Oct 02, 2025 Planning Commission

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STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. WELCOME.

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FLETCHER. GIVEN. HERE. DUBOSE. STAMPS. HERE. COTTON. HERE. COMMISSIONERS. WE. THE NEXT

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ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. GODDARD. YES. SLED. YES. ROZANSKI. YES. FLETCHER. YES.

GIVEN. YES. STAMPS. YES. GREEN. YES. COTTON. YES. JAMIE. ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONS OR

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COMMISSIONER, DID I CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS PUBLISHED? SO MOVED.

SECOND. ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SLED. YES. ROZANSKI. YES. FLETCHER. YES. GIVEN. YES.

STAMPS. YES. YES. GODDARD. YES. COTTON. YES. AND TO EVERYONE IN THE AUDIENCE, WE'RE AT THE POINT IN OUR MEETING WHERE WE ARE LOOKING FOR CITIZENS COMMENTS. DOES NOT ABOUT TONIGHT. BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANT TO SOME SOME COMPLAINT, SOMETHING YOU WANT TO VOICE, NOW'S THE TIME TO DO IT. DON'T EVERYONE JUMP UP AT ONCE, MA'AM. COME FORWARD.

STATE YOUR NAME. TELL US WHO YOU ARE. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WHERE YOU LIVE. ALRIGHT, GO.

MY NAME IS JODY JONES. LUCAS. I LIVE AT 540 HARRISON STATE DRIVE. OF COURSE. COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE, 3017. YES, MA'AM. AND I'M COMMENTING ON AGENDA ITEM EIGHT B NO, MA'AM. THIS IS NOT ABOUT AGENDA ITEMS. THIS IS ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE BUT THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. OKAY. HAVE YOU FILLED OUT A CARD? YES. YOU DID. WELL, THEN WE WILL CALL YOU. AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

OKAY. THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. NAME IS WOODROW BROWN. I ACTUALLY MAYBE WAS A MISSING COMMUNICATION ABOUT THE AGENDA. ABOUT AGENDA EIGHT TONIGHT, SIR. I THOUGHT THAT WAS COMING. HAVE YOU FILLED OUT A BLUE CARD? YES, I DID WELL, NEED A BLUE CARD. AND IF THE APPROPRIATE TIME IN THE MEETING, I WILL CALL YOUR NAME AND YOU CAN COME UP AND SPEAK.

THIS IS ABOUT. DOES SOMEBODY HAVE A COMPLAINT ABOUT A BUMP IN THE STREET? IS YOUR GARBAGE NOT GETTING PICKED UP? TELL ME. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ABOUT RIGHT NOW. AND I SEE NO ONE JUMPING UP AT THAT. SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THAT PORTION OF THE PROGRAM RIGHT NOW. NOW, WE HAVE ALREADY WE DON'T HAVE A CONSENT AGENDA,

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YES. HELLO. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU. WELCOME. AND YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION. YES, MA'AM. PROCEED. GOOD EVENING. THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT FOR A 6.84 ACRE LOT IN THE OAK HILL SUBDIVISION. THE PROPERTY

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PHASE ONE, WHICH INCLUDES 37 LOTS, PHASE TWO AND THREE, WHICH INCLUDE 70 LOTS, AND PHASE FOUR, WHICH INCLUDES THE ROAD IMPROVEMENT ALONG SHELTON ROAD. THE PURPLE SECTION CONTAINS 46 ACRES, ABOUT 46 ACRES OF FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND PHASE FIVE. IT IS THE 6.84 ACRE TRACT ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. THE BULK REQUIREMENTS FOR PHASE FIVE MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE R-1 ZONING DISTRICT. AN ERROR WAS FOUND IN THE SITE DATA CHART REGARDING THE BULK REQUIREMENTS. HOWEVER, A NEW CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WAS ADDED TO ADDRESS THIS ERROR.

THIS PHASE WILL EXTEND THE MORE HILL CIRCLE SOUTH AND CONNECT TO THE MOOREFIELD ROAD STUB.

THIS WILL EXTEND THE STUB FROM PHASE ONE AND TIE INTO THE SHENANDOAH SUBDIVISION ROAD.

DEVELOPED IN 1977, THE CONNECTION TO MOOREFIELD ROAD WILL PROVIDE A THIRD ENTRANCE AND EXIT FOR THE MORE HILLS FOR THE OAK HILL SUBDIVISION. SORRY, THE 15 ADDED LOTS WILL HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT ON THE EXISTING ROAD NETWORK. PHASE FIVE WILL NOT REQUIRE ANY ROAD IMPROVEMENTS ALONG SHELTON ROAD, BUT FUTURE PHASE PHASES MAY REQUIRE. THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING AN ALTERNATIVE RIGHT OF WAY OF 31FT AND 9.5FT PEDESTRIAN AND UTILITY EASEMENTS ACROSS ALL FRONTS OF THE LOTS, AND THE THE ALTERNATIVE RIGHT OF WAY MATCHES THE ROAD DESIGN THAT WAS APPROVED FOR PHASE ONE OF THE SUBDIVISION. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING NOT TO EXTEND THE SIDEWALK ALONG EAST OF MOOREFIELD ROAD, BUT THE BMA WILL MAKE THAT DECISION WHEN THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT WHEN THE FUTURE TRACT IS DEVELOPED. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, NOT REQUESTING NO UTILITY EASEMENTS BE REQUIRED IN THE FOLLOWING SECTIONS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE. REAR YARDS OF LOTS 115 THROUGH 122. WHICH ARE THOSE LOTS AT THE BOTTOM AND ALONG THE WEST SIDES OF LOTS 115 AND 115, 114 AND 115. TO AVOID CONFLICT WITH THE PROPOSED PUBLIC DRAINAGE EASEMENTS, WHICH ARE THESE TWO LOTS LOCATED HERE AND HERE AND HERE. THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ALLOW FOR THE PC TO GRANT WAIVERS, PROVIDED THAT A WRITTEN APPROVAL IS OBTAINED FROM EACH UTILITY COMPANY OR PROVIDER WITH AN INTEREST IN THE EASEMENTS PRIOR TO THE CONSIDERATION OF THE REQUEST. NO DETENTION IS PROPOSED IN THE GRADING AND DRAINAGE DRAIN. IN THE GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT WILL DRAIN DIRECTLY INTO WOLF RIVER THROUGH LATERAL J, WHICH IS HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE. THE WATER AND SEWER CAPACITY IS SUFFICIENT FOR THIS REQUEST. WETLANDS ARE PRESENT ON THIS PROPERTY AS WELL, AND THAT WILL REQUIRE TDEC PERMITS IF THEY ENCROACH INTO ANY OF THE. THE PC WILL NEED TO DECIDE IF THE PROPOSED PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT SHOULD INCLUDE UTILITY EASEMENTS ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE. REAR YARDS OF LOTS 115 THROUGH 122, AND THE WEST SIDE OF LOTS 114 AND 115. STAFF RECOMMENDS THE APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT,

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WE MAY NEED TO ASK THE APPLICANT, HAVE THEY REACHED OUT TO. BUT JAMIE, I'M NOT SURE THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IS TO TO PROVIDE THAT DOCUMENTATION. AND THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN BEFORE THE FINAL PLAT IS RECORDED. SO IF THEY IF FOR SOME REASON THE UTILITY SAYS THEY NEED IT, THEY COULDN'T GET THE WAIVER AND THEY WOULD SHOW THE EASEMENTS AT THE FINAL PLAT STAGE. BUT BUT I KNOW STEVEN IS HERE WHEN HIS TIME COMES, AND STEVEN WILLIAMS MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO WHAT UTILITY COMPANIES HE'S SPOKEN TO. YES, SHEILA, AM I CORRECT THAT THE APPLICANT AGREES WITH ALL THE YES, YES, THE APPLICANT AGREES WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS AND ALL OF THE CONDITIONS ARE THE EXACT SAME FROM THE STAFF REPORT, EXCEPT ADDED CONDITION TEN, WHICH IS TO REVISE THE SITE DATA CHART. THE ERROR WE FOUND EARLIER.

OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU. COME ON UP STEVEN.

COMMISSIONERS STEVEN WILLIAMS, 3035 CENTER OAK WAY AND GERMANTOWN, TENNESSEE, REPRESENTING JASON CREWS AND OAK HILL PHASE FIVE. SO GOOD JOB TO SHEILA. THAT'S NERVE WRACKING GETTING ALL THAT INFORMATION OUT, ISN'T IT? I'M GOING TO DO THE ABRIDGED VERSION. WE'RE JUST SIMPLY DOING ANOTHER SMALL PHASE OF WHAT'S ALREADY THERE. WE'RE GOING TO COME IN AND DO THESE NUMBER LOTS WORKING WITH MAGNOLIA HOMES, LOOKING AT THOSE UTILITY EASEMENTS. I HAVE NOT CONTACTED UTILITY COMPANIES YET. TYPICALLY, IT'S PRETTY EASY TO GET LETTERS OF REVOCATION OF RELEASE. THOSE EASEMENTS, THEY'RE LIKE ANYBODY ELSE. PATH OF LEAST RESISTANCE. AND SHEILA MENTIONED THE DRAINAGE EASEMENT ON THOSE TWO NEW LOTS. BUT ALSO WE'RE WE'RE ABUTTING SHENANDOAH. THERE'S A LOT OF EXISTING TREES, AND I MEAN, SOME REALLY PRETTY BUFFER THAT WE DON'T WANT TO DISTURB, AND NEITHER WOULD THE HOME BUILDER. AND EQUALLY SO COMCAST, AT&T LIKE GAS AND WATER. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WANT TO GO THROUGH THERE. SO IT SHOULD BE FAIRLY EASY TO GET AHOLD OF THAT. SO NOTHING TOO CRAZY BUT I'M OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU ALL HAVE THEM. IT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. STEVEN. YOU'RE ANTICIPATING ALL THE WATER, SEWER AND ELECTRICAL TO COME OFF OF MONROE HILL. SO DO WE HAVE THE UTILITY PLAN ON THE SLIDE? MAYBE NOT. THE BIGGEST THING WE'RE GOING TO TAP IN. SO DRAINAGE IS A LITTLE I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SEE THAT VERY WELL. THIS SCREEN RIGHT UNTIL WE GOT BACK THAT THAT ONE YOU WERE JUST AT. SO. THAT SO WE'RE THIS WAS A BIG REQUEST BY ENGINEERING PUBLIC UTILITIES. AND CHIEF JOHNSON WHO'S HERE TONIGHT. WATER WILL LOOP THROUGH MONROE. WE'RE GOING TO TRY NOT TO DISTURB TOO MUCH SINCE THAT STREET'S BEEN THERE FOR MANY YEARS. WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WHERE WE TIE IN BEHIND THE BACK OF CURVE ON THE RIGHT OF WAY, AND DO A DIRECTIONAL BOARD, TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY THROUGH THERE AS LEAST DISTURBED AS POSSIBLE. BUT YEAH, SEWER, STORM WATER, WATER ALL WILL CONNECT TO EXISTING SYSTEMS PER WHAT ENGINEERING IS APPROVED. SO NOTHING. NOTHING CRAZY. WE'RE NOT GOING TO CROSS THE CREEK WITH THIS PHASE. WE'RE GOING TO TRY NOT TO. WE'RE GOING TO DO AS LITTLE DISTURBANCE AS POSSIBLE THAT THAT LAND IS ALREADY CLEARED FOR DRAINAGE AS IT IS NOW FOR PHASE ONE. AND SO IT'LL REALLY JUST BE FILLING IN SOME DRAINAGE, PUTTING IN THE UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE AND BUILDING HOMES. SO REALLY THE ONLY RELEASE YOU NEED WOULD BE FROM INTERNET SERVICE. SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE COMING OFF THE FRONT EDGE. WELL, YES, BUT

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SO ANYBODY ELSE VICE MAYOR GOT A QUESTION? I'LL SEE YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE THREE BLUE CARDS. SO AS I CALL YOUR NAME COME UP, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND TELL US WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND. DEAN. TORTORELLI. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO BUTCHER YOUR NAME, I APOLOGIZE. GOOD EVENING. DEAN TORTORELLI 314 POWDER SPRINGS COVE. I'M HERE TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPROVAL FOR THIS. AS AN EXISTING HOMEOWNER IN THE AREA WITH TWO CHILDREN, THE EXPANSION OF THIS ROAD, THE COLLIERVILLE SCHOOL DISTRICT, MAKES MY KIDS WALK BECAUSE WE'RE AT 1.49 MILES FROM THE SCHOOL INSTEAD OF 1.5. MY KIDS LIKE RIDING BIKES. THERE ARE KIDS ALL OVER THE STREET. THIS IS JUST EXTRA TRAFFIC AND DANGER. WE JUST HAD A SIDEWALK ADDED TO OURS AND NOW I'M SEEING YOU GUYS AREN'T GOING TO ADD A SIDEWALK TO THIS EXISTING STREET. JUST JUST FOR THE JUST FOR THE JUST FOR THE EXISTING WITHIN WITH INSIDE OF THE THE THE SUBDIVISION THE WELL THE THE NEW DEVELOPMENTS. RIGHT. SO JUST DECIDE WITHIN THERE. SO NOT THERE IS ALREADY NO SIDEWALK ON THAT ON THAT PORTION. AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ADD A SIDEWALK AGAIN FOR THE EXISTING RESIDENTS. THERE IS NO SIDEWALK THERE. AGAIN, THIS IS AN AREA WHERE KIDS HAVE TO WALK TO SCHOOL. ON THE LEFT SIDE.

WHAT ABOUT THE RIGHT SIDE? NO SIDEWALK. YEAH. I MEAN, NO UTILITY RIGHTS. SO HIGH SPEED INTERNET. WE'RE ALSO NOT GETTING THAT. I DON'T SEE THE BENEFIT TO THE EXISTING RESIDENTS. I SEE NICE, BIG, BEAUTIFUL HOMES BEING BUILT RIGHT BEHIND OUR 40 AND 50 YEAR OLD HOMES. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT IMPROVES MY MY MY HOME VALUE. I, I VOTE NO, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS UP TO A VOTE. I VOTE NO, THANK YOU SIR. KIP GREER. GOOD AFTERNOON. KIP GREER, 1169 MONROE HILL CIRCLE WEST. SO OAK HILL, I'VE BEEN THERE. I'M IN LOT EIGHT, SO I'VE BEEN THERE A WHILE, ABOUT FOUR YEARS. AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE PHASE FIVE. THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS, IS WITH THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER IS THE MOREFIELD ENTRANCE. WE WOULD PREFER NOT TO SEE THAT ENTRANCE AND NOT CREATE ANOTHER ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE SUBDIVISION THERE, THAT WE'LL GET A LOT OF ADDITIONAL THROUGHPUT TRAFFIC THAT WE DON'T NEED. TO HIS POINT, WE GOT A LOT OF KIDS AND THEY WALK TO THE BUS STOP AND IT'S JUST A LOT, A LOT OF YOUNG KIDS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WE'VE GOT ADEQUATE ENTRANCE AND EXIT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SEVERAL NEIGHBORS IN THE IN THE SUBDIVISION WHO HAVE SIMILAR CONCERNS, AND WE'RE JUST GOING TO CREATE SOME MORE TRAFFIC. AND I DON'T REALLY SEE THE POINT IN IT BECAUSE WE WE HAVE ADEQUATE, YOU KNOW, ENTRANCE AND EXIT TO THE, TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. SO TO HIS POINT, I VOTE NO, I DON'T KNOW I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.

BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE THAT'S THE BIG ISSUE FOR US, I GUESS WE HAVE SOME OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THOSE LOTS THAT ARE GOING IN. THERE'S BEEN DRAINAGE PROBLEMS THERE IN THE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS. I WOULD I WOULD HOPE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE, THE PHASE FIVE WOULD ACTUALLY HELP THEIR DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT WILL OR NOT, BUT BUT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE THE ONLY OTHER CONCERN THAT THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE ON THAT. BUT IT'S REALLY FOR ME AND I'M ON MONROE HILL WEST, WHICH MEANS THAT IF WE CUT THAT STREET IN, IT'S GOING TO CREATE A MUCH MORE TRAFFIC COMING RIGHT DOWN THAT MAIN ROAD TO GO CUT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THERE'S NO THERE'S NO SCHOOL THAT SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO GET TO. I WOULD ASSUME THE BUS STOPS AND ALL FOR THE SHENANDOAH NEIGHBORHOOD ARE GOING TO REMAIN ON THE OTHER SIDE IN THE SHENANDOAH AREA.

BUT SO AGAIN, THAT'S A BIG CONCERN FOR US THAT THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT MOREFIELD ROAD

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BUT FROM OUR BENEFIT. THANK YOU. MR. JACOB MOODY. GOOD EVENING. JUST LIKE DEAN, I'M ALSO IN POWDER SPRINGS COVE. I'M A LITTLE FURTHER BACK IN THE COVE. 340 POWDER SPRINGS COVE. I'M A LITTLE FURTHER BACK IN THE COVE, SO I GUESS THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY AFFECT MY HOUSE YET, BUT WITH THE PHASE FIVE, OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD CONTINUE FURTHER DOWN. SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO EXPRESS SOME CONCERNS AND I MOVED IN RIGHT BEFORE COVID HIT. THAT WHOLE AREA WAS WOODED. A COUPLE MONTHS LATER IT GOT ALL CLEARED OUT, BUT A COUPLE TREES AND STUFF THAT KIND OF KEPT MY PROPERTY AND SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS OR NEIGHBORS NEXT TO US HIDDEN. SO NOW WE FOUND OUT. I ACTUALLY HAD TO FIND OUT THROUGH DEAN, BECAUSE I GUESS I DIDN'T GET THAT NOTIFICATION BECAUSE IT HASN'T GOTTEN FURTHER DOWN INTO MY AREA. BUT NOW THAT THE CONSTRUCTION COULD END UP RIGHT UP TO MY PROPERTY LINE, IT KIND OF RAISES CONCERNS OVER, YOU KNOW, PRIVACY, DRAINAGE, ALL DRAINAGE AND RUNOFF. AND THEN THAT WHOLE GREEN SPREAD GREEN SPACE, ARE WE GOING TO LOSE THAT AREA? YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LITTLE CREEK THAT DRAINAGE BACK THERE RUNS BACK. SO NO INFORMATION HAS REALLY BEEN PASSED TO THIS SIDE OF THE COVE. AND BEYOND, LIKE THAT PHYSICAL IMPACT. THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S QUALITY OF LIFE. A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT AREA WORK FROM HOME. THEY HAVE LITTLE KIDS. I THINK SINCE I'VE MOVED IN, I HAVE HEARD NOTHING BUT CONSTRUCTION NOISE. AND IT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF CAUSES HEADACHES AND ISSUES WITH REGARDING THAT. AND THEN JUST, YOU KNOW, HE WAS HE WAS THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER WAS SPEAKING ON. HE DOESN'T WANT THAT ROAD TO CUT THROUGH. I'M ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT AND WE DON'T WANT IT THROUGH EITHER. SO I GUESS IT'S KIND OF ON BOTH SIDES THAT WE DON'T PREFER THIS ROAD TO CUT THROUGH ON MOOREFIELD. AND THEN THE TRAFFIC, I JUST, I THINK IT'LL INCREASE THAT THERE'S CARS FLYING UP AND DOWN EAST HARPERS FERRY ALL THE TIME. THERE'S A POLICE OFFICER THAT LIVES FURTHER DOWN ON HARPERS FERRY.

WE'VE WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS BEFORE. SO MY ONLY QUESTIONS IS, YOU KNOW, HAS THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT LIKE, BEEN STUDIED, THE DRAINAGE, THAT WHOLE ISSUE, WHAT PROTECTIONS REMAIN FOR THE EXISTING THE EXISTING RESIDENTS TO ENSURE LIKE OUR PRIVACY AND PEACE IS PRESERVED? I KNOW IF I HAD KNOWN THAT THIS WHOLE PHASE WAS GOING TO BE THERE, WE MIGHT HAVE SEARCHED SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR OUR HOUSE. AND THEN WILL THE TOWN CONSIDER LIKE A GREEN BUFFER OR MAYBE SOME TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES AND LIMIT MAYBE LIMIT CONSTRUCTION HOURS? I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE GROWTH, BUT JUST KIND OF RIGHT NOW, IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT'S BEEN DRIVEN BY PROFIT AND NOT REALLY.

THE COMMUNITY'S LIKE LONG TERM WELL-BEING. IT KIND OF SHOULD ENHANCE OUR CITY. BUT YEAH, THAT'S ALL I GOT TO SAY. I VOTE NO, THANK YOU SIR, THANK YOU. LET'S HEAR FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THIS ROAD. YES. GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONER AND BOARD. SO I CAN BACK THIS UP A LITTLE BIT. THE. SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS, TODD JOHNSON, FIRE MARSHAL TOWN.

THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS STIPULATE THAT WHEN A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION GROWS GREATER THAN 100 LOTS, THAT THE HAVE AT LEAST TWO ACCESS POINTS AND A STUB STREET IS NOT ALLOWED, IS NOT CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE TWO ACCESS POINTS. SO THEY'RE AT THAT POINT NOW WHEN A SEPARATION IS REQUIRED, IT'S REQUIRED TO BE ONE HALF. THE SEPARATION OF THE STUB STREET IS REQUIRED TO BE ONE HALF OF THE DEVELOPED WIDTH OF THE PROPERTY, SO NOT THE. DO YOU HAVE THE ORIGINAL LAYOUT THAT YOU SHOWED IN THE BEGINNING OF YOUR PRESENTATION? WOW. BASED OFF THE ORIGINAL DESIGN, IT'S ROUGHLY. NO, NOT THAT ONE. THE ONE YOU. SORRY.

OKAY, TAKE YOUR TIME. IF YOU START RIGHT THERE. BASED OFF OF THIS DESIGN CONCEPT I TOOK, THE

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AND SO THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE LOOK AT. WE DID GET CALCULATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT THAT'S NOT GETTING WORSE. SO THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL HOLD THEM TO. IF YOU HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, WE DO HAVE SOME OF OUR ENGINEERS HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. YES. GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD EVENING. TO ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION HOURS, WE DO HAVE LIMITATIONS FOR OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT. NO CONSTRUCTION NOISE CAN BE CREATED, TYPICALLY BETWEEN OR BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7 P.M. AND 7 A.M. THEY CAN COME ON TO SITE. THEY CAN START DOING PREP WORK.

IT'S JUST THAT THEY CAN'T RUN MACHINES, START DROPPING TREES. ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE A SUBSTANTIAL DISTURBANCE TO THE QUALITY AND PEACE OF YOUR TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT WE HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION TO DEVIATE FROM THAT, BUT THOSE ARE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES, TYPICALLY DEALT WITH WEATHER CONDITIONS WHERE WE GET INTO VERY HOT MONTHS AND THEY JUST CANNOT POUR CONCRETE WHEN IT GETS TOO HOT. SO WAS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE TIME FRAME? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. COMMISSIONERS, DO I GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND WE GET A DISCUSSION GOING? MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED WITH ADDITIONAL CONDITION. 1010. SECOND. ALL RIGHT COMMISSIONERS, WHAT WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND? ANY ANY THOUGHTS, ANY DISCUSSION, MISTER CHAIR? YES. GOT A QUESTION FOR THE DEVELOPER? YES, SIR. ANYTIME THERE'S ANY PROGRESS, THERE'S ALWAYS DISRUPTION. A LITTLE BIT, YES. I THINK I'VE HEARD FROM OUR CITIZENS THAT THE POTENTIAL OF HAZARD HAZARDS AND OR SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS. CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT YOU PLAN ON DOING IN REFERENCE TO MAKING IT A MORE FRIENDLY COMMUNITY? IN ADDITION WITH WITH SIDEWALKS ADDITION? YEAH, I DEFINITELY VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THESE FOLKS COMING AND SPEAKING TO THIS. THESE ARE ACTUALLY MY NEIGHBORS. I LIVE TWO STREETS OVER. THIS IS GOOD FOR ME FOR WORK, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY SEE WHERE NOISE CARRYOVER COULD BE A THING. NOW THE NOISE THAT THEY HEAR NOW IS IS NOT TECHNICALLY ME. IT'S IT'S THE HOME BUILDER. BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY TALK TO THEM ABOUT ANY NOISE POLLUTION THAT THEY FACE. I MEAN, MY CONTACT INFORMATION IS READILY AVAILABLE. I HAVE NO ISSUES OF MANY, MANY CITIZENS BEHIND ME. NO, I HAVE NO ISSUES TALKING AND MEETING AND TRYING TO COME TO AN ANSWER. MY QUESTION WAS ABOUT SIDEWALKS. SO I'M COMING TO THAT WITH THE SIDEWALKS THERE. CAN YOU? WHO'S GOT THE WHEEL? YOU GOT THE WHEEL. CAN YOU GO DOWN ON MONROE? SO YOU SEE THE SIDEWALK THAT'S ON THE LEFT SIDE THERE. AND THEN IF YOU PAN BACK THE OTHER WAY, THERE'S AN ACCESSIBLE RAMP RIGHT THERE. TECHNICALLY, THE SIDEWALKS CONNECT BY DESIGN. WHAT I AM ATTEMPTING TO DO FOR, YOU KNOW, TO SATISFY FIRE WITH

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RESIDENTS IN OAK HILL HAVE THAT. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS, BUT WE MIGHT BE OUTSIDE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY IF WE DO THAT ON THIS PERSON'S PROPERTY. SO IT SEEMED TO BE MORE MORE WORK, MORE HEADACHE FOR THE EXISTING RESIDENTS. BUT SIDEWALK WAS THERE, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONNECT TO THAT SIDEWALK THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT. I THINK JAMIE AND SHEILA DO A GOOD JOB OF PLANNING, OF SHOWING THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE TRYING TO CONNECT AND MAKE IT MORE WALKABLE AND SAFE FOR KIDS, SO WE PLAN TO CONNECT TO THAT SIDEWALK WHEN WE MAKE THE ROADWAY CONNECTION, JUST NOT PUTTING SIDEWALK ON THIS PERSON'S PROPERTY BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY SIDEWALK THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU. STEVEN, JUST JUST SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR IN YOUR 31FT NINE AND A HALF, YOU HAVE SIDEWALKS IN YOUR NEW DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? YEAH. CAN YOU POP UP AND YOU'RE RIGHT OF WAY SECTION. YOU HAVE SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES. YEAH. SO THE RIGHT OF WAY, A LOT OF SUBDIVISIONS. YOU'LL SEE RIGHT AWAY. GO TO THE BACK SIDEWALK. THIS RIGHT OF WAY GOES TO THE BACK OF CURB. AND THEN THERE'S LIKE A PEDESTRIAN. SO YEAH, THERE'S STILL SIDEWALKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD RIGHT UP TO A POINT. AND THEN WHEN YOU CURVE AROUND SIDEWALK ON THE NORTH WOULD COME ACROSS, WE'D HAVE A HANDICAP RAMP TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, LAWFULLY ACCEPTABLE. AND THEN WE CONNECT INTO MORPHINE.

SO. BUT YES, FOR THE CITIZENS, I DON'T YOU GUYS OVER HERE, YOU GUYS WANT TO TALK TO ME? PLEASE CATCH ME OUTSIDE. LET'S LET'S TALK ABOUT ISSUES OR WHATEVER SOLUTIONS WE CAN COME TO. OR COMMISSIONERS. Y'ALL HAVE SOMETHING. PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT TO ME.

THANK YOU, MISS FLETCHER. DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION. THAT'S OKAY. IS THERE A PLAN TO EVENTUALLY INSTALL A SIDEWALK ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD ONCE THE OTHER PHASES ARE ARE DEVELOPED AND ARE GOING TO GO OFF THAT WAY OR OR MORE FIELD? YES. PROBABLY NOT THE PLAN. IF YOU THINK ABOUT SIDEWALKS, YOU WOULD DESIGN THEM TO NOT HAVE LIKE A DEAD END SIDEWALK. AND SO IF WE HAVE CROSSINGS AS A WAY OF CONNECTION, WHICH IS WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO, I WOULD HAVE A SIDEWALK MAYBE ON IF THERE'S ANOTHER CORNER LOT, WHICH THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE, THERE'S A BIG DRAINAGE DITCH. WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH THAT.

THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL NATURAL BUFFER THAT IN OUR PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE REALLY WELL PRESERVED. LESS IS BEST ON DISTURBANCE OF THAT STUFF. SO IF YOU ZOOM IN ON PHASE FIVE AREA. SO WHEN YOU WHEN YOU CROSS THAT STREAM, IT'LL PROBABLY BE SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD THERE. BUT WHEN YOU GO ACROSS THE ROAD, THERE MIGHT BE ONLY SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE TO GET YOU THERE AND HAVE RAMPS AND CROSSWALKS THAT MATCH ENGINEERING STANDARDS IN THE TOWN. RIGHT? THE SIDEWALK THAT'S NOT THERE RIGHT NOW. YES, THAT'S ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY.

SO YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE PROPERTY RIGHTS TO DO THAT. CORRECT? I WOULD HAVE TO DO IT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND IF I DO IT IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S THAT LIGHT POLE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR IT GETS INTO THIS WEIRD THING. I DON'T WANT TO DISTURB THOSE PEOPLE IS, YOU KNOW, LESS IS BEST. ON THE DISTURBANCE OF EXISTING CITIZENS AS WELL. THAT'S KIND OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESS. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION. JAMIE, WOULD YOU MIND GOING BACK DOWN, SHOWING THE WHERE THE ROAD STOPS? JUST A CLOSE UP OF THAT. IS THERE ANY SIGNAGE THERE THAT THAT TALKS ABOUT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OR THIS ROAD IN THE FUTURE WILL BE DEVELOPED? HAVE WE EVER DONE THAT? IN THE PLACES I'VE LIVED BEFORE, WE'VE I'VE SEEN THAT THERE IS A SIGN THERE. THIS IS AN OLDER STREET VIEW, BUT THERE

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YES. OKAY. YEAH. BECAUSE I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR ONE OF THE NOTES THAT CAME UP IS A PERSON WHO CONSIDERED BUYING A HOUSE, HAD HE KNOWN, MAY NOT HAVE DONE THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE EVER CONSIDERED DOING THAT ON STUBS LIKE THIS. IT'S IT'S NOT OBVIOUS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXTENDED IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE IT COULD TAKE TEN YEARS, 20 YEARS OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, IT MAY BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER ON ANY STUBS THAT WE HAVE THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO PUT A NOTE OR A SIGN THAT SAYS TO BE COULD BE EXTENDED, COULD TO BE EXTENDED IN SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE. JUST A NOTE. THANK YOU. OTHER DISCUSSION. COMMISSIONER. I. ANGELA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ROZANSKI. YES. FLETCHER. YES. GIBBON. YES. DUBOSE. YES. STAMPS. YES. GREEN. YES.

GODDARD. YES. SLED. YES. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONERS, OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS

[8.b Case #252192]

YES. THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO REZONE A 27.9 ACRE TRACT ON HIGHWAY 72, BUT IT'S ONLY 21.22 ACRES OF THE TRACT WILL ACTUALLY BE REZONED AND WILL BE REZONED FROM GENERAL COMMERCIAL GC TO RE RESTRICTED INDUSTRIAL. THE REMAINING 6.68 ACRES WILL REMAIN GENERAL COMMERCIAL ALONG HIGHWAY 72. THE APPLICANT IS TOWNSHIP DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. GRACE AND VAUGHN, AND HE'S HERE TONIGHT. THE PROPERTY OWNER. THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER IS BEING BEING M INVESTMENTS AND THE FUTURE PROPERTY OWNER IS CARYVILLE SCHOOLS. AND THEY HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE TONIGHT AS WELL. THE LOCATION IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF HIGHWAY 72. IT'S NORTH OF SYCAMORE ROAD AND DISTRIBUTION PARKWAY. IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF BYHALIA ROAD, AND IT'S SOUTH OF HARRIS STREET. AND THIS PROJECT IS KNOWN AS THE COLLIERVILLE SCHOOLS OPERATIONS CENTER. AND THIS IS THE FIRST OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS RELATED TO THIS SITE. GETTING STRAIGHT TO WHAT THEY'RE REQUESTING ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS THE EXISTING ZONING. ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THE PROPOSED ZONING. AND YOU CAN SEE THE RED IS THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL. AND ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THE LIGHT GRAY, THE 21.22 ACRES WOULD BE RESTRICTED INDUSTRIAL. AND AGAIN THEY ARE LEAVING 6.68 ACRES OF GENERAL COMMERCIAL ALONG THE HIGHWAY 72 CORRIDOR. THE SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF THE SITE HAVE A CREEK GOING THROUGH THEM AND SOME FLOODPLAIN RELATED TO THAT SO LIMITED DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. BUT THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW IS IS VACANT AND USED FOR AGRICULTURE, AND THEY PLAN ON DOING THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE FIELD TO THE NORTH, NORTH OF THE CREEK, ON THE MORE DEVELOPABLE PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY. THEY EVENTUALLY WILL TURN IN STORMWATER CALCULATIONS THAT WASN'T REQUIRED AT THIS STAGE, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST A REZONING. BUT EVENTUALLY WHEN THEY TURN IN CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS, WE WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT THE STORMWATER CALCULATIONS AND WE'LL KNOW WHETHER THEY NEED DETENTION OR NOT. BUT AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO PUSH OFF MORE WATER THAN THEY'RE CURRENTLY RELEASING RIGHT NOW, AND WE'LL REVIEW THAT DURING THE SITE PLAN STAGE. WE HAVE REVIEWED THE THE THE WATER AND SEWER IMPACTS, AND WE BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE WATER AND SEWER TO THIS PROPERTY AND AT CAPACITY AT THE PLANT TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE IMPACTS FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. BUT WE'LL KNOW MORE WHEN THEY SUBMIT DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS. SO I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT THE CARNIVAL SCHOOLS WANTS TO CONSTRUCT AT THIS LOCATION THE CARNIVAL SCHOOLS OPERATIONS CENTER, AND THEY TELL US THAT IT WILL REPLACE THE EXISTING BUS FACILITY BEHIND COLLIERVILLE ELEMENTARY OFF OF PETERSON LAKE ROAD. AND AT THIS LOCATION, THERE WOULD BE A BUS LOT, AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THAT MEANS YOU AND THE MAYOR AND BOARD WOULD SEE THIS REQUEST IN MORE DETAIL AT A FUTURE MEETING, AND THEY WOULD HAVE A MAINTENANCE AREA FOR THE BUSSES AS WELL. ALSO, ON THIS SITE THEY WOULD HAVE WAREHOUSING AND IT WOULD BE TRADITIONAL WAREHOUSING, BUT ALSO COLD STORAGE AS WELL. WITH COLLIERVILLE SCHOOLS AND ALL OF OUR SCHOOL BUILDINGS, THEY HAVE KITCHENS AND THERE'S THERE'S A LOT, A LOT OF KIDS THAT EAT AT THE SCHOOL BREAKFAST AND LUNCH AND THEY WOULD STORE IN BULK FOOD HERE AND DISTRIBUTE IT OUT TO TO THE VARIOUS SCHOOL, SCHOOL OFFICES AND BUILDINGS.

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BUT WE'LL GET MORE DETAILS ABOUT THAT LATER. ABOUT THE REZONING ITSELF. IT'S IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT REZONING THIS PROPERTY TO INDUSTRIAL IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE 2040 LAND USE PLAN. HOWEVER, THERE ARE SITUATIONS IN THIS AREA THAT THAT WARRANT LOOKING AT IT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSELY AND THAT THIS THIS AREA IS UNDERGOING A TRANSITION. THE 2040 LAND USE PLAN IS ADVISORY. IT'S NON-BINDING. SO THAT AFFORDS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE BOARD SOME FLEXIBILITY TO INTERPRET THE PLAN FOR INDUSTRIAL USES AND ZONING. WE LOOKED AT THE IN THE LAND USE PLAN. WE HAVE A PLACE TYPE CALLED THE TECHNOLOGY AND EMPLOYMENT CENTER. PLACE TYPE. BY PLACE TYPE, I MEAN IT DESCRIBES THE USES THAT WOULD BE THERE, BUT MAYBE THE THE FORM TO AND SO WE'RE WE'RE DEFINITELY IN THE GRAY AREA.

WE'RE EXPECTING TO SEE INDUSTRY AND WAREHOUSES AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. AND SO THAT THAT'S WHAT WOULD TYPICALLY BE DESIGNATED FOR INDUSTRIAL. BUT RIGHT NOW THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED FOR SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL, WHICH MEANS PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY DRIVING THERE. AND IT IS MORE FOR RETAIL. AND NOT NOT NECESSARILY NECESSARILY NOT NECESSARILY INDUSTRY. THE WAREHOUSING COMPONENT AND THE BUS COMPONENT WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED IN INDUSTRY. AND SO THAT'S WHY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS ASKED FOR THE REZONING IS BECAUSE INDUSTRIAL USES OR INDUSTRIAL ZONING IS WHERE SUCH USES WOULD GO. SO IT DOESN'T MATCH THE LAND USE PLAN. BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE WORTH NOTING. THERE'S ALREADY AN OFFICE IN TECHNOLOGY AND EMPLOYMENT CENTER THAT THAT PLACE TYPE IS ALREADY TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY. AND SO THAT THAT IS WORTH NOTING. AND THOMPSON MACHINE, THEY HAVE A LARGE INDUSTRIAL SUBDIVISION THAT THAT IS UNDER ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THIS PROPERTY. SO IT THE AREA IS, IS CHANGING ALSO ABOUT THE HIGHWAY 72 CORRIDOR. IT'S PRETTY, PRETTY ECLECTIC. THE LAND JUST TO THE SOUTH, THIS MAP THAT SHOWS HOW IT'S BEING USED. RIGHT NOW IT'S AGRICULTURE AND FARM. BUT THE 2040 PLAN WOULD ENCOURAGE INDUSTRIAL ZONING. SO I THINK YOU'LL SEE OVER TIME, INDUSTRIAL USES HAPPEN TO THE SOUTH OF THIS SUBJECT PROPERTY AND ALSO RETAIL. STAYING ALONG HIGHWAY 72. SO THAT'S ANOTHER TREND. AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE STREET AT FUN CRAFT IS AN INDUSTRIAL TYPE USE. AND SO THAT THAT IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS IS A PRETTY ECLECTIC AREA. WHEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT DIFFERENT USES AND INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY, DOES DOES OCCUR IN THIS AREA. BUT BUT WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO ZOOM IN AND ASK, ASK YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT IS MAYBE THINK ABOUT OUR TECHNOLOGY AND EMPLOYMENT CENTER AS LIKE A HUGE NODE. SO THIS THIS IS OUR EXISTING OR OUR FUTURE LAND USE PLAN AND SHOWS THE LIMITS OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND EMPLOYMENT CENTER PLACE TYPE GOES ALL THE WAY TO BYHALIA ROAD, INCLUDES COWAN ROAD, FOLLOWS ALONG THE WINCHESTER EXTENSION. GOES ALONG THIS PROPERTY ALONG HIGHWAY 72 ALL THE WAY DOWN TO TO CHENEY SO THAT THAT GRAY

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MY NAME IS NARCISSUS DODSON, 592 SUNFLOWER LANE, COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE. GOOD.

GO AHEAD MA'AM. OKAY. WELL, I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR SUBDIVISION, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF CONGESTION, AS IS IN OUR SUBDIVISION. SO WE WOULD REQUEST THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE BUS THAT TO COME IN AND OUR SUBDIVISION, BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE TIME GETTING IN AND OUT OF OUR SUBDIVISION, TRYING TO GET HOME OVER THERE ON POPLAR. WE HAVE AND IT'S REALLY CONGESTED RIGHT NOW. SO I'M AGAINST Y'ALL BRINGING THE BUS IN TO OUR SUBDIVISION. YOU DON'T MIND? THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY, MANY MCCRORY. MY. MY NAME IS MINNIE MCCRORY. I LIVE AT 507 HARRIS STREET, COLLIERVILLE, TENNESSEE. AND MY CONCERN IS THAT, FIRST OF ALL, WE HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING. THE HOMEOWNERS ON THE BACKSIDE OF US RECEIVE CARDS, OUR INFORMATION ABOUT THIS. BUT WE DIDN'T. SO WE JUST GOT TO KIND OF LIKE BY WORD OF MOUTH. BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT THE REZONING, BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVING PROBLEMS GETTING IN AND OUT OF 72 AND HARRIS, WE REALLY NEED A TRAFFIC LIGHT OR SOMETHING THERE. I SEE YOU SAID YOU HAD DONE SOMETHING ABOUT A TRAFFIC STUDY, AND IF THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED, AND ALSO THE POLLUTION THESE BUSSES WILL BRING. AND I SAID TRAFFIC YOU SAID MENTIONED ABOUT FINE CRAFT ALREADY BEING THERE. THAT PLACE IS ALMOST YOU KNOW, NOBODY KNOWS IT'S THERE UNLESS YOU JUST REALLY KNOW BECAUSE YOU DON'T SEE ANY SIGNS ANYBODY. THERE'S NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE WORKING THERE ANYMORE. SO THAT WOULDN'T BRING A LOT OF TRAFFIC. AS IF THESE BUSSES AND ALL THE OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WILL BE ADDED. AND ALSO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 2040 LAND USE PLAN, I THINK THE CITIZENS SHOULD BE MADE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON

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HOWEVER, THE ONES IN COLLIERVILLE LIVE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA CLOSEST TO THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. I'M A GRADUATE OF HS WHO IS RAISING THREE CHILDREN WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO SCHOOL BUSSES YET, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE CAN ACCESS DURING OUR MADE UP HOME SCHOOL PRE HOMESCHOOL HOURS. THAT'S NIKKI MCCRAY PARK AND COALVILLE TOWN. BEAUTIFUL COMMISSION. MY QUESTION TO THEM IS DOES THE ENTRANCE TO THE PARK HAVE FLOWERS? IF SO, WHEN DO THEY BLOOM? WHO CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE GIANT ANTHILLS AND THE CRACKS AND CREVICES OF THE WALKING TRACK? AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE'S A CREEK IN THE AREA OF THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. CAN AND WILL INFRASTRUCTURE BE PROVIDED AROUND IT AND IN RESPONSE TO THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS, WHILE TRAFFIC IS EXPECTED TO OPERATE THE SAME, THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN VEHICLE OPERATION. CAN WE GET A STATISTIC OR ANALYSIS ON CAR EMISSIONS AND AIR POLLUTION? AND WHILE WE'RE AT IT, CAN THE TOWN COMPLETE A NEW WASTEWATER AND SEWER PLANNING STUDY? THE LAST ONES WERE COMPLETED IN 2007, AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE OUR RESIDENTIAL AREA FALLS IN RELATION TO THE SOUTHEAST AND SOUTHWEST STUDY. AND LASTLY, IN RESPONSE TO THE BUILD OUT ANALYSIS, CAN A BUILD OUT ANALYSIS BE DONE TO INCLUDE THE STATE RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT I LIVE IN AND APPLY A VARYING SITE AND EFFICIENCY FACTOR AS A SPECIAL CONSIDERATION? BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THESE HOMES ARE 50 YEARS AND OR OLDER, THEY ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THE LOCAL DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICT OR NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICT, WHICH MEANS THAT RESIDENTS DO NOT BENEFIT FROM THE REGULATIONS THAT OFFER PRESERVATION PROTECTIONS. THESE ARE UNDERDEVELOPED PARCELS THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM ON SITE IMPROVEMENTS, SUCH AS, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, SEWER EASEMENTS AND STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, WHICH I BELIEVE IS NECESSITATED BY THIS PROPOSED NEW DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU, MISS WOODROW BROWN. OKAY. NO. GOOD AFTERNOON. GOOD AFTERNOON SIR. MY NAME IS WOODROW BROWN.

HOME AT 610 SUNFLOWER LANE ON THE HOME AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. I GUESS MY MAY HAVE BEEN SOME CONFUSION AND EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT WHAT REALLY WAS GOING TO BE GOING ON TONIGHT. I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE MISINTERPRETED BECAUSE THEY SAID HIGHER SCHOOL OPERATION CENTER, WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT EVEN WAS GOING THERE. THAT WAS THE FIRST PROBLEM. WAS IT WAS OPERATION CENTER. EDUCATION CENTER. WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A MAINTENANCE CENTER. SO STORAGE CENTER, A FUEL CENTER AND ALL OF THIS WAS GOING THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. SECOND THING, WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE INFORMATION WE GOT, WHERE THE ACCESS ROAD WAS GOING TO BE GOING OFF INTO IT, WAS IT GOING TO BE OFF 72 OR WAS IT GOING TO BE OFF BY HALEY ROAD? THERE AIN'T NO NO THAT BUT THE INFORMATION FROM A STANDPOINT IN THAT AREA WE AGAINST ANY MORE INDUSTRIAL ISSUES GOING IN THERE. IF THE RESIDENT AND RETAIL WE ARE WITH IT. BUT BUT AS FAR AS INDUSTRIAL. NO WE ARE AGAINST IT. AND AS FAR AS THAT THAT SUBDIVISION OVER THERE GETTING OUT AND GETTING IN,

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THANK YOU, MR. BROWN. A MOTION ON THE FLOOR COMMISSIONERS. CAN YOU PUT THE PROPOSED MOTION UP ON THE SCREEN? MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE OR RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE 2025 DASH TEN, COLLIERVILLE SCHOOL OPERATIONS CENTER, CASE NUMBER 25 2192.

WITH THE PROVIDED MOTIONS. EXCUSE ME. CONDITIONS. I HEAR A SECOND. SECOND. ONE THING COMMISSIONERS LET ME I KNOW EACH OF US WERE PROVIDED WITH THIS, BUT FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS AN EMAIL THAT WAS SENT TO PLANNING FROM MISTER RICKY WALKER AND ALSO FROM MISS JOANNE MILES OPPOSING THIS PROPOSAL. AND THAT'LL BE PART OF THE RECORD. DO I HEAR DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONERS? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. JAMIE, FOR YOU. SO IS IT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE HAS NOT BEEN A TRAFFIC STUDY CONDUCTED YET OR THERE HAS BEEN THERE HAS BEEN. THE SCHOOL SYSTEM DID PAY FOR A STUDY. OUR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEER WHO'S HERE TONIGHT REVIEWED THAT STUDY, HAS PROVIDED COMMENTS. AND SO NOW THEY'LL THEY'LL NEED TO RESPOND TO THAT STUDY. SO THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE THIS THIS CASE, IF IT IS REZONED, YOU'LL SEE AN UPDATED STUDY AND THE RESULTS OF ANY MITIGATION OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS JAMIE, DO WE KNOW THE OPERATING HOURS OF THIS FACILITY? I THINK IT'S KIND OF A GIVEN QUESTION, BUT HOW MANY FULL TIME EMPLOYEES WE'RE GOING TO HAVE? AND THEN REALLY QUICKLY, CAN YOU RECAP FOR ME WHAT EXACTLY IS ALLOWED IN SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL AGAIN? SURE. AS FAR AS THE THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION, I MIGHT DEFER TO THE APPLICANT ON THAT. LET LET THEM ANSWER THEIR OPERATIONS.

THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. SO THERE MAY BE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT ANSWERS TO BASED ON ON THE USES. BUT SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL WITH THE 2040 LAND USE PLAN AND I APPRECIATE THE SPEAKERS FEEDBACK ON USING USING JARGON. SO IT'S OUR LONG RANGE PLAN. IT'S OUR VISION OF WHAT WE WANT TO SEE IN THE AREA. SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL JUST TRANSLATES INTO RETAIL TYPE USES. SO THAT'S OFFICES, RESTAURANTS, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES COULD BE DRY CLEANERS AND LAUNDROMATS. THINGS LIKE THAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN A SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL, THINGS THAT ARE OPEN ON THE WEEKEND. YES. SO AN EXAMPLE OF AN AREA THAT SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL IS LIKE WHERE ACADEMY SPORTS IS OR TARGET, KROGER AND POPLAR, THAT'S A SUBURBAN COMMERCIAL AREA. SO THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF USES THAT WE THOUGHT MIGHT HAPPEN HERE. BUT IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN DESIGNATED THAT FOR A REALLY LONG TIME. AND RETAIL HAS BEEN VERY SLOW TO COME TO HIGHWAY 72. WE'VE SEEN OTHER TYPE OF USES WE'VE SEEN LIKE AUTO REPAIR. INDUSTRY. WE'VE

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I'M GOING TO PULL UP THAT REGIONAL MAP. I'M GOING TO TRY TO HIGHLIGHT RIGHT HERE. SO THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS GENERAL AREA, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. I'M GOING TO PUT A STAR THERE. SO THE HARRIS STREET, THE THE WEST WEST STREET AREA. AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT ACCESSING HIGHWAY 72, HARRIS STREET AND TRAFFIC CONCERNS THERE. OKAY. THANK YOU.

THANKS. I WAS JUST WONDERING IF WE COULD HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. I WAS GETTING READY TO ASK BECAUSE I THOUGHT JASON WAS GOING TO TALK, BUT THEN HE SAID I WAS WAITING MY TURN. I DIDN'T WANT TO CUT OFF. OKAY, WELL, THEN SOMEBODY BEAT ME. I SHOULD HAVE DRUG YOU UP HERE.

GRACE AND VAUGHN, 1115 HOLLY PARK CIRCLE WITH TOWNSHIP DEVELOPMENT. HOW THIS CAME ABOUT WAS THE SCHOOLS CAME TO US. AND INITIALLY THIS WAS BACK WHEN GARY LILLY WAS SUPERINTENDENT. STILL, IT'S BEEN A WHILE. WE INITIALLY WERE LOOKING FOR WAREHOUSE SPACE FOR THE COLD STORAGE. IT'LL SAVE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT A LOT OF MONEY. IF WE CAN BUY IN BULK AND BE ABLE TO STORE FROZEN ITEMS, AND THEN THAT KIND OF DEVELOPED INTO THOMAS REALIZED HOW SPREAD OUT THEIR OPERATIONS TEAM IS. HE'S OVER AT CARNIVAL WEST RIGHT NOW. YES. AND THEY'VE GOT FOLKS AT THE NEW HIGH SCHOOL. AND SO IT KIND OF TURNED INTO LET'S CONSOLIDATE ALL OF THESE USES ONTO ONE PIECE IN A CENTRAL AREA FOR THE SCHOOLS. I HAVE. JAMIE, CAN YOU GO TO THE. MAP THAT SHOWS OUR EXISTING SCHOOL LOCATIONS? ALL RIGHT. HERE WE GO. ALL THE RED DOTS OR RED STARS ARE EXISTING SCHOOLS. THE YELLOW SQUARE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

AND THEN THE BLUE STAR IS ROUGHLY AN AREA WHERE CARVEL SCHOOLS. IF THERE WERE TO BUILD ANOTHER SCHOOL, IT WOULD BE IN THAT AREA. SO AS YOU CAN SEE BASED ON THAT MAP, IT'S A PRETTY CENTRAL LOCATION. THE BEST THING ABOUT THIS FOR US IS WITH THE WITH THE BUSSES BEING POTENTIALLY MOVED HERE IS GETTING THEM OUT ONTO HIGHWAY 72 AND GETTING THEM OUT. RIGHT NOW THEY ARE LOCATED OVER BEHIND CARDWELL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND THEY ARE EITHER COMING OUT ON BURROWS OR PETERSON LAKE. BOTH TWO LANE RESIDENTIAL ROADS WITH KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL. AND IF YOU'VE BEEN ON PEARSON LAKE DURING THE MORNING OR AFTERNOON, YOU'VE SEEN THAT THE WAY THAT WORKS. BUT AS TO YOUR QUESTION, MR. GIVEN. AND I'LL DEFER TO THOMAS, YOU CAN'T FORESEE ANY REASON WHY THIS WOULD BE OPEN ON THE WEEKEND OR OPERATING ON THE WEEKEND. NO, SIR. JUST UNDER EMERGENCIES WHERE MAINTENANCE HAD TO RESPOND. AND IT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, I TRY TO ANSWER SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAD ABOUT OPERATIONS. AGAIN, MY NAME IS THOMAS DOHERTY. I'M CHIEF OF OPERATIONS FOR THE SCHOOLS. OUR BUS LOT TYPICALLY OPERATES AROUND 6 A.M. TO ABOUT 5:30 P.M. BUSSES, YOU KNOW, GET THERE EARLY TO BEGIN RUNNING THEIR ROUTES FOR THE FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL AND THEN AND THEN WORK THROUGH THEIR ROUTES AND THEN ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS DISMISS IT FOR. SO NORMALLY ALL BUSSES ARE BACK AT THE SHOP AROUND 5 P.M. AND THEN THEY WRAP UP AND GO HOME IN THE EXTREME COLD. WE DO HAVE TO COME IN A LITTLE EARLIER, SOMETIMES TO COLD START BUSSES, SO THAT COULD BE 530, EVEN 5:00 DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, HOW EARLY WE NEED TO GET IN THERE TO TO GET BUSSES RUNNING TO BE SURE WE CAN SERVE THE KIDS. CURRENTLY WE RUN ABOUT 65 BUSSES OUT OF OUR BUS LOT, SO THAT'S ABOUT 65 BUS DRIVERS, A HANDFUL OF ROUTERS THAT THAT OPERATE OUT OF THAT FACILITY BEHIND CARVELL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. IN ADDITION TO SOME MECHANICS, OUR OPERATIONS DEPARTMENT, OUR OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE AND TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENTS ALL OPERATE OUT OF WEST CARVER MIDDLE SCHOOL. WE HAVE ABOUT 18 EMPLOYEES OVER THERE. WE'RE GROWING AND ALSO WEST IS CONTINUES TO GROW. SO WE'RE KIND OF OUTGROWING OUR SPACE

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WE RUN A THREE TIER SYSTEM, MEANING WE RUN THE HIGH SCHOOL ROUTE, THEN WE RUN THE MIDDLE SCHOOL ROUTE AND THEN THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO IN THE MORNING THEY THEY GET BACK TO THE BUS LOT ABOUT 930, AND THEN THEY START RUNNING. THERE'S A BREAK IN BETWEEN AND THEN THEY START RUNNING THE HIGH SCHOOL ROUTE AGAIN. ABOUT 2:00 THEY LEAVE TO HEAD TO THE HIGH SCHOOL. THAT'S ALSO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF OUR EXISTING LOT. WE DON'T HAVE A REALLY A DESIGNATED BREAK AREA OR ANYWHERE FOR THOSE EMPLOYEES TO, TO TO BREAK IN BETWEEN THAT, IN BETWEEN THAT, IN BETWEEN THOSE SHIFTS. AND SINCE MANY OF THEM DON'T LIVE IN COLLIERVILLE, THEY, THEY COMMUTE FROM, FROM OTHER AREAS. IT'S DIFFICULT TO TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO LEAVE AT 930, GO HOME AND THEN COME BACK, TURN AROUND AND COME BACK AT 130 OR 1:00 IN ORDER TO START THEIR AFTERNOON ROUTE. SO WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ROOM TO TO MAKE A BREAK AREA OF SORTS SO THAT THEY CAN EAT LUNCH AND RELAX FOR A FEW HOURS UNTIL THEY START THAT AFTERNOON SHIFT. WE THINK THAT WOULD GO A LONG WAY TO HELP US ATTRACT AND RETAIN EMPLOYEES. YEAH, BUT MY POINT WAS THAT THE TRAFFIC ISN'T GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT FACILITY REPEATEDLY ALL DAY LONG. IT'S THEY HAVE AN EXIT RETURN. THAT'S CORRECT. YES, SIR. THEY'RE GOING TO HEAD OUT ABOUT 6:00, START RUNNING THEIR MORNING ROUTE, COME BACK ABOUT 930, HEAD OUT AGAIN ABOUT 2:00. COME BACK ABOUT 5:00. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OTHER QUESTIONS. JAMIE, CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT'S IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY WITH US? WHAT DID THE TRAFFIC STUDY SHOW? SURE. AND I MAY NEED TO DEFER TO NITA, OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER. SHE'S NOT HERE. SHE'S HERE, SHE'S HERE. I'M GONNA GO BACK TO THE LAYOUT.

IT IS. THEY ARE PLANNING TO USE THE TWO MEDIUM BREAKS. THEY WILL HAVE A LOT OF BUSSES LEAVING ALL AT ONE TIME IN THE MORNING AND COMING IN AT THE END OF THE DAY. AND THAT SHOWS YOU ABOUT HOW MUCH I KNOW ABOUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY. I KNOW, SO BECAUSE IT'S HIGHWAY, WE HAD TO SEND IT. SO ABOUT HOW MANY BUSSES ARE YOU RUNNING? 65, 65 BUSSES. WE HAD TO SEND IT OUT TO T-DOT FOR THEIR APPROVAL. AND SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT T-DOT WANTED TO SEE WAS ON OUR SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY OR ON THE RIGHT. THE MEDIAN TO THE NORTHEAST OF THAT.

THEY WANT TO SEE A CURB CUT THERE FOR QUEUING FOR THE LEFT HAND TURN. IT'S ALL THINGS THAT WE AGREE WITH THAT WOULD HELP IT RUN AND FUNCTION BETTER. BUT AS FAR AS OUR TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS WENT, IT DIDN'T MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT SIGNALIZATION. NO TRAFFIC SIGNAL. FURTHER QUESTIONS IS THERE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL PLANNED? NO SIR. I DIDN'T SEE THAT.

COMMISSIONER STAMPS. YEAH. COULD YOU GO A LITTLE BIT? HOW THE LAYOUT OF HOW IT AFFECTS THE NEIGHBORS AROUND, LIKE WITH REGARDS TO HOW Y'ALL ADDRESS THE BUFFER BUFFERING OF THE OF THE. YEAH. I CAN SPEAK TO THE PLAN TO OVERALL WITH THE BUSSES. WE UNDERSTOOD THAT THAT WOULD BE BEST TO SCREEN FROM RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. SO THE REASON THAT THE WAREHOUSE AND OFFICE ARE WHERE IT'S AT IS TO TRY AND PUSH OUR BUS LOT AS FAR AWAY, DOWN TO THE SOUTH AS WE CAN, AND THEN WE HAVE TO STAY OFF THE NON CONTRALATERAL, WHICH IT DOESN'T SHOW UP VERY WELL HERE, BUT IT IS JUST NORTH OF THE GREEN BELT LINE, THE PROPOSED GREEN BELT AND SOUTH OF THAT DETENTION. AND SO. ALONG WITH USING THE WAREHOUSE TO TRY AND SHIELD THE RESIDENTS FROM THE BUS LOT, WE HAVE A WE ARE PLANNING TO LEAVE A 100 FOOT BUFFER OF THE TREES BETWEEN NIKKI MCCRAY PARK AND OUR PROPERTY WILL STAY 100, AT LEAST 100FT OFF OF THAT

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SO SO T-DOT IS GOING TO REQUIRE A LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE SITE. THAT'S THAT'S THE CURB CUT THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S LONG ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE BUSSES WITHIN THAT CURB CUT. WE WILL WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO NOT SPILL OUT ONTO 72. OKAY.

THE QUESTIONS I HAVE ONE MORE. I'M JUST CURIOUS. YOU KIND OF TOUCHED ON IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT WAS THERE ANY THOUGHT ABOUT A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT HARRIS STREET AND 72 I HAD JUST MADE? I MEAN, WE WILL LOOK AT WARRANTS. IN ORDER TO INSTALL A TRAFFIC SIGNAL, YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS IN TERMS OF VOLUME AND CRASH DATA. I WILL LOOK AT IT AGAIN TO SEE IF WE MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THE TRAFFIC STUDY DIDN'T. THEY ANALYZED THAT INTERSECTION, BUT THEY DID NOT LOOK AT IT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE MUCH. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A LOT MORE DATA TO LOOK AT THAT KIND OF INFORMATION. SO I JUST NEED TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT IT AGAIN. AND HOW WOULD THE THE NEW LIGHT AT SYCAMORE IMPACT THIS. SO THE SYCAMORE LIGHT IT DOESN'T REALLY IMPACT THIS IN ANY WAY. I DON'T SEE A BUFFER FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LEFT. IF THE LIGHT'S CHANGED, IT COULD. BUT FOR THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE TWO CLOSELY SPACED INTERSECTIONS TO GET TO GET THAT CRITICAL GAP TO MAKE THAT LEFT TURN. AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH MY CONCERN WITH THIS. OKAY. OTHER QUESTIONS COMMISSIONERS. CHAIRMAN, I DO HAVE ONE MORE, BUT THIS IS FOR THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY WHILE WE'RE ON TRAFFIC. SORRY, I DON'T MEAN ARE YOU GOING ON TRAFFIC? NO. GO AHEAD. OKAY. WHILE WE'RE ON TRAFFIC, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT A RETAIL CENTER HERE WOULD CREATE MORE TRAFFIC THAN WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING. YEAH, GRAYSON,

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AND IN THIS LETTER IT JUST STATES SOMETHING ABOUT HAZARDOUS MATERIAL. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE HAZARDOUS MATERIAL STORED ON THE PREMISES, ARE THERE? NO, SIR. FUEL I MEAN THERE WILL BE ABOVE GROUND TANKS FOR FUEL FOR PETROLEUM PRODUCTS. BESIDES THAT. NO, SIR.

WE DON'T KNOW. THESE ARE ALL ABOVE GROUND. ALL ABOVE GROUND? YES, SIR. THE CURRENT CURRENT WALL, SIR. DOUBLE WALL, I ASSUME. YES, SIR. AND CONTAINMENT? YEAH. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION FOR JAMIE TO ON. JUST SO JUST TO MAKE CLEAR, I WANT THAT WE ARE WE ARE VOTING TODAY ON THE REZONING AND THEN OR THE FOR THE BUS FACILITY FOR THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO COME THAT WILL COME TO US IN ANOTHER MEETING WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. YOU'LL SEE MORE INFORMATION AT THAT TIME. COMMISSIONERS, DO I HEAR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HAVE A MOTION MADE AND SECONDED ON THE FLOOR, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. FLETCHER. YES. GIVEN. YES.

DUBOSE. YES. STAMPS. YES. GREEN. YES. GODDARD. YES. SLED. YES. ROZANSKI. COTTON. YES. ALL.

[8.c Case #252169]

STAFF LATER MET WITH THE APPLICANTS TO REVIEW COMMENTS RELATED TO MAXIMUM PARKING AND SITE DESIGN. AFTER THE MEETING, THE APPLICANT APPLIED FOR A VARIANCE RELATED TO EXCEEDING THE MAXIMUM PARKING ALLOWED. HOWEVER, ON APRIL 15TH OF THIS YEAR, THE BZA DID DENY THAT REQUEST BASED ON THE LACK OF A PHYSICAL HARDSHIP, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO OTHER BZA VARIANCES RELATED TO PARKING THAT WERE DENIED IN THE PAST. APPLICANTS RECENTLY SUBMITTED NEW RENDERINGS OR NEW REVISIONS TO THE SITE PLAN ON SEPTEMBER 29TH, AND THESE ARE NEWER REVISIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED AFTER THE STAFF REPORT WAS PUBLISHED. BECAUSE THERE'S AN UPDATED PLAN NOW. AND IN THAT THAT NEW REVISION, THE PARKING ACTUALLY DOES MEET THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED WITH 38 SPACES. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT IN RECENT YEARS, OTHER RESTAURANTS AND MULTI-TENANT BUILDINGS HAVE PURSUED MORE PARKING THAN ALLOWED TO ADDRESS PARKING DEMAND DURING PEAK TIMES, WHICH I WILL TOUCH ON THAT LATER. THE TOWN'S PARKING ORDINANCE STATES THAT THE MINIMUM PARKING FOR A RESTAURANT IS ONE SPACE FOR EVERY 200FT■S OF BUILDING AREA.

THIS REQUIREMENT IS INTENDED TO ENSURE COMMERCIAL SITES HAVE ENOUGH PARKING, AND IT PREVENTS OFFSITE PARKING. THE ORDINANCE ALSO STATES THAT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FOR RESTAURANTS SHALL NOT EXCEED ONE SPACE FOR EVERY TWO SEATS, THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED FOR A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING IS ALSO ONE SPACE FOR EVERY 200FT■!S OF BUILDING AREA. SUCH BUILDINGS OFTEN CONTAIN ONE OR MORE RESTAURANTS. THE PURPOSE OF THE MAXIMUM LIMITATION IS TO

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THESE IMPACTS CAN INCLUDE STORMWATER, STORMWATER RUNOFF, THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT, AND LIGHT TRESPASS FROM LARGE PARKING LOT LIGHTS. CARGILL USES BOTH MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM PARKING LIMITS TO ENSURE THAT COMMERCIAL SITES ARE DESIGNED TO MINIMIZE ANY NEGATIVE OFFSITE IMPACTS. AND AGAIN, THAT COULD BE THOSE IMPACTS COULD BE OFFSITE PARKING OR STORMWATER RUNOFF ISSUES. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THE MAXIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR RESTAURANTS BE CHANGED FROM ONE SPACE FOR EVERY TWO SEATS TO ONE SPACE FOR EVERY 100FT■!S OF BUILDING AREA. THE APPLICANT PROVIDED A PARKING STUDY WITH THEIR INITIAL BZA REQUEST IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR. THEY USED THIS AS JUSTIFICATION FOR THEIR VARIANCE. THEY ASSESSED THE PARKING SPACES FOR BURGER KING, CHIPOTLE AND JERSEY MIKE'S, CHICK FIL A, TACO BELL, AND MCDONALD'S AND THESE ARE ALL ON POPLAR AVENUE. THERE IS MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT IN YOUR PACKET THAT'S IN EXHIBIT THREE, AND THAT INCLUDES ADDITIONAL THINGS LIKE THE SEATING, THE PARKING REQUIREMENT AT THE TIME, IF IT WAS KNOWN. THE REQUEST WOULD COMPLETELY ELIMINATE SEATING AS A WAY TO CALCULATE THE MAXIMUM ALLOWED PARKING FOR RESTAURANTS, ALONG WITH AMENDING THE REQUIREMENTS FOR RESTAURANT, STAFF HAS FOUND IT NECESSARY TO SIMPLIFY THE PARKING LIMITS BY USING A TIERED APPROACH, WHICH IS THE NEW TABLE THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR SCREENS. FOR RESTAURANTS AND MULTI-TENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS UP TO 50,000FT■S, THE MINIMUM PARKING RATIO WOULD CONTINUE TO BE ONE SPACE FOR EVERY 200FT■!S OF BUILDING AREA FOR RESTAURANTS AND MULTI-TENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS UP TO 50,000FT■S. THE MAXIMUM PARKING LIMIT WOULD BE ONE SPACE FOR EVERY 100FT■!S. AD SO TO SIMPLIFY THIS, A 3000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE A MINIMUM OF 15 PARKING SPACES AND BUT IT CANNOT EXCEED MORE THAN 30 PARKING SPACES. AND AGAIN FOR 4000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

THEIR MINIMUM THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE WOULD BE 20, BUT THEY CANNOT EXCEED 40. AND SO THAT'S A SIMPLIFIED APPROACH. YOU HAVE A MAXIMUM AND A MINIMUM BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. RECENTLY THERE HAVE BEEN VARIANCE REQUESTS ALLOWED FOR MORE VARIANCE REQUESTS TO ALLOW FOR MORE PARKING FOR NONRESIDENTIAL SITES WITHIN THE TOWN. IN 2009, THE BMA APPROVED AN AMENDMENT TO THE SCHILLING FARMS PLAN. DEVELOPMENT. THIS WAS TO ALLOW FOR THEM TO USE THE URBAN LAND INSTITUTE SHARED PARKING STANDARD, RATHER THAN THE TOWN'S PARKING STANDARDS. LA FITNESS, WHICH IS AT 1088 WEST POPLAR AVENUE, APPLIED TO CHANGE THE TOWN'S MAXIMUM PARKING LIMIT FOR HEALTH SPA. THE BMA APPROVED THEIR REQUEST REQUESTED FORMULA, WHICH WAS ONE FOR EVERY 120FT■!S OF BUILDG AREA. AFTER A BZA VARIANCE WAS DENIED FOR THEM, AND IN 2023, THE BZA DID NOT GRANT A VARIANCE TO A CHICK FIL A THAT WAS CITED FOR ARMADALE FARMS, WHICH WAS ON THE CORNER OF HOUSTON LEVEE AND WOLF RIVER. THEY WERE NOT ALLOWED TO EXCEED THEIR THEIR MAXIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENT DUE TO THE LACK OF A PHYSICAL HARDSHIP. THEY WERE REQUESTING 81 SEATS AND THEY WERE ONLY ALLOWED 52, WHICH IS 29 MORE, AND THAT THEY ALSO SUBMITTED A VARIANCE FOR ANOTHER SITE ON RACE STATION OR CARTWRIGHT FARM LANE AND POPLAR AVENUE, BUT THAT WAS LATER WITHDRAWN. AND INITIALLY THAT THAT THAT SITE WAS NOT APPROVED BY THE BMA. PLANNING STAFF CONDUCTED A COMPARISON OF SOME OF THE PARKING LOTS WITHIN THE TOWN. WE LOOK AT THE PARKING FOR FIVE MULTI-TENANT COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT HAD RESTAURANTS, AND WE LOOKED AT FIVE STANDALONE RESTAURANTS, AND TWO OF THESE RESTAURANTS DO NOT EXIST. FOR EXAMPLE, THE CHICK FIL A WAS NOT APPROVED ON WITHIN THE CARTWRIGHT PLACE BUSINESS CENTER AND WHATABURGER, WHICH WAS GOING NEXT TO CHICK FIL A THAT WAS NOT APPROVED AS WELL. SO WE COLLECTED INFO SUCH AS THE SEATS, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE PROVIDED PARKING, THE MINIMUM PARKING, THE MAX THAT WAS ALLOWED, THE PERCENTAGE OF GREEN SPACE OR IMPERVIOUS AREA, AND IF IT HAD OUTDOOR SEATING OR NOT. AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS AFTER

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RIGHT? YES. YES, SIR. SO WE'RE REALLY MORE AND PLANT MORE PLANTS. PLANT MORE PLANTS. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE HURTING ANYTHING. HERE IS WHAT I'M GETTING AT. AND YOU SAID A LOT AND THAT'S WHY I CAME TO. OKAY. I DID SAY A LOT. YOU WERE VERY THOROUGH. YEAH. YOU ARE. YOU DID A GREAT JOB. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. DON, LET'S HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'M ALAN PUCKETT WITH JIM WILSON AND ASSOCIATES. I LIVE AT 711 HARCOURT LANE IN HOOVER, ALABAMA. GOOD TIMING FOR ME TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION THAT THE SCHOOL WAS ASKING FOR LAND. I AM PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION, HOOVER CITY SCHOOLS, AND WE JUST DID THE EXACT SAME THING. AND IT PASSED, BY THE WAY, JUST FOR THE RECORD. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME TONIGHT. I JUST WANT TO PROBABLY RE-EMPHASIZE SOMETHING MISS SINGLETON SAID IS THAT THE TRENDS HAVE CHANGED IN THE DIGITAL WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN NOW, HAS EVEN AFFECTED FAST FOOD. I HAVE TWO TEENAGERS AND 18 YEAR OLD AND A 17 YEAR OLD. THEY DON'T CARE AS MUCH FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH WINDOW AS THEY DO TO USE THE MOBILE APP AND PULL UP AND WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO BRING IT OUT, VERSUS GETTING IN THAT THAT LINE. SO THE FAST FOOD INDUSTRY HAS RECOGNIZED THAT THEY'RE INCREASING SPACES FOR MOBILE APPS FOR THE DOORDASH, UBER EATS OF THE WORLD, AS WELL AS THEIR INCREASED STAFFING. AND THAT WE'RE SEEING THAT NOT JUST HERE WITH THIS REQUEST, BUT AS WE DEVELOP ALL AROUND THE SOUTHEAST, WE'RE SEEING THE SAME TREND WITH THE REQUEST FROM THE FAST FOOD INDUSTRY FOR MORE PARKING QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU SIR. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A CARD FROM MISS SUSIE SCOTT. WELL, I PREPARED THIS BEFORE ALL THAT. SO ANYWAY, MY NAME IS SUSIE SCOTT. I LIVE AT 660 BRAY STATION ROAD AND I'M NOT IN THE FAST FOOD BUSINESS. I'M NOT IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS, AND I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMERCIAL MULTI-TENANT REAL ESTATE, BUT I'M A PATRON OF ALL THREE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT STUCK OUT TO ME WHEN I READ THE. WHAT WAS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA ONLINE WAS THAT FAST FOOD OR IT'S CALLED TONIGHT STANDALONE RESTAURANT OR DRIVE? EXCUSE ME? DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME ANIMAL AS A SIT DOWN RESTAURANT. YOU DRIVE UP, YOU PICK UP, YOU PLACE AN ORDER, OR YOU PICK UP FOOD THROUGH AN APP. IT'S NOT THE SAME AS GOING IN, SITTING DOWN, BEING SERVED, HAVING MAYBE A BEER OR WHATEVER.

THOSE CARS ARE NOT TURNING OVER LIKE IN THE FAST FOOD. SO IF WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THE PARKING VARIANCES OR AMENDMENTS IN, I THINK JAMIE SAID 20 YEARS WHEN ONE OF THE QUESTIONS ONE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BCA ASKED THAT QUESTION, I DON'T SEE WHY WE'RE RUSHING TO LUMP IN COMMERCIAL FAST FOOD AND REGULAR SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS IN ONE CATEGORY BECAUSE THEY USE CARS AND THEY USE PARKING SPACES DIFFERENTLY. I NOTICED ON ONE OF THE EXAMPLES TONIGHT THAT NONE OF THOSE STANDALONE RESTAURANTS THAT WERE IN THAT THAT OVERHEAD THAT YOU SHOWED WERE WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A FINE DINING. THEY NONE OF THEM. THEY WERE SLIM CHICKENS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. IT WASN'T SOMEPLACE WHERE YOU WOULD GO IN, HAVE MAYBE MULTI-COURSE MEALS. AND SO I JUST THINK THAT IF WE'RE APPROACHING THIS AND WE ARE SAYING, OKAY, LET'S MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE THE PARKING VARIANCES, LET'S NOT MAKE THE EASIEST CHOICE. NOT LET'S NOT LUMP IN DISSIMILAR BUSINESSES, BUT LOOK AT MAYBE FAST FOOD OR IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS SHOULD BE A COMPLETELY SEPARATE CATEGORY AND SHOULDN'T BE CALCULATED THE SAME WAY AS A GRISANTI OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND IF YOU'RE GOING INTO A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, THE MULTI-TENANT, THAT'S YOU'RE ALSO THAT'S MORE SIMILAR TO OR I DON'T KNOW IF

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PLEASE CALL THE ROLL GIVEN. THANK YOU. YOU SAY GIVEN I DID. YES. DEVOS. YES. STAMPS.

CHAIRMAN. I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SEE THIS ONE AGAIN. WE'LL PROBABLY TALK ABOUT IT ON THE BOARD. SO I'M GOING TO RECUSE MYSELF. GREEN. YES. GODDARD. YES. SLED.

YES. ROZANSKI. YES. FLETCHER. COTTON. YES. ALL RIGHT. THAT CONCLUDES OUR FORMAL AGENDA.

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AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO MICRO ENGAGEMENTS. WE'LL ACTUALLY BE AT THE CARNIVAL HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAME TOMORROW NIGHT, CONTINUING TALKING ABOUT I THINK TOMORROW IS HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND DESIGN OF THE COMMUNITY. SO ANXIOUS TO HEAR PUBLIC FEEDBACK ABOUT THAT, ABOUT YOUR NEXT MEETING. WE DO HAVE A LARGE MEETING AND IT MIGHT GO LONG, LIKE LIKE LIKE THIS ONE. THERE'S SEVERAL ITEMS. THE CARNIVAL HIGH SCHOOL HAS A CELL TOWER. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS ONE BEFORE, BUT SOME OF THAT, WE DIDN'T HAVE QUITE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO COME TO YOU FOR A VOTE. BUT NOW WE HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION WHERE WE SHOULD BE

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AND SO WE'LL WE'LL UNPACK THAT MORE AT YOUR NEXT MEETING. BUT IT IS RELATED TO THOMPSON AND TRYING TO REALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SOME SYNERGY THERE WITH WITH THAT PROJECT. AND WE THINK IT'S THERE'S SOME ADVANTAGES TO MOVING IT SOUTHWARD. PANTHER, WHICH YOU SAW THAT MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO ON MOOR LANE IN OUR INDUSTRIAL PARK THERE AN ONLINE RARE PHARMACY. AND THEY THEY'RE THEY HAVE A VERY LARGE EXPANSION THAT THEY PLAN TO DO IN EMPLOYMENT. AND THEY'LL HAVE A THEY NEED TO AMEND THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT RELATED TO THAT, AND ALSO AN EXTENSION OF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE KOREAN CATHOLIC CHURCH.

THEY'VE BEEN SLOWLY FINISHING THEIR WORK ON COLLIERVILLE ROAD, BUT THEY NEED AN EXTENSION BEFORE THEIR PERMIT EXPIRES. THAT'S ALL WE HAD TO SHARE TODAY. I SEE THAT FORMER COMMISSIONER JORDAN JUST CAN'T STAY AWAY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.