BACK TO 570. I WAS AT HOME. MY HOME WAS BUILT IN 1963. I WAS BORN JANUARY OF 64, RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE WALMART HERE. WHAT USED TO BE THE SHELBY EAST CLINIC. SO I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF COLLIERVILLE. I AM I AM VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO THE AS IT WAS STATED TRIPLEX. I THINK IT HAS FOUR DOORS ACTUALLY. THAT'S ON THE ON THE AT 191 WEST STREET. I'M AGAINST THAT. I'M AGAINST IT NOW AND AND AND WHENEVER IT WAS CHANGED TO THAT I'M STILL AGAINST IT. I KNOW HOW BAD THAT IS. THE PEOPLE HAVE THEIR GARBAGES WHERE CAN THEY PUT THEM? THERE'S NO PLACE FOR ALL OF THAT. IT HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT A NUISANCE TO ME AS AS IT PERTAINS TO MY PROPERTY, AND I PLAN TO ACTUALLY UPGRADE MY PROPERTY IN 26. THAT PROPERTY THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING AT 544 HARRIS STREET. AND LET ME SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THE LOT. SO MY LOT IS ONE OF THE LARGER ONES, THE LOT NEXT TO ME GOING EAST IS ONE OF THE LARGER ONES. THE LOT NEXT TO IT IS ONE OF THE LARGER ONES ON HARRIS, AND THEN THIS LOT AND THEN THE THE LOT AFTER IT ARE ONE OF THE LARGER ONES. WHEN THE GENTLEMAN WAS REFERRING TO THE LOTS ACROSS THE STREET, THAT'S PART OF WHAT WAS HARRIS ESTATE THAT WAS BUILT IN 1971. MY GRANDMOTHER LIVED OVER THERE AND MY AUNT STILL LIVES THERE.
I STILL HAVE FAMILY OVER THERE. I HAVE COUSINS THAT LIVE RIGHT THERE AT THE ENTRANCE OF NIKKI MCCRAY PARK. WE DO NOT. WE KNOW WHAT DUPLEXES WOULD ENTAIL. IT WOULD ENTAIL RENTERS. AND EVEN IF THERE WAS A OWNER THAT THAT THAT HAD RENTERS ON THE OTHER SIDE WAS TO PROHIBIT THAT OWNER FROM LEAVING IN A YEAR OR THREE YEARS AND HAVING TWO RENTERS THERE. RENTERS INVITE PROBLEMS
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FOR THE FIRST TIME. AND THAT IN MY RESIDENCY I HAVE I HAVE TWO GATES AND I HAVE A REAR DOUBLE GATE. I HAD TO PUT A LOCK WITH WIRE, CABLE AND NO TRESPASSING SIGNS BECAUSE KIDS FROM RENTAL PROPERTIES WERE WALKING THROUGH, TAKING MY STAKE OUT THAT HELD THE GATES TOGETHER. IT WAS A CONTINUOUS PROBLEM, CONTINUOUS NUISANCE. I, I DID SOMEBODY YIELD THREE OF THEIR MINUTES ON THE BOTTOM OF MY CAR, MISS MCRAE, I JUST HAVE YOUR CARD. MANY. OH, YES. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE MANY. MISS MCRAE HAS YIELDED YOUR TIME. HER TIME TO YOU, AND I APOLOGIZE. THAT WAS COVERED UP BY ANOTHER BLUE CARD. IT'S OKAY. BECAUSE I WANT YOU. I WANT THE FULL OTHER THREE MINUTES TO TELL YOU THE SAME THING, WHICH IS WE KNOW WHAT RENTING AND RENTERS BRING.THERE'S NO STAKE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE ALL HAVE A STAKE IN THE COMMUNITY. WE WANT OUR COMMUNITY TO STAY JUST AS ANYONE ELSE IN COLLIERVILLE WOULD WANT. SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING MEANS A STAKE IN THE COMMUNITY. IT GENERALLY MEANS GOOD NEIGHBORS. IT DOESN'T GUARANTEE IT. BUT WHEN YOU HAVE RENTERS, IT ALMOST GUARANTEES PROBLEMS. AND WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT ANY MORE ISSUES WE'RE ALREADY GOING TO HAVE DEALING WITH THE BATTLE WE'RE DEALING WITH ON HIGHWAY 72, WITH THE FORTH COMING PLAN OF A BUS DEPOT. WITH OUR INDUSTRIAL, WE HAVE INDUSTRIAL STUFF ALL AROUND US. WE GOT AN OLD, ABANDONED, MAYBE EVEN SUPERFUND SITE RIGHT ACROSS THE TRACKS ON THE NORTH SIDE OF ROLETTE THERE WITH THE OLD PIPER BROTHERS FACILITY. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THAT AT SOME POINT. WE DON'T WANT THE DEGRADATION OF OUR COMMUNITY. I WE'RE VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO IT. WE WANT THAT 191 WEST POPLAR. WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT. IT'S THERE'S THERE'S VARMINTS. MY GET THE REASON THE OTHER REASON I HAD TO PUT A LOCK AND WIRE ON MY GATES IS BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE MY GATES WERE OPEN ALL THE TIME. PEOPLE, I GUESS, NEEDED WATER FOR WHATEVER REASONS. AND IT'S A PROBLEM. AND SO AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HANDLE IT IN THE WRONG WAY. WE JUST DON'T WANT EXTRA PROBLEMS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S A QUIET, GREAT COMMUNITY. WE GOT A PARK.
WE LOVE NEIGHBORS. WE ALL GET ALONG. WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS. IF MISS MCRAE OR ANY ONE SAYS, HEY, DO THIS, DO THAT, WE DO IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S FAMILY, NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. YOU DON'T WANT IT IN YOUR AREA. YOU DO NOT WANT THAT VOTE YOUR VOTE IN YOUR AREA TO BE A YES. SO VOTE TO VOTE US THE SAME WAY. I HAVE TWO PROPERTIES IN COLLIERVILLE. PAY TAXES ON BOTH OF THEM AND SHUT IT DOWN. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. SMITH.
RILEY. FOWLER. HI, MY NAME IS RILEY FOWLER. I OWN THE PROPERTY AT 518 HARRIS STREET.
AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SAY THAT I DISAGREE WITH THE DUPLEX GOING IN AT THE 544 HARRIS.
I'VE OWNED DUPLEXES IN CAIRO. I OWNED A DUPLEX NORTH OF POPLAR, AND IT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. AS YOU SEE, I'VE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS, LIKE THE LADY WHO WAS UP HERE A FEW MINUTES AGO. AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HATE TO SEE THEIR PROPERTIES ALSO BE NEGATIVELY IMPACTED. THANK YOU SIR. IT'S DIFFERENT. I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO JODY LUCAS. IS THAT MISS LUCAS? YES. THIS WAY. OKAY. ON FRONT ROAD. I'LL DO MY BEST TO GET INTO IT. OKAY. WELL. RIGHT HERE TODAY. THAT'S FINE. BY.
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OKAY. JODY LUCAS, 540 HARRIS ESTATE. DRIVE TO THE MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, TO OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS, TO MEMBERS OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES IN THIS TOWN. GRACE AND PEACE TO YOU ALL FROM THE ONE AND TRUE LIVING GOD. I'M GOING TO ASK IF THERE IS ANY TIME THAT WAS YIELDED OR NOT USED IF I COULD HAVE IT, BUT I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH MY COMMENTS IN RELATION TO THE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD PLACE TYPE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PLANNING COMMISSION EXPLORE A CIVIC AND INSTITUTIONAL USE FOR THIS PROPERTY. SINCE OUR PROPERTIES ARE NOT CONSIDERED TO HAVE HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE SOMETHING CALLED HISTORICALLY BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES. AS I HEARD YOU MENTIONED THE GEORGE T WALKER GROCERY STORE. WE ALSO HAVE THE THE GEORGE WALKER BRIDGE IN THAT AREA. I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE NEED SOMETHING MORE INCLUSIVE AND EXPANSIVE, SO THAT WE ARE NOT CONTINUALLY FORGOTTEN IN THE URBANIZATION OF OUR TOWN, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RECENT PROPOSED, THE RECENT DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED THAT IS LOCATED SOUTH OF HARRIS STREET AND WEST OF US 72. SIT DOWN, SIT DOWN, AND THE WEST OF US 72. CAN I PAUSE MY TIME, PLEASE? OKAY. AS WE KNOW IT WAS PROPOSED TO REZONE GENERAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FROM WELL TO REZONE GENERAL COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO RESIDENTIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL INDUSTRIAL IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO IMPLEMENT THE TECHNOLOGY AND EMPLOYMENT CENTER PLACE TYPE BECAUSE IT INCLUDES RESEARCH FACILITIES, OFFICE AND WAREHOUSE AND FLEX SPACE AND ETCETERA. JUST IN LIEU OF THESE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS AND TALK ABOUT AFFORDABILITY, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO SEE AN AI SUPERCOMPUTER SLID INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.RESEARCH DOES NEED TO GO ON, BUT THIS IS WHY I'M SUGGESTING THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER CIVIC AND INSTITUTIONAL USE FOR THIS LAND. IT HAS BEEN NOTED THAT THE DUPLEX IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE 2040 PLAN FOR THIS AREA, AND THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO. CAN YOU PAUSE MY TIME AGAIN? EXCUSE ME, MA'AM, I WOULD I IT'S VERY DISTRACTING FOR THE FOLKS ON THE COMMISSION. WE'D LIKE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS, BUT STOPPING AND STARTING IS CAUSING A PROBLEM. COULD YOU PLEASE, MA'AM, WOULD YOU PLEASE CONTINUE? GIVE ME ONE SECOND, BECAUSE IT'S HARD FOR YOU ALL TO HEAR ME WITH THEM CONSTANTLY TALKING. EXCUSE ME. SIT DOWN AND DO NOT GET BACK UP. SIT DOWN AND PLAY WITH YOUR TABLET.
OR YOU CAN GO TO YOUR NEXT SIT DOWN. AND SIT DOWN, PLEASE. OR IF SOMEONE COULD TAKE THEM OUT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO. KNOW. THAT'S FINE. OKAY. YEAH, I KNOW. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THE CURRENT LIKE THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW DUPLEX ON THE PROPERTY AND THE.
THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER, MISS CHARLOTTE TATE. I THINK THAT SHE DESERVES TO BE RECOGNIZED AS SHE HAS BEEN TAKEN, THAT SHE'S TAKING ON THE BURDEN AND RESPONSIBILITY TO ADHERE TO THE INTENT OF THE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORHOOD, LAND USE AND CORALVILLE. THAT DESERVES TO BE RECOGNIZED BECAUSE IN ADDITION TO EXPERIENCING THE TRAUMA OF HER FAMILY HOME CATCHING ON FIRE, HER FAMILY HAD TO ACTIVELY SEEK SHELTER TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AFTERWARDS.
AND ALSO SINCE THEN, HER SPOUSE HAS PASSED. AND ON TOP OF THAT, THEY'VE HAD TO GO BACK AND FORTH TO COURT AND DEAL WITH CODE INSPECTORS AND ALL OF THAT. SO CONSIDERING THAT SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO HAVE IT TORN DOWN, IF THAT DOESN'T SPEAK TO THE CARE THAT SHE HAS ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT DOES. AND AGAIN, I ASKED IF THERE'S ANY EXTRA TIME THAT SOMEONE DID NOT USE. IF I COULD HAVE 2 OR 3 OF THOSE MINUTES. THERE'S NOT MA'AM, WE DON'T HAVE PROVISION FOR THAT. NO ONE HAS DONATED TIME. OKAY. I THOUGHT THE LAST GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE DIDN'T USE ALL OF HIS TIME. MA'AM, YOU GET A DESIGNATED AMOUNT OF TIME.
EVERYBODY THAT COMES TO SPEAK GETS THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME, OKAY? SOMEONE DONATES IT TO THEM. AND THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE IN THIS CASE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. OKAY, WELL THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO BE INCLUDED IN ANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, AS YOU ALL ARE
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REDEVELOPING THE 2040 PLAN. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. YES, MA'AM. COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE NO FURTHER CARDS, SO I WILL I CAME HERE, I'M SORRY, MA'AM, I DIDN'T GET THE CARD, BUT MAKE SURE. BUT IF YOU'LL GET IT UP HERE, WE'LL. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND. SO. ALL RIGHT, MA'AM, IF YOU WOULD STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. AND WHAT'S YOUR. I WASN'T PREPARED TO SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY. SINCE YOU NEED TO GIVE MY NAME. MY NAME IS WENDY BANKS, AND MY PROPERTY IS AT 560 BERKMAN DRIVE IN COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE. I GREW UP IN COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE, GRADUATED FROM COLLIERVILLE HIGH IN 1976. I KNOW I DON'T LOOK IT, BUT I DID. AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO START OFF WITH IS THE SERENITY PRAYER, AND THAT IS GOD. GRANT ME THE SERENITY TO ACCEPT THOSE THINGS I CANNOT CHANGE, AND THE COURAGE TO CHANGE THOSE THINGS THAT I CAN, AND THE WISDOM TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I CAME HERE WITH A VERY OPEN MIND, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO JUST SAY, I DON'T WANT A DUPLEX IN THE AREA. AND WHEN I LOOK AT IT, IT IS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL.I LIKE THE SUGGESTION THAT MR. GIBBONS MADE ABOUT DOING TWO PROPERTIES, TWO PROPERTIES AT THE AREA, TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THERE. THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA. AND I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THESE PICTURES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT LOOKS AS THOUGH THERE IS A SOMEWHAT OF A APATHETIC ATTITUDE. BUT THERE'S THERE'S NOT THERE'S A LOT OF RENTAL PROPERTY THERE. AND THE ONE THAT YOU DEFINITELY SPOKE ABOUT, THE 190 WEST ROAD, WE DO FEEL THAT THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT IS ILLEGAL. I DON'T SEE HOW IT COULD BE LEGAL WHERE YOU'VE GOT FOUR PROPERTIES, AND WHEN YOU STEP OUT OF A DOOR, THERE IS YOU STEP RIGHT ONTO THE STREET. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PART OF THAT. THAT BEING SAID, I, I AM OPPOSED TO THE DUPLEX BEING THERE, BUT BUT YES, TO SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS. I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING. AND I TOO PLAN TO PUT MONEY IN UPGRADING MY PARTICULAR HOME WHERE, WHERE I AM. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, I JUST THINK ALL OF YOU FOR LISTENING AND ALLOWING US TIME TO COME IN. MY FATHER WORKED HARD TO BUY THE HOME THAT HE BOUGHT, AND WE GREW UP IN A HOME WITH A LOT OF LOVE IN COLLIERVILLE. AND FOR SOME REASON, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT YOU, I FEEL THAT AT FIRST I THOUGHT, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WOULD BE TREATED FAIRLY, BUT FOR SOME REASON I GET A GOOD FEELING AS THOUGH WE WILL BE TREATED FAIRLY. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M FEELING A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH. I WILL SAY THIS JUST LIKE I THINK ABOUT PEOPLE GOING TO NURSING SCHOOL, I GIVE AN EXAMPLE. YOU CAN HAVE STRAIGHT A'S, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN BE ACADEMICALLY QUALIFIED. BUT TO HAVE THE HEART TO DO THE RIGHT THING. AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES YOU QUALIFIED. AND LOOKING AT YOU, I FEEL THAT YOU DO. AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, MISS BANKS. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, WE HAVE FINISHED THE BLUE CARDS AND CITIZEN COMMENTS. SO I WILL CALL FOR A MOTION. WE GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT. SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION. JUST GET IT ON THE FLOOR FOR DISCUSSION. RECOMMEND APPROVAL. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A DUPLEX ON 0.33 ACRES LOCATED AT 544 HARRIS STREET, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. SECOND.
ALL RIGHT. COMMENTS. COMMISSIONERS. LET'S DISCUSS. CAN I SAY SOMETHING FIRST, PLEASE? YES. CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YES. YOU KNOW WHAT'S I'M SORRY. WHAT'S BEFORE YOU IS A LAND USE MATTER. AND PART OF YOUR STAFF REPORT SETS FORTH A CRITERIA FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. AND SO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS TO APPLY THOSE CRITERIA TO THE PROOF THAT'S BEEN PUT
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BEFORE YOU. AND I'LL JUST SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IN THE CRITERIA IS THE IMPACT ON THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY. AND I THINK YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF PROOF ABOUT THAT. BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE FUTURE OCCUPANTS OF THE PROPERTY IS NOT GERMANE TO YOUR CONSIDERATION. PEOPLE CAN RENT THEIR PROPERTY, PEOPLE CAN OWN THEIR PROPERTY AND OCCUPY IT THEMSELVES. THEY CAN RENT IT TO. WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT, AND IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO FOR YOU TO CONCERN YOURSELF WITH WHO THE FUTURE OCCUPANTS ARE, THEIR CHARACTERISTICS, WHETHER THEY'RE RENTERS OR OWNERS. YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THESE FACTORS AND LISTEN TO THE PROOF AND APPLY THESE FACTORS TO THAT PROOF, BUT NOT CONSIDER THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE FUTURE OCCUPANTS. THANK YOU. NATHAN, DO I HEAR A DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS. CAN WE GET THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE. JAMIE'S BACKUP? CAN I COME BACK UP? I THINK THAT WAS A RECOMMENDATION. YEAH. THERE YOU GO. STAFF RECOMMENDATION. THERE YOU GO. OKAY. SO SO STAFF RECOMMENDS NOT APPROVING. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. AND THEY SAY THEY BECAUSE AND THEY GIVE YOU THE REASONS NOT CONSISTENT WITH POLICY. THE 2040 LAND USE PLAN AND EXCEEDING MAXIMUM GROSS RESIDENTIAL DWELLING DENSITY PER ACRE. OKAY, SO, JAMIE, I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT THAT POSSIBILITY, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF A CONTINUAL DISCUSSION WITH THE OWNER ABOUT WHAT CAN FIT MAY FIT ON THAT PROPERTY IF THEY WISH TO DO THAT, I THINK. SO, I THINK WE'VE HEARD SOME, SOME IDEAS TONIGHT, WHETHER IT'S SINGLE FAMILY AND WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT WE COULDN'T FIGURE OUT A CURRENT ZONING TOOL THAT WE'VE GOT. SO THAT MIGHT MEAN AND I'LL GO BACK TO THE THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, THAT IT MIGHT COME OUT OF THAT PLAN THAT WE NEED BETTER TOOLS TO ALLOW FOR NEIGHBORHOODS TO TO TRANSITION AND STABILIZE AND TO REDEVELOP, BUT WITHIN CHARACTER AND NOT NOT NOT MESSING UP THE CHARACTER THAT'S THERE. BUT THOSE TOOLS WON'T BE QUICK TO DEVELOP. IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A COUPLE OF YEARS TO WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS. BUT I DO I DO THINK WE WE HEARD SOME IDEAS TONIGHT THAT, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER ABOUT. SO GO AHEAD. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE I AM CLEAR AND UNDERSTANDING AS FAR AS WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH THE PROPERTY. IF I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL 100FT THAT YOU WOULD NEED FOR FOR TWO DIFFERENT LOTS. BUT IF THAT WERE I MEAN, IS THERE A POSSIBILITY NOW FOR THE APPLICANT TO APPLY FOR A REZONING FOR THAT LOT, OR WOULD IT HAVE TO BE THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD, OR IS THERE A IS THERE A POSSIBLE SOLUTION THAT COULD COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD FOR A REZONING THAT WOULD ALLOW TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THAT LOT? THEY COULD ASK FOR A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS A VERY, VERY COMPLEX TOOL. IT'S NOT A QUICK PROCESS, AND THEY COULD ASK FOR WAIVERS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE LOT SIZES, LESS LOT WIDTHS LESS THAN 50FT. THAT'S A LOT OF PROCESS FOR FOR TWO, TWO LOTS. BUT THAT THAT IS POSSIBLE THAT THAT COULD HAPPEN. AND I WILL TELL YOU A QUICK STORY ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN PLAN.IN 2010, WE REALIZED THAT THAT WE WANTED TO SEE MORE HOUSES AROUND THE TOWN SQUARE. AND PDES WERE COMPLICATED AND EXPENSIVE TO DO AND RISKY. AND WE CAME UP WITH NEW ZONING TOOLS THAT ESSENTIALLY ALLOWED ALMOST BY, BY. RIGHT. AND AND SOME OF Y'ALL LIVING UP HERE LIVE IN THOSE, THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT, THAT WERE CREATED WITH THAT, THAT ZONING DISTRICT. AND WE HAVEN'T SEEN A SINGLE PLAN DEVELOPMENT CREATED BECAUSE I THINK WE GOT THE ZONING, MAYBE NOT PERFECT, BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD DO BETTER. BUT IT WAS ENOUGH WHERE WE WERE MADE IT EASIER TO DO THE RIGHT THING. AND THAT AND I THINK WE COULD DO THAT IN THIS SITUATION. BUT IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME THOUGHT AND WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD REALLY, REALLY WANTS. AND, AND THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS GOING TO HELP US WITH THAT. RIGHT. OKAY. AND I MAY MENTION SOMETHING REAL QUICK. SOMETHING CAME OUT IN THE TESTIMONY ABOUT HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE, SIGNIFICANCE OF THE THE NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS THE STRUCTURE. IT'S THE STRUCTURE THAT I WAS SPEAKING TO. THE STRUCTURE DOES NOT HAVE HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE. I DO BELIEVE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD BE STUDIED FURTHER, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT IT HAS A ROLE IN HISTORY. IN THE TOWN OF COLLIERVILLE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF UPDATING OUR NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT WITH THE HISTORIC COMMISSION OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, AND WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT NOT JUST HISTORIC DISTRICT
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PROPER, BUT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE SQUARE TO SEE IF THEY'RE ELIGIBLE. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT OUT THERE THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS. THIS NEIGHBOR IS NOT HISTORIC. I BELIEVE IT IS HISTORIC. BUT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE THE PROCESS TO TO STUDY IT A LITTLE BIT MORE BEFORE WE CAN DECLARE IT AS A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LIKE LIKE WE DID THE REST OF THE TOWN. OTHER COMMENTS. COMMISSIONERS. ALL RIGHT.HEARING NONE. ANGELA, CALL THE ROLL. FLETCHER. NO. GIVEN. NO. DUBOSE STAMPS. I JUST LIKE TO MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE RESIDENTS WHO CAME OUT TO TALK AND EXPRESS THEIR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS. THE PRIDE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I LIKE TO SEE THAT, REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. I THINK THEY MADE SOME GREAT POINTS. I JUST CAN'T SEE DOESN'T FIT IN THE 2040 PLAN. IT'S NOT IN CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THE 2050 PLAN, THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN WE'RE STILL IN WORKS ON ALL THAT. I THINK THERE'S FURTHER STUDY IF IT WAS TO BE SEPARATED OR SOMETHING TO MAKE AN UPGRADE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO AND THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS THAT WERE PUT FORTH. SO WITH THAT ALL BEING SAID, I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS. SO I'D SAY NO. GREEN, NO GODDARD. I CAN SAY JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS TO I FEEL BAD FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER HAVING GONE THROUGH A FIRE, NOT HAVING A PLACE TO GO, HAVING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT PROPERTY, NOT BEING ABLE TO DO A SINGLE FAMILY HOME BASED ON THE AFFORDABILITY. SO I FEEL BAD ABOUT MY VOTE BECAUSE I'M VOTING NO AS WELL, BUT I JUST I JUST HOPE THAT THERE CAN BE SOMETHING DONE HERE THAT WOULD SPEED UP A PROCESS, RATHER THAN WAITING 18 MONTHS FOR A 2050 PLAN TO COME OUT FOR THEM TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEIR PROPERTY. OKAY. SLED, NO. COTTON? NO. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONERS, OUR NEXT ITEM OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS. ITEM 8D2345. CASE NUMBER 234581. AND I BELIEVE JAMIE YOU'RE
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GOING TO MAKE THAT PRESENTATION ALSO. THAT'S CORRECT. THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO CONSIDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A NEW FREESTANDING CELL TOWER, A MACRO CELL TOWER AT THE CASTLE HILL HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS. THE APPLICANT IS TOWNSHIP DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.GRAYSON VAUGHAN REPRESENTS THEM, AND HE IS HERE ON BEHALF OF TOWER VENTURES. AND THAT'S THE PERSON OR THE ENTITY THAT WILL HOLD THE LEASE. COLLIERVILLE SCHOOLS IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND THOMAS DOHERTY IS THEIR PROPERTY MANAGER. THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, IT WOULD BE ABOUT 140 FOOT TALL. WIRELESS COMMUNICATION FACILITY OR A MACRO TOWER CELL TOWER WITH A MONO PINE DESIGN, AND SO IT'LL LOOK LIKE A PINE TREE, AND WE CALL THAT A STEALTH DESIGN. SOMETIMES THE LOCATION IS AT THE NORTH WEST CORNER OR EXCUSE ME, THE NORTH EAST CORNER OF THE CARTERVILLE HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS. AND IT'S BETWEEN SHELBY DRIVE AND THE FOOTBALL FIELD. A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE ZONING. THE ZONING OF THE HIGH SCHOOL WAS R1 LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. IT'S SURROUNDED BY OTHER R1, R2 MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND FA FOREST AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL. THE TOWER, THEY THEY PROVIDED US A LOT OF INFORMATION. AND WE EVEN HAD A CONSULTANT THAT WE HIRED. THE APPLICANT HELPED US PAY PAY FOR THAT. WE HAD KIMLEY-HORN TO BE A NEUTRAL THIRD PARTY CONSULTANT, AND THEY REVIEWED THE APPLICATION AND INCLUDING SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS THAT YOU SEE HERE, THE TOWER VENTURE PROVIDED. SO THEY GAVE US SOME PHOTO SIMULATIONS SHOWING HOW THE, THE, THE, THE MONO PINE WOULD LOOK FROM VARIOUS STANDPOINTS. THE BOTTOM RIGHT PICTURE IS PRETTY MUCH FROM THE ENTRANCE, THE THE EASTERNMOST ENTRANCE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL, RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE NEW NEW FIRE HALL. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM 385 AS YOU'RE GOING EASTBOUND. THERE ARE EXISTING TREES THERE, BUT THE THE THE TREES ARE NOT 140FT TALL AND THEY WON'T BE 140FT TALL JUST BECAUSE OF HOW TREES GROW IN OUR REGION. SO IT'S GOING TO IT WILL STICK UP OVER OVER THE TREES. BUT YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE SIMULATIONS ABOUT HOW HOW IT WILL LOOK FROM THE COLLIERVILLE CAMPUS, OUR TOWN GIS STAFF, WE HAVE SOME SOFTWARE WHERE WE WE DID OUR OWN SIMULATION TO SEE WHERE YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE 140 FOOT TOWER, AND WHERE YOU SEE IN ORANGE ON THIS MAP IS WHERE WE
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BELIEVE THAT YOU COULD SEE THE TOWER. SO A LOT FROM THE CAMPUS ALONG SOME ROADWAYS, BUT IT'S LARGELY NOT GOING TO BE VISIBLE FROM SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. AND BECAUSE IT IS A RESIDENT RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTY, IT'S AN INSTITUTIONAL USE. OUR REGULATIONS DO REQUIRE A STEALTH TYPE DESIGN, AND THAT'S WHY THEY CHOSE THE MONO PINE. THERE ARE OTHER TYPES OF DESIGNS LIKE THAT THAT ARE EXIST THAT EXIST. SOMETIMES PEOPLE WILL DO A TOWER OR A TOWER THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT'S A FLAGPOLE. IT'S A IT'S A ESSENTIALLY LIKE A REALLY WIDE FLAGPOLE. IT'S AS TALL AS, LIKE YOU MIGHT SEE AT LANDERS FORD OR SUNRISE AND, AND WITH, WITH THE FLAG ON IT. BUT THEY CHOSE A PINE DESIGN. AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THOSE IN TOWN. YOU CAN SEE THE ZONING PATTERNS IN THE AREA ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, MOST MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL. AND THERE ARE SOME AND YOU CAN SEE THE TREE COVER. THERE'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE TREE COVER ON THE CAMPUS, THE HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS THAT HELPS SCREEN THE THE TOWER FROM CERTAIN VANTAGE POINTS AND ALONG THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST AS WELL. THERE'S A CARTWRIGHT NURSERY, THE SOME OF THE LAST PARTS OF CARTWRIGHT NURSERY ARE TO THE TO THE EAST, AND THAT IS ZONED R2, MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. SO WE MIGHT SEE THAT DEVELOPED AS HOUSING ONE DAY. IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT THERE ON THAT PROPERTY TO THE EAST, IT'S A LOW POINT. THERE'S A CREEK, A CREEK THAT GOES INTO NONCONNAH CREEK, AND THERE'S SOME BUFFERS THAT WILL BE REQUIRED. AND IT'S BEING THE LOW POINT IS PROBABLY WHERE DETENTION WILL GO, AND THERE PROBABLY WON'T BE ANY HOUSES, RIGHT, RIGHT UP AGAINST THE THE PROPERTY LINE THERE. YOU CAN SEE THE LAYOUT HERE THAT THEY WON'T HAVE A DRIVEWAY TO SHELBY DRIVE. THEY'LL HAVE A DRIVE THAT WILL COME OFF THE THE COLLIERVILLE HIGH PRIVATE DRIVE INTERIOR TO THE SITE, AND THEY'LL HAVE A FENCED ENCLOSURE AROUND THE PROPERTY. THEY'LL HAVE WITHIN THE LEASE AREA. THE TOWER SHOULD BE ABLE TO COLLAPSE WITHIN ITSELF ONTO THE PROPERTY. THERE IS A REGULATION THAT SAYS THAT WHEN YOU'RE ADJACENT TO A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, EITHER EXISTING OR FUTURE, THAT THE TOWER HAS TO HAVE A CERTAIN SETBACK. AND FOR 140 FOOT TOWER, IT WOULD NEED ABOUT A 420 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE NEAREST HOME. AND BASED ON THAT, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS PROVIDED WHEN THE PROPERTY TO THE EAST WAS REZONED. AND KNOWING THAT IT'S A LOW POINT, WE THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO BE OVER 650FT FROM THE FROM THE TOWER TO THE, TO THE FIRST HOME. SO WE THINK THE INTENT OF THAT REGULATION IS GOING TO BE MET. AND THE AND THE BOARD DOES HAVE THAT DISCRETION TO LOOK AT ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AND CONSTRAINTS ON AN ADJACENT PROPERTY WHEN THEY CONSIDER THE PROXIMITY OF A TOWER TO A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING. SO REALLY, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST ISSUE. THE CONSULTANT KIMLEY-HORN RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH WITH CONDITIONS. STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS. THE APPLICANT AGREES WITH THE CONDITIONS. THERE WERE THERE WAS EVEN SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THEY'VE GIVEN US SINCE THE PACKETS BEEN RELEASED ABOUT CONDITION NINE, TO REALLY JUSTIFY THE NEED FOR THE TOWER. AND WE'VE LOOKED AT SOME OF THEIR AND KIMLEY-HORN LOOKED AT SOME OF THEIR STUDIES TO SHOW HOW CELL SERVICE WOULD BE BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER THE TOWER, AND IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR CELL, A CELL TOWER IN IN THIS AREA. SO SOME OF THE NEXT STEPS ARE THIS THIS CASE WOULD GO TO THE MAYOR AND BOARD IF YOU RECOMMEND IT. ON NOVEMBER 24TH.THEY WOULD GET PERMITS, PROBABLY AN ELECTRICAL PERMIT RATHER THAN A BUILDING PERMIT.
AFTER ALL THE CONDITIONS ARE MET, A FENCE PERMIT FOR THE ENCLOSURE. AND IF THEY EVER CHANGE THE DESIGN THAT IT GETS TALLER, OR THEY WANT TO CHANGE IT FROM A MINOR TO SOMETHING ELSE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK THROUGH THE PROCESS TO SEEK APPROVAL FOR PROPOSED MOTION IS ON THE SCREEN. I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS. I HAVE A QUESTION. JAMIE. YES? WHAT IS WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE 400 ODD SETBACK FROM A HOUSING? I THINK THE AND I DIDN'T MENTION THIS. I MENTIONED IT IN THE REPORT BUT DIDN'T IN MY MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION WHEN WE CREATED THIS IN 2009, WE COMPLETELY REDID OUR OUR CELL TOWER REGULATIONS. WE SAW SEVERAL TOWERS PROPOSED. THE TOWN WAS REALLY CONCERNED. WE SAW LOTS OF NEIGHBORS COMING OUT, CONCERNED ABOUT TOWERS PROPOSED NEXT TO THEIR HOUSE. SO I THINK THAT WAS THE BMA'S EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THE TOWERS WERE NOT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO DWELLINGS. IF THEY WERE IN MORE IN COMMERCIAL AREAS OR INSTITUTIONAL AREAS BURIED IN CHURCH STEEPLES, THINGS LIKE THAT ON TOWERS. SO JUST GETTING IT AWAY FROM NEIGHBORHOODS, TRYING TO ADDRESS CONCERNS, WHETHER IT'S VISIBILITY OR EVEN OTHER TYPES OF CONCERNS. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING AS FAR AS LIKE OTHER TYPES OF CONCERNS, I
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MEAN, IS THERE IS THERE ANY SORT OF CONCERN WITH, I MEAN, HEALTH ISSUES WITH BEING SO CLOSE TO IT, ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY HEALTH ISSUES, AND I THINK IT MIGHT BE EVEN SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN'T REGULATE AT THE LOCAL LEVEL. WELL, I'M JUST I CAN'T THINK OF IT BEING CLOSE TO CONFLICT AS WELL. I'VE GOT A CONFLICT AND I'M RECUSED FROM THE CASE. OKAY.BUT I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THE TOWNS, THE FEDERAL LAW PRECLUDED FROM CONSIDERING ANY HEALTH. SO. AND THANK YOU. SO THERE'S NO HOW FAR DO WE KNOW. IS IT FROM THE SCHOOL LIKE FROM THE SCHOOL GROUNDS WHERE THE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE? I CAN TAKE A QUICK MEASUREMENT UNLESS GRAYSON KNOWS OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD. OKAY, HERE WE GO. WE HAVE ONE THAT'S 45 YARDS FROM OUR CHURCH BUILDING NEXT TO A SOCCER FIELD. THE KIDS ARE ON ALL THE TIME. IT'S BEEN THERE FOR 15 YEARS, AND IT'S KIND OF LIKE. YEAH, SO. JUST JUST SO MY LIMITED EXPERIENCE. BUT THAT IS WHAT I GOT. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. I HAVE ONE MIGHT BE A KIND OF A PECULIAR QUESTION.
HOW DO THEY ACCESS MAINTENANCE WISE. THE 35 FOOT TO GET UP INTO THE THE TOWER TO DO MAINTENANCE? WHY DON'T WE LET GRAYSON PRESENT TALK FIRST? IT'S 1200 FEET. OKAY. ALMOST A QUARTER OF A MILE. OKAY, YEAH, IT'S A PRETTY GOOD DISTANCE. APPLICANT, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS GRAYSON VAUGHAN, 1115 HAWLEY PARK CIRCLE. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF REALLY BOTH THE SCHOOLS AND TOWER VENTURES. AND WHAT WAS YOUR QUESTION? SO YOU GOT A 35 FOOT BETWEEN YOU BEFORE YOU GET UP INTO THE BRANCHES? IS WHAT I SEE HERE? YES, SIR. MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE MAINTENANCE ACCESS TO GET UP THAT 35 FOOT? LET ME TELL YOU WHY I ASK. YOU'RE ADJACENT TO A HIGH SCHOOL. YES, SIR. YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT KIDS ACTING UP, SO I'M JUST MAKING SURE THERE'S NO. THERE'S NO STEPS OR ANYTHING THAT ARE INSIDE. THAT FENCE IS NOT OUR ONLY SAFEGUARD THAT THOSE KIDS WILL NOT GET UP IN THAT TREE. NO, SIR. NO, SIR, I I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU. I'M NOT A TOWER EXPERT. BUT. NO, SIR. I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THEY'VE BEEN WORRIED ABOUT YOUNG HOOLIGANS. YES. IT'S NOT LIKE WATER TOWER. LIKE A WATER TOWER. AND IF JOHN DEERE GREEN. AND I'LL GIVE YOU MY PLEDGE THAT IF THERE ARE STEPS, I'LL MAKE SURE THEY'RE REMOVED. QUESTIONS FOR GRAYSON. YEAH. AND THIS ONE IS JUST.
THERE HAS BEEN A SEVERE NEED FOR COVERAGE OUT THERE. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF Y'ALL HAVE KIDS IN HIGH SCHOOL OR GO TO THE FOOTBALL GAMES. IT'S A PROBLEM. IT'S A PROBLEM FOR FACULTY AND STAFF AND THE SCHOOL, WELL, THE SCHOOL'S SUPERINTENDENT AND OPERATIONS ARE PUSHING FOR THIS VERY HARD. THIS IS UNFORTUNATELY BEEN A FIVE YEAR PROCESS, BUT WE'RE FINALLY HERE AND HAPPY. IT SHOULD HELP OUT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ACROSS THE STREET AS WELL. QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. SO HOW MUCH OF THE. DEFICIENCY DOES THIS SMALL AMOUNT ACTUALLY COVER? BECAUSE I'VE GOT THE PROPAGATION MAPS. I HESITATED TO SHOW YOU THESE BECAUSE I'M NOT AN RF ENGINEER. YEAH, BUT THIS IS THE HIGH BAND BEFORE AND AFTER. I'M ASSUMING THE BLUE AND THE RED ARE NOT AS GOOD AS THE GREEN. CORRECT? CORRECT. AND THIS IS THE LOW BAND BEFORE. AND AFTER. CAN I GET IT? OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO RAIN. IT DOES A LITTLE BIT BETTER THAN THE SIZE INDICATES. YES, SIR. YES, SIR. AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T STATE THE. OUR ZONING ORDINANCE SAYS IT NEEDS TO BE EITHER 250FT OR 300% OF THE HEIGHT OF THE TOWER AWAY FROM RESIDENTIALLY ZONED LAND. THAT RESIDENTIALLY ZONED LAND IS OWNED BY MR. BOB CARTWRIGHT. AND WHENEVER HE ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL TO GO THERE, HE HAS DEED RESTRICTIONS ON IT, ON THE SCHOOL PROPERTY THAT SAYS IF IT'S A NON-SCHOOL USE, THEN HE HAS TO SIGN A WAIVER. AND SO HE HAS SIGNED THIS WAIVER STATING THAT HE KNOWS IT'S GOING THERE AND HE'S FINE WITH IT GOING THERE. OKAY.
OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. THANKS, GRAYSON. YES, SIR. COMMISSIONERS, CAN I GET A MOTION? LET'S SEE THE MOTION. I'M SURE THEY'LL PUT A PROPOSAL ONE UP HERE. YEAH. MOVE TO
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APPROVE CASE NUMBER 234581. COLLIERVILLE HIGH SCHOOL TOWER. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SECOND MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. DO I HEAR ANY DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS. ALL RIGHT.ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. STAMPS. YES. GREEN. YES. GODDARD. YES. SLED. YES.
FLETCHER. GIVEN. DUBOSE. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. THAT I THINK WE HAVE UPDATE ON THE MAJOR ROAD
[8.e Case #252852]
PLAN. AND I ASSUME THAT JAMIE'S GOING TO TELL US ABOUT THAT OR. MIKE, ARE YOU GOING TO TELL US? OH, JAMIE IS GOING TO TELL US. WE ALL TAKE TURNS SHARING PROJECTS. MY MIND ALL HATCHED AT THE SAME TIME. YES. SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO AMEND THE MAJOR ROAD PLAN OF THE TOWN. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE THE MAJOR ROAD PLAN IS A DOCUMENT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION. IT DOESN'T GO TO THE MAYOR AND BOARD. YOU GET TO BREAK FREE A LITTLE BIT OF OF POLITICS AND THINK ABOUT WHAT WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR FOR THE COMMUNITY. WE WE DO AMENDED OFTEN. SOMETIMES APPLICANTS ASK TO AMEND IT RELATED TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT REQUESTS. LAST TIME WAS IN 2022 WITH ASHBY. THERE WAS A ROAD. THEY CALLED IT THE CUT THROUGH THAT WOULD HAVE EXTENDED WHITE ROAD. THAT WAS THE LAST TIME WE ADMITTED THE ROAD PLAN, BUT I IMAGINE WE'LL AMEND IT HERE IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. THERE ARE FIVE CHANGES THAT ARE HAPPENING.A COUPLE OF THEM ARE PRETTY MINOR CLEANUP CHANGES, BUT THE MAIN CHANGES ARE TO THE WINCHESTER EXTENSION, WHERE IT CURRENTLY ENDS, RIGHT AT COWAN ROAD AND WINCHESTER, GOING ALL THE WAY TO HIGHWAY 72, AND HOW TO HOW WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IT ALL THE WAY TO HIGHWAY 72.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS A STAFF INITIATED CHANGE. IT'S IN RESPONSE TO AN APPLICATION THAT WE'RE REVIEWING. YOU'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE MASQUERADING PERMIT FOR THOMPSON SUBDIVISION OR THOMPSON MACHINE INDUSTRIAL SUBDIVISION. YOU'LL SEE A PRELIMINARY PLAT SOON. WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM BEHIND THE SCENES ON THAT. AND IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS, WE THERE WAS AN IDEA THAT THAT WAS THROWN OUT NEED TO OUR TOWN TRAFFIC ENGINEER HAD HAD THIS IDEA TO MAYBE INSTEAD OF EXTENDING COMMERCE WHICH THIS WOULD EXTEND COMMERCE, BUT MAYBE WE COULD RUN WINCHESTER THROUGH THE THOMPSON SUBDIVISION, THE INDUSTRIAL SUBDIVISION, RATHER THAN COMMERCE, AND KEEP WINCHESTER FROM INTERSECTING HIGHWAY 72 AS FAR NORTH AS WE HAD ORIGINALLY PLANNED. ORIGINALLY, WE WERE PLANNING TO INTERSECT RIGHT AROUND RIGHT ACROSS FROM SAINT MARK'S CHURCH, RIGHT AFTER, RIGHT CLOSE TO WHERE WE PUT IN THAT THAT NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT SYCAMORE. SO MOVING IT SOUTH HAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT ADVANTAGES. ONE IS THAT NEW LIGHT AT SYCAMORE PUTTING A WINCHESTER THERE WOULD NEED A LIGHT, AND HAVING TWO LIGHTS SO CLOSE TOGETHER IS NOT GOING TO WORK. SO THAT THAT'S ONE REASON ANOTHER. AND I WISH THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS HERE. THERE ARE FOLKS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM HARRIS STREET. WE'RE GETTING AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. SO BY GOING SOUTH, WE'RE WE'RE GETTING CARS AND TRUCKS AWAY. WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO HIGHWAY 72.
SO 72. SO THAT'S ANOTHER PLUS AND ANOTHER CHANGE THAT'S HAPPENING IN THIS AREA IS WE'RE WE'RE ALSO GOING TO KEEP DISTRIBUTION PARKWAY EXTENDED. THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE PLANS.
WE'RE ADDING SYCAMORE ROAD BACK TO THE MAJOR ROAD PLAN IN 2015. WE TOOK IT OFF THE MAJOR ROAD PLAN. AND THIS IS BEFORE COLLIERVILLE HIGH SCHOOL OPENED UP. WE THOUGHT THAT WITH IT BEING A TWO LANE, TREE LINED ROAD THAT MAYBE, MAYBE WE NEEDED TO HAVE TRUCKS AND INDUSTRY USING OTHER ROADS RATHER THAN SYCAMORE. WE THOUGHT MAYBE SYCAMORE IN THAT AREA. THIS IS ON BETWEEN 72 AND 385. MAYBE IT HAD RUN ITS COURSE AS FAR AS BEING A MAJOR ACCESS ROAD BECAUSE OF THE PLANNED INDUSTRIAL USES. WHEN THE SCHOOL OPENED OVERNIGHT, OUR TRAFFIC PATTERNS IN TOWN CHANGED AND SYCAMORE HAS BECOME A VERY IMPORTANT ROAD FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO THE CARNIVAL HIGH SCHOOL. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE ADDED THE TRAFFIC LIGHT RECENTLY. SO WE NEED TO ADD IT BACK TO THE MAJOR ROAD PLAN, AND IT'S PLANNED TO BE A THREE LANE SECTION AT SOME POINT OVER TIME. BUT IT'S IT'S SEEN AS CRITICAL TO PROVIDING PROPER TRAFFIC FLOW TO THE, TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. SO THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER CHANGE.
AND THEN ALTHOUGH WE ARE NOT PUTTING IN WINCHESTER RIGHT AT HIGHWAY 72, WE SEE THE NEED FOR ANOTHER COLLECTOR THAT WILL ACT KIND OF LIKE DISTRIBUTION PARKWAY. IT WON'T BE AS WIDE AS
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WINCHESTER IT'LL BE, AND IT WON'T BE A DIRECT ROUTE. IT WILL BE SOMEWHAT CIRCUITOUS TO GET TO WINCHESTER, BUT THE IDEA THERE IS TO TRY TO DISTRIBUTE TRAFFIC AROUND, PARTICULARLY AS INDUSTRY GROWS IN THIS AREA. AND THEN HERE'S A BLOW UP OF THAT AREA. IF YOU WANT TO WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND LOOKING AT COMING UP WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE LOOKED AT NOT ONLY THE EXISTING LAND USE, BUT HOW WHAT THE 2040 PLAN SAID FOR THIS AREA NEED TO. AND ONE OF OUR STAFF ENGINEERS, NATHAN, THEY LOOKED REALLY CAREFULLY AT EXISTING NONCONNAH CREEK FLOODPLAIN AND TRYING TO SPLIT THE PROPERTIES SO THAT THEY WERE STILL DEVELOPABLE AND STAY AWAY FROM THE FLOODPLAINS. BUT IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT WITH THE MAJOR ROAD PLAN AMENDMENT, IT IS NOT AN ENGINEERED LINE THAT EVENTUALLY THERE WOULD BE AN ENGINEERED STUDY TO FIND THE EXACT LOCATION. SO THIS IS AN APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF WINCHESTER THAT WOULD HELP WITH THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS, BUT IT'S NOT AN ENGINEERED LINE. SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS FOR APPROVAL OF THIS AMENDMENT. AND EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME OTHER AMENDMENTS. WITH THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO GET A WE'RE DOING A TRAFFIC MODEL, AND WE'RE GOING TO COMPLETELY UPDATE THE LAND USE PLAN WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A BRAND NEW ROAD PLAN TO GO ALONG WITH IT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GET A CHANCE TO TO REVISIT SOME OF THESE POLICIES. BUT WE THOUGHT SINCE THOMPSON'S ALREADY PENDING, WE COULD GO AHEAD AND UPDATE THIS AREA. AND THAT'LL HELP US IN OUR PLANNING FOR THE COMP PLAN. THE PROPOSED MOTIONS ON THE SCREEN. QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. THEN I WOULD ASK FOR A MOTION COMMISSIONERS MOTION TO AMEND CARGILL'S MAJOR ROAD PLAN, AS DEPICTED IN EXHIBITS ONE AND THREE, AND PROCEED WITH RECORDING THE UPDATED CARNIVAL MAJOR ROAD PLAN WITH THE OFFICE OF THE SHELBY COUNTY REGISTER.SECOND, DO I HEAR ANY DISCUSSION? MOTION MADE AND SECONDED. ALL RIGHT, ANGEL, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. GREEN. YES. GODDARD. YES. SLED. YES. FLETCHER. GIVEN. YES. DUBOSE.
STAMPS. YES. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS. JAMIE. WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE COME
[9 Development Updates (new cases, administrative reviews, etc.)]
BEFORE US HERE NOW, YOU'VE HAD A LONG NIGHT, SO I WILL ANSWER DEVELOPMENT QUESTIONS, BUT I WILL LET YOU KNOW A COUPLE A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU SENT THE PARKING ORDINANCE TO THE BMA RELATED TO THE MCDONALD'S, AND WE'RE REVIEWING THE MCDONALD'S BEHIND THE SCENES, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE ABLE TO COME TO YOU IN 2026. WE THINK WE'VE WORKED IT OUT WITH THEM WHERE THEY ACTUALLY WON'T NEED ANY KIND OF CHANGE TO THE PARKING REGULATIONS THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE, MEET THE MAXIMUM PARKING LIMIT. THE BMA WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE WAY THE PARKING CAP ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN, AS YOU ALL RECOMMENDED. SO THEY'VE ASKED US TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH SOME ADDITIONAL IDEAS AND MAYBE PRESENT THAT IN THE CLEAN UP ORDINANCE AND MAYBE EVEN IN THE COMP PLAN, TOO. I THINK WE JUST NEED TO RETHINK PARKING ALTOGETHER. SO THERE'LL BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO REVISIT THAT DISCUSSION. BUT ANY ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY? WELL, WE GOT A SECOND. OKAY. I WILL MOVE ON TO OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS. DON'T FORGET TO REAPPLY TO BE[10 Other Business]
ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION IF YOU WANT TO KEEP DOING THIS. IF YOU'RE HAVING A GOOD TIME, APPLY BY 5 P.M. ON NOVEMBER 20TH. THAT IS WHEN THEY THEY LOCKED DOWN THE WEBSITE. SO THERE'S A LINK THAT WE'VE SENT YOU. SO BE SURE TO TO FILL THAT OUT. AS FAR AS YOUR FOUR HOURS OF STATE REQUIRED TRAINING, WE'RE GOING TO BE SENDING OUT OUR LAST EMAIL OF THE YEAR WITH WITH LINKS FOR, WELL, MORE THAN FOUR HOURS. 1231 IS THE STATE DEADLINE, BUT WE SUGGEST THAT YOU GET IT IN BY NOVEMBER 20TH, BECAUSE THE BOARD DOES LOOK AT TRAINING RECORDS AS PART OF MAKING THEIR DECISION, AND IT WOULD BE BE GOOD TO GET IT DONE BY THEN. THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION IS ON DECEMBER 4TH. WE'VE HAD SOME RESIDENTS, TWO HOUSEHOLDS FOR PROPERTIES THAT HAVE ASKED TO BE DE-ANNEXED FROM COLLIERVILLE, WHICH IS RARE. I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS AS A PLANNER. I'VE ALWAYS WORKED IN PLACES WHERE PEOPLE WANTED TO BE IN IN THE TOWN, NOT OUT, BUT THEY HAVE THEIR REASONS. AND I'LL EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU IN DECEMBER AND YOU'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. THE BOARD WILL ULTIMATELY DECIDE, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE CLEANUP ORDINANCE. MORE ON YOUR JANUARY MEETING. JUST A REMINDER THAT THE IT WILL BE ON JANUARY 6TH BECAUSE OF HOW THE NEW YEAR FALLS. AND THAT'S A TUESDAY ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE ARE CONTINUING TO MEET WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE. WE HAD A MEETING THIS PAST MONDAY, OUR SECOND MEETING, AND THEY'RE STARTING TO GET INTO A ROUTINE OF MEETING ON THE ON THE FIRST TUESDAY OF OF EVERY MONTH, UNLESS THERE'S A LARGE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT EVENT. IN THAT CASE, THIS IN DECEMBER, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE CONSULTANT IN TOWN AND WE'RE[01:35:04]
GOING TO HAVE A LARGE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WEEK. SO THE WEEK OF DECEMBER 15TH, AND I THINK THERE'S A MEETING THAT DAY. MIKE, IS IT ON THE 15TH OR IS IT THE 16TH? WE IT WILL BE THE EVENING OF THE 15TH YET WE'LL HAVE MORE ADVERTISING. SO KEEP KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN FOR SOME, SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. BUT THERE WILL BE A, A PUBLIC MEETING ON ON THE WEEK OF DECEMBER 15TH AND PROBABLY ON THE 15TH OR MORE INFORMATION TO COME. AND WE'RE ABOUT TO RELEASE A PROJECT WEBSITE TOO. AND THAT WAY PEOPLE CAN FOLLOW ALONG AND IT'LL HAVE SOME REALLY NEAT TOOLS. THERE'S THIS ONE TOOL WHERE YOU CAN YOU CAN HAVE AN INTERACTIVE MAP, AND IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT SOMETHING IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU CAN PUT A DOT ON A MAP AND FILL OUT A LITTLE COMMENT CARD. AND THAT'S GOING TO GET INTO THE INTO THE MIX. SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT TOOLS LIKE THAT FROM OUR CONSULTANT. AS FAR AS STAFFING GOES, NANDITA, HER LAST DAY WAS OCTOBER 31ST AND SO SHE'S LEFT US AND SHE'S GONE TO WORK FOR MEMPHIS AND SHELBY COUNTY. THAT'S WHY I DID THE DUPLEX. SHE WAS ON THE DUPLEX CASE. BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A NEW PLANNER AND WE HAVE A NEW PLANNING TECH STARTING VERY SOON. AND HE'LL WORK MOSTLY WITH THE HISTORIC DISTRICT IN THAT THAT AREA OF TOWN. SO CONTINUAL TURNOVER. BUT I'M EXCITED ABOUT SOME OF OUR PROSPECTS FOR GETTING NEW STAFF. SO I'VE GOT ALL RIGHT,* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.